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Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
http://www.therustytoque.com/

Dunno if this counts as schilling or not since I'm only a volunteer lackey on the review staff, but the Rusty Toque is a super new online Lit Journal operating out of the University of Western Ontario. The exposure isn't too great right now, but I can tell you from first hand experience that the submissions we get are hilariously awful. Seriously, if you poo poo on a page and scan it, it's going to be head and shoulders above the usual crop.

Though it's based in Canada it accepts international submissions and it's free to submit. IMO it's a pretty good place to think about if you are an inexperienced writer looking to get published who thinks they can do better than a guy who literally wrote an entire piece on his favourite pornography and goes into meticulous detail about how he jerks off.

Takes poetry, fiction, creative nonfiction, and graphic short fiction. Since the editors work full time as profs, it may take a while to get a reply though. :(

Chexoid fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Dec 18, 2012

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SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Chexoid posted:

http://www.therustytoque.com/

Dunno if this counts as schilling or not since I'm only a volunteer lackey on the review staff, but the Rusty Toque is a super new Lit Journal operating out of the University of Western Ontario. The exposure isn't too great right now, but I can tell you from first hand experience that the submissions we get are hilariously awful. Seriously, if you poo poo on a page and scan it, it's going to be head and shoulders above the usual crop.

Though it's based in Canada it accepts international submissions. IMO it's a pretty good place to think about if you are an inexperienced writer who thinks they can do better than a guy who literally wrote an entire piece on his favourite pornography and goes into meticulous detail about how he jerks off.

Takes poetry, fiction, creative nonfiction, and graphic short fiction. Since the editors work full time as profs, it may take a while to get a reply though. :(

quote:

If your work is accepted, we apply for a small honorarium (approximately $50 per contributor) through a grant from the university. Payment is conditional on the approval of this grant. This is an interim funding solution as we are in the process of securing a more stable financial structure to pay writers.
I'm not sure I understand this. Can I be paid if I'm not a student at the university?

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I'm not sure I understand this. Can I be paid if I'm not a student at the university?

Sent an email asking this to one of the profs in charge, and yes you can. Students at the university aren't allowed to submit there anyway.

Molly Bloom
Nov 9, 2006

Yes.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I'm not sure I understand this. Can I be paid if I'm not a student at the university?

I read it to say that payment isn't a sure thing. When they've got something they want to publish, they apply for a grant (for the magazine) to pay you $50. Having run a Uni lit society before, we'd put together the mag and then ask the uni for the money to pay to produce it. So they likely say 'hey, we've got 4 pieces at $50, so $200 plus base cost please'. If the Uni denies the grant, then you're published but no cash.

asylum years
Feb 27, 2009

you knew i was a rattlesnake when you picked me up

Chexoid posted:

Dunno if this counts as schilling or not

Hell, for the purposes of this thread, I think schilling is completely appropriate anyways and would love to see more of it.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Yeah, and I'd definitely love to hear more from the other side of the coin, from people who are running/editing/volunteering for lit mags.

I wouldn't mind participating in one myself on a low key basis - are they generally on the lookout for slush pile readers? I always get the impression that slush reading is a really hated job and they're desperate for help.

On the other hand, like I said earlier, I usually don't even read stuff that gets published so maybe I'm not the guy who should be setting the bar for others.

Time Cowboy
Nov 4, 2007

But Tarzan... The strangest thing has happened! I'm as bare... as the day I was born!
http://scareship.com

Oh, if we're allowed to shill, this is the zine I run. I'm aiming for literary SF, but I'm still sorting out the general tone; at this point, only two issues in, if I like a story I'll take it. asylum years, you were quite helpful, giving me lots of advice when I was first starting out. I don't know if you've seen the finished product, actually. For a brand new non-paying zine, we've gotten some amazing submissions. The upcoming March issue is looking especially spectacular, if I say so myself.

I guess I could check in on this thread and answer questions people might have about running an SF zine. In my tiny circle of editor friends, we're worried that Duotrope going subscription only will kill a lot of the smaller non-paying lit zines out there. Hopefully we'll still be around this time next year.

asylum years
Feb 27, 2009

you knew i was a rattlesnake when you picked me up

Time Cowboy posted:

http://scareship.com
I guess I could check in on this thread and answer questions people might have about running an SF zine. In my tiny circle of editor friends, we're worried that Duotrope going subscription only will kill a lot of the smaller non-paying lit zines out there. Hopefully we'll still be around this time next year.

It looks nice! You're right; I hadn't seen it yet.

I don't think you should let the Duotrope business shake you up at all, really. I think people greatly overestimate how much it'll affect anyone, and your top priority should be getting more readers, not blind submitters, right? Easier said than done, of course.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Chexoid posted:

Sent an email asking this to one of the profs in charge, and yes you can. Students at the university aren't allowed to submit there anyway.

Wait, those terrible entries about porn are from the students? The literary journal at my university is actually pretty amazing then. :psyduck:

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.

change my name posted:

Wait, those terrible entries about porn are from the students? The literary journal at my university is actually pretty amazing then. :psyduck:

Oh, I meant to say that students aren't allowed to submit to that journal at all, so those kinds of entries are usually from proud Canadians :canada:. There's a separate one that university students submit to that is super amazing and accepts entries from only the most brilliant and handsome writers who are also wicked sick with the ladies.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Ah, alright. I read that as "their entries were so bad we just stopped taking them".

witchcore ricepunk
Jul 6, 2003

The Golden Witch
Who Solved the Epitaph


A Probability of 1/2,578,917

asylum years posted:

Nice, you'll have to let us know when it comes out. I get that magazine at the office, I think (exchange copy), but I don't know that I've ever actually sat down and read it.

It's finally up! Yay! I've also started self-publishing erotica, so it's really funny to have a foot in both worlds. I'm still really excited about this, though :)

asylum years
Feb 27, 2009

you knew i was a rattlesnake when you picked me up

Tender Child Loins posted:

It's finally up! Yay! I've also started self-publishing erotica, so it's really funny to have a foot in both worlds. I'm still really excited about this, though :)

This is great! Like, on the real. I read it over breakfast and coffee.

witchcore ricepunk
Jul 6, 2003

The Golden Witch
Who Solved the Epitaph


A Probability of 1/2,578,917

asylum years posted:

This is great! Like, on the real. I read it over breakfast and coffee.

Thanks so much! I really appreciate it.

budgieinspector
Mar 24, 2006

According to my research,
these would appear to be
Budgerigars.

asylum years posted:

p.s. for this issue, I got some poems in from an actress popular in the 80s who I used to fantasize about when I was a kid. They were poo poo.

I don't suppose this actress once spent an entire film playing hooky around Chicago? Because that certain person just got published in PANK. I don't really have an opinion on her piece, though.

Time Cowboy
Nov 4, 2007

But Tarzan... The strangest thing has happened! I'm as bare... as the day I was born!

asylum years posted:

It looks nice! You're right; I hadn't seen it yet.

I don't think you should let the Duotrope business shake you up at all, really. I think people greatly overestimate how much it'll affect anyone, and your top priority should be getting more readers, not blind submitters, right? Easier said than done, of course.

Speaking of attracting more readers, one of the writers I published recently asked me if I'd sent the magazine in for reviews anywhere. This had never crossed my mind, naturally. Anything not directly involved in reading submissions and putting out a good product may as well be rites of some moon-language mystery religion as far as I'm concerned.

I submitted a query to SF Signal, but I doubt anything will come of it -- they only seem to review pro magazines and for-real published books. Are there any other respectable sites or blogs out there that might be willing to review an exposure-only genre magazine?

vtlock
Feb 7, 2003

Time Cowboy posted:

I submitted a query to SF Signal, but I doubt anything will come of it -- they only seem to review pro magazines and for-real published books. Are there any other respectable sites or blogs out there that might be willing to review an exposure-only genre magazine?

Newpages.com?

Time Cowboy
Nov 4, 2007

But Tarzan... The strangest thing has happened! I'm as bare... as the day I was born!

vtlock posted:

Newpages.com?

Newpages doesn't really bother with genre mags, outside of the big, long-established pro titles.

asylum years
Feb 27, 2009

you knew i was a rattlesnake when you picked me up

budgieinspector posted:

I don't suppose this actress once spent an entire film playing hooky around Chicago? Because that certain person just got published in PANK. I don't really have an opinion on her piece, though.

Oh snap, I missed this. It may be this same person, yes. What she sent PANK is better than what I was sent.

Just got another celebrity one today, actually. Someone from Justified.

Noah
May 31, 2011

Come at me baby bitch

asylum years posted:


Yeah, you were one of the people I had in mind when I mentioned goons starting journals. You should get on that!

I got a new job! In a couple of months the lit magazine will be up and running again, and will pay!

budgieinspector
Mar 24, 2006

According to my research,
these would appear to be
Budgerigars.

I've set A Goal for myself:



I'm tracking 40 deadlines on Duotrope (mostly fixed reading periods, but also a few contests and anthologies) which extend through November. I intend to submit something to at least 80% of these publications by their closing dates. I've already hit up seventeen of them in the last month. 2013 shall be the year I harass poor, overworked editors from coast to coast.

Cast Iron Brick
Apr 24, 2008
I've been kind of fumbling around and haven't seen much on this. Is there any free service for Duotrope anymore? And if so, how do I find it?

asylum years
Feb 27, 2009

you knew i was a rattlesnake when you picked me up

budgieinspector posted:

I'm tracking 40 deadlines on Duotrope (mostly fixed reading periods, but also a few contests and anthologies) which extend through November. I intend to submit something to at least 80% of these publications by their closing dates. I've already hit up seventeen of them in the last month. 2013 shall be the year I harass poor, overworked editors from coast to coast.

This is what it takes I guess, unless you're George Saunders or something. I submitted to six this month and felt good about it, but you've got me thinking it's time to send out another round.

(p.s. OP is updated; I know it gets slower during the winter.)

budgieinspector
Mar 24, 2006

According to my research,
these would appear to be
Budgerigars.

asylum years posted:

(p.s. OP is updated;

quote:

New Contests:

Gulf Coast's triple-threat of contests (fiction, poetry, creative nonfiction) is on again. The $23 entry fee includes a one-year subscription to the magazine, which in my humble opinion is well worth it and then some (it's a great magazine.) Deadline: March 15th

Hometown mag. Guess I oughta represent...

asylum years
Feb 27, 2009

you knew i was a rattlesnake when you picked me up

budgieinspector posted:

Hometown mag. Guess I oughta represent...

Gulf Coast is great. I almost said "lucky you," but then I remembered that means you're in Texas.

budgieinspector
Mar 24, 2006

According to my research,
these would appear to be
Budgerigars.

asylum years posted:

Gulf Coast is great. I almost said "lucky you," but then I remembered that means you're in Texas.

drat. Everybody always gotta tell a Texan to hate his home.

I mean, I'm not there anymore, but that doesn't make me any less proud of where I'm from.

Anyway, I contacted a buddy of mine who's doing his Ph.D. in English Lit at U of H, and he seemed only vaguely aware of Gulf Coast... which made me simultaneously relieved that I wasn't the only one who'd never checked it out, and saddened by the fact that it just isn't known around town--even by people who've spent years in the university's English department.

EDIT:

Went out to do laundry. Came home to find rejection notices from two different publications.

Fuckin' hell, guys--stagger this poo poo, if you want enough writers aboveground to contribute to your publications.

Unless the goal is to cull the weak among us until you're left with a breed of superscribe, which wanders the Earth, bellowing, "I FEEL NO PLEASURE. I FEEL NO PAIN. I OBSERVE AND REPORT, AND THUS MY LIFE HAS MEANING."

budgieinspector fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Feb 18, 2013

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
If anyone is interested, I have a little literary/art magazine I do on the side: http://lostinthoughtmag.com/

Issue 4 is coming out soon and I'm really happy with how it turned out.

asylum years
Feb 27, 2009

you knew i was a rattlesnake when you picked me up

budgieinspector posted:

drat. Everybody always gotta tell a Texan to hate his home.

I mean, I'm not there anymore, but that doesn't make me any less proud of where I'm from.

I know, I know, I'm sorry. That was rude.

quote:

Anyway, I contacted a buddy of mine who's doing his Ph.D. in English Lit at U of H, and he seemed only vaguely aware of Gulf Coast... which made me simultaneously relieved that I wasn't the only one who'd never checked it out, and saddened by the fact that it just isn't known around town--even by people who've spent years in the university's English department.

It's a pretty big deal, as far as university affiliated journals go. Donald Barthelme founded it, and they have particularly cool covers.

triplexpac posted:

If anyone is interested, I have a little literary/art magazine I do on the side: http://lostinthoughtmag.com/

Issue 4 is coming out soon and I'm really happy with how it turned out.

Very cool design in my opinion. Anyone who gets away from that standard huge-margins-and-big-block-of-text-on-white-background thing is doing well.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I just released issue 4 of my Lost in Thought magazine, and I'm looking for places to review it.

I see in the OP there is NewPages and The Review Review. Can anyone recommend any other sites that deal with this sort of thing?

I'm not picky, I'm looking for anywhere at all to take a look and help spread the word. I have no budget for this project, so I'm depending on word of mouth.

Time Cowboy
Nov 4, 2007

But Tarzan... The strangest thing has happened! I'm as bare... as the day I was born!
I'd still love to find any good sites that review small genre mags. Neither NewPages nor the Review Review will touch genre stuff.

The new issue of Scareship is up today, by the way.

budgieinspector
Mar 24, 2006

According to my research,
these would appear to be
Budgerigars.

Today:

Got an acceptance from Vestal Review for something I dashed off in a couple of minutes.

Got a rejection from Black Warrior Review for pieces I've been polishing for months.

It would seem that the acceptability of my work is inversely proportional to the time I spend working on it.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I've got a piece which I finished about eight months ago and have been sending around, and almost every rejection I got for it has been mentioning that it was shortlisted, or made their final reading round, only to be ultimately rejected. It's driving me nuts, I'd rather get a form rejection.

budgieinspector
Mar 24, 2006

According to my research,
these would appear to be
Budgerigars.

Really? I'll trade you. Getting tired as hell of form rejections.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Oh, I'm getting plenty of those for all my other trunk stories.

I probably need to lower my standards a bit; I sold two stories simultaneously at the end of last year for token amounts of money, and now I feel like I broke through that barrier and shouldn't have to go back to unpaid magazines. But that's fuzzy logic.

Weirdly, though, like you, one of those stories was also a first-submission acceptance for something I wrote in less than a day.

Molly Bloom
Nov 9, 2006

Yes.
I posted over in the Fiction discussion thread, but I'm pretty sick of form rejections now, too. I'm sick of all the rejections. I keep putting stuff out there, but damned if it isn't actually worse than when I was submitting papers to conferences.

I've sold jack poo poo. Still, got six out there. Maybe something. I hope soon.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Time Cowboy posted:



The new issue of Scareship is up today, by the way.

I noticed on the first story, "Tam Linn" is written twice, but once it is spelled "Tam Lin". Seems like a typo.

deptstoremook
Jan 12, 2004
my mom got scared and said "you're moving with your Aunt and Uncle in Bel-Air!"
I finally got a poem published. Not the most exclusive journal, but I can still use this on my cover letters to show that not everyone hates me, right? I think that will help a bit.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Well done! Most journals say they don't care about your previous publications and judge your work on its merits, which is probably true for most of them, but getting published is just good for your self esteem anyway.

budgieinspector
Mar 24, 2006

According to my research,
these would appear to be
Budgerigars.

Got an acceptance letter for five poems, yesterday. The self-esteem boost was much needed. I've had seven rejection letters come in over the last month.

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squeegee
Jul 22, 2001

Bright as the sun.
FYI the journal Subtropics pays $1000 for an accepted short story and they have an insane turnaround time right now-- according to Duotrope they are averaging 8 days for a response. I just got a 3-day rejection. I'd be a little insulted if I wasn't so impressed. They don't take genre work though so this is only relevant if you write general fiction.

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