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Extra Smooth Balls
Apr 13, 2005



dog days are over posted:

If it didn't set back feminism, I'd be all for banning men from contact with children forever.

because there are no female pedos, right?

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Ddraig
Sep 5, 2005

Sits with a full house

This entire situation reminds me of a crappy program I watched a while ago that happened to include a scene of Jimmy Savile that now seems a lot more sinister in retrospect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HiSj9O9D9I

Contains some NWS stuff before then.

Around about the 3:06 mark.

Shonagon
Mar 27, 2005

It is impervious to reason or pleading, it knows no mercy or patience.

dog days are over posted:

If it didn't set back feminism, I'd be all for banning men from contact with children forever.

However, since that would be a horrible slur on the millions of decent men out there, you could instead be in favour of putting an end to surprise sex culture/patriarchy, which allows people in authority to get away with horrible poo poo, witnesses to be too scared to report them, and victims to be automatically disbelieved and ignored.

Jimmy Savile wasn't enabled to be a monster because he had a penis or a Y chromosome. He got away with it because he was a powerful individual inside an institution which resisted his discrediting, even though probably 95% of the members of that institution were personally against the systematic surprise sex of children.

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Already I prophesied to my countrymen all their disasters. Ever since that fault I could persuade no one of aught.


Ddraig posted:

This entire situation reminds me of a crappy program I watched a while ago that happened to include a scene of Jimmy Savile that now seems a lot more sinister in retrospect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HiSj9O9D9I

Contains some NWS stuff before then.

Around about the 3:06 mark.

Creepy as all hell. Possibly even weirder was watching after that and seeing Leonard Nimoy singing about Bilbo Baggins.

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

Jim'll Break It For You (your hymen).

I was watching something about this on BBC News 24 the other day and two people were discussing it in front of a really inappropriate GIGANTIC picture of the man with a creepy smile and hands outstretched. It was like they'd purposely chosen the most comedy villain-like photo of him they could find.

WastedJoker
Oct 29, 2011

Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shoulders... burning with the fires of Orc.


Extra Smooth Balls posted:

because there are no female pedos, right?

Sadly when some young schoolkid gets nonced by a fit female teacher most of our responses are:



(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car


dog days are over posted:

If it didn't set back feminism, I'd be all for banning men from contact with children forever.

Think about what you are saying and realise how profoundly reactionary and idiotic it is.

Extra Smooth Balls
Apr 13, 2005



WastedJoker posted:

Sadly when some young schoolkid gets nonced by a fit female teacher most of our responses are:



I was thinking more about that female nursery worker who was taking naked photos of toddlers and sending them to dudes online.

tezcat
Jan 1, 2005


dog days are over posted:

If it didn't set back feminism, I'd be all for banning men from contact with children forever.
Make this identical post in the Feminism & Gender Equality thread. Let us know how that turns out.

Flying Fortress
Oct 23, 2008



Hey, does anyone have a link to that "When Louis met Savile" vid people keep mentioning? I can only find a 2 minute excerpt on the youtubes.

Ninpo
Aug 6, 2004

My best moment? I have a lot of good moments but the one I prefer is when I kicked the hooligan. I didn't punch him strong enough. I should have punched him harder.

I made the mistake of watching ITV's Exposure documentary on him (it's on youtube).

Prepare to have your afternoon ruined if you watch it.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


Flying Fortress posted:

Hey, does anyone have a link to that "When Louis met Savile" vid people keep mentioning? I can only find a 2 minute excerpt on the youtubes.
That's not in the public domain or anything so you can find it, but I doubt it's cool to link to it here. I don't think it's on iplayer either, annoyingly.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.


When he died, there was a sort of 'lying in state' at the Queens Hotel for him in Leeds. People literally queued around the block to pay their respects. I'm too young to have really had any impression of the guy at all, that was pretty strange though.

big scary monsters fucked around with this message at Oct 26, 2012 around 20:19

landofcake
May 7, 2009

CANNONBALL TAFFY O' JONES!!!

I've particularly enjoyed seeing which pictures of Jimmy Savile the tabloid press have picked out to go with their stories.

I was having a gander at The Express in a caff the other day, and they'd used this gem:

WastedJoker
Oct 29, 2011

Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shoulders... burning with the fires of Orc.


PT6A
Jan 5, 2006
GET FUCKED


Isn't it slightly unusual for someone known from a kid's show to be seen with a cigar all the time? Not that I'm against it, but it seems like something that wouldn't fly in today's ultra-anti-tobacco society. Showing people smoking cigarettes in a movie practically qualifies it for an R rating nowadays.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


PT6A posted:

Isn't it slightly unusual for someone known from a kid's show to be seen with a cigar all the time? Not that I'm against it, but it seems like something that wouldn't fly in today's ultra-anti-tobacco society. Showing people smoking cigarettes in a movie practically qualifies it for an R rating nowadays.
It was the 70s - smoking was practically mandatory.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011



PT6A posted:

Isn't it slightly unusual for someone known from a kid's show to be seen with a cigar all the time? Not that I'm against it, but it seems like something that wouldn't fly in today's ultra-anti-tobacco society. Showing people smoking cigarettes in a movie practically qualifies it for an R rating nowadays.

It was his thing though, he always, ALWAYS had a cigar hanging out of his mouth, even in the cartoon intro to Jim'll fix it he had one.

Salaminizer
Mar 2, 2009

im not gonna lose a good member because of some gay rabbit and his gay fucking duck friend

dog days are over posted:

If it didn't set back feminism, I'd be all for banning men from contact with children forever.

This sentiment is all kinds of nasty and hosed up. Not only is it the case that women are more than capable of sexually abusing children, but poo poo like this is the reason a lot of men can't work in any field relating to children without being seen as a predator. I'm assuming (or at least really hoping) that this comment isn't serious, but if it is then please take a moment to re-examine your terrible beliefs.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


We live in a world now where man + child = peado. This includes fathers and their children, teachers and their students, doctors and their patients. Those things that have happened since the dawn of recorded history are now wrong and inherently evil.

"Don't leave that man alone with his daughter, he might try and surprise sex her!"

This is what we've become. I bet there are men out there who are actively scared their next child will be a girl in case society thinks he wants to have sex with her.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



dog days are over posted:

If it didn't set back feminism, I'd be all for banning men from contact with children forever.

This might actually be the dumbest thing ever posted in GBS.

dog days are over
Feb 11, 2008

Under da sea
Under da sea
Gankin' is betta
Down where it's wetta
Take it from me~


It's not serious, loving hell. It's an extremely hyperbolic reaction to a terrifying and disgusting situation, taking into account the high ratio of male to female paedophiles.

But no, go ahead and assume that I am literally asking that men never be allowed in contact with children. Because that's the real issue here.

Also let's not turn a thread about the systematic and wide-spread abuse of children into a thread about how I made some guys sad with a mean comment they didn't like

dog days are over fucked around with this message at Oct 26, 2012 around 15:02

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



dog days are over posted:

But no, go ahead and assume that I am literally asking that men never be allowed in contact with children.

This is the internet, and people make similarly stupid statements and mean it all the time. Apologies for not getting it, but Poe's Law and all that.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


dog days are over posted:

It's not serious, loving hell. It's an extremely hyperbolic reaction to a terrifying and disgusting situation, taking into account the high ratio of male to female paedophiles.

But no, go ahead and assume that I am literally asking that men never be allowed in contact with children. Because that's the real issue here.

Also let's not turn a thread about the systematic and wide-spread abuse of children into a thread about how I made some guys sad with a mean comment they didn't like
Yeah, why should we assume you meant what you said. See, we're the dumb ones, and in no way was your statement the dumb thing.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air.

dog days are over posted:

It's not serious, loving hell. It's an extremely hyperbolic reaction to a terrifying and disgusting situation, taking into account the high ratio of male to female paedophiles.

Also let's not turn a thread about the systematic and wide-spread abuse of children into a thread about how I made some guys sad with a mean comment they didn't like

Quote like this are why guys can't sit next to children on planes or help lost kids in shopping centres.

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.


concerned mom posted:

I always heard he lost that finger to a squirrel?

No, it was lost in a beaver

tezcat
Jan 1, 2005


dog days are over posted:

Because that's the real issue here.
What was the point of saying what you said unless it was an attempt to derail.

Do you hate kids so much that you have to derail a thread about child abuse with your gender hangups?

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


dog days are over posted:

I made some guys sad with a mean comment they didn't like
You made an abominable comment that was offensive on many levels. You can't hand-wave it away and blame people for taking you at face value.

jazzyhattrick
Jul 1, 2010


dog days are over posted:

It's not serious, loving hell. It's an extremely hyperbolic reaction to a terrifying and disgusting situation, taking into account the high ratio of male to female paedophiles.

But no, go ahead and assume that I am literally asking that men never be allowed in contact with children. Because that's the real issue here.

Also let's not turn a thread about the systematic and wide-spread abuse of children into a thread about how I made some guys sad with a mean comment they didn't like

Who's sad? You said something loving stupid and everybody called you on your bullshit.

But way to advocate profiling I guess, have you ever thought of a career in airport security?

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


His next post is going to be something along the lines of "dance puppets, dance".

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

tighten up tone down tuen thuen

dog days are over posted:

It's not serious, loving hell. It's an extremely hyperbolic reaction to a terrifying and disgusting situation, taking into account the high ratio of male to female paedophiles.

But no, go ahead and assume that I am literally asking that men never be allowed in contact with children. Because that's the real issue here.

Also let's not turn a thread about the systematic and wide-spread abuse of children into a thread about how I made some guys sad with a mean comment they didn't like

Worst poster in GBS.

Mind Loving Owl
Sep 5, 2012

The regeneration is failing! Hooooo...

Georgia Bronte, commenting through Facebook on Vice article posted:

instead of taking up his gravestone and removing the flowers, his family should have changed the epitaph to "Necrononce". now it's just a small hole in the ground and no bush around it- just what he would have wanted.

A good needs to be preserved.


dog days are over posted:

If it didn't set back feminism, I'd be all for banning men from contact with children forever.

People have apparently paid ten dollars twice to tell me I poo poo post, and you've somehow managed to out stupid me! You know thousands of cases of woman on child molestation don't get reported every year because of sentiments like that.

And way to give those idiots who go on about "man hating feminazis" more fuel. gently caress everyone up why don't you.

Salaminizer
Mar 2, 2009

im not gonna lose a good member because of some gay rabbit and his gay fucking duck friend

dog days are over posted:

It's not serious, loving hell. It's an extremely hyperbolic reaction to a terrifying and disgusting situation, taking into account the high ratio of male to female paedophiles.

But no, go ahead and assume that I am literally asking that men never be allowed in contact with children. Because that's the real issue here.

Also let's not turn a thread about the systematic and wide-spread abuse of children into a thread about how I made some guys sad with a mean comment they didn't like

There have been lots of people doing just that, actually! And there isn't too much to be said that hasn't already been covered (he looks creepy, how people in authority can get away with child abuse, molesting kids is bad etc.) It just so happened that not only was your comment stupid, it brought up something new and relevant to the issue because it illustrates exactly the kind of overreaction we need to be careful about in issues like this. That's not even discussing attitudes like that being used to enforce gender roles.

But by all means, keep acting like a big stupid baby because you got called out on saying a big stupid baby thing.

Salaminizer fucked around with this message at Oct 26, 2012 around 15:52

fluffyplague
Jan 30, 2005
get down with the sickness

DrVenkman posted:

Odd one or two? There's a lot of cases that were brought to the papers before they were even reported to the police. An abused doesn't think "Oh how much cash can I make from this". And apparently there's a lot of these victims that are going to sue both the BBC and the NHS.

Also, we still don't know the actual nature of the complaints made against him yet. Just a vague idea of how many there are. As far as I'm aware they can run the gamut of "He abused me" to "Well I think he touched me on my backside one time".

My point isn't that all these people are lying and that Saville is innocent, it's that there are absolutely people who are faking it, or have looked back some thirty years and thought "Oh hey, he put his arm around me once - maybe I need to tell the police too". I'm not in any way shape or form saying that Saville is totally innocent, I suppose I just find it hard to believe that countless acts of abuse can go on for that long and the perpetrator not get caught. I said in my last post I'm sure that he is guilty, I just can't see it being to the extent that it's reported as. But perhaps that's my cynical view of people. But when you got poo poo like this http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/los...vile-pervy-look it's hard not to be cynical.

I just think that these people hamper the legitimate investigation that's taking place. So when there's poo poo in the paper like "Saville liked to gently caress corpses" and the ilk, it helps no one.

And as for the guy who thought I was excusing his behavior because it was the 70's? That's not what I was saying at all.

People like you are why I never told anyone what happened to me. I hope you understand that.

cactuscarpet
Sep 12, 2011

I don't even know what rasta means.


All I can think of when I read the thread title is where the hell did he get the time to get any work done?

Ema Nymton
Apr 26, 2008

GUIL-TY!


cactuscarpet posted:

All I can think of when I read the thread title is where the hell did he get the time to get any work done?
He was mixing work and pleasure

Ktb
Feb 24, 2006


Not to mention that the reason more men appear to be predatory paedophiles in this manner is probably linked with the fact that men have historically been much more likely to be in positions of power than women. It's hard enough for victims to come forward about abuse committed by someone noone has heard of, let alone a household name.

Also to the arseholes who think the number of victims isn't plausible, it wasn't 300 kids at once. It was 300 vulnerable individual kids who each thought they were all alone in this and that nobody would believe them. Saying poo poo like "they're just in it for the money" only serves to reinforce that feeling in kids who are still suffering abuse now.

Ddraig
Sep 5, 2005

Sits with a full house

The really terrible thing about all of this is that it was sort of seen as an open secret that there was something going on there. I mean, there's videos of him leching over teenage girls and even being overly touchy with them (there was one, rather infamous one, where he was pretty much openly groping Coleen Nolan on Top of the Pops)

It makes me wonder how many of these supposed rumors that couldn't really be proved for whatever reason are actually true.

e: To clarify, the supposed rumours about other celebrities. A lot of urban legends are thrown around about these sorts of people all the time, I'm wondering if there's a case that some of them might actually be true.

Ddraig fucked around with this message at Oct 26, 2012 around 16:16

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.


I really hope Cheggers isn't mixed up in all this kiddie fiddling.

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FirstPersonShitter
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


I'm from the UK and I don't know anyone who ever liked Jimmy Saville. I don't know if its just the older generation that liked him, but he always came off reaaally creepy to me. Like father christmas' pedophile brother.

Apparently there were rumours about him for decades and nobody did anything about it. There was even that fake transcript of an episode of Have I Got News For You? where everyone ripped into him for being a pedophile.

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