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VJeff posted:So hey correct me if I'm wrong. Is this the first time Dotel has stayed with the same team for a second consecutive year? He played for Houston like 4 years
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He also spent two years with the White Sox, and was signed for two with the A's but only got 15 games in for the second year thanks to TJS.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:02 |
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Senf posted:I didn't think he be able to command [i]quite[.i] that much cash, but it's not a bad deal at all. Peavy would have gotten at least a guaranteed third year somewhere else and more money. I would definitely say he gave the Sox a discount. A good start for Hahn.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:04 |
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Keith Law thinks it's a great deal and I'm inclined to agree. There are rumblings on White Sox boards that this was done partially to make moving Floyd easier, but I honestly don't see why they would move Floyd at something of a nadir for his value.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:10 |
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^ beat me to it but man, he's had a 14 year career. Holy poo poo. edit: quoted typos suck  and vvvv better brace yoursef then
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:10 |
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giving Scutaro anything over 15 million dollars seems like insanity to me.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:12 |
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Harlock posted:Kyle Lohse is a pumpkin waiting to happen and I can't wait to see the team who overpays for him. Royals
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Groucho Marxist posted:Royals I will destroy you
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:32 |
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Senf posted:Also: totally agree with you Pussy Boss (never thought I'd type that out but here we are). Giants seem to dig their cheerleaders a bit and I can see a few post-2010-like contracts thrown around this off-season. Like Scutaro getting a 3/24 or something By a strange coincidence, Marco Scutaro turned 37 today. (Happy birthday Marco.) Yep, just about ready to enter his prime! I fully expect they will overpay Pagan, give Scutaro too many years, and pay Hunter Pence about $12 million in arbitration. And it's hard to be too critical since I'd like all three of them back next year, but I think we're gonna overpay for all of them.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:36 |
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I'm fine with three years of below-average Scutaro, since he's also proven an acceptable makeshift third baseman should Sandoval become too obese to play down the road. I don't think they'll keep Wilson, he's pricey for a reliever and anything marketing gets out of him being CRAAAAAYZZZYY (which I think is a lot less than two years ago) has been made up by the success of the panda giraffe stuff. If they do keep him, then they get rid of Affeldt, and he's more due to be overpaid even if Mijares is a well priced substitute.
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:43 |
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The problem isn't paying for 3 years of below-average Scutaro, it's that you're quite possibly paying for one year of below-average and two of
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| # ? Oct 30, 2012 23:51 |
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Mornacale posted:The problem isn't paying for 3 years of below-average Scutaro, it's that you're quite possibly paying for one year of below-average and two of The Giants fans are very familiar with this.
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Craptacular! posted:I'm fine with three years of below-average Scutaro, since he's also proven an acceptable makeshift third baseman should Sandoval become too obese to play down the road. Gonna come out now and say that if Scutaro regresses and plays how he did for the first 100 games or so of last year then you would instantly hate a 3 year deal. And the dude is going to regress. Gotta love that .385OBP with only 13 walks, though. Mornacale posted:The problem isn't paying for 3 years of below-average Scutaro, it's that you're quite possibly paying for one year of below-average and two of So pretty much Aaron Rowand but with one less year? edit: omg I forgot that he had a 5 year deal 
Senf fucked around with this message at Oct 30, 2012 around 23:56 |
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The Los Angeles Yankees have resigned Brandon League
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Crimson Sox posted:The Los Angeles Yankees have resigned Brandon League For three years lmao
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Harlock posted:Kyle Lohse is a pumpkin waiting to happen and I can't wait to see the team who overpays for him. It's going to be the Cardinals again 
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zakharov posted:For three years lmao ahahahahahahaha Enjoy that poo poo Dodgers fans
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| # ? Oct 31, 2012 00:08 |
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There's a difference between spending money and spending money wisely.
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CraigK posted:It's going to be the Cardinals again They would be totally capable of it, but I think if they were going this route they wouldn't have re-signed Westbrook.
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Maybe people will give Cashman his proper due when NedCo fucks up having an unlimited budget.
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There are people that don't consider Cashman a top 3 GM in the league?
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Abel Wingnut posted:There are people that don't consider Cashman a top 3 GM in the league? "Look at all that money he has, my grandmother could build a World Champion too if you gave her a billion dollars"
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Abel Wingnut posted:There are people that don't consider Cashman a top 3 GM in the league? Go read the comments on any article about Cashman and get back to me.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2012 00:21 |
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Reason #I've lost count why I don't read comments.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2012 00:22 |
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Senf posted:Gonna come out now and say that if Scutaro regresses and plays how he did for the first 100 games or so of last year then you would instantly hate a 3 year deal. And the dude is going to regress. It gives them a year to find a replacement 2B, and then he can be a waste of cash for all I care. The 2B market in free agents is pretty crappy this offseason, and Marco wants to play there again. 2011 and 2012 have made me skittish, I guess, because the FO hasn't proved itself to have any depth to replace anyone. They've had guys go down and not know how to handle it: Posey's injury basically doomed the season but was handled okay, but Freddy Sanchez was simply expected to return and the team looked more and more stupid as he piled on the injuries. Sandoval's absence for hamate surgery resulted in a sad parade of Quad A guys. It's not like the A's where Cespy and McCarthy and Colon can disappear all at once and it's okay because Beane had a second good hand of cards in his back pocket the whole time. That kind of depth can only be envied, even if it is pitcher heavy. And despite not playing third in four years, Scutaro prevented us from seeing more Conor Gillaspie or Manny Burriss when Sandoval got hurt again. That is okay by me since I love the fat man but wouldn't really call him reliable given his weight issues. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at Oct 31, 2012 around 00:26 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:There are people that don't consider Cashman a top 3 GM in the league? I thought about disputing this, but is there a consensus on who the top 3-5 GMs in baseball are? It's actually tough to look down the list and find guys who are even consistently good. Friedman, yes. Beane? Daniels? Is Wren actually a good GM? Walt Jocketty seems to be pretty drat consistent. Huntington seems solid, but the Pirates still suck. Mike Rizzo?
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Abel Wingnut posted:There are people that don't consider Cashman a top 3 GM in the league? Maybe now that Epstein isn't technically a GM, but I think he's clearly behind Friedman and Beane at least. I think there are a fair number of dudes who it's hard to say definitively would do worse given Cashman's huge advantages.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2012 00:34 |
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Friedman's probably my top GM. His ability to draft and sign talent is unparalleled. Cashman would probably place right behind him. He understands and exploits his position perfectly. I can only imagine how good the Yankees'd be without Hal and Hank going overhead on A-Rod and Soriano. After that it gets murky and I'd have to spend a lot more time researching to figure it out.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2012 00:39 |
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Jon Daniels is real cool so far.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2012 00:41 |
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We discussed this last off-season and I think I'd nearly dropped Beane off my top 5 list because he just seemed un-inspired. Then 2012 arrived.
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tadashi posted:We discussed this last off-season and I think I'd nearly dropped Beane off my top 5 list because he just seemed un-inspired. Then 2012 arrived. Yea, I have no idea what's up with Beane. He seemed content fleecing Arizona for a while and then this year happened. Another thing I'd have to look into more.
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The Pussy Boss posted:By a strange coincidence, Marco Scutaro turned 37 today. (Happy birthday Marco.) Yep, just about ready to enter his prime! Having not really seen Pence play before this postseason, does he always look like he's done a lot of meth and end up on one knee after every swing? Seeing him play was probably the most bizarre thing I witnessed in an offseason that featured LCS MVP Delmon Young Speaking of which, hooray. I was really concerned the Tigers would stick Delmon in LF next year. Of course, they are going to tender Brennan Boesch and have Quentin Berry 'compete' in Spring Training. Because when you have a guy with a 7 year track record of being bad at baseball, it's key to decide he should be on the team based off a couple of weeks of exhibition games against minor leaguers.
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ozymandius1024 posted:
Rizzo falls off the list for me due to his completely inept handling of Strasburg. Too early to tell I guess, but I like what Jeff Luhnow has done with the Astros thus far. Specifically, this entails "realize they're gonna suck for a while so they might as well sell vets for prospects and play kids." Plus he was on board when the Cardinals drafted players that are actually good at baseball so I'm hoping he can turn the Astros around quickly.
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League is earning more than $7.1m a year l m a o
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Trade Joel Hanrahan. I will probably not make a single future post ITT that doesn't involve the Pirates needing to trade Joel Hanrahan, because it is seriously the most important thing for them to do. e: vvv It's a dumb contract, but it's probably not going to be in the top 5 worst of the offseason. $7M just isn't enough to have a serious impact on that team.
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Alright every other gm, you have some serious stepping up to do if you want to compete with Worst Contract This Offseason
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Mornacale posted:e: vvv It's a dumb contract, but it's probably not going to be in the top 5 worst of the offseason. $7M just isn't enough to have a serious impact on that team. The three (potentially four) years is much worse than the money, really. League is basically the definition of "replacement level reliever" so woo Dodgers.
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proposal to rename Brad Penny Money to Brandon League Money
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Mornacale posted:The problem isn't paying for 3 years of below-average Scutaro, it's that you're quite possibly paying for one year of below-average and two of It's the 2012 version of Aubrey Huff's last contract. Whatever contract he gets is going to be a terrible contract, but I don't care that much, since it's probably not going to hamstring the Giants, it's not my money, and he did just play a crucial, highly-visible role in winning a World Series. This is probably how I will feel about all Giants off-season moves tbqh. That League deal looks real bad, but I guess if the Dodgers just straight-up don't care about money, what can you say about it?
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enuma elish posted:It's the 2012 version of Aubrey Huff's last contract. Whatever contract he gets is going to be a terrible contract, but I don't care that much, since it's probably not going to hamstring the Giants, it's not my money, and he did just play a crucial, highly-visible role in winning a World Series. This is probably how I will feel about all Giants off-season moves tbqh. Then don't post about them if you don't have anything to say?
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