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Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


Man, I wish I had hands and a head. That would be nice!

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Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

The mediator between the hands and the head must be the fart.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

At a most basic level, the heart is a temporary class-truce, where rich and poor 'unite' to eliminate the outsider who sows dissent. This 'unity' takes the form of humanitarian aid and other forms of charity, passed down to the workers so that they don't get all uppity.

(Despite the liberal style, this focus on the devious outsider led to the film being easily co-opted by the Nazi party.)

The symptom of the film is the splitting of Maria into good and evil halves, with the 'good' one meekly preaching Christan love and the 'evil' Satanic one promoting actual revolt. The idea of a radicalized Christianity is beyond the confines of the film - the 'evil' Maria is casually destroyed.

The proper messenger from hands to head would be both Marias working in concert. Freder is a distraction.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
Cool, that works.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Rotwang was no outsider. He was one of the upper class and turned to a nihilistic fantasy of destruction.

Naive though it may be, Metropolis' narrative has more poetry and beauty than it would if it resolved in a Marxist-approved manner. Case in point, the short lived musical version.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
You could also run with Kracauer's basic argument about Lang's films and suggest that the ending of Metropolis is the ultimate distillation of the point of view that the form is paramount to the human. Despite the fact that Rotwang and his robot essentially represent the ultimate industrial corruption of spirituality, Lang and von Harbou made their sympathy towards the builders of the Tower of Babel rather explicit by making the 'true prophet' Maria overtly sympathetic to their bleak design of building a tower to Heaven. (You'll notice this explicitly rejects the most fundamental moral premise of the Hebrew myth, which is that these actions distract humanity from God's moral authority.)

Even though it is revealed that the urban utopia of the over-city is actually a dystopia for its underclass, Lang and von Harbou, as intellectuals with roots in expressionism, have a very hard time giving up the naive dream of the innate beauty of the industrial state as the ultimate realization of man's 'true' likeness. To them, the form - and, thus, the politique - will always be more important than the individual, social human. Thus, the underclass are constructed as a mob that, left to their own devices, almost drowns their own children when they destroy the forms that ostensibly oppress them, and immediately reverts to a witch-hunting mob. This is really not that different from The Birth of a Nation, where D. W. Griffith's message is not that Blacks are lacking in basic human dignity, but that they still need the control of the State, realized in the superego self-actualization of the Ku Klux Klan/Freder. Oppression is a necessary evil so that the State can be re-unified, but with the a representative of the old regime still functioning as its beacon.

It's not difficult to see how this favoritism of the form over the human eventually leads to Nazi propaganda such as Triumph of the Will, and the concurrent perversion of Judeo-Christian morality to excuse both racial and ideological oppression.

Rotwang being a member of the elite is irrelevant, because his perversion of the form with his pathos - associated with his antiquated house and clothing more reminiscent of the workers than the elite, than Joh the traitor who stole his true love - marks him as non-viable with the State. In fact, he is far more like Marx, who was also a member of the elite, but who still welcomed the ultimate dissolution of the oppression of the proletariat.

EDIT: Even when I first saw the movie when I was thirteen, I always rooted for Rotwang, and was very surprised when it was in fact Frollo's son who threw Quasimodo off of the Church, instead of the other way around. Metropolis is a seriously flawed movie. It's not just naive.

K. Waste fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Aug 2, 2014

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Brings new meaning to the phrase 'don't chase the rabbit'.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
anyone with money wanting some sweet, sweet Pacific Rim props?

http://propstore.auctionserver.net/view-auctions/catalog/id/9/

maestro81
Sep 4, 2014
I feel ultimately it was a movie about Giant Robots punching things. Very deep stuff man.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

darkspider42 posted:

anyone with money wanting some sweet, sweet Pacific Rim props?

http://propstore.auctionserver.net/view-auctions/catalog/id/9/

Gonna pay eleven thousand dollars for Mako Mori's Drivesuit Helmet...so I can...have a little piece of her near me...

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
That won't be drive suit coolant/fluid flowing through the helmet.

Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.
Actually tempted to bid on a lot of the bone shards and maybe the drill and wrench.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
If the stuff's located in LA, I might bid on Idris Elba's desk and use it at work :cheeky:

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

Wizchine posted:

If the stuff's located in LA, I might bid on Idris Elba's desk and use it at work :cheeky:

The only desk listed is Hannibal Chau's (Ron Perlman's).

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Wade Wilson posted:

The only desk listed is Hannibal Chau's (Ron Perlman's).

They had Stacker's up there earlier I believe, it was one of the ones ending soon.

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.
I want that Gipsy Danger ground crew jacket so bad. Gipsy's the prettiest girl in that movie. :swoon:

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

According to this thread Gipsy has a penis.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

A phallus. They're totally different.

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.
If you can pilot it, it's a lady.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

Bongo Bill posted:

A phallus. They're totally different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoris#Spotted_hyenas

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.

Captain Invictus posted:

They had Stacker's up there earlier I believe, it was one of the ones ending soon.

I just got an email that the stuff IS here in LA, too. And the desk is available if you search for it. But the current bid is $1000, so no thanks.

Wizchine fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Sep 6, 2014

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.
The prices on a lot of the costumes are pretty reasonable if you consider the cost to buy the pants, sweaters, and jackets, and accessories individually.

Like that fisherman costume for $10. It's probably actually waterproof, too, since the actors were getting sprayed during that scene. Or any of the ones that come with a bomber jacket.

Thunderlips
Oct 25, 2002
What do Ebola, Sierra Leone, and Pacific Rim have in common you may ask?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/world/africa/sierra-leone-ebola-medical-supplies-delayed-docks.html

quote:

...
The supplies were donated by individuals and institutions in the United States, according to Chernoh Alpha Bah, who organized the shipment. But Mr. Bah wears another hat, as well. He is an opposition politician from President Ernest Bai Koroma’s hometown, Makeni — a place that clearly showed the government’s inability to contain Ebola.
...



And this isn't a case of some kook naming himself after a movie. I found a 2006 mention:
http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/philadelphia/16438-chernoh-alpha-m-bah-philadelphia-march-25-27-a.html

I haven't found anybody actually named Crimson Typhoon or Crikey Dingo yet, but GDT needs to answer for this.

:doink:

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 244 days!

jscolon2.0 posted:

If you can pilot it, it's a lady.

According to my browsing Wikipedia at work awesome erudition, you are correct. Men posses the phallus, women are the phallus. Any object which a man possesses which empowers him is coded as female, whether that power is reproduction, travel, or beating the poo poo out of giant monsters. However, this is how our society tends to perceive the phallus, not the only possible use of the symbol.

Of course, in this case Mako is learning how to posses the phallic power, which she achieves when she makes more explicitly phallic part of Gypsy Danger hard and shoves it into a giant monster.

In contrast, Godzilla has no need to possess the phallus, he is the phallus and yet is totally complete in himself and unable to be possessed (except by the ghosts of the war dead I guess). In Freudian terms, this is the godlike power we seek by pursuing the phallus, but can never achieve because it is only an object separate from our body, rather than an aspect of ourselves.

The phallus is also totally a penis though. It is Freud after all.

E: also I guess Ebola is hosed now. That is pretty rad, and I'm glad to see something not mind-numbingly from depressing from that shitshow.

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Oct 7, 2014

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

Hodgepodge posted:

Of course, in this case Mako is learning how to posses the phallic power, which she achieves when she makes more explicitly phallic part of Gypsy Danger hard and shoves it into a giant monster.

They cut things in half. There is never any stabbing with the sword.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I'm gonna cut you in half with my dickphallic imagery

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Did that prop site have Hannibal Chau's sweet shoes for sale? I couldn't have afforded them but I'm just interested if they were available and what price they sold for.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
If you were Ron Perlman, wouldn't you have kept them?

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Pacific Rim 2 to begin filming in late 2015

Tommy 2.0
Apr 26, 2008

My fabulous CoX shall live forever!

Way to not soon late way to gahhh film now plz

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister



This pleases me.

Ramen Pride!
Jan 13, 2001
So as some of you may know, my family has made some pretty spiffy Halloween costumes over the years. We have had a lot of fun doing them, and they've been pretty well received around here.

This year my younger son is edging past the acceptable Trick or Treat age, so we decided to make one last major costume. I think it's pretty fitting for this thread.

Черно Альфа!!!



We had a great Halloween, and even though it rained and got too cold to go downtown like we have in the past, we went to WalMart. :)

I slapped a video together like I have done in the past as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-17T7zPNw

I hope it's okay posting this here. I didn't see a Halloween costume thread or contest on SA this year.

Sun Dog
Dec 25, 2002

Old School Gamer.

Ramen Pride! posted:

So as some of you may know, my family has made some pretty spiffy Halloween costumes over the years. We have had a lot of fun doing them, and they've been pretty well received around here.

This year my younger son is edging past the acceptable Trick or Treat age, so we decided to make one last major costume. I think it's pretty fitting for this thread.

Черно Альфа!!!



We had a great Halloween, and even though it rained and got too cold to go downtown like we have in the past, we went to WalMart. :)

I slapped a video together like I have done in the past as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-17T7zPNw

I hope it's okay posting this here. I didn't see a Halloween costume thread or contest on SA this year.

I am so in love with your robot costumes. <3

JazzPaws
Aug 10, 2014

- Ponzi Scheme Survivor -

Has any porn studio done the parody yet?

"Pacific Rim Job"

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

JazzPaws posted:

Has any porn studio done the parody yet?

"Pacific Rim Job"

You'll have to be satisfied with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CZYNbqvj4

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

JazzPaws posted:

Has any porn studio done the parody yet?

"Pacific Rim Job"

I read somewhere that the porn industry in general doesn't do the funny name-thing anymore. All you will get is "Pacific Rim: The XXX Comedy" or some such.

My personal theory is that this is because all the people who came up with the funny names now work for The Asylum.

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ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

Grendels Dad posted:

I read somewhere that the porn industry in general doesn't do the funny name-thing anymore. All you will get is "Pacific Rim: The XXX Comedy" or some such.

My personal theory is that this is because all the people who came up with the funny names now work for The Asylum.

The Knobbit.

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