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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

One day in your memoirs, you'll describe me as inscrutable.

Peachstapler posted:

Have you tried SA-Mart?

Yeah I've seen some good stuff on there, unfortunately the stuff I'd like had been scooped up already.

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Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

BUDDHA'S A BRO
296 Fuckups and Counting!


Here's the sad truth about SA-Mart.

We have several guys who just buy games only to resell them on ebay.

It wouldn't be so bad if it was just one, but we do have several. Not gonna name names here, but if I ever sell off any of my stuff, everyone here gets notification first (and in the IRC chat).

Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

Kilazar posted:

You have to be damned fast to beat goons on SA mart. I swear there is one guy that is on top of every vintage game sale within minutes of it posting.
It depends on what you're looking for, especially if the prices are good. Just like a good garage sale, SA-Mart hawks will pounce on anything with an attractive price.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


Peachstapler posted:

It depends on what you're looking for, especially if the prices are good. Just like a good garage sale, SA-Mart hawks will pounce on anything with an attractive price.

Oh I get that. If you actually have the time to monitor SA mart you can get some good deals. But if you are not watching it like a hawk, they will go buy within minutes of posting.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

World's finest snatch.


Kilazar posted:

You have to be damned fast to beat goons on SA mart. I some goons are on top of every vintage game sale within minutes of it posting.

Yep. I'm pretty sure two of the guys live on SA-Mart. But let's not start cannibalising each other.

I'll always offer stuff in here before selling.

voltron lion force
Sep 15, 2010



Ineffiable posted:

I go by the GCCX logic of 'if you haven't seen the good ending, you haven't beat the game'

One of the trinkets you have to collect to get the good ending doesn't have any events flags set for it. It is literally a model that hovers and cannot be picked up. Your character will just go through it.

Without it, you can't get the true/good ending.


So really, you saw a ending but did you really beat the game?

Holy poo poo I didn't even think that game had a "good" ending. I guess I'll turn in my retro gamer card now

I do seem to remember that bug though since the souvenirs were tied to a secret level. IIRC you could unlock it with a cheat code, but did that unlock the ending too?

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 3, 2011


Ineffiable posted:

Here's the sad truth about SA-Mart.

We have several guys who just buy games only to resell them on ebay.

It wouldn't be so bad if it was just one, but we do have several. Not gonna name names here, but if I ever sell off any of my stuff, everyone here gets notification first (and in the IRC chat).

You should at least PM one of the SA-Mart mods about that. It's not illegal or anything, so I'm not sure if they'll do anything about it, but it's a huge dick move so you never know.

Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009



triplexpac posted:

So since vintage game stores are generally way overpriced, where do you guys buy your games? ebay?

A few years ago when I was in the collecting phase where the thrill of the hunt was part of the fun, Craigslist, flea markets, and bulk purchases off eBay and other places online were great. Another huge contributor is friends and work. People like to get rid of stuff all the time, and if you're known as a retro-gamer in enough social circles, you might find a pile of NES games or something on your desk when you show up to work. Also keep up with forums, like the NEO-GEO forums. People on forums are often getting rid of stuff to make space, so they'll sell it for less if they know it's going to someone who will use it. If you know people who travel you're in extra luck, knowing people taking a trip to Japan can get you fantastic deals on some of the mid-range import games.

I'm now at the point where I go for more quality than quantity. Space is a bigger concern than money (largely because I'm more patient), and I have most of the good "collection filler" games on most systems. I've also been in a downsizing phase the last couple years: Got rid of my Atari 5200 and Turbo Grafx a few years ago. So retro game shops, eBay, Amazon, and other places known for being a little overpriced is not as big a concern for me, if I have to I'll wait an extra paycheck or three for some more money from my games fund to get the next game on my wishlist. I am still using Craigslist, forums, and friends for stuff, but I'm more discerning, I don't take everything.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006
I shoot my gun and Java be dancin'


midge posted:

I'll always offer stuff in here before selling.

Same here. Not that I could bear to part with much of anything I have, but if I wanted to unload something I'd definitely ask you guys first, since I know it'd go to a good home and not just get flipped immediately.

Doug Dinsdale
Aug 31, 2003

Shorts
Comfy: {Yes}
Easy to Wear: {Yes}
Alright, we're good to go!

Kid Fenris posted:

Oh wow. Do you remember if Nintendo seriously considered releasing Terranigma in North America? There were rumors about it hitting the U.S. in early 1996 (possibly even under the title "Genesis"), but nothing came of that, of course.

I was under the impression that it was going to be released in NA.
I don't know why it didn't happen...except for games like Illusion of Gaia and even more infamously Earthbound tanking massively. They so badly underperformed, I guess NOA got gun shy about bringing over RPGs, even of the action RPG variety.
Given how those turned out, it seems kind of miraculous NOA even rolled the dice on localizing Pokemon originally.


tvb posted:

Here's a retro swag question: Anyone have a copy of this?





I've never seen it (was in Japan at the time). But I am a fan of Charlie Nozawa (though he goes by the pen name Tamakichi Sakura). He's published 24 separate books through proper publishers (not including reprints/reformats).

Nozawa/Sakura drew manga for years with Famitsu until his bi-polar disorder made it impossible to keep up with a weekly publishing schedule. He moved to Comic Beam (also published by Enterbrain) where he sank deeper into his mental illness. He hasn't published in at least five years.

Takekuma used to (maybe still does) write storylines for managa. I think he most famously teamed up with Koji Aihara on the "Saruman" series.

Lesley is still with NOA and heads the localization section.

Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

WickedIcon posted:

You should at least PM one of the SA-Mart mods about that. It's not illegal or anything, so I'm not sure if they'll do anything about it, but it's a huge dick move so you never know.
That particular behaviour been commonplace since the creation of SA-Mart about a decade ago. There's no changing the culture of this beast we've created. You'll find there are better places to discuss this, like the Discussion Forum of SA-Mart, but since it's been done ad nauseum then no sense in bringing it up again. Just thought I'd let you know that you'll find no mod sympathy, though.

edit: sorry if that sounds rather bleak

Peachstapler fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2012 around 20:36

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

BUDDHA'S A BRO
296 Fuckups and Counting!


voltron lion force posted:

Holy poo poo I didn't even think that game had a "good" ending. I guess I'll turn in my retro gamer card now

I do seem to remember that bug though since the souvenirs were tied to a secret level. IIRC you could unlock it with a cheat code, but did that unlock the ending too?

You can unlock the secret level but that's more of play this level from a menu. It won't trigger the flag for getting the good ending.

You can still view it with a gameshark IIRC.


Anyways yes, I file Space Station Silicon Valley as 'unbeatable n64 games' along with South Park (the fps) and Superman 64.

zenintrude
Apr 7, 2008


triplexpac posted:

So since vintage game stores are generally way overpriced, where do you guys buy your games? ebay?

I get my stuff from a variety of places... first and foremost, I check SA-Mart since you usually get a price that benefits both the buyer and seller by avoiding Ebay fees.

Second to that, I like Craigslist: I tend to buy lots off of CL because I can get better prices, keep what I need, and sell (or give) my extras to goons who would otherwise not have access to them at good prices. Sold a bunch of TG16 games on SA-M this year to make up for some other things I got with them.

Third, Pawn Shops: A lot of pawn shops don't even bother with retro stuff anymore, but I do pick up some stuff for cheap to use for trade fodder at a local retro shop (see below.)

Fourth, I hit up Ebay: I always have a pretty long watchlist running. A lot of people will probably tell you to just look at BiN stuff, but my tastes tend to be more obscure and I've found it quite easy to pick up things I want for cheap (i.e. Resident Evil 3 on Dreamcast for $10 shipped) by waiting on auctions that seem to have little-to-no traffic. Also, use gixen.com to snipe things that you expect to be contentious.

Fifth, Amazon/Half.com: occasionally you can find deals on things here. I got a brand new copy of Deep Fighter for $4 shipped on Amazon recently and last year a bunch of us took advantage of a Half.com free shipping deal.

Sixth, Mom 'n' Pop game stores: I have a halfway decent store local to me that has a few downsides (i.e. a terrible Dreamcast selection) but a huge upside: they give much more for sealed games as trade in fodder because they resell them (rightly so) as new. Since I have a tendency to buy crap from the Kmart (R.I.P.) and Sears bargain bins for $5 and under and leave it sealed on my shelf, I've started trading this stuff in and making $5~10 profits in store credit since they'll turn around and sell the things for $20~25. While the store doesn't have much I'm actually interested in, having credit on hand helped me fill in some gaps in goons Namco Museum collections earlier this year.

[edit] But if you want one piece of advice, it should be not to be afraid to buy in bulk. Just keep what you want, and sell off the rest to keep you from the dog and/or poorhouse.

[edit2] Which reminds me... I still have some TG16 games that I'm about to dump on Ebay. If anyone's interested, hit me up and I'll get you a list.

zenintrude fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2012 around 20:44

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Bury my heart at the Newtown Square Wawa

From the folks I talked to in the past I get the idea that NOA localized Pokemon chiefly because Yamauchi made them do it. Nobody in the industry really liked the game, I feel like, until it became popular. Famitsu very famously gave the original Pokemon 8/7/7/7 out of 10, which if you know Famitsu review standards is basically the equivalent of "I played it for half and hour and it's ok I guess".

Maybe you can parallel that with Skylanders today, I dunno. I noticed at the local Best Buy that Skylanders crap now occupies all the shelf space anime used to

Irascalopolator
Jun 17, 2003



triplexpac posted:

So since vintage game stores are generally way overpriced, where do you guys buy your games? ebay?

I just ask around. I scored an opened but never played FF7 for free from a woman at work because her son left it after he moved out. Talking about old games on Facebook occasionally works wonders, too. It got me a huge N64 haul for a bottle of liquor.

Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

zenintrude posted:

[edit] But if you want one piece of advice, it should be not to be afraid to buy in bulk. Just keep what you want, and sell off the rest to keep you from the dog and/or poorhouse.
I used this approach in SA-Mart for nearly two years. I was happy for a while, thinking I had this boss collection. Very soon my house filled up with games to the point where I'd never play them. Not even in a lifetime.

Thank 7-11 it came to a point where I finally had a manageable collection and not a hoarded nerd warehouse. Had to sell my own stuff in bulk to goons in order to feel that I reclaimed my own pad. Life is much more fun when your home doesn't resemble the final shot in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

World's finest snatch.


I'll probably do a write up on this topic soon.

In other news, I won a sketch from Chrissie Zullo which has got several of my nerd friend excited. I have no idea what to ask for and I'm thinking something retro gaming related. Any ideas? She seems to be good at drawing ~ladies~

zenintrude
Apr 7, 2008


midge posted:

I have no idea what to ask for and I'm thinking something retro gaming related. Any ideas? She seems to be good at drawing ~ladies~

I was about to say, "She looks like she could do a pretty good Samus."

But how about having her do something Amano-inspired... that is, if you're down with Final Fantasy art.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

One day in your memoirs, you'll describe me as inscrutable.

I'm doing a quick search on ebay... do old issues of Nintendo Power really sell for $8-15 each?

Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

midge posted:

I'll probably do a write up on this topic soon.

In other news, I won a sketch from Chrissie Zullo which has got several of my nerd friend excited. I have no idea what to ask for and I'm thinking something retro gaming related. Any ideas? She seems to be good at drawing ~ladies~
She can render a stylized female form quite well, so Samus is an obvious choice, but if you're a Soulcalibur fan then there are a handful of rad picks there too.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


triplexpac posted:

I'm doing a quick search on ebay... do old issues of Nintendo Power really sell for $8-15 each?

Yup. I was thinking about building up my old NP collection. And I was really shocked at how much they are going for. Especially the ones that still have the posters.

Michael Carnage
Nov 7, 2004

To find the light you must embrace the darkness.

I posted this in IRC and I had to share this I found this on craigslist


hungry gamer posted:

willing to trade skyrim for xbox 360 for 2 large pizzas must pick up will discuss topping and store must deliver or will sell for 20 call or text 5133440396 Or email me

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


I would make that trade!

zenintrude
Apr 7, 2008


Kilazar posted:

Yup. I was thinking about building up my old NP collection. And I was really shocked at how much they are going for. Especially the ones that still have the posters.

Allow me to reiterate...

zenintrude posted:

[edit] But if you want one piece of advice, it should be not to be afraid to buy in bulk. Just keep what you want, and sell off the rest to keep you from the dog and/or poorhouse.

Unfortunately for me, this worked for getting ODCM 2-12... but I'm probably going to get reamed on buying 0 and 1 since those are never sold in lots.

[edit] And I'm not paying $40: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PREMIER-ISS...=item484af9c487

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

One day in your memoirs, you'll describe me as inscrutable.

Kilazar posted:

Yup. I was thinking about building up my old NP collection. And I was really shocked at how much they are going for. Especially the ones that still have the posters.

Well I'm going to go kill myself now, I had from issue 32-125, most of which were in great condition.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


zenintrude posted:

Allow me to reiterate...


Unfortunately for me, this worked for getting ODCM 2-12... but I'm probably going to get reamed on buying 0 and 1 since those are never sold in lots.

I try to stay away from lots for many of the same reasons you do. I don't need my house over run with nerd poo poo. And I don't really have the time as is to sell off excess. I barley have the time now for the odd garage sale these days.

Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

Do al-azad and the Aussie goon Vypra (sic) still frequent this thread? The latter had a flying doggy avatar. Between the pair they bought over 1/3 of my collection and I often wonder if they are still into the hobby. That poor Aussie bought so many games, I shudder to imagine the time he spent organizing it all.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


Kilazar posted:

I try to stay away from lots for many of the same reasons you do. I don't need my house over run with nerd poo poo. And I don't really have the time as is to sell off excess. I barley have the time now for the odd garage sale these days.

I say that.. and then turn around and on http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3374711632.html

I am so bad.

Anyone that does not plan on reselling, need a NES for cheap? I'll be picking up the lot on Saturday. By cheap I'm talking shipping and whatever you are willing to pay Be nice if I could defray a touch of my cost, as my wife is going to yell at me for this.

I don't need either of the ones pictured. Not sure if they will come with cables either. Will get more details on Saturday when I pick up the lot. I will test them as well.

Kilazar fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2012 around 21:19

JJJJJS
Sep 17, 2007


I find independent stores to be the best bet for retro stuff. Make friends with the owners and never pay full price again. The thrift shops around here are scavenged by resellers on an hourly basis so I don't even bother. Same deal with craigslist. We have some chain retro stores that have insane prices and aren't worth checking. Pawns base their prices off of ebay or even worse amazon.

Then there are the retro conventions. If there's one nearby go to it.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


JJJJJS posted:

I find independent stores to be the best bet for retro stuff. Make friends with the owners and never pay full price again. The thrift shops around here are scavenged by resellers on an hourly basis so I don't even bother. Same deal with craigslist. We have some chain retro stores that have insane prices and aren't worth checking. Pawns base their prices off of ebay or even worse amazon.

Then there are the retro conventions. If there's one nearby go to it.

I wish there were some mom and pop stores here. We only have 2 gamexchanges, and a but load of vintage stocks.

Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

Kilazar posted:

I say that.. and then turn around and on http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3374711632.html

I am a so bad.
Between the two Zeldas and Final Fantasy alone, your $40 is well spent. Batman Returns making an appearance too, and the consoles obviously add some value. Star Voyager is a lovely game though. Let them keep it.

lilcasino
Jun 4, 2001


Kilazar posted:

I say that.. and then turn around and on http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3374711632.html

I am a so bad.

Anyone that does not plan on reselling, need a NES for cheap? I'll be picking up the lot on Saturday. By cheap I'm talking shipping and whatever you are willing to pay Be nice if I could defray a touch of my cost, as my wife is going to yell at me for this.

I don't need either of the ones pictured. Not sure if they will come with cables either. Will get more details on Saturday when I pick up the lot. I will test them as well.

If one of those toasters works I'd take one. I am unable to get my original to work.

zenintrude
Apr 7, 2008


Kilazar posted:

I say that.. and then turn around and on http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3374711632.html

I am so bad.

Anyone that does not plan on reselling, need a NES for cheap? I'll be picking up the lot on Saturday. By cheap I'm talking shipping and whatever you are willing to pay Be nice if I could defray a touch of my cost, as my wife is going to yell at me for this.

I don't need either of the ones pictured. Not sure if they will come with cables either. Will get more details on Saturday when I pick up the lot. I will test them as well.

That is a very good lot at an insanely good price.

Now you have to play Zelda II.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


Peachstapler posted:

Between the two Zeldas and Final Fantasy alone, your $40 is well spent. Batman Returns making an appearance too, and the consoles obviously add some value. Star Voyager is a lovely game though. Let them keep it.

Really? Man I am bad at pricing. I figured those were like 2 dollar games. I mostly wanted the game cube, and 4 player adapter. The games I figured would be a wash, but still add to my collection.

Wife is still going to kill me for spending the money lol.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


lilcasino posted:

If one of those toasters works I'd take one. I am unable to get my original to work.

Sounds good! You got dibs on the first one that works. Will report back with more details when the lot is in my nerdy little hands!


*edit*

I only see one zelda, and that looks to be II. Is that one game with the book hiding the cover possibly zelda 1? If so I will be loving happy cause I been trying to nab that bitch forever.

Shame on the light gun not being included. I don't have one. That will go on my list to find so I can play some Hogans Ally!

Kilazar fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2012 around 21:25

Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

Kilazar posted:

Really? Man I am bad at pricing. I figured those were like 2 dollar games. I mostly wanted the game cube, and 4 player adapter. The games I figured would be a wash, but still add to my collection.

Wife is still going to kill me for spending the money lol.
As long as you're willing to sell them and ship them out quickly to goons either here or in SA-Mart, no grief for the Mrs. to endure. Like I said, it's not a goldmine but those three games alone will get you your money back, and of course the NES consoles you can exchange for about $30 gooncash a piece (as long as they're working).

edit: RE: your Zelda question ... Zelda II is in the front, but it's instruction manual is jammed into the Zelda that's behind it and chances are that cartridge is Zelda 1.

lilcasino
Jun 4, 2001


Kilazar posted:

Sounds good! You got dibs on the first one that works. Will report back with more details when the lot is in my nerdy little hands!


*edit*

I only see one zelda, and that looks to be II. Is that one game with the book hiding the cover possibly zelda 1? If so I will be loving happy cause I been trying to nab that bitch forever.

that book looks like it's for II

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010


Peachstapler posted:

As long as you're willing to sell them and ship them out quickly to goons either here or in SA-Mart, no grief for the Mrs. to endure. Like I said, it's not a goldmine but those three games alone will get you your money back, and of course the NES consoles you can exchange for about $30 gooncash a piece (as long as they're working).

Nah not looking to profit like a mofo. Would rather get them to people that could use them, for whatever small amount they are willing to pay. If I make $10 then I make $10. If someone needs a replacement system and can only afford shipping, so be it!

*edit* also.. I guess I should have asked. Is this allowed in the thread? If not I'll hook up on the IRC later and see if anyone wants them. I'd like to stay away from re sellers nabbin stuff.

zenintrude
Apr 7, 2008


Kilazar posted:

I only see one zelda, and that looks to be II. Is that one game with the book hiding the cover possibly zelda 1? If so I will be loving happy cause I been trying to nab that bitch forever.

The cart in front is definitely Zelda II... it's likely that the Zelda II manual is covering Zelda, since it appears that it's a gold cart peaking out from in back of it.

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Peachstapler
Sep 5, 2003

don't stop believin

zenintrude posted:

The cart in front is definitely Zelda II... it's likely that the Zelda II manual is covering Zelda, since it appears that it's a gold cart peaking out from in back of it.
Watch it be that other gold cart.

And I don't mean Bignose the Caveman.

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