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objectively bad
Nov 11, 2006

ABANDONS HIS FRIENDS


Black Ops 2 main thread



Not an awful lot to say here. If you want info, you're better off visiting a site like: http://www.blackopsii.com

Important things you should care about :

- Matchmaking and official dedicated servers ONLY. Blops2 will support parties allowing you to pub stomp all day long, free from the tyranny of server admins.
- Pointstreak rewards are now 1 set, both in terms of types and how you pick them. No specialist, no support/assault. And you no longer have a different set for each custom class. Dogs are back. So is the blackbird.
- They've changed up the create a class, you now have 10 points to assign. Everything costs one and you can choose to go without a piece of equipment. You can also choose wildcards, which cost 1 point and allow you to add a 3rd attachment/extra lethal grenade/extra perk etc.
- Dolphin diving is back

We are still using Modern Goonfare 2 steam chat to organize playing games

Let me make this very clear: BE IN THE STEAM CHAT. There is no reason to be in the group if you aren't in the chat. We like to get to know the people we play with and, unless you're already friends with one of the regulars, no one is going to send you party invites if you aren't in chat.

This is a PC elitism free zone. You're playing call of duty on PC, there is literally nothing to be smug about.

If someone wants to write up something about the SP and how that fits in with the previous games I can add that in.

objectively bad fucked around with this message at Nov 5, 2012 around 13:38

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AngryCaterpillar
Feb 1, 2007

When will this hatred end?


Guess I'll link this thread from mine

kagebot
Oct 6, 2003


A decent create a class calc

Shout outs to my cod steam chat crew

Ephedra
Jan 5, 2010

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I think biggest thing I'm looking forward to is dedicated servers and 3v3v3v3 TDM. I really hope they went in different direction than MW3 with their spawning system. This is just me but I felt MW3 was a step backwards from MW2. I understand that this is a different team than the IW team so there is hope.

Edit: fixed swype errors.

Ephedra fucked around with this message at Nov 5, 2012 around 23:37

BIFF!
Jan 4, 2009


Way to not mention zombies you moran

Qmass
Jun 3, 2003



Ephedra posted:

I really hope they went a different direction than MW3 with their spawning system. This is just me but I felt MW3 was a stop backwards from MW2.
You are on pretty firm ground with that stance...

SilentW
Apr 3, 2009


Can't wait, Dogs 24/7 also Duncan getting banned from every server

It's gonna be great guys

I swear

please?

objectively bad
Nov 11, 2006

ABANDONS HIS FRIENDS


SilentW posted:

Can't wait, Dogs 24/7 also Duncan getting banned from every server

It's gonna be great guys

I swear

please?

That's the beautiful thing about black ops 2. There's only official servers. There's noone to ban me.

BIFF! posted:

Way to not mention zombies you moran

Write something up and I'll add it in. Also come back to mg2.

apophenium
Apr 13, 2009

A X T E
I N C A L
A X T U C E
M U M


objectively bad posted:

Write something up and I'll add it in. Also come back to mg2.

"This game also has zombies or something, who cares."

Ironsights
Nov 6, 2008



This one's going to be different right?

Oh who am I kidding.


All I ask is for the days where you could get a full group of goons in the MG2 chat room with no problem.

Ironsights fucked around with this message at Nov 5, 2012 around 19:44

SilentW
Apr 3, 2009


objectively bad posted:

That's the beautiful thing about black ops 2. There's only official servers. There's noone to ban me.

So wait, clans can't rent servers and enforce retard-mode any more? PRAISE THE SUN~

erotic dad
Jun 27, 2005

MY DICK


Looking forward to 35 layers of anime/dog emblems and not getting banned for it because nobody at Treyarch gives a poo poo about PC.

Vulcan
Mar 24, 2005
Motobike

I thought the cod blops was the one where they cared more about the PC on?

No hosing your own dedicated servers? I was hoping this would be a throwback to blops 1 after completly skipping over that modern crapfare abomination they threw out last time (which was clearly the same game with reskinned maps).

cod blops 1 was like the present day Counter Strike, and being able to enjoy that sense of community by going into the same servers and seeing the same people each time was great and brought back that glory days of Counter Strike vibe.

When the server list looks like this:
code:
OFFICIAL TDM SERVER #1
OFFICIAL DM SERVER #120
OFFICIAL TDM SERVER #55
OFFICIAL CTF SERVER #34
OFFICIAL TDM SERVER #929
I find that no one ever joins the same server its just hop in to whatever has a low ping and surprise sex face. Not that theres anything wrong with that, but a great reason to play games on a PC instead of say an xbox is to enjoy that sense of community (along with the better controls and graphics of course).

Also now how will I troll the servers that require you to crouch walk and aim down sights

Vulcan fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2012 around 03:56

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007
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Vulcan posted:

I thought the cod blops was the one where they cared more about the PC on?

No hosing your own dedicated servers? I was hoping this would be a throwback to blops 1 after completly skipping over that modern crapfare abomination they threw out last time (which was clearly the same game with reskinned maps).

cod blops 1 was like the present day Counter Strike, and being able to enjoy that sense of community by going into the same servers and seeing the same people each time was great and brought back that glory days of Counter Strike vibe.

When the server list looks like this:
code:
OFFICIAL TDM SERVER #1
OFFICIAL DM SERVER #120
OFFICIAL TDM SERVER #55
OFFICIAL CTF SERVER #34
OFFICIAL TDM SERVER #929
I find that no one ever joins the same server its just hop in to whatever has a low ping and surprise sex face. Not that theres anything wrong with that, but a great reason to play games on a PC instead of say an xbox is to enjoy that sense of community (along with the better controls and graphics of course).

Also now how will I troll the servers that require you to crouch walk and aim down sights

There's no server browser as far as I know, it's just normal xbox style matchmaking but all the matchmade matches are on internal treyarch/activision dedicated servers.

Also yeah I suppose Blops 1 was like modern day counterstrike, in that you had to sort through piles of poo poo to find the five good servers and then immediately get banned when you do well for "hacking".

objectively bad
Nov 11, 2006

ABANDONS HIS FRIENDS


Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say that PC cod community is one of the single worst communities in gaming. There is nothing I enjoy more than ruining their experience as much as possible. Just look at what's left of each. CoD4 is a bunch of bad 16v16 tdm servers, CoD4 promod is a bunch of nerds dancing about for their fragmovie, W@W is not worth mentioning, MW2 iwnet is a joke, alteriwnet is a bigger joke, blops has less players than iwnet and treyarch even had to bring some official servers back online because the player run ones are that bad.

I highly doubt mw3 will do well once blops2 is released. Even if the game itself is bad, having dedicated servers as standard, fov options and fresh gameplay changes and maps is all it'll take to draw people to it.

The best part of the pc cod and cod community as a whole is ensuring you make their game experiences as miserable as possible (without hacking because then you ruin my experience).

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Comfort food,
mixed with pills and booze.
Anything to fight,
the permanent blues.
You're going to need it all
when I'm through with you.


objectively bad posted:

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say that PC cod community is one of the single worst communities in gaming.

There are MLP roleplay communities for both Minecraft and Team Fortress 2.

Blarfo
Jul 16, 2007


So what's the deal with the pre-order map? Is this gonna be like a huge community splitter? Will you get kicked when a server rotates to Nuketown if you didn't preorder? Will you not be in the same "pool" as the people who didn't preorder if you DID?

I don't like the pre-order map idea... I'm concerned about there being technical issues like Blops 1 but I really want to get the game. I don't want to get boned if I pre-ordered or if I didn't. vv

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008



Thinking about getting back on the train with this one after I took a hiatus for Black Ops and MW3. I racked up 400 hours of playtime with the goon crew in MW2 and only 30 for the latter two games combined.

Black Ops never became playable on my PC even after updating every component - that hitching problem was the weirdest thing.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




Fallom posted:

Thinking about getting back on the train with this one after I took a hiatus for Black Ops and MW3. I racked up 400 hours of playtime with the goon crew in MW2 and only 30 for the latter two games combined.

Black Ops never became playable on my PC even after updating every component - that hitching problem was the weirdest thing.

I'm kind of in the same boat, except I picked up MW3 during a Steam sale.

Then I found out I couldn't connect to the multiplayer servers due to some bug they never figured out. I hope that doesn't happen with black Ops 2.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Comfort food,
mixed with pills and booze.
Anything to fight,
the permanent blues.
You're going to need it all
when I'm through with you.


Fallom posted:

Thinking about getting back on the train with this one after I took a hiatus for Black Ops and MW3. I racked up 400 hours of playtime with the goon crew in MW2 and only 30 for the latter two games combined.

Black Ops never became playable on my PC even after updating every component - that hitching problem was the weirdest thing.

Amazing how the audio stutter glitch in Blops never got fixed, but then also seems to have gotten worse with time! Who were you back when MG2 used to play MW2 regularly?

objectively bad
Nov 11, 2006

ABANDONS HIS FRIENDS


pcdev posted:

Current ETA for Steam preloading to begin: Friday, Nov 9, 3pm PST. #BlackOps2 #PC
https://twitter.com/pcdev/status/266364856016441344

VogeGandire
Jul 18, 2012



Welp, looks like I'm getting in on this for the pubstomping shenanigans.

Ironsights
Nov 6, 2008



Considering the major stuttering issues the last one had at launch, I think I'll wait till this launches to see what it's like.

BIFF!
Jan 4, 2009


Common sense in a COD thread?

objectively bad
Nov 11, 2006

ABANDONS HIS FRIENDS


BIFF! posted:

Common sense in a COD thread?

Speaking common sense.

They're making snd switch sides every round in the event of a tie the team with more kills gets defence or something.

BIFF!
Jan 4, 2009


Preloading now available. This time they've split it into SP, MP, and Zombies.

grayrobot
Jul 20, 2002

colour malfunction

No admins means that we can't kick hackers.

versus
Sep 11, 2001



No admins means that we can't be kicked by admins who don't know what hackers actually look like.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007
INTERNET DETECTIVE HERE! Look out!


Ultimus posted:

No admins means that we can't be kicked by admins who don't know what hackers actually look like.

No admins means I won't get banned from like every server that doesn't have stupid rules.

Also I just preorded from amazon and am preloading, it's me I'm the awful consumer whore.

DerLeo
Dec 11, 2011

I have seen the light, and it is a string

What the gently caress is a game like Call of Duty doing with 20 gigs of HDD space?

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007
INTERNET DETECTIVE HERE! Look out!


Mine only downloaded about 13 or 14, but who knows.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

I love DLC, and enjoy visually progressive Diablo armor sets for my tiny penis

(Unrelatedly, I am also a RACIST)


DerLeo posted:

What the gently caress is a game like Call of Duty doing with 20 gigs of HDD space?

Lots and lots of audio.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!


I still can't decide if I want this or not. What with Planetside 2 around the corner but I've got a feeling it won't scratch that itch of fast paced close combat that Cod does.

I take it safe to say this game won't be seeing a discount for many many months being Activision?

nerve
Jan 2, 2011


SKA SUCKS


Can I skip downloading the SP to save HDD space, and still be able to play MP/Zombies?

Ephedra
Jan 5, 2010

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nerve posted:

Can I skip downloading the SP to save HDD space, and still be able to play MP/Zombies?

Yes, I only downloaded MP and Zombie crap. (Who plays these games for SP anyways...)

Brooks Cracktackle
Oct 17, 2008


Ugh I don't want this game at all but I want to steamroll pubbies again just like the old days
What version are people buying (ie. with or without the nuketown crap)

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!


Brooks Cracktackle posted:

Ugh I don't want this game at all but I want to steamroll pubbies again just like the old days
What version are people buying (ie. with or without the nuketown crap)

As nuketown comes with the game if you pre-order I imagine most will have it.

Meta Ridley
Jan 15, 2007

May I help you with your order?

This is actually exactly what I wanted, Matchmaking + Internal Dedicated Servers, pretty surprised they went with that instead of just giving us lovely P2P-hosted games.

The "CS-vibe" is cool, until dumb admins with retarded made-up rules start enforcing their servers, or getting banned for hacking (playing well), or having 0 servers hosting certain game modes, or your favorite server becomes vacated, and 0 servers even hosting DLC content.
I bought all 4 DLC packs when they went on sale a while back, and I have never played a DLC map. There quite literally isn't a single populated US server that has the DLC maps.

Even the true modern-day Counterstrike (CS:GO) uses the same system and made the server browser almost completely irrelevant.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




I found out a couple of friends had pre-ordered it and broke down and grabbed it on Steam. I really hope the new MP system means it doesn't carry over the MW3 "never able to connect to the main server" bug.

Can anybody tell me roughly how big the pre-load is if you don't download the SP portion of it? I'll undoubtedly play the campaign at some point, just because, but if I can just download it later without causing any problems for the MP/Zombies part of it I'd rather just save the time.

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TheCoon
Mar 3, 2009



Zaodai posted:

I found out a couple of friends had pre-ordered it and broke down and grabbed it on Steam. I really hope the new MP system means it doesn't carry over the MW3 "never able to connect to the main server" bug.

Can anybody tell me roughly how big the pre-load is if you don't download the SP portion of it? I'll undoubtedly play the campaign at some point, just because, but if I can just download it later without causing any problems for the MP/Zombies part of it I'd rather just save the time.

The pre-load is three separate parts this time, MP is 4.7gb, Campaign is 8.2gb and Zombies is 1gb.

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