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Dave Syndrome posted:You know, I wonder how rabid Karen Traviss fans took this episode, what with Mandalore's return to their warrior culture and all. The animation quality is night and day if you go back to S1 or the movie.
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# ? Jan 26, 2013 20:53 |
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Not only the animation, but also the texture and details. Really very well done and good-looking when it looked rather primitive in season one. Also, Mandalore gatherings look like a Lebensborn convention. Rather eery.
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# ? Jan 27, 2013 20:44 |
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My only complaint about this arc is it's not twice as long. A lot happened in these last two episodes, and considering the time spent on the drawn-out younglings/droid/rebels 4 parters before, it seems a shame this is so condensced. I really love what they've done with Maul. Would have been interesting to have this version of him in place of Grevious for Episode III.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 00:40 |
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Animation is labor intensive. They've outsourced everything to Shang hai but the intellectual property rights.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 01:42 |
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mmtt posted:The duel was nice, but as always it seems Jedi/Sith don't use their full powers when fighting 'normal' people. I still don't get it he didnt force choke Vizla instantly. I explained it by assuming Vizla had so much experience fighting, he wouldn't panic when Maul tried to choke him. Maul would be so focused on using the Force to choke Vizla that Maul wouldn't be able to defend himself when Vizla pulled out his pistols and shot him dead.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 05:22 |
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TheBigBad posted:Animation is labor intensive. They've outsourced everything to Shang hai but the intellectual property rights. Yeah, but that's what's done for most "U.S." animation series. Korea or China for the actual drawing/animation. Doesn't make it inferior though - Avatar: The Last Airbender for example gained a lot from their collaboration with the Korean studio.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 07:15 |
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mmtt posted:The duel was nice, but as always it seems Jedi/Sith don't use their full powers when fighting 'normal' people. I still don't get it he didnt force choke Vizla instantly. My take on this was that Maul was fighting Vizla specifically to win the loyalty of the rest of Death Watch. Since their tradition was they would only accept Maul as their new leader if he defeated Vizla in combat, maybe Maul assumed that using the Force would be seen as unfair by the Mandalorians. I'm trying to remember if Maul used the Force at all during any of the duel, even just to retrieve his lightsaber or anything like that? If not, Maul must have been specifically doing things the hard way just to put on a good show. That said, even without the Force, I'd think Maul should have been able to make much shorter work of Vizla. But again, it may have all just been for show. Kind of related, I started to roll my eyes at Death Watch's dependence on their jetpacks. Like with Jango in AOTC, once Vizla's jetpack came off, it was only a matter of time until he lost his head. You could probably argue that Vizla's dependence on all his gadget weaponry was almost as much of a crutch as Maul's use of the Force would have been, so it still wasn't really a fair fight of two combatants armed only with [energy] swords.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 15:56 |
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Sith Happens posted:My take on this was that Maul was fighting Vizla specifically to win the loyalty of the rest of Death Watch. Pretty much this. Compare his normal quiet and restrained way of speaking with his challenge to Viszla, suddenly all roaring and chest-thumping machismo.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 16:24 |
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^ Second this, Maul could easily just force grab/impale him the very second the duel started. He did not need to win, that was a given, he needed to convince. And even then, Bo Katan and the other not blindly orthodox mandalorians, decided to secede.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 17:30 |
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Maul was using the force anyway its how a Jedi/Sith can block blaster fire. Its likely how he dodged the explosives. I don't think the superiority it would have granted was reflected in the swordfight- but then that makes for a quick summary execution and bad entertainment value. I am curious about the line between man and machine. Was the Maul of this arc diminished from Phantom Menace Maul because he is half machine? Same for Vader vs Anakin. Or was he simply dialed back for the sake of good episodic storytelling?
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# ? Jan 29, 2013 07:21 |
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My impression was that they indeed seem to hint on him being diminished in the Force by his loss of the lower body. During the whole "conquer the underworld" thing two episodes ago he did let Savage do most of the fighting and he seems to use the Force only very seldom and not very flashy. Of course it could simply be the usual problem of the writers forgetting that their protagonists are freaking space wizards and don't need to use swords or fists for everything.
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# ? Jan 29, 2013 09:57 |
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Clip from the next episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlHQDjLil0Q
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 03:38 |
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How many episodes were completely wasted on that awful droid subplot, again? *slaps forehead* We could have had more of this. More of THIS, DAMNIT!
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 05:43 |
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Maul better not bite it for real without first solving the Ahsoka continuity snarl.
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# ? Jan 31, 2013 06:44 |
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yronic heroism posted:Maul better not bite it for real without first solving the Ahsoka continuity snarl. I think it would make more narrative sense for it to be Dooku who does that. Would add some extra oomph to the scene when Anakin kills him in III.
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# ? Feb 1, 2013 16:50 |
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Its a kids show. Its going to end with Asohka becoming a jedi knight and either just disappearing, or being sent off on a special mission in deep space and her getting her own spin off when she awakens from cryo sleep in 80 years. In fact, this is going to be the new trilogy, if only because Star Wars LOVES to gently caress over its fans.
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 04:35 |
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DarthXaos posted:I think it would make more narrative sense for it to be Dooku who does that. Would add some extra oomph to the scene when Anakin kills him in III. Yeah but who gives a Count Dooku about that guy.
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 07:51 |
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swickles posted:In fact, this is going to be the new trilogy, if only because Star Wars LOVES to gently caress over its fans. I love this. Lucas isn't around to kick so its just the franchise now. Star Wars has the BEST fans.
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 08:54 |
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Oh my. What a shocking turn of events
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 16:00 |
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Great episode. drat, the Countess and Savage
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 18:10 |
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drat, Sidious like a BOSS. I had wondered if they would have him go all out to keep a bit of the Episode III action a surprise, but nope. He was all over the place.
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 21:48 |
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While the episodea arc was cool, probably one of the best of all the seasons, Maul's rise and fall was rushed. Things could have been drawn out with him extending his influence outside Mandalore, transforming in a real threat as a third party and becoming a real wrench thrown in Palpatin's plans. Then the chancellor retaliation would have been more justified. Sidious is not one to reveal his plans and use brute force to prevail. Sidious came in as cackling power hungry mad man instead of patient and ruthless Sith Lord. I would have preferred if he had advanced masked, taking out methodically Maul bodyguards, leaving only a path of corpses for Maul to find, increasing the tension and underlining Maul's powerlessness. But I have to admit, the fight was well done, you could feel that Sidious was really toying with them and his mastery of the force powers is unmatched.
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# ? Feb 3, 2013 02:43 |
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Was I the only one who expected Satine to end her transmission for help with "Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you are my only hope."
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# ? Feb 3, 2013 03:18 |
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Sidious' initial flourish, scouring the ground was awesome. Super awesome episode.
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# ? Feb 3, 2013 06:16 |
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swickles posted:Its a kids show. Its going to end with Asohka becoming a jedi knight and either just disappearing, or being sent off on a special mission in deep space and her getting her own spin off when she awakens from cryo sleep in 80 years. In fact, this is going to be the new trilogy, if only because Star Wars LOVES to gently caress over its fans. A kid's show the second episode of which involved battle droids sadistically joking around while busting open escape pods so that the people within would die.
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# ? Feb 3, 2013 15:56 |
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DarthXaos posted:A kid's show the second episode of which involved battle droids sadistically joking around while busting open escape pods so that the people within would die. Also a show that just showed that they aren't afraid to kill off people (even if they aren't the main cast, they were at least second row). I agree that establishing Mandalore under Maul as a third party (even if it is only for a season or two), causing Palpatine problems would have been a more interesting path to take. Still a good arc and good episode. And while I had preferred a controlled Palpatine, coldly kill them all without them even being able to fight back instead of crackling master lightsaber user it was still a visually impressive fight. Decius fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 3, 2013 |
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Decius posted:Also a show that just showed that they aren't afraid to kill off people (even if they aren't the main cast, they were at least second row). You probably won't be seeing any of that once it moves over to Disney xd.
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# ? Feb 4, 2013 04:29 |
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swickles posted:Was I the only one who expected Satine to end her transmission for help with "Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you are my only hope." YES! I was white knuckling it, waiting for her to say it. Awesome episode. Incredible animation, and the scene where they open the blast doors and it's an all out Mandalorian battle going on was pretty sweet.
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# ? Feb 4, 2013 18:22 |
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You can watch episodes here now. Just recentish ones though I think: http://starwars.com/explore/the-clone-wars/syndication/
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# ? Feb 6, 2013 05:44 |
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I don't mind Palpatine being a vindictive cackling villain. It just about fits with how he's been portrayed in both episodes three and six, as someone who's a very patient and clever mastermind, but one who really likes to revel in the evil during those few times when the gloves come off. Edit: The Sith equivalent to let the force flow through you.
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# ? Feb 6, 2013 22:33 |
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Calliper posted:
My dreams are all coming true. Here is the trailer for the finale. Looks good actually http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr8wuEZaYcI
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# ? Feb 8, 2013 02:42 |
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Calliper posted:My dreams are all coming true. Here is the trailer for the finale. Looks good actually holy moly
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# ? Feb 8, 2013 04:44 |
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Calliper posted:My dreams are all coming true. Here is the trailer for the finale. Looks good actually Well that was dark.
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# ? Feb 8, 2013 04:52 |
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Here's a better quality version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfZq0ddylhE Man, such a good trailer but I can't help but lower my expectations in preparation for the awkward hand-waving they'll likely be doing by the end of this arc. They're not gonna kill off Ahsoka, folks. Maybe Ventress, maybe Maul, but not Ahsoka.
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# ? Feb 8, 2013 05:18 |
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EddieDean posted:I don't mind Palpatine being a vindictive cackling villain. I love how this episode basically showed what happens when he is just like "gently caress it, I'll handle this poo poo myself". Dude has to cut loose every now and then. Cross-Section posted:Man, such a good trailer but I can't help but lower my expectations in preparation for the awkward hand-waving they'll likely be doing by the end of this arc. They're not gonna kill off Ahsoka, folks. Maybe Ventress, maybe Maul, but not Ahsoka. I have faith that Ahsoka is going to go out in some heroic fashion. Probably involving an explosion or something. But as someone mentioned before, having Dooku kill her off would probably be a pretty good decision based on how Anakin offs him in Episode 3. DFu4ever fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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I'm really interested to see how they handle Ahsoka going forward. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but she's probably my favourite character on the show () and I'd love to see a post-Clone Wars story centered around her.
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# ? Feb 8, 2013 17:53 |
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm really interested to see how they handle Ahsoka going forward. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but she's probably my favourite character on the show and I'd love to see a post-Clone Wars story centered around her. A funeral?
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# ? Feb 8, 2013 17:54 |
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm really interested to see how they handle Ahsoka going forward. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but she's probably my favourite character on the show () and I'd love to see a post-Clone Wars story centered around her. I like her too. Didn't much in the beginning, but going forward they toned down the annoying parts and she turned out a good character in my opinion. Still, she has to disappear somewhere before Episode 6, for better or worse.
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# ? Feb 8, 2013 18:54 |
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i'm more pumped for some tarkin/clones action than all this ahsoka death chat
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm really interested to see how they handle Ahsoka going forward. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but she's probably my favourite character on the show () and I'd love to see a post-Clone Wars story centered around her. I love her I think she has great pathos that Hayden Christiansen hosed up with Anakin as a character.
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