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belgend
Mar 6, 2008

me when The Club do another win

DOOP posted:

Here is the 100 list for 2013. Players are born on or after 1/1/91. At first glance, no Jack Wilshere seems odd (though given his injury issues, eh.) Also, England has only two players, which is lacking compared to all of the other "big" nations.

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2012/12/19/the-ibwm-100-for-2013.html

That's an awful list for Belgium that.

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Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

Vegetable posted:

Will Milan actually play that kid? It'd be awesome to see a 15 year old in Serie A.

No, he won't play. More than likely he'll play on the primavera side (youth team) and get called up for the bench in some extraordinary circumstance if necessary. I hope he's actually good Ina few years.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Surprised Veratti isn't on that list

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

Ewar Woowar posted:

Surprised Veratti isn't on that list

He should be, also Ciro Immobile.

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



And Mattia Perin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzieANbTlLc

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
To be fair Perin and Immobile are both on some really bad teams at the moment, but there's no excuse for Verratti.

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



In my opinion the fact that he's on a bad team makes Perin more worthy of being on lists, he's behind a really poo poo defense.

GD have you seen Niang much? I'm hearing some good comments about him but haven't really had a chance to watch him.

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

Drogadon posted:

In my opinion the fact that he's on a bad team makes Perin more worthy of being on lists, he's behind a really poo poo defense.

GD have you seen Niang much? I'm hearing some good comments about him but haven't really had a chance to watch him.

That's a good point - he gets a lot of opportunities to display his talent, heh.

Every time Niang has played for Milan (all 2 or 3 of them) he's been good; scoring in the Coppa Italia even. I didn't see him in France at all, but he definitely looks like he knows what he's doing and he's got a great shot on him. If Robinho leaves in January we'll see more of him.

Riotgrrill
Sep 3, 2004

I hope it's okay to bump a week old thread but I've been meaning to post this ever since I saw the thread.

Don Balon was a Spanish magazine that yearly published the 100 best upcoming talents in the world, since its dissolution due to the economic crisis (and a scandel that had one of its lead editors arrested) the website 101 Great Goals has taken its place in creating the list so here's the 2011 and 2012 Don Balon list.

I've also found the 2008 and 2001 lists where you're equally able to find a failure as a success.

Riotgrrill fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Dec 27, 2012

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
I didn't realise that Gotze is only 20, bloody hell.

Nice to see Caulker getting some recognition.

s0meb0dy0
Feb 27, 2004

The death of a child is always a tragedy, but let's put this in perspective, shall we? I mean they WERE palestinian.
11 years old is pretty young to make a list it seems.

But if half those barcelona players pan out, there is going to be a serious lack of available minutes in the midfield and up front. And we'll still need to buy defenders.

mrbo
Apr 4, 2008

5 of the top ten in that list played for Liverpool. Also John Welsh at 14 heh.

euroboy
Mar 24, 2004

Wenger said Jermaine Pennant could be better than Beckham iirc. And lol at Bendtner ranking higher than Fabregas in 2008.

Hegay
Jun 29, 2012

MrBling posted:

All in all, the declining economic health of the domestic league has meant that clubs are using more youth players so they're getting better and also becoming more visible. I could easily find another 5-7 players to write about but this is probably already long enough as it is. And I doubt anyone really cares.

No love for Nicolai Jørgensen? Pretty much been the deciding factor for FCK in most of their games. He has been scoring so many beautiful goals in this season so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jTfBL8NCPg
This one as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3cTce7CzYk&t=17s

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012
The Golden Boy 2012 award has been rewarded some time ago. Just a bunch of journalists from 11 different newspapers deciding which footballer under 21 year had the msot impressive year.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/12/22/3621286/isco-wins-tuttosports-golden-boy-award

Results:
1) Isco
2) El Shaarawy
3) Courtois

Pretty logical result.

Modus Trollens
Sep 12, 2010

s0meb0dy0 posted:

11 years old is pretty young to make a list it seems.

But if half those barcelona players pan out, there is going to be a serious lack of available minutes in the midfield and up front. And we'll still need to buy defenders.

defenders are so 2010

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012

Modus Trollens posted:

defenders are so 2010

Personally, I have the impression that defenders really need experience to become good. Of course, strikers and such also need experience, but for those offensive players great technical ability can make up for that. Defenders on the other hand really need to know where to be and how to react and that's just something that takes time to learn.

Also, defenders need to be strong/big, which is something that takes time to improve as well.

As such, there aren't that many defenders that are already great at a very young age.

Modus Trollens
Sep 12, 2010

Walh Hara posted:

Personally, I have the impression that defenders really need experience to become good. Of course, strikers and such also need experience, but for those offensive players great technical ability can make up for that. Defenders on the other hand really need to know where to be and how to react and that's just something that takes time to learn.

Also, defenders need to be strong/big, which is something that takes time to improve as well.

As such, there aren't that many defenders that are already great at a very young age.

Agreed. Just watching Caulker this year, he is obviously very technically gifted but sometimes he just isn't in the right place.

Great on corners/freekicks in the box though, got a head on him. (attacking I mean)

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005


:lol:Eddie Johnson and Santino Quaranta:lol:

It's amazing how many players on that list don't even have a wikipedia page, nearly everyone who's ever touched a football professionally has one.

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?
As an arsenal fan, the biggest crime is no Oxade Chaimberlain.

Joel Campbell looks like a good prospect, but how does he make it into the list while The Ox doesn't? Of all the arsenal players on the list only Wilshere excites me more than him.

Hegay
Jun 29, 2012

French Football Weekly "Le50" is a pretty good read when it comes to prospects from Ligue 1. Although it's almost a year old now and hopefully they'll update it soon.

http://frenchfootballweekly.com/download/Le50.pdf

Messyass
Dec 23, 2003

DOOP posted:

Here is the 100 list for 2013. Players are born on or after 1/1/91. At first glance, no Jack Wilshere seems odd (though given his injury issues, eh.) Also, England has only two players, which is lacking compared to all of the other "big" nations.

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2012/12/19/the-ibwm-100-for-2013.html

As far as the Eredivisie is concerned:
Viktor Fischer is missing but Luc Castaignos is included? :lol:

Tomáš Kalas looks a very solid defender for his age and Bruno Martins Indi looks like he could make it big as well.

But since defenders don't make for good highlight clips:

Jordy Clasie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhX_OfBheQ0

Adam Maher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLwJ1ZFEm-I

Filip Đuričić:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxc_NoU3sWE

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Tomas Kalas is amazing in FM

flyingkiwi
Jun 1, 2012

Wowzers!
This bloke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Rojas

High hopes. High hopes. Here are some goals that he scored:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148OKQB3pPU

Mind you, he hosed off to Melbourne, the Judas.

vickser
Dec 27, 2012
Bunch of Spaniards and Germans basically... future bottlers amirite guys?

How about up and coming keepers? It never seems like there's enough good ones.

I know Bernd Leno, Ron-Robert Zieler, and Marc Andre Ter Stegen off the top of my head. Who else is out there?

Mean Bean Machine
May 9, 2008

Only when I breathe.
The NextGen thing is still going on, Sporting just beat Liverpool 4-0 in the round of 16.

Modus Trollens
Sep 12, 2010

Mean Bean Machine posted:

The NextGen thing is still going on, Sporting just beat Liverpool 4-0 in the round of 16.

Spurs have had off PSG (in paris) on penalties, 4-3.

Big lad up front and cool named spur Shaq Coulthirst scored our only goal (hes our best u19 attacking player is what I've gathered)

Villa also had off Ajax, and Chelsea had off Barca (I wonder if a human mop without confidence scored?)

Nis
Feb 21, 2011

:allears:

Mean Bean Machine posted:

The NextGen thing is still going on, Sporting just beat Liverpool 4-0 in the round of 16.

They thrashed us twice last year too, and we bought one of their 19-year olds after (Joao Texeira).

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_NextGen_Series

Match Reports: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/match/fixtures/reserves/liverpool-reserves-v-sporting-lisbon-7774/last-match-report

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/match/fixtures/reserves/sporting-lisbon-v-liverpool-reserves-7779/last-match-report

Wisdom and Sterling were in both of those matches, and Shelvey was in the 0-3 performance. Sporting's U21's are still ridiculous.

rats off to ya
Jul 22, 2008

Mean Bean Machine posted:

The NextGen thing is still going on, Sporting just beat Liverpool 4-0 in the round of 16.

10-boy Chelsea embarrassed Barcelona at the mini-estadio 2-0 today. To the quarter-finals we go. The draw for the next round is Friday

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



Is the next Bryan Ruiz or Chope here? Who knows?

Costa Rica - Haiti U-20 is about to start http://www.repretel.com/envivo-6

This is for the CONCACAF U-20 championships http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_CONCACAF_U-20_Championship

Players to watch:

Erick Cabalceta: defender scouted by Catania
Gabriel Leiva: midfielder scouted by River Plate
John Jairo Ruiz: forward playing in the Belgian second division for Mouscron-Péruwelz

Mean Bean Machine
May 9, 2008

Only when I breathe.
Teams that have moved on to the semis of the NextGen Series are Chelsea, Aston Villa, Sporting (beat Tottenham) and the winner of Arsenal/CSKA. Good show from English teams this year.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Not one of those Chelsea players will ever play for the first team

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Villa :getin:

Modus Trollens
Sep 12, 2010

Mean Bean Machine posted:

Teams that have moved on to the semis of the NextGen Series are Chelsea, Aston Villa, Sporting (beat Tottenham) and the winner of Arsenal/CSKA. Good show from English teams this year.

Spurs came back from 3-1 down to equalize in the 95th minute only to lose 5-3 in extra time, the second of which was a 45 yard howler apparently

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
I remember when Ryan Babel tore it up at youth level in the same tournament as Messi.

Actually, this is pretty interesting.

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

Chas McGill posted:

I remember when Ryan Babel tore it up at youth level in the same tournament as Messi.

Actually, this is pretty interesting.

Man, what the gently caress happened to Collins John? He just had his contract terminated by Barnet.

ma i married a tuna
Apr 24, 2005

Numbers add up to nothing
Pillbug

Shrapnac posted:

Man, what the gently caress happened to Collins John? He just had his contract terminated by Barnet.

Basically, a long string of disciplinary problems. I once read an article that talked about how he moved from Liberia (I think?)at an early age and had some horrifying war experiences. His little brother Ola John is doing ok at Benfica now, but it looks like Collins' career is ending prematurely.

GMEEOORH
Mar 12, 2012

Chas McGill posted:

I remember when Ryan Babel tore it up at youth level in the same tournament as Messi.
Nah mate, that was Quincy Owuso-Abeyie. That Japan game was a ridiculously good performance.
http://youtu.be/U2gid1DohVA

Babel was part of that dutch side as well, but he didn't do much. It was the youth euros a couple of years later where he impressed.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Modus Trollens posted:

the second of which was a 45 yard howler apparently
by howler do you mean golaço? one of the craziest strikes i've seen in quite some time

http://youtu.be/w9rTmb2nf6w

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Messyass
Dec 23, 2003

Chas McGill posted:

I remember when Ryan Babel tore it up at youth level in the same tournament as Messi.

Actually, this is pretty interesting.

Look at Graziano Pelle up there. Looks like he's finally living up to expectations in the Eredivisie aka Failed Striker Rehabilitation Station.

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