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You'll end up spending 3x the going rate for a dreamcast console just for cables to get it hooked up to the tv.
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GutBomb posted:You'll end up spending 3x the going rate for a dreamcast console just for cables to get it hooked up to the tv.  experience!
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May 29, 2016 15:11
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GutBomb posted:You'll end up spending 3x the going rate for a dreamcast console just for cables to get it hooked up to the tv. It's kind of sad how many consoles this is true for, not even including the cost of the Framemeister.
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May 29, 2016 16:17
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univbee posted:It's kind of sad how many consoles this is true for, not even including the cost of the Framemeister. At least for the GameCube you can just buy a Wii. Assuming you don't want to use the GameBoy player, of course. 
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May 29, 2016 16:20
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Dreamcast -> Toro -> SCART switch -> Frameister What kind of cable do you use from the Dreamcast to the Toro? VGA?
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May 29, 2016 16:32
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Ambitious Spider posted:Started playing ffvi advance. Still love the game and it's a blast but that audio... I don't remember who posted the link here before so I can't give credit (but thanks!), but there's a patch for that to use the SNES sounds that really does make it much much better.
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May 29, 2016 16:33
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I noticed white Saturns are quite affordable to import from Japan, so I want to buy one. I am in europe right now though, so id need a stepdown converter but pretty much every single one i see on amazon seems to have QC issues. Is there a preferred one for retro consoles?
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Random Stranger posted:I played the Secret of Monkey Island remake the other day. Horrible artwork and animation (I couldn't mash F10 fast enough to switch it to the original graphics), but that audio. Even if you wanted to play it all the way through in the Remake Mode, it's actually impossible to complete one of the puzzles with the Modern UI  Switching mugs to carry Grog to the prison.
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Xenomrph posted:What kind of cable do you use from the Dreamcast to the Toro? VGA? The Toro would replace your VGA box. It's the Dreamcast AV connector on the end if you look at the picture. It has a SCART output that you would connect to your Framemeister however you connect your other SCART connectors for consoles.
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FireMrshlBill posted:The Toro would replace your VGA box. It's the Dreamcast AV connector on the end if you look at the picture. It has a SCART output that you would connect to your Framemeister however you connect your other SCART connectors for consoles. Ohhh okay, I guess I didn't recognize that. Thanks!
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May 29, 2016 17:48
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Random Stranger posted:At least for the GameCube you can just buy a Wii. Run a GBA emulator duh
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Literally The Worst posted:Run a GBA emulator duh Or wait for that plug n play option that is supposed to roll out in the next year that will allow for HDMI output or the use of Wii component cable output from the GC's digital out port.
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FireMrshlBill posted:Or wait for that plug n play option that is supposed to roll out in the next year that will allow for HDMI output or the use of Wii component cable output from the GC's digital out port. The hell of it is that sucker will probably cost less than a legit component cable for the system.
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May 29, 2016 18:37
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fishmech posted:The hell of it is that sucker will probably cost less than a legit component cable for the system. Probably? This is as close to a "definitely" as you can get. I still kick myself for never buying GCN component cables. And all because I used the component input on my tv for my DVD player.
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fishmech posted:The hell of it is that sucker will probably cost less than a legit component cable for the system. Oh it can't be that expens   oh.
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That looks lower than normal, there was a time when they were pushing $400. I hold out the insane hope that one will be in the pile of a/v cables in the back of a thrift store one day. It will never happen but I can dream.
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Is there anyone out there who likes the original Tron arcade game? I know the machines sold extremely well which is why would could find them anywhere, but it plays so poorly. It's essentially Light Cycles and three terrible minigames. Tron isn't the worst arcade machine, but it's the worst one with Tron in the title by a mile...
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Ambitious Spider posted:Started playing ffvi advance. Still love the game and it's a blast but that audio... You can fix it! absolutely anything posted:Remember back in March when we were talking about how the Final Fantasy 6 Advance music restoration patch got totally rebuilt but still replaced the opera scene music with an MP3 and that was insane? Well it just got brought to my attention that last month version 2.1 got released, which added support for the US and JP roms... and THOSE have the original song instead of the MP3 (not the EU rom though, sorry FIGS!). I'm really happy that I can recommend that without reservation now. FF6A with the music and color restoration patches is now 100% the definitive way to play that game.
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XYZ posted:Oh it can't be that expens For some reason Nintendo decided not to put the chip that allows Component Out inside the GameCube itself, so that chip only exists in the component cables themselves, which were only sold online because this was before component out was popular. The cables didn't sell particularly well, so they were discontinued and now that high quality video for video games are in demand, so are those cables.
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Random Stranger posted:Is there anyone out there who likes the original Tron arcade game? I know the machines sold extremely well which is why would could find them anywhere, but it plays so poorly. It's essentially Light Cycles and three terrible minigames. Tron isn't the worst arcade machine, but it's the worst one with Tron in the title by a mile... It looks great, lightcycling is pretty good, tanks could be good with a touch more polish, but it's badly unbalanced and clunky... ...the MCP fight and data spiders (?) stages are absolute horseshit, though. I do like Discs of Tron.
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Wasn't there some kickstarter or project that successfully reverse-engineered the gamecube component cable chip and was going to start producing cables?
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I think the terminal d version is around $150-200 now and you can buy a breakout adapter if you're hard up
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Or you could buy 10 Wiis for that price instead. Or one Wii U and setup Nintendont.
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Elliotw2 posted:Or you could buy 10 Wiis for that price instead. Or one Wii U and setup Nintendont. But, Game Boy Player.
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ChaosArgate posted:For some reason Nintendo decided not to put the chip that allows Component Out inside the GameCube itself, so that chip only exists in the component cables themselves, which were only sold online because this was before component out was popular. The cables didn't sell particularly well, so they were discontinued and now that high quality video for video games are in demand, so are those cables. The reason is so that Nintendo could spend the absolute minimum on GameCube production. This is also why the GameCube doesn't use standard DVD discs or provide DVD playback (and for that matter, why the Wii didn't come with DVD playback). Extreme cheapskating finally started to bite them in the rear end at the tail end of the Wii and with the Wii U, of course.
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I should probably post the handmade VGA output I have hanging off my Dreamcast at some point.
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So my PS2 got yanked off the table and now it won't turn on. Is it safe to assume it's completely hosed?
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mikeycp posted:So my PS2 got yanked off the table and now it won't turn on. Is it safe to assume it's completely hosed? In a general sense, it's possible something internal just wound up unhooked, and if you take it apart and re-hook it up it'll start working again. Might even be salvageable if "broken" by resoldering. It COULD be totally hosed, but it's not 100% certain until you have a look inside. Shrodinger's PS2.
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univbee posted:In a general sense, it's possible something internal just wound up unhooked, and if you take it apart and re-hook it up it'll start working again. Might even be salvageable if "broken" by resoldering. It COULD be totally hosed, but it's not 100% certain until you have a look inside. Shrodinger's PS2. I have it open but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. The only thing that seems out of place is a fuse looking thing that's completely white. e: Not sure what, but it seems something just came unseated because it works now after I poked at a bunch of random stuff. mikeycp fucked around with this message at 01:48 on May 30, 2016 |
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Is there a difference in quality between GC > component and Wii (GC) > component?
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absolutely anything posted:You can fix it! But I'm using the real cart and a gb player to play it on my pvm  Though I guess the obvious answer is to not do that
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Waltzing Along posted:Is there a difference in quality between GC > component and Wii (GC) > component? Slight (and I mean slight) color reproduction difference and it's a little sharper on GameCube.
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Waltzing Along posted:Is there a difference in quality between GC > component and Wii (GC) > component?  wii u wii gc
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liquid courage posted:as far as the hobby is concerned, how is retro gaming going to continue into the 4k era? is hdmi going to become the new output for console mods? are there even any upscalers that work on 4k tvs yet? i'm just curious as i'd like to keep collecting, but it seems like a waste if 1080p monitors are the end point of what can display old 240p and 480p games. i guess in short, how long do you guys expect that the hardware that even supports old games is going to last? This is a good question because a 4k TV is going to be upscaling a 1080p image from the Framemeister. I doubt the Framemeister has the CPU to handle 4k upscaling. If it does, maybe a firmware update will take care of it. If not, we'll be those weird goons looking for 1080p TVs on Craigslist in 20 years.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This is a good question because a 4k TV is going to be upscaling a 1080p image from the Framemeister. I doubt the Framemeister has the CPU to handle 4k upscaling. If it does, maybe a firmware update will take care of it. If not, we'll be those weird goons looking for 1080p TVs on Craigslist in 20 years. To be fair, doubling the width and height is going to be a lot faster than doing the math to get a 240p signal to look right on 1080p. So, there might be some upscaling slowness from 1080p, but if there is, it probably won't be nearly as bad as directly hooking up an NES to a 1080p TV today is.
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Waltzing Along posted:That doesn't look like the Wii U version. Wii/GC look exactly the same, though. It's the Gamecube game running on a Wii U, the HD version wouldn't matter for this comparison. Also the colors on Wii are slightly duller than on GC and the edges are (very very) slightly fuzzier. Ambitious Spider posted:But I'm using the real cart and a gb player to play it on my pvm One of the many important reasons to have a GBA flashcart absolutely anything fucked around with this message at 02:59 on May 30, 2016 |
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This is a good question because a 4k TV is going to be upscaling a 1080p image from the Framemeister. I doubt the Framemeister has the CPU to handle 4k upscaling. If it does, maybe a firmware update will take care of it. If not, we'll be those weird goons looking for 1080p TVs on Craigslist in 20 years. I find it interesting that you forget the obvious answer: within 20 years someone just sells a Framemeister but with 4k support (or 8k support or whatever we're using in 2036). Of course some people will be swearing that 1080p upscaled 240p signals are the purest form in 2036...
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I hope that within 20 years where is some crazy retro guy who tries to make bespoke CRTs. I'm sure it would fail horribly, but with the Chameleon seemingly behind us we need another crazy story to laugh at at some point.
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mikeycp posted:I hope that within 20 years where is some crazy retro guy who tries to make bespoke CRTs. I'm sure it would fail horribly, but with the Chameleon seemingly behind us we need another crazy story to laugh at at some point. There's still plenty of CRT manufacturing equipment around. Some retro nerd who won say $20 million in the lottery could start a factory back up. Hell, they could probably make better CRT sets then most of us used in our childhoods, what with modern circuitry to handle everything tied to the CRT itself. And even beyond that, there's a lot of stock of the CRTs themselves in junkyards around the world, which are still perfectly serviceable. You just need to strap on new controlling circuitry and magnets and you can make "new" CRT sets that are pretty darn good. Rip 'em out of the junky surrounding set they came from and put 'em in new cabinets, load up the back with all the inputs nerds want, and you'll probably get a couple thousand sales a year to people with more money than sense!
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