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Here's my writeup of various things for wrestling novices. Feel free to tell me if I missed anything or made errors. VGCW: A Starter's Guide to Enjoying The Hilarity This guide is useful for those who have barely watched wrestling. People who have watched WWE will know the vast majority of this information- skip to the end and read the last two things. WAYS TO WIN (FALLS): PINFALL The most common fall, hold your opponent's shoulders to the floor for three consecutive seconds (which may be as short or as long as the referee likes you). With few exceptions, pinfalls must happen within the confines of the ring. SUBMISSION Get your opponent in a hold so painful he has no choice but to tap out and concede the match. Submissions must generally happen inside the ring. K.O. Your opponent gets knocked out. Most famous one of these is Nappa suplexing Gaben and destroying the ring. (Nappa won) DISQUALIFICATION Breaking the rules of a match (Using a weapon, getting outside help, or remaining outside the ring for more than a 10 count) will DQ you. If a title is on the line and the holder loses by DQ, generally the title does not change hands (Bazza may have it change hands, because I'm not sure if the game differentiates). Many match types have disqualification partially or wholly turned off- these are specialty matches. SPECIALTY MATCH TYPES TAG TEAM Either two or three people on a side. Standard tag matches have one legal competitor per team at a time, who can tag their teammates in at any time, and first side to score a fall wins the whole thing. Elimination tag matches have the victim of the fall getting eliminated, the side that loses all its competitors loses. Tornado tag team matches have all competitors legal at once. TRIPLE THREAT/FATAL FOUR WAY Three/four competitors enter, but the first to score a fall wins the whole thing. BATTLE ROYAL All competitors (up to six) enter at the start of the match, get eliminated when they're a victim of a fall. CAGE MATCH In a cage match, the ring is surrounded by an open-top cage. Victory is achieved by climbing the cage walls and being the first to touch the ground outside the cage. HELL IN A CELL Hell in a Cell looks similar to a cage match, but is very different. The cell is larger, covering a portion of the apron as well as the ring, and has a roof. Hell in a Cell matches otherwise generally have no special stipulations beyond being non-disqualification, but they're exceptionally deadly- see the first post with Proto Man getting Falconed Kicked off the cell through the announcing table. These matches will probably be a lot more rare, because AI vs AI seems to like to leave the cell and can't figure out how to get back in. LADDER MATCH In a ladder match, an object of value is hung above the ring. Victory is achieved by climbing a ladder and retrieving the object, usually a championship belt, or the nearly as coveted Money in the Bank Contract, which allows the holder to cash in his contract any time, any where, for the championship- Chief Heel Little Mac became champion by cashing his contract in immediately following Kratos' championship victory. There is no DQ in this match. TLC matches are ladder matches with tables and chairs placed around as additional legal weapons. INFERNO MATCH An inferno match is characterized by the fact that the ring is loving on fire. Victory in this match is achieved by setting your opponent aflame. In game terms, this is done by throwing your opponent out of the ring through the ropes. 'I QUIT' MATCHES The way you win is to crush your opponent's body and spirit so badly that he can't stand the pain of having a job anymore and quits the company. Bazza enforces this stipulation- you won't be seeing Ness anywhere. EXTREME RULES No disqualification. FALLS COUNT ANYWHERE There are no countouts and you can score a fall anywhere. ELIMINATION CHAMBER 2 competitors start, with 4 competitors surrounding in pods. Every few minutes one of the pods opens and another competitor enters. You are eliminated when an opponent scores a fall against you. Falls count anywhere and there is no DQ (it is impossible to get a weapon, because the entire area is enclosed- unlike HiaC, it cannot be escaped. HANDICAP MATCHES Similar to a tag match, except one side has less competitors than the other. Then can be contested under Tornado rules. Gauntlet has competitors entering the ring one at a time. IRON MAN The match goes on for a set amount of time. Each time you score a fall, the match goes on, but your score increases. Whoever has the most points at the end of the match wins. FIRST BLOOD First competitor to make their opponent bleeds wins. SPECIAL REF The referee is not the standard referee, but a wrestler or authority figure. This referee can be blatantly biased in his officiating. CHAMPIONSHIP SCRAMBLE Similar to an iron man match and a royal rumble- two opponents start the match, and every few minutes another one enters (up to six). When the clock ends, whoever has scored the most recent fall has won the title. I'm not sure if there has been a VGCW type of this match. SUBMISSION MATCH First to force a submission wins. You may have heard of the Segata-Arino match, which glitched out and went on for an hour and 45 minutes, when one of them tried to submit the ref and broke the game. Bazza eventually called it a draw. LAST MAN STANDING Victory is achieved when your opponent is down for a ten count. TWO OUT OF THREE FALLS Same as a standard match, but the first wrestler to TWO falls wins. ROYAL RUMBLE The best match type, generally almost the entire roster competes. Starts with two, and every few minutes another competitor enters the ring (due to game limitations, there can only be six people in the ring at a time). You get eliminated by being thrown over the top rope and touching the floor outside the ring. You'll know when that happens. KING OF THE RING A tournament consisting of multiple matches, all of which may be one of the above one on one match types. Generally, winner earns either a straight title shot or a #1 Contenders Match against another worthy competitor. THINGS OF NOTE Table-san The announcer table. In any given broadcast, noble table-san will be killed. THQuality When a match is so good, the game can't handle it and glitches out. Generally, when this happens Bazza quits and simulates the result (or declares a draw). Jobber In RL wrestling, a jobber is a "weak" wrestler who are paid to lose to the big-namers so they can show how strong they are. The term is generally insulting, all the more so in VGCW where none of the wrestlers actually are jobbers. BLANK screwed BLANK Reference to the RL Montreal Screwjob. Short story, Bret Hart was the champion, but was set to depart for WCW. Vince McMahon was paranoid about Bret taking the belt with him to WCW, but Survivor Series was in Canada, and Bret refused to drop the title in his home country. So Vince screwed him. He later said "Bret screwed Bret". Sky Shadowing fucked around with this message at Dec 16, 2012 around 01:56 |
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ScurvyKip posted:This is a pretty good list and helps explain things a bit for a new person like myself, but I'm still completely lost on half this terminology, having never watched wrestling in my life. This is probably a good list to get you started. Massive, but it should be a simple matter to look up things whose meanings you don't yet know here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossa...wrestling_terms
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You forgot the Face Announcer: Gruntilda Winkybottom.
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ScurvyKip posted:This is a pretty good list and helps explain things a bit for a new person like myself, but I'm still completely lost on half this terminology, having never watched wrestling in my life. You don't need to know much besides the win conditions. Royal rumble is a match where people enter every once in a while (40 people total) and are eliminated when they get thrown out of the ring. Inferno ends when someone gets kicked out through the flames. Money (coins) in the bank gives you a briefcase you can cash in at any time for a title match (cashing it in right after a grueling title match is the norm). Everything else is pretty self explanatory. Pin a dude, submit him, or knock him out and you win. I haven't watched actual wrestling in a decade or so but I remember about this much e: beaten by way better writeup Good Citizen fucked around with this message at Dec 15, 2012 around 03:58 |
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Did I miss it? It's just showing a static screen right now. 
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raditts posted:Did I miss it? It's just showing a static screen right now. Yeah, it generally starts at 5:00 PM EST with pre-show, then 6:00 with the official card (which contributes to story).
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According to the Google Doc thing, there have been two Elimination Chamber matches but neither was all that recent.
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raditts posted:Did I miss it? It's just showing a static screen right now. Yeah, dude is in the UK and usually starts at like 11pm his time. So like 6pm EST 3pm PST
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Thanks for all the useful info guys. Now I won't feel like I'm reading Russian when I'm in chat.
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3 pages already and no mention of Dr. Eggman's inspiring recovery from the stroke that nearly killed him? I am disappointed, thread. 
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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AnonSpore posted:3 pages already and no mention of Dr. Eggman's inspiring recovery from the stroke that nearly killed him? I am disappointed, thread. No way is anyone mentioning that before discussing #ALWAYSBETONDUKE. Speaking of which, I was so, so disappointed by how easily Protoman dispatched him tonight. I would have thought it would've been a closer match.
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Transient People posted:No way is anyone mentioning that before discussing #ALWAYSBETONDUKE. Speaking of which, I was so, so disappointed by how easily Protoman dispatched him tonight. I would have thought it would've been a closer match. Protoman has REAL balls of steel 
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Just watched tonight's archive and kind of ashamed that I watched as much as I did. WIth friends on a couch and the feed on the big screen with the chat there too seems like a great way to spend a night. Now to find friends that don't want to stop talking to me forever 2 sentences into explaining what this is. "Listen okay so we're going to get together and watch an internet stream of some dude who pits video game characters made in the create-a-super star mode against each other in WWE 13. This goes on for hours and there is actual rivalries and in-jokes."  No I am not a loser, hey why are you walking away?
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Don't forget to mention that there's no actual player input in the matches. You're watching glorified Mugen matches.  And it's glorious.
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Why have I never heard of this until now.  It sounds hilarious.
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Jon93 posted:Just watched tonight's archive and kind of ashamed that I watched as much as I did.
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Ganondorfs reign as champion was incredible and the best.
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Protoman is a fraud, he shouldn't have survived after being Falcon Kicked off the cage into Table-San during the last tournament, nor should he have survived after being thrown off the cage in the finals against The Good Doctor, Alberto del Wily. 
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Calling bullshit on Proto Man. I was robbed! He's obviously juicing.
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Volcano Style posted:
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I do kind of wish Bazza would adjust some of the AI sliders in the options (they still have those, right?). The counter rate is ridiculously high, and one count kickouts after finishers are pretty lame. Speaking of which, is it some kind of bug where two counts rarely happen? It's either one or three.
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PunkBoy posted:I do kind of wish Bazza would adjust some of the AI sliders in the options (they still have those, right?). The counter rate is ridiculously high, and one count kickouts after finishers are pretty lame. Speaking of which, is it some kind of bug where two counts rarely happen? It's either one or three.
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Got hooked on this a few days ago and love it. The only problem I have is the explosion of "JEW MAGIC, JEW GOLD," etc whenever Wario shows up. Aside from that the chat is much better than most Twitch chats. Also, 'Gief hitting the SPD on Waluigi outside the ring was sick. Then Wario almost had the 1v2 comeback.
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Static Rook posted:Got hooked on this a few days ago and love it. The only problem I have is the explosion of "JEW MAGIC, JEW GOLD," etc whenever Wario shows up. Aside from that the chat is much better than most Twitch chats. Stream chats have two constants: they're always hype and they're always terrible. Thankfully in this case they're hype enough to add to the stream in a way that completely overpowers the terribleness.
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Can someone explain what "jobber" means? I kind of got that it's someone who loses a lot (Vegeta), but why is it called that?
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Vertigo Ambrosia posted:Can someone explain what "jobber" means? I kind of got that it's someone who loses a lot (Vegeta), but why is it called that?
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Vertigo Ambrosia posted:Can someone explain what "jobber" means? I kind of got that it's someone who loses a lot (Vegeta), but why is it called that? It's wrestling lingo for a guy who is basically only there to lose/make other guys look good. Getting pinned is his 'job' you see. Also sometimes called 'enhancement talent'. It's less common than it used to be (guys will still get called 'jobbers' if they tend not to win very many matches, but it used to be guys would make a whole career out of just losing.) You could also call any loss by any wrestler a job.
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Vertigo Ambrosia posted:Can someone explain what "jobber" means? I kind of got that it's someone who loses a lot (Vegeta), but why is it called that? A wrestler who losses to make another wrestler look tough. Think Worf from Star Trek:NE.
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Vertigo Ambrosia posted:Can someone explain what "jobber" means? I kind of got that it's someone who loses a lot (Vegeta), but why is it called that? Professional wrestling is divided into main-eventers (who compete for the title), midcarders, and jobbers. A jobber is thus somebody who can lose to the midcarders and main eventers to make them look good. Their sole job is to lose. It's an insulting term. Even more so in VGCW, where nobody is an ACTUAL jobber.
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Bazza just posted a teaser video on his youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vZN0MlMwQA Someone just made a new PSN account
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Bazza just tweeted that a short bonus stream is going to happen soon, maybe he's gonna show off the female CAWs.
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He mentioned it in the stream chat as well. Short stream in 30 minutes
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It's live http://www.twitch.tv/bazza87
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Holepunchio posted:He mentioned it in the stream chat as well. Short stream in 30 minutes Stream's live!
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This chat's about to get real creepy.
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DIVAS ARE GO!
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Gimnbo posted:This chat's about to get real creepy. Yeah, considering the audience, I'm not sold on this idea.
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Good Citizen posted:Yeah, considering the audience, I'm not sold on this idea. Ya, this is my thought, but I'm at least willing to let this play out.
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So far we've had Chun, Peach, Samus, Tifa, Morrigan and
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I don't watch wrestling these days, but I'm not under the impression that real life diva matches are aimed at a much better audience. So might as well roll with it, I guess.
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