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Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.


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be nice wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Bowl Eligible


Button (672) outscored Hamilton (657) in the three years they were teammates.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012


serious gaylord posted:

Finally watching the race, and Massa slowing Webber down so Alonso could overtake them both on the first corner was stunning. Some of the best team driving I've seen.

Some great Jolly Cooperation from Massa.

Sebastian Vettel
Jul 1, 2012

A ring ding ding ding ding


gently caress off wicka posted:

Button (672) outscored Hamilton (657) in the three years they were teammates.

Yeah but Our Lewis morally outscored our Jense.

But seriously, Jenson has proved that he's not some one hit wonder these part few years. This season wasn't his best but 2011 was probably his best season ever. He'll easily boss Checo next year.

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

my boys


Yeah Jenson is probably pretty happy Lewis left, I have a feeling Perez will be Heikki 2.0.

be nice wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Bowl Eligible


El Hefe posted:

Yeah Jenson is probably pretty happy Lewis left, I have a feeling Perez will be Heikki 2.0.

The last time this thread compared an incoming McLaren driver to Heikki...we were talking about Jenson.

enri
Dec 15, 2003

A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy. Never forget, never forgive.


front wing flexing posted:

I don't understand that one at all. I was an American sailor for ten years and I've been to Hong Kong countless times and got nothing but love in from the English in the pubs.

Are you 6' 4" and built like a brick shithouse? That might go some way to explaining it.

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

my boys


gently caress off wicka posted:

The last time this thread compared an incoming McLaren driver to Heikki...we were talking about Jenson.

Yeah and those people were idiots, I've always defended Jenson.

djssniper
Jan 10, 2003



gently caress off wicka posted:

The last time this thread compared an incoming McLaren driver to Heikki...we were talking about Jenson.

Comparing a WDC to basically an Irvine?

nsaP
May 4, 2004

Yeah, they make cars too.


http://blog.axisofoversteer.com/201...hip-stolen.html

Skip the video to 10:30 for the offending pass, not the legit passes.

Carbonate
Aug 2, 2005


There was a green flag drivers right at pit exit. Number of lights don't necessarily coincide with the number of stations! There's only 16-18 FIA lights in Montreal, and 21 stations. In some places they are before or after a certain station. The real cloth flags are all correct, and the pass was very legal.



You had two 'single waved yellow' lights prior to the incident (If it's a double waved, it flashes twice as fast, and is actually pretty obvious) which in a blind entry type corner is pretty standard. Why there was a light after the incident i'm not sure, but the lights honestly do a few weird things at times, and race control can override them at any time for whatever reason.

There is at least one station with real flags at the pit exit, and another at the entry to T4. During that same area of track (exit T3 to Entry T4) there is only the one (flashing green) light. If you press the "single waved" button on the controller for the light and you are at light station 1, the very next light station will automatically switch to green without that marshal pressing any buttons.

SO you have more stations with real flags than with the lights, Vettel passed a green flag (at drivers right at pit exit) indicating the incident and track was in the previous sector, thus KERS/DRS/floors it and we're good.

Carbonate fucked around with this message at Nov 28, 2012 around 01:39

marsisol
Mar 29, 2010


Nope, Vettel sucks and is a cheater. Your wrong! Facts?? What facts?!

This poo poo has been all over the place all day.

Carbonate
Aug 2, 2005


marsisol posted:

Nope, Vettel sucks and is a cheater. Your wrong! Facts?? What facts?!

This poo poo has been all over the place all day.

I know. It's really annoying. They (and hell, me. I do race control at a club level as well as marshal) take passing under yellows very loving seriously and they basically never miss one with all the cameras and gps and 300+ marshals trackside who ALSO take it pretty loving seriously.

I had a bike go down and ended up within about 5 feet of where i was standing while I was trackside doing intervention because he hosed up a pass under yellows a few years ago. I can tell you the reason for the rule isn't at ALL for the safety of the drivers.

Carbonate fucked around with this message at Nov 28, 2012 around 01:48

nsaP
May 4, 2004

Yeah, they make cars too.


marsisol posted:

Nope, Vettel sucks and is a cheater. Your wrong! Facts?? What facts?!

This poo poo has been all over the place all day.
Are you alright?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


No, Charlie hosed up. He missed this one. Vettel is literally Hitler.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012


I doubt the FIA will miss it when even the broadcasters caught it.

ClubmanGT
Nov 3, 2005

The Lion King


Not even investigating the first lap poo poo basically set the tone, Hunklebert was hard done by.

Amoan
Nov 4, 2009

LIGHTS!

skooma512 posted:

Some great Jolly Cooperation from Massa.

Alonso: "Praise the sun!"

Brownie
Jul 21, 2007
The Croatian Sensation

If only Massa could be so grossly incandescent, like Alonso.

keevo
Jun 16, 2011


Jesus. People will not give up this whole Vettel passing under yellow flags thing. This guy made a 12 minute video saying how he's found another pass made by Vettel under yellow conditions. The first 10 minutes are him showing how the passes of the HRT & Kobayashi were legal because there wasn't any yellow flag indicator on the steering wheel nor were there any "no passing" yellow flags on the wall lights. This other pass is how he passed a Toro Rosso right before T4 and less than 50m before the green light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFER0esusF0#t=695s

Dubs
Mar 6, 2007

Chillin'


newey won

get over

hes gonna win next year too

Carbonate
Aug 2, 2005


keevo posted:

Jesus. People will not give up this whole Vettel passing under yellow flags thing. This guy made a 12 minute video saying how he's found another pass made by Vettel under yellow conditions. The first 10 minutes are him showing how the passes of the HRT & Kobayashi were legal because there wasn't any yellow flag indicator on the steering wheel nor were there any "no passing" yellow flags on the wall lights. This other pass is how he passed a Toro Rosso right before T4 and less than 50m before the green light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFER0esusF0#t=695s

He's wrong in many many ways.

ClubmanGT
Nov 3, 2005

The Lion King


Hahah this poo poo doesn't end (torro rosso pass mentioned above)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZHaBuaA9oQ

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Yep, still me @ ur poasting


F1 Offseason Worst Thread: Post your fave Youtube video showing Vettel cheating

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents


You Am I posted:

F1 Offseason Worst Thread: Post your fave Youtube video showing Vettel cheating

I already did. RIP DRS sign.

AgentJotun
Nov 1, 2007


Whats most embarrassing about that video is how the Toro Rosso almost comes to a stop to let Vettel through despite looking like he had a really nice tow from the car in front.

ClubmanGT
Nov 3, 2005

The Lion King


AgentJotun posted:

Whats most embarrassing about that video is how the Toro Rosso almost comes to a stop to let Vettel through despite looking like he had a really nice tow from the car in front.

I think the brilliant thing about it is Vettel on the KERS in the yellow zone which is probably perfectly fine but makes the least sense out of all this bullshit.

keevo
Jun 16, 2011


Someone should make a tumblr called tifositears and post all the crying about Vettel winning.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

You think you can outrun my knives?



Oh well guys, only 108 days until the Melborne!


Daveh
Jan 18, 2005

You know what? You know what you're putting into our bodies? Death! Delicious, strawberry-flavored death!


BOTTAS.

Also Maldonado confirmed for Williams in 2013.

Brainwrong
Mar 20, 2004

RIP Bobby K
Poland's Rose. Like a cabbage in the wind.


Daveh posted:

BOTTAS.

Also Maldonado confirmed for Williams in 2013.

Can someone explain the whole "BOTTAS" thing?

Throughout the year various F1 journalists would keep putting "BOTTAS!" on their Tweets whenever he was driving. I never got it and felt I was missing out on a joke (probably an unfunny joke, but I still felt like the uncool kid)

Daveh
Jan 18, 2005

You know what? You know what you're putting into our bodies? Death! Delicious, strawberry-flavored death!


It started at Autosport after a ridiculously large headline just shouted "BOTTAS" on a Euro F3 feature.

skander
Apr 17, 2003



keevo posted:

Jesus. People will not give up this whole Vettel passing under yellow flags thing.

They're F1's version of 'birthers'.

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

Using the highly dubious method of paralleling Alonso's career to Schumacher's, he should be due five championships in a row starting next year, before retiring in 2018, before coming back in 2021 having bought HRT or something

Riso
Oct 11, 2008


Alonso F1.

I like it.

Midyett
Dec 13, 2006

How many goons does it take to screw

Reddit delivers again on the only thing it's good for.

Cjones
Jul 4, 2008

Democracia Socrates, MD


Midyett posted:

Reddit delivers again on the only thing it's good for.

I love that this is considered some really great community full of outstanding insight...

be nice wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Bowl Eligible


Midyett posted:

Reddit delivers again on the only thing it's good for.



Bad.

gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


Midyett posted:

Reddit delivers again on the only thing it's good for.



People care way too much about some stupid middling paint scheme.

gret fucked around with this message at Nov 28, 2012 around 19:29

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly representing vanilla Legends since 1994


Midyett posted:

Reddit delivers again on the only thing it's good for.



Well, it's topless and less than 18 years old, so I guess you're right.

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