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Dias
Feb 20, 2011

He's the big guy.


TheEggsBenedict posted:

The Elite Two and Cammy were in a situation like Falcon is now, and they didn't get a rematch. I would prefer that Red gets a week off to have Barricade-kun's body parts removed from him.

Eh, but this one was a Falcon squash that somehow ended up with a countout decision. A rematch makes tons of sense. Either that or throw him against Groose.

(Barkley gets to face Red, wins that belt, cashes in on the Falcon/Groose match, stream monsters die of frothing rage)

EDIT: I book worse than Vince.

Dias fucked around with this message at May 24, 2013 around 17:19

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Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Gimnbo posted:

Falcon reset the count just to walk up and shittalk a dead man. He clearly doesn't give a drat about the title.
Yeah, I think it was his way of saying he should be fighting for the hardcore belt.

Hot Lead Allergy
Nov 9, 2007


Dias posted:

(Barkley gets to face Red, wins that belt, cashes in on the Falcon/Red rematch, stream monsters die of frothing rage)

This is how the VGCW ends. Not with a bang, but with a dunk.

TheEggsBenedict
Jan 4, 2013


Dias posted:

Eh, but this one was a Falcon squash that somehow ended up with a countout decision. A rematch makes tons of sense. Either that or throw him against Groose.

(Barkley gets to face Red, wins that belt, cashes in on the Falcon/Red rematch, stream monsters die of frothing rage)
Cammy's countout win against The Boss was also a squash, and I think Bazza once said that you can't use MITB for casual championships.

E: Ezio also held his own against the Gerudo skies, which is impressive considering he once lost to Waluigi of all people.

TheEggsBenedict fucked around with this message at May 24, 2013 around 17:22

Shogunate
Jul 12, 2010

I am not a demon. I am a lizard, a shark, a heat-seeking panther. I want to be Bob Denver on acid playing the accordion.

FANSean posted:

Does the AI change gears arbitrarily? (I wouldn't put it past THQuality) or does it actually take the opponent's condition into mind?

You're giving the AI too much credit. You only only spear people though the barricade if you have a finishing move stored, so Falcon stored a finisher and then the AI shifted into "ABLE TO WIN BY COUNTOUT, SHIFT TO COUNTOUT VICTORY CONDITION".

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011


TheEggsBenedict posted:

The Elite Two and Cammy were in a situation like Falcon is now, and they didn't get a rematch. I would prefer that Red gets a week off to have Barricade-kun's body parts removed from him.

To be fair, the Elite Two win was pretty much the most nonsensical and bullshit of THQuality finishes. They did not deserve a rematch given the way the match ended, and I say this as a Raph fan. Seriously, look at this.

The Cammy situation does stand as a clear-cut precedent for this sort of thing, though.

tooooooo bad
Jun 27, 2009

bad post bad post bad post

Watched the Red/Falcon match again with a tally counter. Red took 91 hits to the head, give or take a few. They weren't all punches, that number also includes other hits like the double Falcon Kick that drew blood.

Go RV!
Jun 19, 2008

Uglier on the inside.


Baz should just have Falcon say he didn't want the belt, he just wanted Red to show him his moves. Red then challenges Falcon again, title on the line, due to the shame.

Either that or Falcon takes his bounty money from Dan/Dracula, or whoever gets the next title shot.

Maximum Chenergy
Aug 30, 2007



Go RV! posted:

Baz should just have Falcon say he didn't want the belt, he just wanted Red to show him his moves. Red then challenges Falcon again, title on the line, due to the shame.

Either that or Falcon takes his bounty money from Dan/Dracula, or whoever gets the next title shot.

I like this idea since it gives Falcon a bit of character and plot he otherwise wouldn't get, and more characters need to get story eventually.

TheEggsBenedict
Jan 4, 2013


Go RV! posted:

Baz should just have Falcon say he didn't want the belt, he just wanted Red to show him his moves. Red then challenges Falcon again, title on the line, due to the shame.

Either that or Falcon takes his bounty money from Dan/Dracula, or whoever gets the next title shot.
Red's final evolution turns out to be Blood Falcon.

TheEggsBenedict fucked around with this message at May 24, 2013 around 18:00

CrushedB
Jun 1, 2008



Falcon has had some bad experiences with championship belts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUbqW7B1W6o

Hot Lead Allergy
Nov 9, 2007


CrushedB posted:

Falcon has had some bad experiences with championship belts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUbqW7B1W6o

Please let him beat Groose by count out so we can make this his canon excuse.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

I calculate not.

I liked the chat freaking out with "Falcon you idiot" when he broke up the first count, then it was explained that the belt couldn't change on a countout and he was actually being smart, then he didn't break up the second one. "Falcon you idiot"

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006



Red has some sort of unholy blood magic contract with demons. No matter who sheds the blood, he gets a power boost. Normally it's his opponents, but in that match, he started bleeding early on, and despite getting the stuffing knocked out of him constantly, kept up a good fight for another drat near ten minutes.

If the headcanon-embraced-by-everyone of "Eight badges then the Hardcore Title Shot), Falcon Rematch will have to occur. You can sequence break a gym, but that leader's still waiting for you.

And if it does, I can't wait

bladeworksmaster
Sep 6, 2010

Bluray? Psh, like THAT will ever catch on.


Archenteron posted:

Red has some sort of unholy blood magic contract with demons. No matter who sheds the blood, he gets a power boost. Normally it's his opponents, but in that match, he started bleeding early on, and despite getting the stuffing knocked out of him constantly, kept up a good fight for another drat near ten minutes.

If the headcanon-embraced-by-everyone of "Eight badges then the Hardcore Title Shot), Falcon Rematch will have to occur. You can sequence break a gym, but that leader's still waiting for you.

And if it does, I can't wait

Or he can take a leaf from Gary Oak's playbook and take 10 badges.

Shock Trooper
Oct 24, 2006



Can someone please repost a link to the audiofile of Jerry "The King" Lawler screaming in terror?

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012


If we ever get to see trio team entrances for one reason or another, I hope baz gives this one to the Grumps. Team them up with a super serious fighter like Ganon or something for added hilarity.

EDIT: This would be perfect for the Drac Pack too.

Rhonne fucked around with this message at May 25, 2013 around 01:35

Soulcleaver
Sep 25, 2007

Murderer

TheEggsBenedict posted:

Red's final evolution turns out to be Blood Falcon.
I got one even better.

Doctor Reynolds
Jul 18, 2008

And any story where he isn't, he helps you forget!


So that was a tag team I Quit match, right? Right?

Volcano Style
May 2, 2006

If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly--
75g



Shogunate posted:

Well thing with the AI is that it will never make any special changes for a title match, it won't even recognize it's in a title match and will just try to win the match regardless of victory. So during one point during that match Falcon's AI set itself to "VICTORY BY COUNTOUT" which usually means either hitting the opponent with a finisher outside the ring or by as also seen in Cammy's title match, spearing them through the barricade. Also when an AI sets itself to "VICTORY BY COUNTOUT" it will not break that setting and will for the remainder of the match attempt that victory condition. Once you notice it you'll always notice when an AI is set to Countout victory cause it will always try to irish whip the opponent outside the ring and into the corner barricade.
Sort of. It's a cross between having a finisher stored and deciding 'I will use this to put someone through the barricade' and 'if I am outside the ring past the count of 5 I will be covered in fire and scorpions, better stay in the ring and taunt spam.' If the count was 4 when Falcon had done the spear, he would have picked Red up.

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TheEggsBenedict
Jan 4, 2013


I have a slight feeling that might be a hard CAW to make. We do need a Contra rep though. Let's pin aggressively!

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