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Lum
Aug 13, 2003



Anyone managed to get Arcsoft Total Media Theatre 3 to work on this. It keeps throwing up an error message about couldn't initialise a video overlay.

This is on a Clevo W170HR laptop, with an nVidia 555m, nVidia Optimus and an Intel HD3000. Latest Win8 supporting drivers for both graphics are installed and it makes no difference if I choose to run it on Intel or nVidia graphics.

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oTHi
Feb 28, 2011

This post is brought to you by Molten Boron.
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mediaphage posted:

The setup file will run. The upgrade advisor won't let you buy it. So run the upgrade advisor on any computer, pay the fee, then you can download the setup file from your pc. The key will be in your inbox.

I ran the Upgrade Advisor on Consumer Preview and it let me get the upgrade pricing and went straight through. I had some quirky issues after, but I think that was from a hard drive failing.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?

So I rebooted retail Win8 to install new updates, and suddenly PS3mediaserver & my PS3 can no longer communicate. Anyone have an idea? I've poked through the firewall rules but don't see an obvious difference.

edit: frustratingly the servers-per-user-account-that-I-don't-understand-how-to-use show up, but not PS3mediasever. At this point I wouldn't mind just streaming MP3s, but I need videos on again eventually. I'm using Win8 Pro. I've tried explicitly enabling upnp discovery and "wireless portable devices devices-in" through the advanced section of the Windows Firewall (which seem to cover the main upnp ports), but no dice.

edit2: found this thread, but following the instructions doesn't seem to have helped. Also took me a while to figure out that the Metro settings are on a pop-up menu from idling the mouse on the right-hand side.

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2012 around 02:41

Mike1o1
Sep 5, 2004
Tiluvas

Is anybody else getting inundated with Windows Defender updates? I'm getting Windows Update notifications 1 or 2 times a day, usually just for a virus definition update.

I have my Windows Update settings set to Download automatically, but to let me choose whether to install them. I don't like that these definition updates are now tied to Windows Update. That seems a step back from Windows Security Essentials. Anyway to make it so Windows Defender updates itself automatically?

Frog
May 25, 2006
Ribbit

Mike1o1 posted:

Is anybody else getting inundated with Windows Defender updates? I'm getting Windows Update notifications 1 or 2 times a day, usually just for a virus definition update.

I have my Windows Update settings set to Download automatically, but to let me choose whether to install them. I don't like that these definition updates are now tied to Windows Update. That seems a step back from Windows Security Essentials. Anyway to make it so Windows Defender updates itself automatically?

They were tied to Windows Update in Microsoft Security Essentials too. Related: Does anyone know how to bring back the 'scan with Microsoft Security EssentialsWindows Defender' action when you right click on a file? Is it even necessary anymore? Or does the program just scan all downloads automatically?

Frog fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2012 around 04:10

CUNT AND PASTE
Aug 15, 2004

~see my amazon wishlistu~


Mike1o1 posted:

Is anybody else getting inundated with Windows Defender updates? I'm getting Windows Update notifications 1 or 2 times a day, usually just for a virus definition update.

I have my Windows Update settings set to Download automatically, but to let me choose whether to install them. I don't like that these definition updates are now tied to Windows Update. That seems a step back from Windows Security Essentials. Anyway to make it so Windows Defender updates itself automatically?

This seems like the standard post-XP Windows Defender/Windows Security Essentials experience to me. I have the same setting on Windows Update and it usually nags me once a day.

Two clicks later, it's dealt with, but it's so annoying that I switched to NOD32 on all the machines I cared about. I can configure NOD32 Antivirus to update itself automatically and not bother me with popups or trivial notifications, and I still get to choose when I install my usual Windows Updates.

CUNT AND PASTE
Aug 15, 2004

~see my amazon wishlistu~


Frog posted:

They were tied to Windows Update in Microsoft Security Essentials too. Related: Does anyone know how to bring back the 'scan with Microsoft Security EssentialsWindows Defender' action when you right click on a file? Is it even necessary anymore? Or does the program just scan all downloads automatically?

AFAIK, Microsoft Security Essentials has always done real-time scanning (any executable data is scanned before execution).

Mike1o1
Sep 5, 2004
Tiluvas

stinkyhole AND PASTE posted:

This seems like the standard post-XP Windows Defender/Windows Security Essentials experience to me. I have the same setting on Windows Update and it usually nags me once a day.

Weird, I don't remember that with WSE on 7. It only seemed to nag me via Windows Update if my computer was on sleep/hybernate for awhile and it couldn't run it's automated scans. Oh well, it's just annoying to see the notification on the lock screen, but I'll deal with it.

CUNT AND PASTE
Aug 15, 2004

~see my amazon wishlistu~


No, I use this same "Download and then tell me when updates are ready to install" setting on WU on Windows 7, and I get bothered daily.

CUNT AND PASTE
Aug 15, 2004

~see my amazon wishlistu~


You can open "Windows Update > View update history", you'll see 'Definition Update for <product name> - KB###### (Definition x.xxx.xxx.x).

There's a 'Date Installed' column there too, so you can see if you missed the previous daily update.

xgalaxy
Jan 27, 2004
i write code

So I will probably be purchasing a full version of Win8 sometime this week for my home desktop computer.

I am looking forward to seeing how the Xbox Music stuff works. I used to have a Zune a couple of years ago, and really enjoyed the 10 free songs per month deal they had, but I guess they killed that off, unless you were grandfathered into the deal.

I'd probably buy into the Xbox Music streaming subscription service if they offered an OSX client, as that is what I use at work (which is where most of my music listening occurs). I heard rumors that they were planning on making an iOS client, but I haven't heard anything about them developing an OSX client. It seems silly to me that they would put so much effort into a music streaming service and then deny someone willing to pay a subscription just because they use a different OS.

I don't know if the published information about how many songs Xbox Music has in their catalog is true or not, but if it is, they have double the music selection of Spotify, which is the service I currently use.

teraflame
Jan 6, 2009


Xbox music reduces its volume considerably when I exit out to desktop. If I go back to view the app again, its full volume. How can I fix this?

MikusR
Jan 5, 2008


UncleGuito posted:

So is there any benefit to installing this Catalyst pack on a HD4000 series card?
You get OpenGL support and Catalyst Control Center.

mediaphage posted:

For what it's worth, if anyone is still running the the RTM code that was leaked, you really should upgrade to the Win8 Pro code that's available.
The only difference between "leaked" RTM and what is available now is a small marker file inside install.wim that identifies where it came from (like which OEM partner etc.).

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006


Windows 8 get my thumbs up. After figuring my way around the Metro interface, I think I can manage just as well as with Win7.

The Wikipedia Metro app does not featured a search function.

Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2012 around 11:43

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


Win+Q its the same for all apps. Don't even need to open them to use it.

Do apps that update come with any form of patch notes? And do you need to keep the store open to finish updating them or does the updater run in the background?

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006


Sri.Theo posted:

Win+Q its the same for all apps. Don't even need to open them to use it.
That's nice, I guess, though I shouldn't have to ask for a shortcut on the Internet.

Diviance
Feb 11, 2004

Television rules the nation.


Baron Bifford posted:

Windows 8 get my thumbs up. After figuring my way around the Metro interface, I think I can manage just as well as with Win7.

The Wikipedia Metro app does not featured a search function.

Use the Charms bar on the right side to Search, as well, if you don't like using shortcuts.

MikusR
Jan 5, 2008


Sri.Theo posted:

Do apps that update come with any form of patch notes?
Usually yes. When in update screen select only one app and at the bottom you will see details button.

Baron Bifford posted:

That's nice, I guess, though I shouldn't have to ask for a shortcut on the Internet.
You know that windows has a built in Help with shortcuts and other stuff?

MikusR fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2012 around 13:19

JAssassin
Feb 14, 2009

The stylin' n' profilin', limousine riding, jet flying, kiss-stealing, wheelin' n' dealin' son of a gun!


teraflame posted:

Xbox music reduces its volume considerably when I exit out to desktop. If I go back to view the app again, its full volume. How can I fix this?

I was having the same issue with the TuneIn Radio app. No clue how to change it yet. There's no real volume mixer for the Metro mode, and the desktop mode's mixer doesn't change apps. It's a shame, really.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


MikusR posted:

Usually yes. When in update screen select only one app and at the bottom you will see details button.

Thanks.

So can any developers comment on how the reviews and rating systems are working out for them? Are there any tools for responding to bad reviews?

somethingwicked
May 5, 2006

Hai!

I've been having an issue lately with updating multiple apps from the store not working correctly. Yesterday I had 3 apps that could be updated, but when I click to install it would all go to 'pending' then automatically go to the screen saying the apps have been installed. If I backed out and went back into the screen it would still show the apps as needing updates.

Selecting each app individually worked fine after multiple attempts of a mass update. I believe other people have mentioned this issue before, so FYI.

ManSedan
May 7, 2006
Seats 4

So, on my "work" computer, I put my email and whatnot into the store so I could download a few apps, it tells me "something happened and we could not complete your purchase". This is trying to download any free program. I'm dumb and don't know what to do, halp?

Auron
Jan 10, 2002

Drunken Robot Rage

I'm looking at upgrading to an SSD here in a few weeks, and just wanted to make sure I have the "clean install" process correct for Windows 8 on a new drive. I bought the actual physical media Windows 8 Professional and I did install it on my current HD.

-Install SSD
-Install Windows 7
-Upgrade to Windows 8
-Enjoy

If there is a better process of doing this, I'm open to suggestions. I'm under the impression that without having the system builder version of Windows 8, you can't actually do a clean install. Or is cloning the actual best option here instead of doing a clean install?

TheRationalRedditor
Jul 17, 2000

WHO ABUSED HIM. WHO ABUSED THE BOY.


You can do a totally clean Win8 install with the "Reset" option found in system settings (like Refresh but more severe!)

Auron
Jan 10, 2002

Drunken Robot Rage

Glen Goobersmooches posted:

You can do a totally clean Win8 install with the "Reset" option found in system settings (like Refresh but more severe!)

I'm not resetting the system though, I'm switching over to an SSD so it would be a new install on a completely different drive.

Or are you saying I should clone and THEN reset?

GargleBlaster
Mar 17, 2008

Stupid Narutard

Regarding the somewhat dodgy "lie to get it for 14.99" thing, Microsoft appear to have closed that loophole now. It now asks for the product key that came with your machine, for validation.

One and the Same
Jan 19, 2008

******************!!!!!

I'm considering picking up Windows 8 Pro today on my old PC because it looks like it will work well with my setup, on the couch, with my computer hooked up to my TV as my primary monitor. Can anybody using it in a similar way give me their impressions?

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride


Netflix and Hulu already have metro apps so if you use those a lot given that you have it hooked up to your TV it'd be pretty good for that

babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006



One and the Same posted:

I'm considering picking up Windows 8 Pro today on my old PC because it looks like it will work well with my setup, on the couch, with my computer hooked up to my TV as my primary monitor. Can anybody using it in a similar way give me their impressions?

It works about as well as 7 when on the desktop. Metro is much easier to see from a distance. The Logitech K400 is a really nice, cheaper keyboard for couchposting.

babies havin rabies fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2012 around 16:24

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


Does anyone know how to get rid of that sent from Windows Live signature mail uses? I can't find it in the settings.

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

DON'T TRY THIS, KIDS AT HOME


Sri.Theo posted:

Does anyone know how to get rid of that sent from Windows Live signature mail uses? I can't find it in the settings.

It's in the Account options. You have to turn it off for ever account, though I'm glad it has a per-account signature option.

One and the Same
Jan 19, 2008

******************!!!!!

babies havin rabies posted:

It works about as well as 7 when on the desktop. Metro is much easier to see from a distance. The Logitech K400 is a really nice, cheaper keyboard for couchposting.

Thanks. I'm using a K350 right now and its been working great. This sounds like just what I need for my setup.

Edit : also, I'm excited to use kinect to navigate my desktop.

One and the Same fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2012 around 16:36

Cuttlefish Party
Mar 18, 2011

Cuttlefish: GO.
(They've advanced quickly.)


Auron posted:

I'm looking at upgrading to an SSD here in a few weeks, and just wanted to make sure I have the "clean install" process correct for Windows 8 on a new drive. I bought the actual physical media Windows 8 Professional and I did install it on my current HD.

-Install SSD
-Install Windows 7
-Upgrade to Windows 8
-Enjoy

If there is a better process of doing this, I'm open to suggestions. I'm under the impression that without having the system builder version of Windows 8, you can't actually do a clean install. Or is cloning the actual best option here instead of doing a clean install?

I also bought the media and found that I was able to install just fine onto a blank SSD--the only problem came when I tried to activate. In the last thread, a workaround was posted:

randomnull posted:

How to install Windows 8 upgrade copy clean w/o previous windows installation

Install Win8
Then do the following
Go to Metro and type CMD
Right click CMD, click ‘Run as administrator’
At the command prompt, type, regedit
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE
Find the key mediabootinstall
Change it's value to 0
Go back to the Command Prompt, type the following:
slmgr /rearm
Restart the pc and use the activate windows to re-enter your product key

Sounds potentially very handy, although I haven't tried it. If you do give it a shot, I would be interested in finding out whether it works!

Economy Clown Car
May 5, 2009


Is it okay to ask general inquiries that are kinda hard to google?

I hear win8 handles memory and whatnot a lot more smartly now, and there's less "a process freezes, it is forever irreversible." type ordeals or they are outright abolished and solved in a way where a frozen program will never just hang around forever.

If that's true that would be wonderous, because freezing and sticking programs are starting to drive me nuts in win7 related to a few programs both old and new. Where if they crash they remain in the task manager to taunt me till I reboot Which is a problem of the programs I believe, not the OS. I just hate dealing with it and if upgrading could solve this for me I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Stubb Dogg
Feb 16, 2007

loskat naamalle


badjohny posted:

I saw a screenshot someone in these forums did of their win8 setup and they had the finance app having multiple tiles with a separate stock in each. So one had apples price, one had msft, etc. How is that done?
With mouse you can right click on any of stock tiles in finance app to select it, and in bottom action bar there will be option to pin tile to start.

Chamook
Nov 16, 2006

wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

Cuttlefish Party posted:

I also bought the media and found that I was able to install just fine onto a blank SSD--the only problem came when I tried to activate. In the last thread, a workaround was posted:


Sounds potentially very handy, although I haven't tried it. If you do give it a shot, I would be interested in finding out whether it works!

Confirming that this works. I upgraded my wife's laptop and swapped in an SSD for the install, so the install was to a blank disk and it couldn't activate until I did this.

ljw1004
Jan 18, 2005

rum


Economy Clown Car posted:

Is it okay to ask general inquiries that are kinda hard to google?
I hear win8 handles memory and whatnot a lot more smartly now, and there's less "a process freezes, it is forever irreversible." type ordeals or they are outright abolished and solved in a way where a frozen program will never just hang around forever.

If that's true that would be wonderous, because freezing and sticking programs are starting to drive me nuts in win7 related to a few programs both old and new.

App-store apps work under the new improved smarter memory model. Regular desktop apps work largely the same as they did in Win7.

There's something in Win8 called the "PLM", Process Lifetime Manager. If it sees that an app is unresponsive, then it terminates it completely.

If you switch away from an app, then the PLM tells it: "suspend yourself". The app now has to make sure it saves any and all state. It has about 7 seconds to comply. If it fails to indicate that it's finished within this time, then the PLM terminates it completely.

But if the app is well-behaved, and indicates that it's finished within this time, this is where the magic happens. The PLM knows that the app is well-behaved and responsive. So it freezes every single CPU thread of the app, so the app is guaranteed to take 0 CPU resources. It marks all the app's RAM as "up for grabs", meaning that other apps can use it if they have need.

Summary: for app-store apps, when you switch away from them, the system (1) guarantees that they take zero battery or resources, (2) makes them instantaneous to switch back to, unless that's made impossible by subsequent demands.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007


I'm having problems with the Messaging app, it's not letting me send or receive any messages.

"We can't send a message right now" is the error I get.

Has anyone figured a way to fix this? Googling isn't helping so much as throwing a lot of temporary fixes at it which seems to come back randomly so I was wondering if there was a more permanent solution.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007


MikusR posted:

You get OpenGL support and Catalyst Control Center.

The only difference between "leaked" RTM and what is available now is a small marker file inside install.wim that identifies where it came from (like which OEM partner etc.).

If this is the case, then the store checks it (totally possible given the restrictions in the store). Either way, most games wouldn't run on it for me on a few computers I tested it on, neither would things like SmartGlass. The Win8 Pro is working great, though.

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chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM


What's the cheapest way to get windows 8 on a completely new computer that's never had an OS before? I don't think he has any prior versions of windows lying around...

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