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Here's my primary scooter: 2000 HD Softail Deuce, 88ci, Vance & Hines Shorties, Ghost-Paisley brown, with 14 ince apes, billet headlamp & forward controls, steel braided cables, with solid chromed tubing oil system. Port Side:  Starboard Side:  Headin' out to the highway:  Now I want WestCoast 14 inch t-bars and a bullet fairing for Xmas. similar to the front end pictured below: 
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 08:10 |
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| # ? May 22, 2013 21:44 |
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Your scooter looks a lot like a motorcycle.
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 08:13 |
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We (my friends and I) generally refer to (American) motorcycles, as a scooter, scoot', bike, sled, ride, or other such slang-like terms. I've been on motorcycles since the late 1960s...and nothing but Harley-Davidsons since 1976. Me in 1976: (lower right)  in 1983:  Me nowadays: 
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 08:26 |
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I have heard that Red & White is worldwide. Is this true? If so, can I run and/or hide? Seriouspost: What do you want this thread to turn into? GlazedMcGuffin fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2012 around 08:56 |
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Nice brain bucket. Are you in a gang? What are your gang members' cool gang names? I like to imagine you have names like 8-Ball, Dingo, Chunk, Ramrod, etc. Names that are badass, but that aren't crude or gross sounding. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2012 around 09:00 |
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GlazedMcGuffin posted:
Sagebrush posted:Nice brain bucket. I don't know where that brain-bucket is anymore, it fell, and I no longer trusted it. It's gone. (I would like a nice full-faced helmet w/ visor though). No gangs here. I've got riding partners with such outlandish names such as Charlie, Jack Schit (really), Bob, William, and George. They call me Pauly.
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 09:24 |
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Krazie K posted:I originally wanted to post my initial post in an ongoing thread "Cycle photos and videos." Somehow it became an independent thread. Operator error on my part. No excuse really. Your politeness and interweb ineptitude are boggling my mind. Mostly (90%) thrown by the politeness, though. I hope you get a full-face helmet soon. One that looks like that bullet fairing you're after. That would be awesome.
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 10:20 |
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I mean, something like this maybe?
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 10:41 |
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All thread snarking aside, can you get some better pics of that tank paint, that looks pretty sweet. Also IMO what you've got looks a lot more interesting than that generic matted out bike you linked and those 14-inch T's look thoroughly impractical to actually use, particularly with the forward controls. A different headlight might refresh the look but if you do get a fairing please see if you can match the existing paint, everybody and their accountant has a matted out Hog these days.
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 12:07 |
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I'm genuinely curious: what draws you to bars that have your arms shooting into the air, far above your head? Don't your arms get tired rather quickly?
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 14:49 |
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port = left starboard = right
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 15:17 |
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Mmm, suddenly hungry for potatoes
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 15:35 |
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joat mon posted:port = left He's saying those pictures were taken from the port or starboard side of the boat passing his bike. Took drat near 40 years for that photo op.
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 15:36 |
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Snowdens Secret posted:...if you do get a fairing please see if you can match the existing paint, everybody and their accountant has a matted out Hog these days. prukinski posted:I mean, something like this maybe? prukinski posted:
joat mon posted:port = left
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 15:45 |
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Nice pics. That would look good with a bullet fairing. You could post them to the pic/videos thread or the "let's see your ride" thread, but you'll probably find less morons here http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3443364
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 17:48 |
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Say, a man's palms haven't been crossed with Silver lately have they? 
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 18:19 |
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Z3n posted:Say, a man's palms haven't been crossed with Silver lately have they? Nah, just a lil' green.
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 18:50 |
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Krazie K posted:Me in 1976: (lower right) WhoNeedsFrontBrakes.jpeg
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 19:30 |
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Those organ pipes are loving outstanding!
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 20:06 |
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Stugazi posted:Your scooter looks a lot like a motorcycle. And his port looks like my starboard. Mods please change OP's user name to EXXONVALDEZ. e: gently caress, beaten ee: I do like the dual gas caps. Very Jag!
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| # ? Dec 12, 2012 20:28 |
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Krazie K posted:You'd think one would know better. I can't believe how cool as a cucumber you are in the face of your reception here. I really want to hear some of your riding stories now. Tell me about some of those 40+ years. What makes you say there's no such thing as OMGs?
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 10:25 |
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prukinski posted:Tell me about some of those 40+ years. What makes you say there's no such thing as OMGs? The primary purpose of a "gang" is to promote criminal activity. The primary purpose of a "club" is to promote common interests which in the case of an MC, is riding 100K miles + yearly together, fellowship, and supporting one another through good times and bad. The incidence of drug dealing and illegal activities in the vast majority of MC's mirrors the percentage of criminal behavior in society as a whole. MCs, (and many other organizations) today face a travesty of injustice that threatens to take away civil rights that our founding fathers created when this country was formed. Many of us served in the armed forces to protect those basic rights and freedoms. For example, under the Arizona "Criminal Street Gang" statute, the police can attempt to attach "gang enhancement" charges to someone who is charged with a felony. Even if an individual is charged with a crime that is not related to any activity associated with the club (or gang as they call it), this "enhancement" can be added. Charges are often filed on club members that would not even be pursued for any other citizen. It is sad that people seeking to prosecute these cases are ok with attempting to destroy people’s lives and take away their liberty over some stereotype and false portrayal of groups. The law adds extra time and penalties to sentences and takes away the ability to be paroled. Even sex offenders and hardened criminal face less! Someone who would normally get probation, and/or reduced charges or minimal sentences (if even prosecuted) can now face 8 ˝ years. What does this mean to you? Take a look at the law and see how simple it would be to classify many groups as a “Gang”. Criteria such as wearing similar attire, sharing a common group name, having similar symbols or tattoos, congregating in similar places, etc. If the police had a problem with many civil organizations they could call them a gang. Car clubs, hobby clubs, boy scouts, and societies like the Free Masons etc. Under the definition, you could even say the police could be called a gang. We need to stop this unjust abuse of power and manipulation of the law and protect citizens from the very people who are supposed to protect us! Crimes are committed even by police officers. We all see the news. They will tell you not to judge the many based on the mistake of a few Why then does that not apply to MCs? MCs are formed to ride motorcycles and enjoy fellowship, not to commit crimes. Law enforcement (LE) writers such as William Queen ("Under and Alone"), George Wethern and Vincent Colnett ("A Wayward Angel: The Full Story of the Hells Angels"), Yves Lavigne, ("Hell's Angels: Taking Care of Business"), and former ATF Agent Jay Dobyns ("No Angel: My Harrowing Undercover Journey to the Inner Circle of the Hells Angels"). Each of these writers spent millions of taxpayer dollars to investigate, some of them facilitating or enticing members to commit crimes, and then produce a smattering of charges many of which were dismissed. (See Operation Black Biscuit). So while, yes, there are a few members who have participated in criminal behavior, it does not represent these clubs as a whole. If that were true then based upon the behavior of some of its leaders, we might label the Catholic Church as a network of pedophiles whose primary mission is to exploit children. I dunno, maybe people already see them as that. This is just my opinion, based on experience. Krazie K fucked around with this message at Dec 14, 2012 around 00:14 |
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Krazie K posted:I've been on motorcycles since the late 1960s...and nothing but Harley-Davidsons since 1976. That's a shame, since all the really cool icons of the 50's through 70's rode Triumphs. Maybe you should ditch the girl bikes and step up to something a man would ride, like a Rocket III 
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HotCanadianChick posted:all the really cool icons of the 50's through 70's rode Triumphs 
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You're taking a very real thing- abuse of power by law enforcement and government in general- to make the argument that actual, factual motorcycle gangs don't exist or aren't really that much of a thing. Are there less gangs than previously? Yes. Is law enforcement becoming more militarized and abusing its power? Yes. Are harmless groups being mislabelled and unfairly targetted? Yes. That doesn't mean gangs don't exist anymore. There are still gangs whose primary purpose is illegal activity. All of these things are not mutually exclusive.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 16:05 |
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Yeah, you tell him.
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I'm not trying to attack him, if that's what you're getting at. It's really hard to undersand his position. People can have their opinions that motorcycle gangs don't exist. The facts, however, make those opinions objectively wrong. Convoluting their existance with other issues somewhat related to them doesn't really add anything.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 17:31 |
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He spent multiple paragraphs explaining how, in his view, the stereotypical idea of a motorcycle gang doesn't exist but you seem to only see "motorcycle gang doesn't exist" and reject that as it doesn't fit a binary of "does exist" or "does not exist". Just listen to the guy's perspective without petty squabbling.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 18:00 |
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Pope Mobile posted:I'm not trying to attack him, if that's what you're getting at. It's really hard to undersand his position. People can have their opinions that motorcycle gangs don't exist. The facts, however, make those opinions objectively wrong. Convoluting their existance with other issues somewhat related to them doesn't really add anything. He never said they don't exist, he was implying the percentage of MC's with gang connotations is the same as the percentage of greater society with criminal ties. Krazie K posted:The incidence of drug dealing and illegal activities in the vast majority of MC's mirrors the percentage of criminal behavior in society as a whole. He even added the caveat that it's his own experience, which helps understand his position I think.
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quote:2. Motorcycle clubs are not gangs. Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs (OMGs) are a law enforcement fabrication. While you were sleeping, the government modified the US Constitution by the "gangarization" of various groups of citizens at will, along with the loss of certain legal protections due to Nixon's ongoing "war on drugs." I love the freedoms we used to have. This is his statement from the other thread. Stating that they're a fabrication is the same as stating they don't exist. He's taking anecdotal evidence and applying it to a larger scenario. quote:Just listen to the guy's perspective without petty squabbling.
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I know you're upset cause you think he called your girlfriend vapid but really this is a bit obsessive. Will it end if I admit that you're right? Welcome to Cycle Asylum, Krazie K! lol...
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I think you're reading into my response too much. I'm not upset over anything. I'd be insulting him if I were upset, not pointing out the flaws in his opinions. You're saying "he's just got a different perspective," I'm pointing what's wrong about that perspective.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 18:15 |
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I'll bet you're real nice to have a coffee with.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 18:35 |
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 Whatever man, that's just like, your opnion.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 18:41 |
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Exactly...
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"pope mobile posted:I think you're reading into my response too much. I'm not upset over anything. I'd be insulting him if I were upset, not pointing out the flaws in his opinions. You've followed this guy into three threads now on this crap. As Cam'ron so eloquently put it: "you mad".
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ThatCguy posted:You've followed this guy into three threads now on this crap. As Cam'ron so eloquently put it: "you mad". You're a little late to the conversation.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 19:25 |
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Fashionably, brother.
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| # ? Dec 13, 2012 19:27 |
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Man, I was the first person to call him a troll and even I think that his subsequent posts have shown him to be much more interesting than first glance. A bit jingoistic and overly butthurt about the popular portrayal of bikers, sure, but it's a unique perspective that I haven't really seen in CA before. He reminds me of the guy at my MSF who, when some woman suggested "tee hee, we should be a gang together!" immediately deadpanned "No. Don't call it a gang. Anything gang-related doubles your time served." Serious question: are there any statistics on the actual prevalence of OMG gangs / gang members versus motorcycle clubs / members in general? I would guess it's far less than one percent, actually. BUT -- what about the people who aren't drug dealers and rapists but just nuisances, dudes on open-header Harleys ripping along the freeway partially to entirely drunk, pissing off everyone around but only really breaking traffic laws? There are clearly some gangs of organized criminals, and "gangs" of eagle scouts and and honorable soldiers and ice cream men, but you can't deny that there's also a big chunk in the middle of small-dicked losers who like to feel big, and I think they're far more responsible for the current image of an average joe "biker" than the Hell's Angels. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at Dec 13, 2012 around 21:21 |
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Krazie K posted:Outlaw motorcycle clubs I get what you're saying man. It's a solid perspective and makes a big point that even in the worst of the worst there's no mandate to participate in illegal activity to roll with the club. As far as I know stated requirements of a crime/felony/etc as a condition of being a member are a Hollywood invention. The long standing difference in 1%er clubs and traditional organized crime is the factor of independence and no requirement to fall in line and walk lock step. It's more of a statement of certain slights against the club and consequences which are often plainly stated violence against the perpetrator followed by expulsion. It doesn't mandate everybody join in a beat down or commit crimes, but they do state that *somebody* will be stepping up to carry this poo poo out. Making the organization as a whole OK with what society deems criminal activity. 1%er clubs have embraced just about every negative stereotype ever made about them. Once '1%' itself was turned from meaning unofficial/not AMA endorsed to criminal all kinds of patches and symbols appeared to take on the twisted meaning and embrace it as an identity. One of the biggest clubs out there is named 'Outlaws', with their name and patches coming straight out of Hollywood. Their leader was on the most wanted lists until he was arrested in the 90's, and their members have been tried and convicted of the usual gambit of prostitution, drugs, arms dealing, murder, etc. When you've got so many members of so many clubs living up to the reputation, it's really hard to defend a blanket branding of the whole apple as rotten. Especially when each chapter tends to be less than a dozen guys. 9 of those 12 that are into some serious poo poo might be a small % even of the club and smaller still of the total OMG population, but when you see them making headlines you just don't immediately think the club is fine because 2 or 3 of the local chapter are stand up dudes. It's almost impossible not to be guilty by association, because even if they just want to ride they willingly identify with hardcore criminals as family and associate with them with pride on a regular basis. Especially when the by-laws of the club state all sorts of reasons to be ejected from it, but performing criminal activity while representing the club is cool. You and others are right that it's not a binary exist/don't exist, but saying they don't exist ignores just as much as saying they do. It makes for some nice shock and some long rear end posts, but it's just wrong despite the surrounding gray area. :edit: Nice scoot, I seriously dig the paint. Halo_4am fucked around with this message at Dec 13, 2012 around 21:40 |
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