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If NOTW was ordering people to break in to buildings, then maybe we can for once justify appending the suffix -gate to this particular scandal!
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2012 10:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 00:44 |
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Brown Moses posted:The question you should all be asking is who was actually doing the burglaries?
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2012 11:08 |
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I would bet heavily on an unconsciously self-serving assumption that people are bored of the whole thing and it's not a story.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2012 12:44 |
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Brown Moses posted:No, but he's not leaving because of the frontbench.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2012 12:21 |
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Brown Moses posted:Not yet, I've been told nothing apart from the Guardian article being wrong about the frontbench thing. I can't believe he would have been booted off, but maybe I'm missing smoething.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2012 12:44 |
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I can't see how it could work otherwise. It'd be hard to go around retroactively deleting posts and pulping newspapers because someone had been arrested.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 14:30 |
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Richard Littlejohn is a paedophile. I don't have proof positive, but I'm going to put it on the front page of my newspaper anyway. If you guys could spread this round the Internet, that'd be really helpful!
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2012 12:00 |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/neil-wallis/jimmy-savile-other-unpubl_b_1942668.htmlquote:Imagine if The Sun had printed an expose "Jimmy Savile is a Paedophile". Hai guys, literally your only two choices are having journalists burgling the offices of Cabinet ministers and hacking dead childrens' mobiles, or total censorship that will let THE PAEDOS take over Are Country edit: for context, the author is a one-time tabloid editor who's been arrested under one or other of the phone-hacking inquiries, heh. Zephro fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 5, 2012 |
# ¿ Oct 5, 2012 17:33 |
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kingturnip posted:So, Brooks' compensation for being sacked includes clawback clauses. Who wants to bet that she'll lose a bunch of that money if she mentions anything suggesting Roopy or James knew about the phone hacking? Zephro fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Oct 19, 2012 |
# ¿ Oct 19, 2012 14:00 |
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Hong XiuQuan posted:No, but if you do say anything about something that's not illegal you may have breached a contract and depending on thwarted nature of the breach and the type of lossh you could face significant problems. It's also often much easier to prove a contract breach than, say, a tortious breach of duty. Recompense and liability are often defined.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2012 08:00 |
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Temascos posted:Yeah, I wasn't exactly the "interested in news" guy at the time, student apathy was my way, guilty as charged there. quote:The ideas contained in the email include spreading several false rumours: that David Cameron had an embarrassing medical condition; that George Osborne took drugs with a prostitute – an old allegation in the public domain which Osborne has flatly denied; allegations of a sexual nature about the Tory backbencher Nadine Dorries, which she vehemently denies and has consulted her lawyers about; and about a Tory MP allegedly getting publicity for a firm run by his partner. There is no evidence that any of the claims are true. From the "make poo poo up" school of political blogging.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2012 11:28 |
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marktheando posted:The George Osborne thing is based on this photo right?
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2012 17:19 |
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What, even for things like Cameron's 'embarrassing medical issue'? Wasn't that an accusation that he had some chronic STD or other sexual issue?
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2012 18:04 |
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FightingMongoose posted:What's the significance of this speech on Osbourne's in December? This whole "oh no, not statutory regulation" approach that so much of the press is adopting boggles the mind. If they'd found estate agents routinely breaking the law you can bet the response wouldn't be "welp, better let them self-regulate". The naked, unclothed self-interest is breathtaking.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2012 14:21 |
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Are these actually salacious, or just somewhat embarrassing?
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2012 00:14 |
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I mean basically, from "salacious", I would assume they were having an affair. I don't get that vibe from what's been quoted so far.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2012 00:19 |
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Oh OK, I'm getting confused.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2012 00:22 |
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The X-man cometh posted:With all of this poo poo coming in about the Cameron and the Tories, why haven't the Lib Dems broken the coalition with them? It can't be good for their image, and they already got their referendum.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2012 20:33 |
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zeroprime posted:So have some of these people started giving evidence against each other/other papers/people outside the immediate scope of the investigation in hopes of a plea bargain? I'd love to see the snakes turning on each other.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2012 12:10 |
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SedanChair posted:How is that Mail headline not libel? It's one of the very few good things the Mail has done.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2012 15:07 |
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Sex Vicar posted:That's not going to be fun reading for a lot of people this morning. What's really not going to be fun is the liklihood that Cameron is going to bottle the whole thing.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2012 12:09 |
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If it's not backed by force of law it will be useless, because the papers can just refuse to sign up to it like Richard Desmond.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2012 18:41 |
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Plavski posted:What'd Clegg say? quote:blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah newspapers blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Leveson blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah statutory blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Liberal Democrats blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2012 21:01 |
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notaspy posted:If every paper was like The Eye I would oppose this law, but they are not. The Eye wins it's cases because they do proper journalism, backed by sources; so the plaintiff doesn't have a leg to stand on and usually takes The Eye to court either out of vanity or an attempt to bully them.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2013 15:25 |
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I hope the press start doorstepping RB and AC, whoever they are! After all a free and unfettered press is a valiant bulwark against tyranny blah blah blah
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 12:53 |
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This seems relevant? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...me-8673726.html quote:
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 16:49 |
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Stottie Kyek posted:It's hilariously badly written and the main character really hates women for some reason. He talks about his contempt for rich, successful women
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2013 13:59 |
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willie_dee posted:That is the error message I get when I try and access it and I'm not technical enough to know how to use a proxy to pretend I'm not in the UK, which is what as I understand it, a Proxy does. http://www.mars99.com/ Is one I just grabbed off Google. standard disclaimer: Don't assume the people who run proxy servers aren't logging your IP and what you look at, or that they'll resist court orders to hand that information over (http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/58688-hidemyass-says-it-doesnt-hide-your-rear end) if you're doing something Properly Illegal™ that's likely to get you noticed.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2013 12:19 |
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Munin posted:Yeah, it's standard journalistic practice to allow the person the article is about to respond. That's why most articles alleging a company or individual did something more or less always have a "X was asked to comment but did not provide a response at the time of going to print." or "X refused to comment on the matter.".
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2013 08:32 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The situation with email is even worse - almost all email providers use the email address as a login and have trivial password-recovery techniques, and permit diversion of a copy of all email sent to a mailbox with no further notification required (Hotmail still permit it 8 years after they were heavily criticised for it by the trial judge in R. v Stanford) and once you have access to someone's email account these days it's pretty much all over. Google at least permit 2FA but hide it well away.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2013 11:15 |
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Zombywuf posted:Really your only choice for even a modicum of privacy is to not use webmail and to learn to use encryption, i.e. GPG. You still wont be safe if they decide to target you because they'll compromise your machine and install a keylogger or just prosecute you under the RIP act. You will also have to convince your interlocutors to use it which is the hard bit. quote:almost all email providers use the email address as a login and have trivial password-recovery techniques, and permit diversion of a copy of all email sent to a mailbox with no further notification required (Hotmail still permit it 8 years after they were heavily criticised for it by the trial judge in R. v Stanford)
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2013 13:21 |
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On the other hand, given the terrible money that web advertising pays, it wouldn't surprise me if they were making more money despite the drop in readers.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2013 12:58 |
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Orange Devil posted:I have a cultural inquiry. What is it with you Brits and having tits in your news (or "news")? No other country I know of has as much tits plastered all over such a socially acceptable and wide spread medium as a daily 'paper'. What's going on here, or am I just horribly sheltered about other countries' papers?
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2013 20:46 |
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ReV VAdAUL posted:What does it mean to be 'banged out'?
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2014 17:15 |
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HortonNash posted:Haha, homeopathic medicine..he has lovely taste in porn, he believes in woo and he married Rebecca Wade...how much more evidence does the court need to find him guilty of being a gullible moron?
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2014 16:28 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Right, but what makes it incriminating with regards to the Hackgate allegations? It just seems like a case of consulting your boss about an important political decision.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2014 16:13 |
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It's interesting to watch this. It's plain to everyone who wasn't born yesterday that NOTW was rife with this stuff, but proving it in a legal sense is another matter.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2014 14:52 |
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Plavski posted:Goddamn, this QC is brutal. No amount of money would exchange my place with Dan Evans right now. News Int. know how to throw their cash around. edit: the shittiness of being cross-examined seems like a big problem with a court system like ours that's based on trial by combat* *not an exaggeration, we've just replaced the swords with words.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2014 13:53 |
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Is expecting people to remember every detail of a conversation that happened half a decade ago (would you say it was a half moon, or a gibbous moon? Were you wearing a tie clip? I have surveillance camera footage proving that you weren't!) actually a valid legal strategy? I mean I presume the idea is to cast doubt on testimony, but to me all this proves so far is that people don't have eidetic memories
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2014 15:33 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 00:44 |
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Presumably the problem with that line of argument is that to make it accurate you'd have to modify it slightly to "Dan Evans is a masochistic druggy who made all this stuff up and got himself arrested because, um..."
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2014 14:02 |