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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




Paper Lion posted:

If you want a fun new champ then get singed.

He really needs a Pied Piper skin that makes his smoke into bars of music and plays a spritely tune while toggled

Nah, replace his poison bottle with a giant organ grinder style box organ, have the poison be music notes and his AoE slow thing be a dancing monkey he tosses out to trip up the enemy.

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Copycat Zero
Dec 30, 2004

ニャ~

czechshaun posted:

Is there a particular date that season 3 is going to start? Kinda wondering when my ElO is going to reset.

The end of Season 2 is the 23rd, if you want a deadline for when you have to get your Elo to a certain point.

No idea when Season 3 is actually going to start (I could give you the amount of time between Season 1 ending and Season 2 starting, but they've already shown that they're not going to keep to the same schedule, given that the interval between the Season 1 championships and the end of Season 1 was much larger than 10 days). Also no idea if the Elo actually physically resets at the end of Season 2 or the beginning of Season 3, if you're just hoping to blot out your current Elo altogether.

Copycat Zero fucked around with this message at Oct 15, 2012 around 03:07

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

What I'm saying is I would make out with the VirtuaRoid Angelin


Well I got Draven on the day of his release. I don't really know what kind of roll I'm really into wanting to play right now. I pretty much rock the game with Wukong, but that's probably because I've played the game just for him.

I guess an assassin type character since it's been a while. (Have LaBlanc)

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...

Bubble-T posted:

Ezreal is so clearly the best ADC overall that he does need a bit of a nerf. They've stated that they want his design to be about rapid spells and mobility but he's too good at 1v1ing so it's quite likely one of the attack speed buffs/debuffs in his kit will be taking the hit.

I keep seeing all these guys going EZ, and I don't know where they get this idea.

His main pokes all get avoided by just running side to side or being behind minions, and he's frail at the start. Not to mention the majority of people who play him are predictable as all get out, making it easy to guess exactly what he is going to do. The "rush in and spam the 1-2-3 attack combo" just results in a lot of wasted mana and being vulnerable for a few seconds, all from casually running sideways to him.

The main problem is that he is a slippery bastard. Hard to corner and catch unless he blows everything in a panic early on. Even so, almost always end up pushing him and his partner up against the tower within the first 5 minutes or so.

pandaK
May 5, 2011

It's like a fairy circle!


I like how one of the suggestions posted here on equalizing AD carries was to nerf IE and PD, two items that Ezreal does not usually rush or even get.

maketakunai
Jan 11, 2006

What do you mean,
"it's only a game"?!


Paper Lion posted:

If you want a fun new champ then get singed.

He really needs a Pied Piper skin that makes his smoke into bars of music and plays a spritely tune while toggled

Screw Beekeeper Singed, I really want this skin, it's so perfect

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.


czechshaun posted:

Is there a particular date that season 3 is going to start? Kinda wondering when my ElO is going to reset.

Word is there will be a few months between now and season 3.

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006


... at least we've got Aaron Rome!

pandaK posted:

I like how one of the suggestions posted here on equalizing AD carries was to nerf IE and PD, two items that Ezreal does not usually rush or even get.

If you're referring to my post, you should find and read it again.

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011


Zaodai posted:

Nah, replace his poison bottle with a giant organ grinder style box organ, have the poison be music notes and his AoE slow thing be a dancing monkey he tosses out to trip up the enemy.

Train Singed is better.

An old fashioned steam train, steam for his poison, his cow catcher to flip people and water shooting from the boiler for his slow. Then when he ults, the whistle starts.

Amos Moses
Oct 13, 2012


Is there any situation anymore where Mordekaiser is viable?

He's probably my favorite champion currently but it just seems like he gets completely shutdown in middle lane v.s. almost anyone.

I've tried going full on AP carry with him, off-tank, you name it. Unless the mid I'm against is insanely horrible I just fall off lategame and become a non-issue unless I can snag their ADC with my R.

I sort of miss old Mordekaiser.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!


I hate 4v5s. I hate them a lot. Went 0/8/2 in one. Not pretty.

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

It's funny, ever since taking a long break and coming back the only things I enjoy playing are weird things like AP BattleNunu and Tankmo. Maybe I should pick up the bug dude, he looks fun.

Jersey Mike
Jan 12, 2010


theshim posted:

I hate 4v5s. I hate them a lot. Went 0/8/2 in one. Not pretty.

LoL Forums Response: carry harder scrub.


In all seriousness, 4v5s suck but depending on when a teammate leaves, the game is still winnable. It's really lovely to deal with, especially if your team won't surrender when you are getting wrecked.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!


Jersey Mike posted:

LoL Forums Response: carry harder scrub.


In all seriousness, 4v5s suck but depending on when a teammate leaves, the game is still winnable. It's really lovely to deal with, especially if your team won't surrender when you are getting wrecked.
Our AD carry never connected. You can guess how that went, with Soraka solo bot.

I've won 4v5s before, but not that one. Not that one.

NTT
Nov 14, 2011


TIME TO END
THIS SO THE
FANS CANS STOP
COMPLAINING
LIKE LITTLE CRY
BABY BITCHES

I am so excited to see the s3 changes.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




Amos Moses posted:

Is there any situation anymore where Mordekaiser is viable?

He's probably my favorite champion currently but it just seems like he gets completely shutdown in middle lane v.s. almost anyone.

I've tried going full on AP carry with him, off-tank, you name it. Unless the mid I'm against is insanely horrible I just fall off lategame and become a non-issue unless I can snag their ADC with my R.

I sort of miss old Mordekaiser.

Run him top. His poke is better up there and you'll get ganked slightly less. At least that's what I do.

You should still use your R to snag their ADC in team fights though.

Taoto
Oct 22, 2010

Hehehe... Everything's going according to plan, right?


First time playing in a while, thanks to school and work. I think I carried too hard, guys.



HYPERPONY

Amos Moses
Oct 13, 2012


Zaodai posted:

Run him top. His poke is better up there and you'll get ganked slightly less. At least that's what I do.

You should still use your R to snag their ADC in team fights though.

I try to Morde top but solo queue.. soon as I call top/morde I either get a team that says I'm to go mid or threatens to troll if I dare go near top.

I've been playing alot of Rengar top lately and that's not even fair for anyone who goes top against him. It's just a drat shame Rengar is useless in team fights.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




Amos Moses posted:

I try to Morde top but solo queue.. soon as I call top/morde I either get a team that says I'm to go mid or threatens to troll if I dare go near top.

I have no idea what happened to change the general perception of Morde recently. People don't clamor for me to go mid with him, they just accuse me of trolling.

People are stupid, I don't know what to tell you.

Checkered Slacks
Apr 22, 2010


Amos Moses posted:

Is there any situation anymore where Mordekaiser is viable?

He's probably my favorite champion currently but it just seems like he gets completely shutdown in middle lane v.s. almost anyone.

I've tried going full on AP carry with him, off-tank, you name it. Unless the mid I'm against is insanely horrible I just fall off lategame and become a non-issue unless I can snag their ADC with my R.

I sort of miss old Mordekaiser.

Morde plays similar to new eve, in that you want to get a DFG and then roam to wombo someone with the DFG + ULT combo. Not having the stealth really hurts him though so maybe just try out eve and see if you like her

Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

Top lane Morde is even easier to gank than mid lane, if you're getting ganked less up there then you're playing against bad junglers/top laners. Top lane champs are generally better at farming under tower and freezing lanes which mitigate's Morde's main strength (pushing really loving hard).

Morde excels against mid lane champs that don't like to be pushed against, especially if they can't help well in ganks (Ryze is a more dangerous opponent than Vlad, for instance). Ward wraiths on both sides of the lane and steal them all game, build DFG and one-shot squishies.

Jersey Mike
Jan 12, 2010


NTT posted:

I am so excited to see the s3 changes.

As long as Morello's "we want to be disruptive with the game in S3" doesn't translate to Blizzard's definition of "disruptive", I'll be happy.

DGK2000
May 3, 2007

Hotel Soap is super proud of his little perfumed balls that never get dirty or stinky

Checkered Slacks posted:

Morde plays similar to new eve, in that you want to get a DFG and then roam to wombo someone with the DFG + ULT combo. Not having the stealth really hurts him though so maybe just try out eve and see if you like her

Eve is just a murder machine in mid if you don't misstep the first couple of levels. Give her a shot.

Bo Berry
Sep 21, 2011

Easy breezy beautiful colored world I'm in love with you
R-O-Y-G-B-I-V your colors are a comedy

I remember I had one game where we had a Mordekaiser go top. The rest of the team, myself included, was doing pretty poorly. Morde stomped top and took his tower down pretty fast. I thought that might help since we could at least focus on something else, but Morde just goes back top. He pushes to the next tower, gets ganked and kills both of them before dying. This repeated about 3 more times with some variation of a 2v1 or 3v1 with Morde killing at least 1 of them each time. He eventually took the inhibitor after giving us plenty of time to farm and take our own turrets. It was amazing and I've wanted to learn Morde ever since then, but I really don't know much about his kit or playstyle or who he does well against.

Amos Moses
Oct 13, 2012


Bo Berry posted:

I remember I had one game where we had a Mordekaiser go top. The rest of the team, myself included, was doing pretty poorly. Morde stomped top and took his tower down pretty fast. I thought that might help since we could at least focus on something else, but Morde just goes back top. He pushes to the next tower, gets ganked and kills both of them before dying. This repeated about 3 more times with some variation of a 2v1 or 3v1 with Morde killing at least 1 of them each time. He eventually took the inhibitor after giving us plenty of time to farm and take our own turrets. It was amazing and I've wanted to learn Morde ever since then, but I really don't know much about his kit or playstyle or who he does well against.

It's a drat shame you never got to play pre-nerf Mordekaiser. There was something amazing about being able to take on an entire team by yourself.

I'm not even exaggerating. You could 1v5 as Mordekaiser.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

It was not scary. It was just...abnormal.


DGK2000 posted:

Eve is just a murder machine in mid if you don't misstep the first couple of levels. Give her a shot.

Who actually counters Eve mid?

Philip Rivers
Mar 15, 2010

I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt.


abigserve posted:

Who actually counters Eve mid?

I'd assume someone like Orianna or Zyra who just has a massive range advantage they can use to zone the poo poo out of Eve, but I dunno, I'm hardly an expert on mid matchups.

Veev
Oct 21, 2010

K is for kid.
A guy or gal just like you.
Dont be in such a hurry to grow up, since there's nothin' a kid can't do.


Amos Moses posted:

It's a drat shame you never got to play pre-nerf Mordekaiser. There was something amazing about being able to take on an entire team by yourself.

I'm not even exaggerating. You could 1v5 as Mordekaiser.

The greatest was when you were jumped 1v5 and if they managed to not chain CC for just one second their carry was dead.

Jersey Mike
Jan 12, 2010


abigserve posted:

Who actually counters Eve mid?

Hello. My name is Kassadin. I counter everyone mid. Except Talon. Because gently caress him.


I've never actually had an issue against Evelynn mid. I must be playing some awful mid Eve players or I just have no fucks to give.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007



To those wondering what jungler can do the jungle without runes and stuff, the answer is warwick. At lower levels to where no one wards his ult is really powerful as well because a 2 second stun is pretty much enough time for your lane dude to gib the guy you just ultied.

Koskinator
Nov 4, 2009

MOURNFUL: ALAS,
POOR YORICK


abigserve posted:

Who actually counters Eve mid?

Ryze seems like he would work pretty well past the super early game.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I have special eyes.

Just think of all the cool stuff I can see.


I was under the impression that Eve's real strength is in her roaming potential. Most traditional mids probably have ways of dealing with her assuming she's actually visible and/or actually in lane. Even the few that are short enough range to be in her danger zone more often have ways of potentially shutting her down (Annie, Ryze, TF).

Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

The thing about Eve mid in solo queue is she's one of those champs that can lose lane and just go get fed off your stupid allies unless you really stomp her in to the ground. She's an incredible roamer. Slowing down her DFG does hurt her a fair bit though.

Hate spike only has 500 range and dark frenzy makes her very good at avoiding slows/skillshots or engaging right after a long cooldown skill has been used. Champions like Kassadin or Ryze are good because they can guaranteed punish her for coming in range, I imagine Cassiopeia is good too. I'd like to try Mordekaiser against her in fact.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010


Jersey Mike posted:

As long as Morello's "we want to be disruptive with the game in S3" doesn't translate to Blizzard's definition of "disruptive", I'll be happy.

I don't know what is meant by the Blizzard definition of "disruptive", but I hope that Riot actually means disruptive. Like totally redoing wards, removing crit and gp10 items, nerfing defensive items to compensate for the removal of crit, and making a lot of items with actives instead of just more stat sticks. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they'll do before season 3.

Especially to Karma, because god drat is she terrible. Every now and then I load her up in a bot match just for fun and to remind myself of how bad she is. It's not surprising that nobody knows what her W does because the move speed changes are barely noticeable and it's ridiculously impractical to land the damage. The OP or second post should have "DO NOT PLAY KARMA (at least until she's remade)" in giant, flashing, neon letters. Also one for Fiora, but without the remake clause because we all know she's never going to get remade.

And I, too, miss old school Morde. He was the hardest carry in the game for a time, and totally undiscovered to boot, until people stopped trying to build him tanky.

Edit: A patch just went out. Anyone know what it did?

chumbler fucked around with this message at Oct 15, 2012 around 06:03

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

abigserve posted:

Who actually counters Eve mid?

Morde, Ryze, Kass, Wukong or any beefy guy, to name a few. Pretty much anyone who doesn't give a poo poo about suddenly being in melee range with a squishy caster. Bonus for people who can vaporise lanes like Morde, Sion or Galio. Have fun ganking while I take your middle inhibitor.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS


Talon is hilarious versus Eve too.

Also does anyone want to trade their Championship Riven skin for a Riot Graves or Arcade Sona? I hate having extra cards!

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I have special eyes.

Just think of all the cool stuff I can see.


chumbler posted:

It's not surprising that nobody knows what her W does because the move speed changes are barely noticeable and it's ridiculously impractical to land the damage.

Karma's W is actually pretty good for farming, though.

I think her core issue continues to be an uncertainty of whether or not she's supposed to be an AP nuker (which she's...alright at, assuming she can mantra her E often enough), a straight support (which she's thoroughly mediocre to outright bad at), or an AP/utility caster like Orianna (but doesn't have the options or depth Ori gets thanks to mantras holding her back). And all three possible roles are stifled anyway by her awkward ability scaling and absurd mana costs.

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at Oct 15, 2012 around 06:19

Gin
Aug 29, 2004
and Tonic

Cuchulain posted:

Morde, Ryze, Kass, Wukong or any beefy guy, to name a few. Pretty much anyone who doesn't give a poo poo about suddenly being in melee range with a squishy caster. Bonus for people who can vaporise lanes like Morde, Sion or Galio. Have fun ganking while I take your middle inhibitor.

I agree with the rest but Wukong and Sion in mid? I like Sion a whole lot but I'd have no idea where to put him.

Zahki
Nov 7, 2004


chumbler posted:

I don't know what is meant by the Blizzard definition of "disruptive", but I hope that Riot actually means disruptive. Like totally redoing wards, removing crit and gp10 items, nerfing defensive items to compensate for the removal of crit, and making a lot of items with actives instead of just more stat sticks. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they'll do before season 3.

I agree, I'd like to see things really shaken up as well. Maybe some more consumable items as well that would be useful even if you're not at 6 items yet.

It would be a ballsy move by Riot though if they actually did it, LoL is one of the most popular games in the world in it's current state, people are clearly mostly happy with the way it is at the moment, mucking around with things too much (i.e removing crit items) might turn people off.

I hope they do have the balls to make big changes, but I'm not really expecting it, when you have a cashcow like LoL you generally don't rock the boat too much.

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Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

Gin posted:

I agree with the rest but Wukong and Sion in mid? I like Sion a whole lot but I'd have no idea where to put him.

Sion is usually a mid when he gets played, he was crazy popular a few months ago for awhile. Grab boots 5 and build AP, melt a creepwave and go ganking.

Wukong makes his way mid occasionally because he hits like a goddamn train and is very hard to poke down.

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