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ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

So is there any legitimate reason NOT to preorder this? I am not usually one to preorder anything, but seeing as the game is only a couple of weeks away, I'm thinking about it, if only to also get Far Cry 1 for free (because hey, free game!)

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blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

ToastyPotato posted:

So is there any legitimate reason NOT to preorder this? I am not usually one to preorder anything, but seeing as the game is only a couple of weeks away, I'm thinking about it, if only to also get Far Cry 1 for free (because hey, free game!)

I can't really see one. Although Far Cry 1 is so cheap nowadays that it is basically a non-factor.

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009


blackguy32 posted:

I can't really see one. Although Far Cry 1 is so cheap nowadays that it is basically a non-factor.

Wasn't Far Cry 1 released free with advertising on the load screens a couple of years back? or was that some sort of limited offer.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


ToastyPotato posted:

So is there any legitimate reason NOT to preorder this? I am not usually one to preorder anything, but seeing as the game is only a couple of weeks away, I'm thinking about it, if only to also get Far Cry 1 for free (because hey, free game!)

Far Cry 1 only comes with the deluxe edition preorder. The deluxe edition includes these DLC:

quote:

  • The Monkey Business Pack: Meet Hurk and his explosive bomb-carrying monkey in four heart-pounding missions and get two bonus ways to humiliate your friends in multiplayer.

  • The Lost Expeditions: Discover the secrets of the islandís lost World War II ruins in two suspenseful action missions, and unlock the power of a shotgun in a one-handed flare gun in multiplayer.

  • The Warrior Pack: Strike fear in your enemies with an exclusive dagger and get an early unlock of the tattoo editor in multiplayer.

  • The Predator Pack: Hunt four ferocious animals with the M-700 Predator Rifle in single-player and silently kill opponents with the unlocked Predator Bow in multiplayer.

  • The Survival Guide artbook (pdf file): Discover unique artwork and insider information to help you survive the insanity of the island.

  • The game soundtrack

If I had to price these DLC for post-release, I'd say that they would cost (in order) $9.99, $5.99, $0.99, and $1.99. If ever sold separately, the soundtrack would probably cost $9.99; although, digital soundtracks are almost always in a lossy format (i.e., mp3.) I don't think artbooks are ever sold outside of deluxe editions unless they're printed. So, the deluxe edition looks like the best deal to me.

Note: I've barely played Far Cry 2 and never played Far Cry 1, but I think Far Cry 3 has gone in a great direction based on the one video I watched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVuF3IWSSA

And I'm building a new desktop, triggered by this game's "hi performance" requirements.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

I got heavily involved after watching the E3 2011 conference video. The one where you see the pirates executing people by tossing them in the water with cinderblocks attached to them.

If there is one thing I dislike about the game is that the main protagonist just seems like a weenie. There is a difference between average Joe and someone who just doesn't fit at all.

Leb
Jan 15, 2004


Change came to America on November the 4th, 2008, in the form of an unassuming Senator from the state of Illinois.


This might be of interest to persons who like games, devices upon which to store games and misunderstood sociopaths.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PC...ller,19194.html

In summary, 170 buxx for a 250 gig SSD and a 'free' copy of Far Cry 3.

Mazed
Oct 23, 2010



I can't quite tell if this game is wanting to be pulpy and satirical, or shock-value exploitation murderporn that comes off as lowbrow pandering without a shred of good judgment, masquerading as "adult" but in reality just wallowing in trashiness.

I hope it's the former. This game looks like it could be extremely memorable and with a ton of personality, that hopefully doesn't get undermined by adolescent garbage.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

Mazed posted:

I can't quite tell if this game is wanting to be pulpy and satirical, or shock-value exploitation murderporn that comes off as lowbrow pandering without a shred of good judgment, masquerading as "adult" but in reality just wallowing in trashiness.

I hope it's the former. This game looks like it could be extremely memorable and with a ton of personality, that hopefully doesn't get undermined by adolescent garbage.

If it is like Far Cry 2, it will be shooting for the former, while really not achieving it at all. The narrative in that game sounded like it was trying to make a coherent point but in the end, it all felt like garbage. However, the part where Your previous "friends" try to kill you was genius.

Mazed
Oct 23, 2010



blackguy32 posted:

If it is like Far Cry 2, it will be shooting for the former, while really not achieving it at all. The narrative in that game sounded like it was trying to make a coherent point but in the end, it all felt like garbage. However, the part where Your previous "friends" try to kill you was genius.

Yeah, that's what I kind of see happening. A lot of the dev talks have been all about how they're trying to perfectly capture desperation and insanity and all that, yet most of the promo stuff, especially that box art, looks about as tongue-in-cheek as it gets. With decent writing they could still send a 'message', if they really wanted to, but trying to actually make this all grim edgy seriousness could not end well.

Bilal
Feb 20, 2012



Mazed posted:

I can't quite tell if this game is wanting to be pulpy and satirical, or shock-value exploitation murderporn that comes off as lowbrow pandering without a shred of good judgment, masquerading as "adult" but in reality just wallowing in trashiness.

I hope it's the former. This game looks like it could be extremely memorable and with a ton of personality, that hopefully doesn't get undermined by adolescent garbage.

Far Cry 2 was about horrible conflicts and bloodshed in third world shitholes and the people who perpetuate them for their own profit, including the player character. I slogged my way through the entire game and even managed to finish it. Everything plot-wise and theme-wise in that game was handled pretty well.

I'm not sure why you'd get the idea that FC3 will be either of those two things based on the promotional material we've seen so far and the previous game.

Busta Chimes.wav
Mar 18, 2009


Mazed posted:

I can't quite tell if this game is wanting to be pulpy and satirical, or shock-value exploitation murderporn that comes off as lowbrow pandering without a shred of good judgment, masquerading as "adult" but in reality just wallowing in trashiness.

I hope it's the former. This game looks like it could be extremely memorable and with a ton of personality, that hopefully doesn't get undermined by adolescent garbage.

Watch the multiplayer preview where they demonstrate post-match torturing and executing the best player on the losing team. Gave me a pretty good idea of what FC3 is all about.

Ace Oliveira
Dec 27, 2009

"I wonder if there is beer on the sun."


Mazed posted:

Yeah, that's what I kind of see happening. A lot of the dev talks have been all about how they're trying to perfectly capture desperation and insanity and all that, yet most of the promo stuff, especially that box art, looks about as tongue-in-cheek as it gets. With decent writing they could still send a 'message', if they really wanted to, but trying to actually make this all grim edgy seriousness could not end well.

I remember reading a article about how the developters were making the game as sort of a commentary on FPS games. The guy who wrote it mentioned the definition of insanity monologue reminding him of the Call of Duty games in that context. I just can't find the article now.

bef
Mar 2, 2010



Leb posted:

This might be of interest to persons who like games, devices upon which to store games and misunderstood sociopaths.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PC...ller,19194.html

In summary, 170 buxx for a 250 gig SSD and a 'free' copy of Far Cry 3.

Also if you decide to buy a hd 7850

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16814161405

wheezy360
Mar 8, 2006


Live stream going on up in here.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/11/...m_medium=social

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


odark thirty posted:

Watch the multiplayer preview where they demonstrate post-match torturing and executing the best player on the losing team. Gave me a pretty good idea of what FC3 is all about.

Seriously? That's like judging Assassin's Creed 3 on the basis of its multiplayer component, or Quake 2 on its campaign.

Aliginge
Dec 16, 2004

Game Artist, Airsofter, Pepsi Max addict, not good with computers.


Ah, ace. Ubisoft decided to include my number one turn-off feature ina multiplayer shooter.

Peer to Peer hosting on PC.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/21434...icated-servers/

quote:

Ubisoft has confirmed that Far Cry 3 PC will not support dedicated servers for multiplayer at launch. News of this comes from the official forums, where a user asked what sort of features the multiplayer would support on PC, referring to Far Cry 2's overall lack in this department. Community manager "MSV-Vextor" eventually responded, "The online experience does not support dedicated servers."

In another post, he went on to explain:

"Of course we are not trying to kill the pc community. We have simply decided on a different way of handling multiplayer. We weighed the different options against each other to see what worked best, and what we came up with worked very well even without DS's."

Vextor also noted that the lack of dedicated servers has nothing to do with piracy concerns. According to the community manager, the game's maps will be saved via cloud, and Far Cry 3's Hosting Migration function should transfer hosting to another player if the original host drops.

From what I've seen I'll be fine skipping MP on this one, I'm really in this for the SP and the Coop.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010


Yeah, if there's one thing I don't give a poo poo about in the Far Cry games, it's their multiplayer aspect.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.


I am done with progression based multiplayer. I don't even factor it into my buying decisions anymore.

Gunder
May 21, 2003

97.5 The Brodeo


Just watched the walkthrough video they did a while back on Gamespot. This game looks promising! If they manage to take the good ideas from 2 and actually execute them well this time then Far Cry 3 could really be awesome.

Aliginge
Dec 16, 2004

Game Artist, Airsofter, Pepsi Max addict, not good with computers.


Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I am done with progression based multiplayer. I don't even factor it into my buying decisions anymore.

In my case if I want a hitscan MP shootmans then it's gonna have to be far better than the current Treyarch CoD to drag me away. No dedicated servers in this cripples it right out of the gate for me.

And err Planetside 2 just came out so lol im out


EDIT: Enough bitching from me, the SP and coop look rad as gently caress and pretty much make this a day 1 purchase for me.

Aliginge fucked around with this message at Nov 20, 2012 around 21:20

Payndz
Sep 22, 2006

Your friend and protege,
Tom Copperfield.


Eh, I'm on PS3 and while peer-to-peer servers have their downsides, I can put up with them much better than the bullshit that ensued when EA introduced dedicated rent-a-servers for BF3. After a couple of days of 'killed by admin' messages and being randomly team-swapped or kicked because I wasn't playing the way some little Napoleon demanded, I traded the game in. It just wasn't fun.

On consoles, the playing field might be at the lowest level, but at least it is level.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Well, minor disappointment with the MP there but I was mostly interested in the SP and possibly COOP anyway.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010


AI plays along with my fantasy of being a delusional Vietnam vet hunting men in the jungle with a bow and arrow. Actual people, not so much. The first time I see somebody doing that weird standing/prone worm thing, the illusion is ruined.

Busta Chimes.wav
Mar 18, 2009


Adraeus posted:

Seriously? That's like judging Assassin's Creed 3 on the basis of its multiplayer component, or Quake 2 on its campaign.

The guy I quoted was asking about the tone and political content of the game, and based on the preview I mentioned it looks like this game will be pretty abhorrent in that area. The fact that that sort of thing shows up in multiplayer, which could just as easily be a competent FPS without the bothersome humiliation aspect, actually makes me more worried about the single player content.

ClownSyndrome
Sep 2, 2011

Do you think love can bloom on bob-omb Battlefield?


10/10 from Eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ar-cry-3-review

Pluskut Tukker
May 20, 2012


Rock Paper Shotgun is pretty enthusiastic too.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

FLAVA FLAV!!!!!


Holy poo poo! That is rare for Eurogamer. They usually give out 8/10 and 7/10s. I guess that extra 2 months of polish paid off.

Attention Horse
Jan 5, 2012

Yo man, you are out of step with Imhotep!


God drat, FC3 gets some really good scores. Surprise hit of the year? Why all the reviews came out a week before the release, now I can't wait to play it .

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

I think I am going to go pay off my preorder today. Either that or cancel it and go for the deluxe edition, although I rather have it on disc.

Tatum Girlparts
Sep 8, 2011

More like Tantrum Girlparts!
I can't be smug if I never stop whining.



ToastyPotato posted:

So is there any legitimate reason NOT to preorder this? I am not usually one to preorder anything, but seeing as the game is only a couple of weeks away, I'm thinking about it, if only to also get Far Cry 1 for free (because hey, free game!)

I guess if you hate fun, you shouldn't preorder this, it'll make you very angry.

I got my preorder paid and am amped as hell to use a tiger to kill pirates and then set the tiger on fire because I need his skin to make a holster.

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"


I am suddenly very excited. I had great concerns that this was going to a linear drudge fest but it seems to be just as open as Far Cry 2 but with more fleshed out mechanics.

I can't wait.

A tiger rolling down a hill.

Forever.

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...

Sweet Jesus. This sounds like everything that Far Cry 2 was but with it's flaws removed and everything else improved. Gonna wait for confirmation that the PC port is solid, but otherwise this sounds like a day one purchase for me.

Captain Novolin
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.


kuddles posted:

Sweet Jesus. This sounds like everything that Far Cry 2 was but with it's flaws removed and everything else improved. Gonna wait for confirmation that the PC port is solid, but otherwise this sounds like a day one purchase for me.

RPS has a thing up.

There's apparently been a few CTDs, but it's otherwise been fine.

Adraeus
Jan 25, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I almost upgraded to my new Far Cry 3-ready system last night. I had everything assembled and ready to go, but the motherboard was DOA! RMA'd. So, I guess I'll get my replacement board along with, I hope, my fixed GTX 560 Ti in one to two weeks. In the meantime, Assassin's Creed 3 and Hitman: Absolution appear to run just fine with a 2.5 Ghz CPU and a GTS 250.

Also, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus is HUGE! To install the fan on the MSI Z77A-GD55 motherboard, I'd have to reverse the fan to pull air from the other side of the heatsink because the fourth RAM module nearest the CPU would not otherwise fit. The Antec 302 Mid Tower is amazing though, so the CPU fan is not really necessary because of the case's airflow. There is a 140mm exhaust fan on top of the case, a 120mm fan on the rear, a 120mm intake fan behind the CPU, and a 120mm fan on the side for the expansion cards.

Finally, if you're thinking about upgrading your system and you have a PCI card, newer motherboards don't have PCI slots. You'll need to buy a StarTech PCI Express to PCI Adapter Card or just a new PCI Express card. I bought the adapter card because I have pro audio requirements and pro audio cards are really expensive.

I'm probably most excited by the RAM upgrade though. I have 8GB of DDR2 PC2-6400 (400 Mhz) RAM in my current HP system. I'm curious about how much better will 16GB of DDR3 PC3-12800 (1.6 Ghz) perform.

Lord Tywin
Oct 3, 2012


I have one question that decides if I will perorder this, is there a mode in multiplayer where you and other human players have to defend against wave after wave of tigers?

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

I got tired of seeing Louis' text here, so instead you get this duck. I put some of it in gold and this part would love some crackers.

~SMcD

Am I the only person that has looked at every Far Cry game to date and just thought: ok fighting mercenary factions, cool, now add dinosaurs.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Rhymenoserous posted:

Am I the only person that has looked at every Far Cry game to date and just thought: ok fighting mercenary factions, cool, now add dinosaurs.

A remake of Carnivore on the Far Cry engine you say?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

Flying the friendly skies in relative safet-oh god the engine fell off


Rhymenoserous posted:

Am I the only person that has looked at every Far Cry game to date and just thought: ok fighting mercenary factions, cool, now add dinosaurs.

Nobody wants Far Cry 1 again.

DONT CARE BUTTON
Jul 5, 2004



Rhymenoserous posted:

Am I the only person that has looked at every Far Cry game to date and just thought: ok fighting mercenary factions, cool, now add dinosaurs.

I really liked the trigens in the first game and never understood why so many people hated them, but I hope there is some kind of cool secret monsters that show up during the game as a total surprise.

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Xoidanor
Feb 17, 2011


Party Plane Jones posted:

Nobody wants Far Cry 1 again.

There are dinosaurs after the mutant monkeys? Man I stopped playing to early.

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