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I really liked the teaser trailers. We got the Jor-El/Russell Crowe 'version' here and I liked that one a lot more than the alternative. The second trailer seems really intriguing. If nothing else, Snyder seems to have a really good eye for Superman's particular brand of iconography and iconic imagery. Pretty much any shot in that trailer that had the cape in it was spot-on. I'm not really seeing the 'dark and gritty' complaints that I've seen popping up constantly since Nolan and Thomas were announced as producers. There's a definite cynicism to some of the imagery in the trailer and Jonathon Kent's 'Maybe...' seems quite bleak placed out of context like that. But a lot of that stems from what seems to be a much more reverent approach to the legacy of Superman and examining what Superman is, as opposed to Returns' reverence for the Donner films in particular. I was pretty down on this when it was announced, but it's looking really promising to me.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 03:10 |
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 06:57 |
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Two Kings posted:The second trailer is really giving me Superman Returns vibes. That's bad. I think the sheer reverence for the character is really hurting the franchise. It's like he's the superhero Jesus or something. Has WB learned anything from the success of The Avengers? Please just make a good action movie. I don't really understand how reverence for the character is at odds with making a 'good action movie'. Or why Superman's leanings as a mythic, religious or Christ figure are detrimental to that either, actually. WB did pretty good with the Dark Knight trilogy with the same reverence and those were perfectly good action movies.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 03:38 |
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Defiance Industries posted:Did we watch the same Dark Knight? I don't know if I'd call a movie that wants to explore how Batman would be better off being replaced by people who are actually accountable "reverent." You can approach a character with reverence and respect for their legacy and history and treating the character seriously without agreeing with it.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 04:54 |
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Baron Bifford posted:Oh come on! Coming up with pseudo-scientific explanation for superpowers is one of the great joys of reading and writing superheroes! God no. Categorizing and 'explaining' superheroes and their abilities in cold, patently fake, calculated 'scientific' terms is the most absurd and illegitimate train of thought to ever approach a comic through.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2012 11:02 |
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Baron Bifford posted:It's what distinguishes a true comic nerd from the new legions of mainstream superhero fans who think they're one of us just because they liked The Dark Knight and The Avengers. Comics are the loving worst.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2012 11:18 |
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Xenomrph posted:It's sort of like Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen - by the end of the story he just doesn't give a gently caress about humanity because the scope of his power and knowledge is so much greater than theirs; it's like genuinely caring about the well-being about individual ants in an ant colony on anything other than an observational, scientific level. Watchmen ends with Dr. Manhattan discovering a newfound appreciation and respect for humankind. "I think I'll go create some." Baron Bifford posted:My thought is a super-villain who runs a massive child sex-trafficking ring. We can see Superman beat up somebody whom we have a proper reason to hate and rescue genuine victims of the kind we agonize over in the news all the time. What the gently caress
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2012 15:50 |
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No, it's him grooming Honor Roll children in the back of his spaceship.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2012 16:14 |
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Xenomrph posted:It's been a few years since I read 'Watchmen', but I remember reading that line as him not caring about humanity at all and that he was going to go off and create some life he did care about. No, he rediscovers his love of human life because of Laurie and the circumstances of her life and goes off to create some for himself.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2012 10:15 |
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Baron Bifford posted:Delzuma was quoting a line from Civil War: Frontline #11. Some idiot was questioning his relevancy based on his knowledge of current pop culture. I think Gyges knew that, Baron, given that he also referenced that scene.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2012 13:13 |
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If only that cartoon character had been as canny as you, she'd have known about all the children Darkseid abused.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2012 12:16 |
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It is a good thing Superman stayed morally pure by not killing Darkseid, self-appointed God of Evil who strives to enslave the universe and destroy free will. Though in effect Superman repeatedly fails to defeat Darkseid and perpetuates the slavery and deaths of untold billions, it is OK, because Superman is the better man. The moral crisis of this galactic genocide is nothing compared to Superman's personal morals. Killing is wrong.
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2012 02:40 |
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Burkion posted:I don't mind the possible Jimmy thing to happen-I just object to it resulting in a new love interest/crush. I cannot see that being the road they take that prospective change at all. Given that there are a lot more women getting into, and doing succesfully, in Journalism now than ever, at least where I am, it's a change I welcome.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2013 04:23 |
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They should just let Guy Pearce go for the hat-trick in rich, science fiction douchebags and shave his head.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2013 06:48 |
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Steve Yun posted:Does the Time Machine count? Always and forever.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2013 07:20 |
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There's shots of some big tentacle thing as well as the native bird things on Krypton.
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# ¿ May 2, 2013 13:22 |
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You and me, Thwomp; we get Superman. You wanna' know why?
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# ¿ May 2, 2013 14:06 |
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I love Hancock. I feel like a lot of people went in hoping for some kind of parody of Superheroes instead of an earnest Superhero origin that uses humor to highlight the transformation of the main character. I'd be interested to see how people respond to it post-Avengers and Marvel's output, to be honest.
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# ¿ May 6, 2013 14:18 |
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bobkatt013 posted:He was also sleeping with Supergirl at that time, but not the Krypton one the shapeshifting one. Who was really an angel.
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# ¿ May 6, 2013 16:57 |
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Who cares
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# ¿ May 10, 2013 17:25 |
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Jerk McJerkface posted:rear end is an incredible introduction to Superman. It's an amazing story, and I defy anyone to read the part where Clark's dad dies, and he gets to spend a few more minutes with his dad in disguise and not have an emotional response. It gets a little goofy in parts, but for a super hero story about a guy that is basically invincible it sure makes a compelling story. Morrison's father died around that time and that issue was largely written as he came to terms with it, I believe.
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# ¿ May 24, 2013 15:04 |
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enraged_camel posted:I also liked that Louis was hot and single. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnQoq07ej_M&t=65s
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2013 09:41 |
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teagone posted:There's also a bit where Superman keeps the fight above the city until Zod manages to bring the both of them back down. I'm pretty sure Zod's actually the one who takes the fight into space and brings it back down.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2013 05:22 |
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"I'm from Smallville, Kansas and I say 'kill 'em all!'" - Pete Ross, Man of Steel.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2013 07:22 |
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That we know of.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2013 01:18 |
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He's actually quite a nice sort once you get to know him.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2013 15:10 |
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Yeah, I was under the distinct impression that Zod was the one who took the fight orbital, and then brought it back down.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 11:15 |
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I'm pretty sure I even told someone in this thread that was what happened. Whoops.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 11:32 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:In a perfect world, Man Of Steel 2 will feature Batman as the villain, and end with Superman snapping his neck. No, no, no, Batman pulls a gun on Lois and Superman snaps his neck.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2013 08:55 |
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How many times has the puppy trained in 100x normal gravity?
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2014 19:43 |
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I'll have to see a very impressively detailed scale Lego model of a Kryptonian dropship before I can endorse any of this
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2014 07:34 |
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When a character says that something can't be done, and multiple characters of conflicting viewpoints do not disagree, and the film itself never contradicts this assertion, what this means is that the film is lying.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2014 07:36 |
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Baron Bifford posted:That doesn't mean nobody died off-screen. It's a film.
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# ¿ May 5, 2014 18:34 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:You people would LOVE Geoff Johns' work, I can tell. Don't be stupid. There's a difference between something overstuffed with gratuitous violence for shock effect and expecting a climactic action sequence in a packet metropolis to not be completely bloodless, sanitary and effortless. This isn't even some sort of dumb verisimilitude argument about whatever bullshit, The Avengers' climax suffers because it refuses to address that there are things at stake beside nebulous win/loss conditions. It lacks tension throughout and there's very little to be invested in beside flashy special effects and fan service. Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 05:37 on May 6, 2014 |
# ¿ May 6, 2014 05:34 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:But it comes from the same place, the argument that "stakes" require a body count. Stakes require a threat, the antagonists in The Avengers are completely non-threatening. It has nothing to do with some desperate outcry for extreme violence and 'this is where that line of thinking leads' is nonsense. The Avengers succeed in The Avengers only because it's made impossible for them to fail. Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 07:55 on May 6, 2014 |
# ¿ May 6, 2014 07:51 |
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corn in the bible posted:The Avengers is bad because it's a comic book movie.
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# ¿ May 6, 2014 07:56 |
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I would love to have the powers of Superman.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 05:48 |
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 06:57 |
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Grendels Dad posted:You know he just got there. Jenny only knew she was saved by someone, then saw Superman saving someone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl81iYhIJM&t=66s
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2014 11:14 |