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Endorph posted:Maybe they'll finally do something about all these manaless heroes not being able to effectively build half the items in the game. Oh no, our poor spamhappy manaless characters! Though I guess I'm not really mad about energy/cooldown/health champs now that they've added Athenes and people who use mana don't actually get totally screwed in comparison.
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Endorph posted:MiSSing. MIA has keys all over the board, ss is typed without moving your left hand off the default (dumb if you still use default) keys for actions.
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Endorph posted:MiSSing. Wow, that's dumb as poo poo.
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Just gut the map entirely and toy with new ideas. Removing infinite wards would be wonderful, but I find it hard to believe the meta will change without a direct map alteration, barring an extreme overhaul of the vast majority of existing champions which just won't happen (changing and removing several problem skills like blinks that can skip walls and abilities that scale off defensive stats, etc.). poo poo, keep blinks in and thicken certain key walls so they can't be blinked over, among other map changes (please remove dragon). Badfinger posted:Wow, that's dumb as poo poo. It's faster to type and the standard go-to for many players used to other games. It's pretty reasonable actually.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:14 |
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Badfinger posted:Wow, that's dumb as poo poo. It's a preference and I honestly don't know why people don't know what 'ss' is when the term has existed for years Granted I also grew up on DotA so it's sort of a thing for me.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:16 |
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They haven't done anything major since the jungle revision. I doubt they'll really do all that much because they actively design towards the standard meta now.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:16 |
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Endorph posted:MiSSing. I have been playing LoL for more than a year on European server and I don't think I have seen someone type MIA more than 10 times during my whole LoL career. 
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mighar posted:I have been playing LoL for more than a year on European server and I don't think I have seen someone type MIA more than 10 times during my whole LoL career.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:19 |
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I never asked but I assumed it meant "Summoner Spell" like "Their flash is down" which now makes sense in context after I try and gank a lane calling "SS" and they still have a flash 
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:20 |
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Count Bleck posted:It's a preference and I honestly don't know why people don't know what 'ss' is when the term has existed for years "MIA" is also an acronym that means actual words. Plus if you're saying anything OTHER than just "ss" you're typing more letters. If I specifically say SONA is missing or EZ is missing then I'm not saving any time. Or "mid/top". There is more discrete information that can be surfaced quickly than just saying SOMEONE is missing. MIA has existed for centuries, but I'm certain many people don't know what it means. And that's ok. At least I know what SS means now and I don't have to worry about the Gestapo coming after me.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:24 |
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Badfinger posted:At least I know what SS means now and I don't have to worry about the Gestapo coming after me. Vee haf vays off making you vard, Badfinger.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:25 |
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Badfinger posted:"MIA" is also an acronym that means actual words. Plus if you're saying anything OTHER than just "ss" you're typing more letters. If I specifically say SONA is missing or EZ is missing then I'm not saving any time. Or "mid/top". There is more discrete information that can be surfaced quickly than just saying SOMEONE is missing. To be fair, MIA is also stupid in the context of this game.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:33 |
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^^^ Kinda? They're missing but not dead. It's usually someone on your own side though, true enough.Barudak posted:Vee haf vays off making you vard, Badfinger. But... but I just bought a full stack! Maybe the jungler could buy some wards too? 
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:32 |
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I am 90% certain that 'SS' means 'Stay safe'
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:37 |
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Count Bleck posted:It's a preference and I honestly don't know why people don't know what 'ss' is when the term has existed for years People on NA use mia, every other server uses ss.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:39 |
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Biowarfare posted:People on NA use mia, every other server uses ss. I generally just use a v-ping.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:43 |
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SS makes mores sense because it is vastly easier to type and can be done in a fraction of the time taken (Half a second is actually quite important if you're trying to secure last hits). People who complain about it not being intuitive need to learn it. That's all, it's just as easy to understand once it's the standard.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:45 |
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Zauper posted:I generally just use a v-ping. I'm trying to imagine the number of people who have wrongfully yelled at you for "not calling mia" because they didn't understand the ping. I am not sure I want to know the number. Put me in the group of people who had not heard of "ss" until a few weeks ago. I never played a moba until this year, and even then it was always "mia".
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TalonDemonKing posted:I am 90% certain that 'SS' means 'Stay safe' I remember seeing 'SS' in war3 dota and that seems pretty familiar.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:51 |
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I'm sticking with "Mine opponent, the knave, hath departed my lane hastily! Clutch tight to the warm embrace of the tower, lest you be caught by that most pernicious evil: the gank."
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:54 |
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Krumbsthumbs posted:I'm trying to imagine the number of people who have wrongfully yelled at you for "not calling mia" because they didn't understand the ping. I am not sure I want to know the number. It's actually not that many. And after the first time they do, I just explain it to them. The reality is, a v-ping takes much less time (you aren't required to move to the 'enter' key to start typing, which means you never take your hand off your mouse or keys) that typing 'ss' or 'mia' This is particularly important when you're playing mid vs a ganker / pusher, because you won't have sight on them all or even most of the time after they clear your wave.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:55 |
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I type pretty fast so "Mia janna bot" take such insignificant time all I'm going to miss is dancing around a creep for 3 seconds waiting on a last hit. Not that anyone even reads chat unless it's to rage at someone else
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Catagorical posted:I'm sticking with "Mine opponent, the knave, hath departed my lane hastily! Clutch tight to the warm embrace of the tower, lest you be caught by that most pernicious evil: the gank." I want to macro this
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 15:58 |
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Biowarfare posted:People on NA use mia, every other server uses ss. First metrics, now missing calls!  Flameingblack posted:Not that anyone even reads chat unless it's to rage at someone else I like to think that when people get ganked by other lanes that they immediately bring up the chat to find the person in that lane's mia call, if they can't find it they have every right to yell at that person and call them bad and tell them how many times their mother sucked Mr. Farm Until 6wick's dick last night. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at Oct 15, 2012 around 16:02 |
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Catagorical posted:I'm sticking with "Mine opponent, the knave, hath departed my lane hastily! Clutch tight to the warm embrace of the tower, lest you be caught by that most pernicious evil: the gank." I have done this when people were claiming I wasn't calling MIA. In fact, I started doing it for every lane. It was really fun. I like the new thread title, by the by.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:00 |
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I'm getting used to typing ss 3 times whenever anyone leaves lane. But then again, they still die to ganks somehow
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:05 |
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I don't worry about MIA, I welcome the opportunity to meet with the enemy jungler and duo bot in mid after bot lane collapsed. I call it the quadrakill window. Seriously though. I tend to build Wriggle's a lot on top and bring a ward back and then ward up their jungle exit and my river bush. In mid I usually come back to lane with 2 wards and ward up their wraith exit and my side bush. In bot lane if I'm supporting I'm warding up their jungle exit and bush. I don't get ganked. Because I'm playing wards with friends.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:10 |
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I built a Wriggle's last night for the first time in months.  I was Udyr top against Yorick. Almost everything I've been playing has either been Rumble top, support, or occasionally ADC/Mid. For all that Wriggle's is boss, I haven't played anyone who made good use of it in forever.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:18 |
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Puistokemisti posted:Like what? Less emphasis on "stat sticks" and a greater emphasis on active items and other special effects.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:27 |
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I know at least two things that have been specifically mentioned by developers are better ad caster itemization and anti-kite itemization, however that's going to be implemented.
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theshim posted:I built a Wriggle's last night for the first time in months. It's interesting watching the game evolve in small ways. Wriggle's is still the same awesome item it ever was, but playing Olaf top/jungle for example I've been getting philo/HOG. Or Skarner/Udyr/Nautilus and you can go GP10 straight into Aegis, or if you're building offense a Wit's End instead of Wiggle's. I used to always get Wriggle's on Riven, now I might get phage/hexdrinker and it's totally valid.
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Violently Car posted:Less emphasis on "stat sticks" and a greater emphasis on active items and other special effects. Personally, I prefer stat sticks to a greater emphasis on active items because it makes champion select more important and interesting, and makes the individual champions abilities more important. That said, I do think some of the stat sticks could afford to be nerfed some.
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TalonDemonKing posted:I am 90% certain that 'SS' means 'Stay safe' It doesn't. It's the two s's in 'missing'. It stands for 'missing'. That or you're typing in teamchat for someone on the enemy team to stay safe (stay safe Olaf ).Zauper posted:Personally, I prefer stat sticks to a greater emphasis on active items because it makes champion select more important and interesting, and makes the individual champions abilities more important. Active items don't degrade individual champions because certain champions make better use of actives than others. Some champions may end up wanting a certain active effect item as core, but it's not like that's any different from the current AD carry = IE+PD, or more specifically things like Riven = Bloodthirster. However, the active effects create more interesting gameplay instead of "I get damage and lifesteal yay ".
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If they limit wards - and they really should - just adopt the DotA/HoN change. Regular wards are on a limited cooldown, stealth revealing wards have good stealth reveal vision range, but poor actual vision range. Oh, and then remove the ward effect from Wriggles; the ward it provides will become a premium otherwise.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:38 |
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Just give every item the ghostblade active and we're set.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:44 |
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Count Bleck posted:I like to think that when people get ganked by other lanes that they immediately bring up the chat to find the person in that lane's mia call, if they can't find it they have every right to yell at that person and call them bad and tell them how many times their mother sucked Mr. Farm Until 6wick's dick last night.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2012 16:48 |
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Whatever you type, if your teammates can't watch their minimap, they probably can't keep up with chat either. It's just there so you can to tell them to gently caress off when they get ganked and start chatting "MIA? Where our mia?"
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sentrygun posted:Active items don't degrade individual champions because certain champions make better use of actives than others. Some champions may end up wanting a certain active effect item as core, but it's not like that's any different from the current AD carry = IE+PD, or more specifically things like Riven = Bloodthirster. However, the active effects create more interesting gameplay instead of "I get damage and lifesteal yay As long as none of the Actives will be a CC effect.
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DNK posted:Just give every item the ghostblade active and we're set.
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Puistokemisti posted:As long as none of the Actives will be a CC effect. Randuin's Omen already has one.
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