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Pantology
Jan 16, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

NippleFloss posted:

There are no books out for the NV yet and the newest version of the test is relatively new, so studying will be a bit of a challenge. You have to piece together information from various blogs that have material.

You'll also need to have a lab, and the resource requirements for the edge appliances, controllers and manager are somewhat steep for a home lab. You may also run into weird issues trying to do a nested lab, or at least I have, probably due to the many layers of encapsulation.

I found the Hands-On Labs and documentation to be sufficient for the earlier version of the exam.

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crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Lx0 104 down, not as hard as I anticipated. A lot easier to study for due to almost all of the material being distro neutral, unlike the 103

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

crunk dork posted:

Lx0 104 down, not as hard as I anticipated. A lot easier to study for due to almost all of the material being distro neutral, unlike the 103

Hm, I was wondering where Linux+ fell in the hierarchy of CompTIA exams as far as renewals are concerned, and it looks like it's just out on its own island.

https://certification.comptia.org/continuing-education/how-to-renew/renewing-multiple-certifications

Looks like I'll have the option of retaking Security+, doing CASP, or not giving a poo poo about CompTIA in 3 years (this is the most likely). Not spending time on that CEU stuff.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Hm, I was wondering where Linux+ fell in the hierarchy of CompTIA exams as far as renewals are concerned, and it looks like it's just out on its own island.

https://certification.comptia.org/continuing-education/how-to-renew/renewing-multiple-certifications

Looks like I'll have the option of retaking Security+, doing CASP, or not giving a poo poo about CompTIA in 3 years (this is the most likely). Not spending time on that CEU stuff.

drat that sucks. I assumed it renewed Sec+, I've still got 2 years and some change left on mine thankfully. I'd rather get a new cert than retest or give a gently caress about CE so hopefully there is something neat to take in the future.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Could always take cloud+ lol

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
why the gently caress did comptia even MAKE these certs? they have zero market value

Contingency
Jun 2, 2007

MURDERER

crunk dork posted:

Could always take cloud+ lol

I was asked to take the Cloud+ exam when it was in beta; even secondhand knowledge of virtualization would get you pretty close to passing.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM
An offer of employment was extended to me today :yotj:

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.

Contingency posted:

I was asked to take the Cloud+ exam when it was in beta; even secondhand knowledge of virtualization would get you pretty close to passing.

I've been reading bits and pieces of the Cloud+ study guide I bought and sat there wondering if CompTIA had just bummed a bunch of stuff off the VCP. I'm only doing it exactly because I have no interest in trying to finish up all the CEUs I'd need to renew Sec+ and thought Cloud+ would at least be informative.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

An offer of employment was extended to me today :yotj:

Congrats! :cheers:

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006

Contingency posted:

I was asked to take the Cloud+ exam when it was in beta; even secondhand knowledge of virtualization would get you pretty close to passing.

I might look into that then, I'm by no means a virtualization specialist but I've got an OK idea of the high level concepts, which seems to be the thing that most CompTIA exams are looking for.

quicksand
Nov 21, 2002

A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.
Cert related part of this post:
Thank god the 640-544 is dead in 4 days. gently caress that cert. Bunch of last minute changes to the exam adding stuff not in the official cert guides and things from the CCNP Security: Firewall and VPN exams on it >:|


But once I passed that bad boy it got me 6 credit hours for school. The only thing i had left was my WGU Capstone and I submitted it on Tuesday and it was accepted and passed last night!
:whatup:

30 years old and I finally got a degree. Feels good.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

quicksand posted:

30 years old and I finally got a degree. Feels good.

OH MAN YOU SURE ARE OLDDDD!!!

all shitposting aside, there are WAY older people in school (i'll likely be in my 30's by the time i get my bachelors) so you have nothing to be ashamed of.

Congrats

quicksand
Nov 21, 2002

A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.

Race Realists posted:

OH MAN YOU SURE ARE OLDDDD!!!

all shitposting aside, there are WAY older people in school (i'll likely be in my 30's by the time i get my bachelors) so you have nothing to be ashamed of.

Congrats

Oh for sure, but at the same time I never once thought I'd be a person who has a degree, I kind of gave up on that goal like 15 years ago. Going back was hard because I felt it was already "too late" since I didn't do it at 18 like everyone else I know.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
I got my Network+ and CCENT in the last couple of months. Going for the 70-410 in a couple of weeks. How does the 410 compare to the other two? Better, worse?

yilduz
Sep 17, 2014

quicksand posted:

Oh for sure, but at the same time I never once thought I'd be a person who has a degree, I kind of gave up on that goal like 15 years ago. Going back was hard because I felt it was already "too late" since I didn't do it at 18 like everyone else I know.

I'll be 30 when I finish my degree next year, and being back in school the past couple years makes me want to stay in it. I think I might continue to do school (probably on and off) the rest of my life. I don't think it's ever too late. I sometimes hear people say it's too late for them because they don't know enough to be successful in school, but the purpose of school is to learn. You're not supposed to know it all going into it, otherwise it would just be a waste of time and money anyway.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Wow, Amazon is now showing February 7th for Micheal Jang's RHCSA/RHCE 7 release. :smith:

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
ROUTE is going to kick my rear end, man. Studying when you actually have a job is so much harder :smith:

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Alain Post posted:

ROUTE is going to kick my rear end, man. Studying when you actually have a job is so much harder :smith:

I do all my cert studying on Saturday mornings because of this. When I get home from work my brain is in massive gently caress off mode to the learning process.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

quicksand posted:

30 years old and I finally got a degree. Feels good.
The entire time that I was getting my degree, I felt old. I had gone back to school while still at work because I really just wanted the degree, but I was 7 years older than everyone. It was something I was aware of my entire time in school, but something basically snapped the day after I took my last final. I never, ever think about being older, or think about that I went back to school. Now, in my own mind, I got a degree just like everyone else did. The other stuff just fell away. Curious if that'll happen to you.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

quicksand posted:

30 years old and I finally got a degree. Feels good.

I was 33 when I finished my WGU degree and I knew of quite a few people well into their 40's that my advisor lady worked with. Congrats dude, it does feel good.

I actually think going to school when I was older was easier. I took it more seriously and had way better time management skills than when I did my 2 year degree a long long time ago.

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005
For WGU students: Anyone know if they're open to Canadians?

quicksand
Nov 21, 2002

A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.

Ashley Madison posted:

For WGU students: Anyone know if they're open to Canadians?

I'm Canadian, so yes they are! My student mentor even mentioned I wasn't the only one she had right now either.

The only thing that sucks is that some of the testing centers for their certport stuff are only in the US (I avoided these by taking classes that counted as equivalencies) but that was only for stupid Microsoft MTA exams.Oh, and tuition in USD... that sucked this last year.
The upside, is your TL-11A (tuition paid out of country form) will be in USD, so you get to claim a ton of money come tax time.

If you have any questions about it, PM me.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.
Registered for the OSCP/PWK course and labs. We don't need formal approval for reimbursement for courses or certifications less than $1000, so the $800 price point is perfect. Trying to get more into the penetration testing/systems engineering side of security engineering (instead of beep boop firewalls and IPSs and also some half-assed penetration tests that I'm doing now), so I figure that's a good (free) way to do it.

CrushedWill
Sep 27, 2012

Stand it like a man... and give some back

quicksand posted:

30 years old and I finally got a degree. Feels good.

First of all, congrats! Second, as many have alluded to, 30 is not unusual anymore for the first degree. I received my BA when 27, and my MS and PMP much later.

Education is just Lays; you can't stop at just one.

echo465
Jun 3, 2007
I like ice cream

yilduz posted:

I'll be 30 when I finish my degree next year, and being back in school the past couple years makes me want to stay in it. I think I might continue to do school (probably on and off) the rest of my life. I don't think it's ever too late. I sometimes hear people say it's too late for them because they don't know enough to be successful in school, but the purpose of school is to learn. You're not supposed to know it all going into it, otherwise it would just be a waste of time and money anyway.

I hope it's never too late... I was a few days short of 39 when I finished mine exactly a year ago today.

Grawl
Aug 28, 2008

Do the D.A.N.C.E
1234, fight!
Stick to the B.E.A.T
Get ready to ignite
You were such a P.Y.T
Catching all the lights
Just easy as A.B.C
That's how we make it right
So what's the best general idea right now? Microsoft, Cisco or something else?

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Grawl posted:

So what's the best general idea right now? Microsoft, Cisco or something else?

Well, those are two very different tracks so you probably want to decide if you like the idea of sysadmin or network admin first. Either one has plenty of demand and can be lucrative.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.
Yeah it really depends on whether your like servers or networking more.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
If I want to go into Security, what should I be looking for? I peeped the OP but it just mentions Sec+ and I've heard of the CISSP, but I have no idea what's in between.

Kashuno fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Dec 2, 2015

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

Kashuno posted:

If I want to go into Security, what should I be looking for? I peeped the OP but it just mentions Sec+ and I've heard of the CISSP, but I have no idea what's in between.

Security's sort of a broad term these days that can encompass everything from thumb drive cops to gray-hat hackers working for the government, but generally speaking it's a sub-field within network or software engineering. Sec+ and the CISSP are definitely good to have, but having a CCNP level of knowledge or a very good understanding of operating system kernels and programming languages will set you up for success. Going the networking route while studying your rear end off with regards to programming (and learning how to use Linux and FreeBSD) is probably the best way to go in terms of making the most money right off the bat and positioning yourself well for senior-level security positions.

It also depends on what you're interested in. Security analysis is different from security engineering, which is different from penetration testing, which is different from incident response.

psydude fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Dec 2, 2015

1000101
May 14, 2003

BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY FRUITCAKE!

Alain Post posted:

ROUTE is going to kick my rear end, man. Studying when you actually have a job is so much harder :smith:

Spend some time in GNS3 or optionally Cisco VIRL (worth the money to me.) http://virl.cisco.com/getvirl/

One advantage to VIRL is you don't have to go scouring the internet for IOS images.

In addition to routing protocol fundamentals you're going to want to be pretty solid at route redistribution.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

psydude posted:

Security's sort of a broad term these days that can encompass everything from thumb drive cops to gray-hat hackers working for the government, but generally speaking it's a sub-field within network or software engineering. Sec+ and the CISSP are definitely good to have, but having a CCNP level of knowledge or a very good understanding of operating system kernels and programming languages will set you up for success. Going the networking route while studying your rear end off with regards to programming (and learning how to use Linux and FreeBSD) is probably the best way to go in terms of making the most money right off the bat and positioning yourself well for senior-level security positions.

It also depends on what you're interested in. Security analysis is different from security engineering, which is different from penetration testing, which is different from incident response.

Thanks for the info! Penetration testing was specifically what caught my attention. I'll start working toward the CCNP after finishing net+ and sec+

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

psydude posted:

Security's sort of a broad term these days that can encompass everything from thumb drive cops to gray-hat hackers working for the government, but generally speaking it's a sub-field within network or software engineering. Sec+ and the CISSP are definitely good to have, but having a CCNP level of knowledge or a very good understanding of operating system kernels and programming languages will set you up for success. Going the networking route while studying your rear end off with regards to programming (and learning how to use Linux and FreeBSD) is probably the best way to go in terms of making the most money right off the bat and positioning yourself well for senior-level security positions.

It also depends on what you're interested in. Security analysis is different from security engineering, which is different from penetration testing, which is different from incident response.

Thanks for this Psydude. I just finished up my Security+ and now I dont know what direction to take my career. I have a CCNA already and still do some general networking but dont want to do that exclusively. I'm playing around learning Linux more and more each week and that seems to be the direction I want to work towards. I'll keep learning as much as I can about Kali Linux and start reading up on the CISSP.

H.R. Paperstacks
May 1, 2006

This is America
My president is black
and my Lambo is blue
When it comes to the RHCSA/RHCE exams, my understanding is that when you finish the exam, a script is run against the VM to determine your pass/fail. With that in mind, when there are multiple ways to accomplish a specific task, is there a concern about which way to perform the task? I'm not talking about the tasks like "put Joe in the group 'Admin' " that can be accomplished by using 'groupadd' command or manually editing '/etc/group', since my assumption is the script check is looking at '/etc/group' and not the way you went about accomplishing it. I'm talking about something like configuring the network gateway ip, which can be done under '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethXX' or /etc/sysconfig/network', both arrive at the same destination, the gateway is configured, but in different configuration file locations.

Maybe I'm assuming too little of how they check the completion of each task? The closet kiosk for me is Atlanta, which is a 5hr drive and I'd rather not waste a trip because the exam expects it only one way.

so edgy i cut YOU BITCH
Apr 7, 2006
Grimey Drawer
I work for a managed service small shop doing desktop support and have decided that I want to start down the cert path. First step for me is CCENT. I don't have the money to build my own lab so I'm researching my options on what would work best/cheaply.

While i'm looking into that, I want to go ahead and order a book. Do you guys have a go-to recommendation for a CCENT study book? I plan on supplementing it with videos (Professor Messer, some others I've bookmarked from this thread). It's going to be a slow process as I don't have a huge amount of free time, but I want to take the first step and get the book ordered.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Wendell Odom's CCENT book is well-written and comes with interactive labs, videos and practice exams. It's not entirely a one-stop shop, but it's darned close.

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005
I also had success with Wendell Odom's CCENT book. He's a bit over-detailed sometimes, but the practice material that comes with the book is solid.

hitachi
May 2, 2003

Hail to the King, baby
Did you guys check out Lammle's book as well? That is the one recommended in the OP, just curious if you had seen both and preferred Odom's. I am gonna purchase one here soon and try to take the test next month.

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HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
I'm going through the Boson practice exam for the 70-410 and is it me, or is this exam a load of horse crap? The questions take forever just to read through and I swear the exam must be like at least 25% 70-411 level material. CCENT was a finely-tuned piece of machinery compared to this.

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