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Phil Coke's closer now?
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 19:35 |
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tadashi posted:So the Tigers are looking for a closer? 
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 19:38 |
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Xenophon posted:Does Zach Stewart and Brent Lillibridge for Kevin Youkilis count, because I'm still lollin' about that one I wouldn't count that as "crazy" or "out of nowhere" because 3B for the White Sox was biggest possible need and the Red Sox kept going, "WE WILL SELL THIS lovely YOUKILIS HE SUCKS" to everybody. I mean, it was certainly an awesome deal.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 19:42 |
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Xenophon posted:That picture is enormous and really gross That is exactly why I chose it  I can seriously see Wilson coming to Detroit now.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 19:48 |
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I never noticed how much fat it looks like he's carrying in his forearms.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:00 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:Phil Coke's closer now? I know this is probably a joke post, but it will either be by committee, or a competition in spring training between dotel, benoit, and rondon
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:17 |
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Senf posted:Dombrowski has said that Valverde and Young won't return next year. Delmon Dogg noooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:22 |
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Rand alPaul posted:Delmon Dogg noooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO I almost hurt my hand from fist pumping in my car when I heard this news on the radio on the way home today. God damnit I'm so happy (as happy as someone can be after their team just got embarrassed on the biggest stage in baseball) Storm posted:I know this is probably a joke post, but it will either be by committee, or a competition in spring training between dotel, benoit, and rondon I would like to believe that Leyland would continue to let the situation dictate his closer usage, but we both know they're not going to go by committee next season. It'll be either Benoit or Dotel.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:50 |
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Senf posted:Dombrowski has said that Valverde and Young won't return next year. I'm already excited about 2013.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:54 |
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VJeff posted:I'm already excited about 2013. Well they also picked up Jhonny's 6 million option, so get ready for more horrible SS defense and a major lack of double plays turned. (I'm not completely opposed to bringing him back with the dearth of SS options though)
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:57 |
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Storm posted:I know this is probably a joke post, but it will either be by committee, or a competition in spring training between dotel, benoit, and rondon I wasn't joking, but now that I've seen his regular season stats I retract my statement. Man, he legitimately looked potent in the postseason. How was he so bad in the regular season?
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:58 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:I wasn't joking, but now that I've seen his regular season stats I retract my statement. Cause he's just a mediocre lefty and Jim Leyland routinely left him in to get teed off on by right handed hitters (seriously, look at the loving OPS splits) ozymandius1024 fucked around with this message at Oct 30, 2012 around 21:03 |
| # ? Oct 30, 2012 20:59 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:Well they also picked up Jhonny's 6 million option, so get ready for more horrible SS defense and a major lack of double plays turned. (I'm not completely opposed to bringing him back with the dearth of SS options though) There really wasn't any other option at SS, was there? Our infield was still gonna have all the range of a turtle on pot, but at least we'll probably have a bullpen that can do its job without giving us a heart attack and a DH who can. You know. loving H. EDIT: Maybe Phil Coke and Al Alburquerque split closing duties? VJeff fucked around with this message at Oct 30, 2012 around 21:02 |
| # ? Oct 30, 2012 21:00 |
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Peralta was probably the best of the potential FAs at short this season, so it was clearly a good idea to keep him for relatively cheap. A good way to help his defense would be to have a competent 3B, but welp.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 21:25 |
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Mornacale posted:Peralta was probably the best of the potential FAs at short this season, so it was clearly a good idea to keep him for relatively cheap. A good way to help his defense would be to have a competent 3B, but welp. It's kinda funny hearing some Tigers fans assume that this year was a down year for him offensively, and that he'll just bounce back next season. He's had an OPS+ under league average for 4 of his 8 full MLB seasons. Luckily he doesn't need to hit that well, since he plays excellent defense 
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 21:34 |
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I like Peralta cause he's one of those dudes who either hits well above or well below his career average while never actually having a "normal" season.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 21:36 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:It's kinda funny hearing some Tigers fans assume that this year was a down year for him offensively, and that he'll just bounce back next season. His line is kind of weird, but I think it's safe to put the expectation of his OPS+ above 85. I think his median outcome is "above-average offensive SS," which is worth $6M.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 21:41 |
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Mornacale posted:His line is kind of weird, but I think it's safe to put the expectation of his OPS+ above 85. I think his median outcome is "above-average offensive SS," which is worth $6M. Yeah, like I said, I don't have a problem with them picking up the option with the lack of other decent players available at SS. Detroit will still have issues giving outs away on the defense, but at least the offense should be improved overall.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 21:45 |
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Senf posted:That is exactly why I chose it Giants are in a weird spot with Brian Wilson. He's coming off his 2nd Tommy John surgery, and even before the injury, his velocity was trending way down:  His cutter is good but not like, Mariano good, and I don't think he can blow his fastball by people anymore. So I'd really rather not offer him arb if he's going to make $10 million. (Would he get less after missing a whole season?) We should nontender him and try to work out a cheap contract; I doubt anyone else is waiting to shower him with cash. But that might not go over well with the fans. See, Wilson was our biggest cheerleader, even our mascot, in the playoff run. I don't care about that, but I think the organization does. I think he'll be a Giant next year. The Pussy Boss fucked around with this message at Oct 30, 2012 around 23:13 |
| # ? Oct 30, 2012 21:54 |
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I guess you can scratch off Jake Peavy, Xeno. Signs with White Sox for 2/$29MM
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:05 |
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Shockingly, the Mets exercise Wright's and Dickey's options.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:10 |
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That is a good deal for Peavy since they were already paying him 4 million this season.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:11 |
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JediGandalf posted:I guess you can scratch off Jake Peavy, Xeno. Wow, I expected him to test free agency. Nice first move for Hahn.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:13 |
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The White Sox also exercised their option on Floyd (not-surprising) and declined theirs on Myers and Youk. I would not be surprised if they go after Youk for less money, while I think they might let Myers go. There's also a performance threshold on the Peavy deal that lets him stay for $15 million in 2015 if he meets goals in 2013-14.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:13 |
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Ah, well, 14M would've priced him out of the Bucs' range anyhow. Here's to hanging our hopes on Francisco Liriano and winding up with someone in the tier below!
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:15 |
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I really like the Peavy move - there was no way that his option was going to get exercised, so I like that they seem to have worked out a compromise. The Floyd move was a no-brainer.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:15 |
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Apparently the $4 million buyout will be paid out over 2016-2019.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:16 |
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White Sox spent too much.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:17 |
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:Apparently the $4 million buyout will be paid out over 2016-2019. That's OK with me for now since the division is still pretty awful, but I'm curious to see what else they'll do this offseason. With a little more luck last year Peavy would have been regarded as one of the better pitchers in the AL last year.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:19 |
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You all don't think that's too much? He is good, don't get me wrong, but the injury concerns would be the nagging voice in my head. What was his option again?
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:21 |
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The option was $22 million. For one year.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:23 |
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The Prisoner posted:The option was $22 million. For one year.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:24 |
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JediGandalf posted:You all don't think that's too much? He is good, don't get me wrong, but the injury concerns would be the nagging voice in my head. What was his option again? The option was $22MM, way too much. He had 219 IP last year, with a 3.37 ERA, 1.096 WHIP, and 129 ERA+. At $14.5MM/year, I'd take that gamble. If he gets hurt again, well, we've been paying through the nose for an injured Jake Peavy since 2009, so it'd probably just feel comforting and warm like an old blanket.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:26 |
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The deal's only two years unless he stays healthy and pitches well, in which case it's three. People have been talking about how Kyle Lohse - who is older and shittier than Peavy, and also brittle - is going to get like 5 years $60 million so uh....awesome.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:28 |
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I didn't think he be able to command quite that much cash, but it's not a bad deal at all. Also: totally agree with you Pussy Boss (never thought I'd type that out but here we are). Giants seem to dig their cheerleaders a bit and I can see a few post-2010-like contracts thrown around this off-season. Like Scutaro getting a 3/24 or something
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:31 |
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The White Sox rotation is going to be extremely interesting and probably the biggest wild card rotation in baseball next year (except for maybe the Mets'). I have no idea what's going to happen with Danks, Floyd or Peavy, and while Sale seems like he's going to be OK he did slow down a little bit toward the end of the season. Things could really go down the toilet and the rotation could be a tire fire, or it could be almost as good as Detroit's. As always, I guess the hope is that Don Cooper knows more about pitching than almost anyone else in the league. e: Regarding the Giants, I'm fine with Scutaro getting a three year deal. Not much going on at that position in their system so even if he regresses to his mean there wouldn't be too many other options out there.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:32 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:I almost hurt my hand from fist pumping in my car when I heard this news on the radio on the way home today. I like to remember the good times. His dingers against the Yankees. His homophobic outbursts. His terrible fielding. His inability to draw a walk. Delmon
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:34 |
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Kyle Lohse is a pumpkin waiting to happen and I can't wait to see the team who overpays for him.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:38 |
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Harlock posted:Kyle Lohse is a pumpkin waiting to happen and I can't wait to see the team who overpays for him. And now it won't be the White Sox because their rotation is set for next year.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:54 |
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| # ? May 24, 2013 12:17 |
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So hey correct me if I'm wrong. Is this the first time Dotel has stayed with the same team for a second consecutive year?
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 22:55 |
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