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Senf posted:Do you think the Angels will offer Trout a long-term deal over the off-season, too? It might be kind of smart if he can keep this kind of production up, yeah? I would not at all mind a McCutchen/Longo type deal (if those are the comparison you can make) but don't know too much about that stuff honestly.  The Angels shouldn't have a problem keeping Trout his entire career given the amount of money they have to work with either way.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:well not 1-for-1, but Hultzen/Nick Franklin for Craig and a much lesser prospect could be a good trade foundation. Gives the Cards a Shortstop Of The FutureTM I can't imagine anyone giving the Mariners more than minor reclamation project value for Hultzen until he proves he's not badly broken.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:23 |
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Good Dog posted:I would not at all mind a McCutchen/Longo type deal (if those are the comparison you can make) but don't know too much about that stuff honestly. I don't think we'll ever see a contract like Longoria's again due to how team-friendly it is/was, but I could maybe see a McCutchen-like contract being offered. I think it might be a little more realistic to expect something between what McCutchen and CarGo got, maybe even leaning a bit toward CarGo's deal. But the Angels are made of money so whatever  edit: totally forgot about the Moore contract. I guess the Tampa Bay front office is still full of wizardry Senf fucked around with this message at Oct 29, 2012 around 21:32 |
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Can't the Giants just back-load the hell out of some contracts since Zito and Lincecum only have one guaranteed year left? I'm not arguing Lincecum is done, just that he might only be on the Giants with that size salary for one more year.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:28 |
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Senf posted:I don't think we'll ever see a contract like Longoria's again due to how team-friendly it is/was The Rays signed another one last offseason with Matt Moore.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:30 |
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ManifunkDestiny posted:I'd rather they do Free Agency Via Trade and try to get someone to buy Hultzen before he goes Full Blass. Mauer I honestly think it would take something along the lines of King Felix + something else to get Mauer out of MN, and that's if he was willing to waive his NTC. It's not happening. Thankfully. The Twins absolutely need to get some decent to good starting pitching this offseason. I assume that the Greinke level pitchers will be going to somewhere like Boston that will line a dump truck of cash outside their homes, but if they can get in on a second tier pitcher or two (plus signing baker to an incentive laden contract) I'd be really happy. God drat do the Twins ever need pitching.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:31 |
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Apparently the Angels are trying to trade Dan Haren/Ervin Santana because they don't want to pick up their options.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:32 |
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Dan Haren loving rules and if the Angels can't get Greinke because of a literal mountain of cash dumped on him by the Sox I would love them to sign Haren to deal that included his option for 3 years or something like that. Both Santana and Haren had the worst years of their careers, but I don't think there is any reason to think that Haren won't bounce back by resting his back. Santana is loving broken though.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:38 |
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leokitty posted:[Swisher] going to the Phillies after RAJ fails to sign Bourn for too much I am so ready to loving go insane when this happens. Amaro Off-season Drastic Overpaying Fun Times will be the death of me.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:50 |
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Come back to Oakland, Dan 
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 21:56 |
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The last thing the A's need to do is a sign a starter. They can trade for Yunel Escobar though, that'd be cool.
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In case anyone was wondering, the Pirates' offseason needs are: C - Rod Barajas was an okay gamble, but he didn't pay off. He shouldn't have been starting over McKenry down the stretch last year, and he shouldn't make $3.5M to be a backup this year. McKenry will stay, but he's unproven and unlikely to be better than mediocre. SS - Clint Barmes may have been the best defensive SS in the NL last year, but his OPS was under .600 and I hate his loving guts. Since my happiness is paramount, the Pirates should replace him with Stephen Drew. SP - Goodbye Kevin Correia! The Pirates rotation is pretty shaky for 2013. We can currently project A.J. Burnett, James McDonald, Wandy Rodriguez (who I still can't believe is a Pirates), and Jeff Karstens for the Opening Day rotation, but all four have question marks: Burnett and Rodriguez are old, McDonald is inconsistent, and Karstens is mediocre and often injured. Charlie Morton won't be back until June-ish, and could get non-tendered. Rookies Jeff Locke and Kyle McPherson will compete for spots in Spring Training; both had encouraging numbers in brief stints last year, but neither is a sure thing. On the plus side, Gerrit Cole will likely be ready mid-season, so a pitcher with injury concerns would be okay to risk. RP - The Pirates lost their best reliever, Jason Grilli, to free agency along with Juan Cruz. Joel Hanrahan will likely be overpaid in his third arb year, and hopefully will finally be traded; if not, he could be a non-tender candidate. NH will probably continue to do a good job of cobbling a bullpen together out of cheap pieces. Of course, it remains to be seen whether any free agent of note would actually deign to sign in Pittsburgh. Most likely we will continue our general pattern of picking up scraps and watching them implode hilariously. But at least it's nice that we actually have most positions filled by non-shameful players now!
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Senf posted:Come back to Oakland, Dan The ever elusive and mysterious 7 man rotation.
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MassaShowtime posted:The last thing the A's need to do is a sign a starter. No thanks gently caress that guy and oh come on, he belongs here! Also McCarthy will no doubt break at least 3 times so it'd be nice. Haren Parker McCarthy Anderson Milone  edit: nope sorry Straily can go to AAA until half that rotation breaks around mid-april 
Senf fucked around with this message at Oct 29, 2012 around 22:08 |
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Ah I see you left off Brett Anderson. He would be acceptable for Mr. Escobar.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 22:03 |
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The A's have so much pitching depth, it's insane.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 22:14 |
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leokitty posted:The A's declining Drew's option is kind of a no-brainer as it's for $10million and there is no way he gets that on the open market. Even if they sign him to something marginally big like 3/$24 that is a better deal for them. I always thought the Pennington trade was a sign they were going to pick up Drew's option since 1yr/$10m is kind of a low risk move. I guess you're right though. They really should sign Drew, he'll get better as he recovers from catastrophic vomit-inducing leg-doesn't-go-that-way injury.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 22:16 |
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Seriously though, I'm just loving around. Check this out: Likely Rotation: Anderson McCarthy (dude is coming back come on) Parker Milone Straily Reserves (best to poo poo): Griffin Blackley Peacock Godfrey Gray (not ready) Cole (really not ready) Ross (will never be ready) That's a mighty solid rotation that is no doubt due to regress a little bit in 2013, but the future looks bright: the oldest guy on that staff would be McCarthy (29) and everybody else is between 23-25 with multiple years of control left. edit:  A's Sign Mike Ekstrom
Senf fucked around with this message at Oct 29, 2012 around 22:45 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:Honestly I think the Tigers bullpen would be one of the few units that would benefit from just being left alone (aside from telling Valverde to gently caress off). Benoit/Dotel/Alburquerque/Villarreal/Rondon with some lefties like Coke or Downs or who the gently caress ever is not a bad group at all. With Joaquin and Octavio already having closing experience, there's no reason they need to bring in a high priced closer. The Tigers' bullpen is quite good without Valverde, but the odds are that Ilitch will go get a closer, because that's what Mike Ilitch does. Same with Josh Hamilton. I don't think Ichiro will come, there just isn't room on the team for him unless it's off the bench. And take a closer look at that list. Odds are, if he's alright coming off the bench, someone's coming back to Detroit!
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AsInHowe posted:And take a closer look at that list. Odds are, if he's alright coming off the bench, someone's coming back to Detroit! Gerald Laird? Yeah, I know.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 22:45 |
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I have no reason to believe they will do so, but I'd like to see Boston bring back Youkilis at 1B. He had a rough go of things at 3B, but there'd be fewer concerns about injuries at first, and I love that guy's plate discipline. With Valentine's managerial tenure down the memory hole, I figure it wouldn't take too much grovelling to get him to sign, and it's not like the market is flooded with quality 1B.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 22:54 |
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I'd love it if the White Sox traded for Dan Haren.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 23:30 |
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Polanco's option has been declined so he'll be a free agent.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2012 23:38 |
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:I'd love it if the White Sox traded for Dan Haren. Sorry, Hahn is the GM now, no more cool "out of nowhere" trades for you. VV My god man, don't even joke about that ozymandius1024 fucked around with this message at Oct 30, 2012 around 00:25 |
| # ? Oct 30, 2012 00:16 |
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AsInHowe posted:The Tigers' bullpen is quite good without Valverde, but the odds are that Ilitch will go get a closer, because that's what Mike Ilitch does. Same with Josh Hamilton. Brian Wilson, Tigers closer 2013?
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ozymandius1024 posted:Sorry, Hahn is the GM now, no more cool "out of nowhere" trades for you. Struggling to remember the last time one of those trades worked out for the White Sox.
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:Struggling to remember the last time one of those trades worked out for the White Sox.
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:Struggling to remember the last time one of those trades worked out for the White Sox. I mean, Jake Peavy worked out eventually
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 00:29 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:I mean, Jake Peavy worked out eventually They won't miss that talent, but they spent a lot of money for like 1 good season.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 00:30 |
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Does Zach Stewart and Brent Lillibridge for Kevin Youkilis count, because I'm still lollin' about that one
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 00:35 |
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Dombrowski has said that bringing Anibal Sanchez back is a priority for this offseason. What kind of deal is he likely to get? I really have no idea how to gauge the cost of starting pitching on the open market other than "expensive"
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DrGonzo90 posted:Dombrowski has said that bringing Anibal Sanchez back is a priority for this offseason. What kind of deal is he likely to get? I really have no idea how to gauge the cost of starting pitching on the open market other than "expensive" Way too loving much (for a 4th starter, even if he would be a really good one). Not sure about the years, but if Edwin Jackson can get 11 million (them being the same age), Sanchez definitely will. I wish the SS options didn't suck so much, cause that's where the money should go.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 00:44 |
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On the other hand, there are a lot of #2-4 starters in this FA class, so that might help keep prices down a little. Might. Probably won't, teams have a lot of money available these days.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 00:56 |
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zakharov posted:Next caller. How about we deal Granderson and Cano for Pagan and Scutaro? Gamers!
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 02:56 |
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Where the hell is Peavy going to go though? And Grienke?
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 02:57 |
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ZenVulgarity posted:Where the hell is Peavy going to go though? And Grienke? The Padres need pitching. Maybe he'll go back there? No idea for Greinke.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 02:58 |
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Actually theoretically the Astros would have a bunch of money to spend But they won't So I wonder what the hell they're going to do. I would think someone who think they're really close with a modicum of wiggle room might take a flyer. Maybe the Braves might be a landing spot for either of them?
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 03:01 |
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Given the Pirates hot start, do you think they'd spend for a few FA pieces? Maybe Greinke and a solid bat?
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Abel Wingnut posted:Given the Pirates hot start, do you think they'd spend for a few FA pieces? Maybe Greinke and a solid bat? There's spending money and then there is spending Greinke money. No I don't think they'll spend a quarter of their payroll on a player. Will be the usual poo poo platter of bats/bullpen arms.
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tadashi posted:Can't the Giants just back-load the hell out of some contracts since Zito and Lincecum only have one guaranteed year left? I'm not arguing Lincecum is done, just that he might only be on the Giants with that size salary for one more year. The Giants have a load of money coming off the books soon. The Huff, Rowand (yes, $12 million this year!), and Zito (2014 buyout) contracts are all up soon. Also, iirc, the Giants pay off the loan on AT&T next year ($14 mil/year). They're in a pretty good financial situation, especially given income.
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