|
duck monster posted:20 years of hysterical headlines about "welfare cheats", "muslim extremists", "communist labor/union conspiracies" etc will do that to a country. It's not like Europe is that much different these days anyway. (to tie this into the topic, are we only discussing American media or would UK/Euro stuff also be fair game?)
|
#
¿
Oct 17, 2012 01:29
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 29, 2024 17:02 |
|
|
Thundercracker posted:I've always wondered why the left wasn't able to replicate the same thing. If SA is to go by the ultra-left isn't short on incoherent rage. Why is there no leftist version of Rush calling people unamerican? Because the modern left is individualist as gently caress and so hates each other almost as much as the right, and the last time a bunch of collectivist leftists got together they got beat down.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 17, 2012 14:18
|
|
|
Tibeerius posted:The right-wing messaging machine works because it preys on fear and cognitive dissonance; things that (justifiably) repel most leftists. How is "society is unsustainable and if we don't do something now the end of humanity is upon us" (a statement I have heard from many leftists) not preying on fear? e: I mean, it might be *true*, but that doesn't mean you're still not using an emotional appeal. computer parts fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Oct 18, 2012 |
|
#
¿
Oct 18, 2012 17:45
|
|
|
the jizz taxi posted:I sometimes bring up that the mainstream Republican voter base / party is fascist and I'm often met with doubt and resistance to this idea, but really, if this isn't an example of a totalitarian mindset, I don't know what is. At some point you've got to call a spade a spade and stop arguing about semantic minutiae. The current US right-wing checks off all 14 checkboxes of Umberto Eco's definition of Ur-Fascism. http://orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc
|
|
#
¿
Oct 30, 2012 17:30
|
|
|
Countblanc posted:Libertarianism is exactly why I'm cautious about saying the political climate will be better once the Boomers are gone. Sure, social issues poll well among the youth and have gotten increasingly more progressive over time, but I swear that economic issues are absolutely hosed. Like you, I have educated friends who are extremely socially liberal (and not just "do as you please," but donating time and money to charity and attending Gay and Women's Rights rallies), but are terrified of scary phrases like "increased spending" and "higher taxes." You're only looking at it from one side, though. Keep in mind, a lot of people vote Republican/don't vote Democrat anymore because of wedge social issues, not because they agree with the economic platform. Imagine if the Catholic Church got over their abortion/birth control hangups. They're still among the largest proponents for aiding the poor, and it would be a massive boon for leftists if they got on board.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 5, 2012 22:11
|
|
|
Hieronymous Alloy posted:
The Kaaba's not "exclusively" an Islamic symbol either, under those designations.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 29, 2012 16:07
|
|
|
Walter posted:I must have been lucky. My parents both have advanced degrees, working in a field that paid enough to keep us comfortable (although in retrospect there were probably many discussions about coming up short that I was not privy to as a child). Regardless of that, my folks never bitched (or even resented) taxes they paid. This was pretty much me as well. In addition, I don't really have any crazy conservative relatives; no one in my family really goes more right wing than "I pay my taxes, leave me alone please".
|
|
#
¿
Dec 8, 2012 15:45
|
|
|
Rockopolis posted:Sounds like an opportunity for General Petraus to jump into politics. Social Conservatives who also oppose NAFTA, basically. There's actually a theoretical chance for a lot of pro-union sentiment, actually, although that's doubtful given the probable founders of a nationalist party.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 6, 2013 22:39
|
|
|
Kiwi Bigtree posted:What is it with all these old metalheads going hard right in old age? I mean, I do not expect them to be socialists or anything, but its weird to see a bunch of former counter-culture jeans, titties, leather, and satan types all saying "I vote for the old white guys in suits now." Most of the "counterculture generation" were about as traditional as you can be.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 10, 2013 18:34
|
|
|
Warchicken posted:Sorry I ruined a christmas story guys Surprisingly I'd never heard of this film before the last year or two (although it was after my time; Home Alone was more my Christmas movie forte).
|
|
#
¿
Jan 13, 2013 05:13
|
|
|
Jerry Manderbilt posted:It's amazing, really, how otherwise sane and rational people simultaneously believe that the evil NOBONGOMER is an evil mastermind dragging the USA down the path of socialism and yet, a bumbling incompetent overwhelmed by his job. It's much more likely that one group believes one viewpoint, another believes the other, and the media/politicians pander to both groups.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 4, 2013 23:36
|
|
|
BiggerBoat posted:
No, because like any other conspiracy theory it requires people to be extremely well organized, and in this particular case to look for the long haul rather than the short term. Put another way, the people who spouted the "women have natural defenses from rape" line were mostly voted out in 2012. Your theory requires that they support the good of the party so much that they'll sacrifice themselves to push people farther right. Which is not something a politician does, they're out for themselves.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 5, 2013 21:48
|
|
|
ReindeerF posted:Classism ITT. It's not classism if the people are actually evil (see: Roma).
|
|
#
¿
Mar 9, 2013 18:12
|
|
|
King Dopplepopolos posted:No, bigotry against the Roma is still evil. That's the joke.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 9, 2013 20:36
|
|
|
A DENVER FAX posted:I think thats why conservative white trash people love Football and NASCAR as opposed to Soccer or Basketball. You gotta be in pretty fantastic shape for those sports. A guy like Rush Limbaugh could look at a Vince Wilfork or Tony Stewart and say "I could be that guy." You have to be in pretty decent shape for any football position worth a drat (ie, "not being a literal wall of meat"). It's probably more of a nostalgia thing in that respect.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 21, 2013 21:05
|
|
|
Install Gentoo posted:Having to wear a seatbelt in a car or a helmet on a motorcycle = ANTI TRAVEL FREEDOM. You joke, but...
|
|
#
¿
Apr 3, 2013 15:16
|
|
|
Barudak posted:That looks like the Win8 tileset on the one to left so now I'm more confused. it is.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 8, 2013 15:48
|
|
|
etalian posted:Yeah the US was a strategic backwater compared to all the trouble Napoleon was causing in Europe which is probably the main reason why the US didn't get crushed. I imagine 1812 would have ended up like the Opium wars had Britain actually had nothing else on their plate at the time.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 25, 2013 01:22
|
|
|
Business Gorillas posted:What exactly happened with that, anyways? I first started driving in ~2004 and I remember gas around $2/gallon. All that I really remember is once Katrina hit everyone lost their marbles and the price of gasoline skyrocketed. Why is it that the price of gas in some places has almost doubled in ~8 years? A bunch of cars in Asia got made and we sucked up all of the easy to find oil. Fracking for example only exists as a viable alternative because the cost of oil is so high.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 7, 2013 20:05
|
|
|
Popular Thug Drink posted:Only recently has automation come to replace jobs entirely, rather than enhance production. I guess that depends on which job you're looking at ("horse handler doesn't count as a job!").
|
|
#
¿
Nov 7, 2013 22:00
|
|
|
Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:I think the checklist for "symptoms" of being a Fascist is that your enemy is both incredibly powerful & conniving as well as weak & stupid. It's on the checklist for "are you a marginalized group y/n" in general.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 8, 2013 17:38
|
|
|
pentyne posted:On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? I keep remembering some right wing blogger who when writing a rant against something or other mocked Millenials for worrying about the government spying on their "awkward boudoir fumblings" as if previous generations had some refined sophisticated method of sexing each other. They're young. That's about it.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 14, 2013 11:59
|
|
|
Listerine posted:Honestly, I may be completely wrong, I heard this many years ago which has been reinforced by watching a lot of my commercial books yellow and become more brittle, over a period of 20 years. Extrapolating to another 60 or 80 years it made sense. If I'm wrong I'll readily admit it, but looking at some books that I know firsthand weren't preserved in absolutely favorable conditions and comparing to the decay I've seen in my own collection, it made sense. Remember that many of the ancient texts we have were literally found in caves in the desert so they probably had a more forgiving atmosphere than where you live.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2013 14:39
|
|
|
robotsinmyhead posted:
From what I've seen of Shultz he does this as well just with "Angry backlash to angry white backlash". Like, I distinctly remember a part where he said "[GOP Politician] said that all welfare users take drugs!" and then he played a clip where the guy clearly stated that he didn't think all or even a majority of welfare users took drugs. It's not the same intensity but it is the same direction.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 6, 2013 15:36
|
|
|
AsInHowe posted:They've tried that before, it works out much like the Tea Party - lot of organizations popping up to become the one organization, and massive infighting results in none of them being successful. Or in short, partisans are as partisans will be.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 10, 2013 01:19
|
|
|
ReindeerF posted:And liberals, who love being aggrieved, will go on to flee that name too instead of simply saying, "Yeah, I am a loving liberal. Got a problem?" The whole left needs to take a lesson from the gay activists who said, "Queer? We're taking that motherfucker back." The slutwalk stuff was the last thing I can think of along these lines. Although having a name which is criticized on both the right and left and whose definition literally means "excessive" might be damaging.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 13, 2013 16:43
|
|
|
Atlas Hugged posted:In other words it's another example of my high school history teachers having no loving clue what they were talking about. Not really, because usually the most common way you have citizenship by birth is by being born in the US.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 14, 2013 07:06
|
|
|
GoutPatrol posted:IIRC, Subway has the cheapest franchisee fees for a nation-wide chain. Its much easier to get the loan to start one than say, a McDonalds or Burger King, where you need to already be a millionaire to start one. Yep, it costs like $50k for a Subway franchise versus ~$1 million for a McDonald's license.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 29, 2013 03:36
|
|
|
Iron Crowned posted:In the good zombie movies, the zombies are pretty much just a looming threat, and the real danger are the people you're with. That is literally what TWD is about. You could take 90% of its stories and transplant them into the Wild West in the 1880s and not much would be lost.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 6, 2014 18:02
|
|
|
Fulchrum posted:You're seriously dismissing black people dying first in horror movies as not happening? As we all know stereotypes are true. (You also said Zombie movie instead of horror movie)
|
|
#
¿
Jan 6, 2014 21:48
|
|
|
VitalSigns posted:Yes but companies can count on young people not knowing their rights or being too poor or desperate to pose a credible threat of legal action. For my school (as an engineer) we don't have a required internship but we have a 'capstone' project where a company will send us a problem and we spend the entire semester making the solution. So basically the company gets small teams of essentially fresh out of school engineers working on their stuff for the price of maybe one or two salaries worth.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 4, 2014 23:02
|
|
|
BiggerBoat posted:
That's why I usually just tune in for one hour. If it's reasonably important and not new, they'll cover it within that hour.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 7, 2014 14:08
|
|
|
mdemone posted:Isn't Rio hosting the World Cup that year too? What a clusterfuck that's gonna be. They do that this year.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 8, 2014 00:21
|
|
|
So do Hollywood executives just have a better sense of humor about portraying CEOs as dickbags or do they just not care as long as it earns them money?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 8, 2014 20:25
|
|
|
FlamingLiberal posted:Now I really want to hear that Romney speech about the trees having the right height in Bane's voice. There's probably a modulizer that exists for it, I know one exists for the Dalek voice.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 10, 2014 16:49
|
|
|
Notorious QIG posted:Why the gently caress is the Wall Street Journal opining about the nature of sexual assault on college campuses? A significant percentage of their readers did things of that nature.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 11, 2014 18:31
|
|
|
ayn rand hand job posted:He's a cheapass owner who bribed the W administration to cut down trees so his house could see water. And he also dressed up Native American WW2 vets in redskins gear.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 12, 2014 16:13
|
|
|
Orange Devil posted:I always have to laugh when the corruption index comes out because it's basically neo-colonial in its presentation. You see, you dirty African, Asian and Latin American countries have bribery, while we enlightened Westerners have lobbying! Nope, no corruption here! I too do not believe that citizens should petition their legislatures.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 13, 2014 04:45
|
|
|
agarjogger posted:I know hundreds of citizens, and not one of them has ever petitioned their Congress to any effect, or ever at all. I know some corporations and all of them have, to modest or great effect. From a regulation standpoint lobbying is functionally identical to writing a letter to your congressman. In the case of some organizations, that's literally what you're doing.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 13, 2014 04:55
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 29, 2024 17:02 |
|
|
Good Citizen posted:If that letter contained a novelty oversized check for the congressman's reelection campaign and gift certificates for free dinners and golf and also a threat to finance other candidates against them if they don't vote a certain way then yeah, they're pretty much the exact same thing And like I said, there's no effective way to limit that without getting rid of citizen influence all together. If you think there is, then spell out a regulation.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 13, 2014 05:13
|
|