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Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


You lucked out but anyone with a surplus of stones should save it up for the christmas promotion.

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SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD


Two questions regarding skills:

1: how do I level up my skills? Is it by fusing my guy with things with the same skill? If I do that, do I have to fuse ONLY things with that skill or can I round out the 5 with something of another skill?

2: When the skills level do they power up? I'm asking because my Amaterasu's leader skill isn't doing a whole lot of healing and in wondering how it'll sustain me at higher levels. Is it a flat % of damage dealt?

opaopa13
Jul 25, 2007

EB: i'm in a rocket pack and i am about to blast off into space. it should be sweet.


SweetJahasus posted:

Two questions regarding skills:

1: how do I level up my skills? Is it by fusing my guy with things with the same skill? If I do that, do I have to fuse ONLY things with that skill or can I round out the 5 with something of another skill?

2: When the skills level do they power up? I'm asking because my Amaterasu's leader skill isn't doing a whole lot of healing and in wondering how it'll sustain me at higher levels. Is it a flat % of damage dealt?

Yeah, to improve an active skill's cooldown, fuse the monster with guys who have EXACTLY the same active skill, name and all. It doesn't matter what else you fuse it with, each one simply has some chance of improving the base monster's skill. I fed a Taur Demon two little demons once and got two Skill Ups from them.

Amaterasu's evolved form has a far superior Leader Skill. Both heal you every turn based on her RCV (so you can improve it by increasing her level and feeding her +1 RCV monsters), but her evolved version heals you for 5x her RCV stat. She's really nothing special until you evolve her, and then HOLY poo poo I'M INVINCIBLE.

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


1. yes same skill.

2. Skill level only affects the active skill and it only decreases the turn cooldown by 1 per level. Amaterasu starts off with the worst RCV out of all the five star healers but as she evolve and level up and get fed +1 rcv bonuses she will blow out the competition because her leader skill heals for 5 times her RCV, compared to 3x RCV the other 5* healers have. It's okay to bench her for another more useful leader in the early game and take a friend's 5* healer. It will take a while for him to get going but when he does

Vice Zoomler Aestro
Apr 4, 2003
pray the rosary dawgs


delfin posted:

L'il Dragons evolve into Dragons which evolve into bigger Dragons which evolve into 5* Dragons that are pretty beefy. They have a blast attack like starter dragons, but their leader skill is damage reduction (50% against enemies of their color). The evo materials aren't that outrageous to reach 5*, either (a dragon fruit, couple of dragon plants, a mythlit, a Keeper).

Also just tried out a Chaos Dragon Knight as an ally leader and holy poo poo I have 9904 HP.

The blast attack also has a cooldown of only 15 as opposed to 30 and seems to be significantly more powerful than the starters, at least compared to my 5* brachywhatever. I might ditch that for the green version of the lil' guy, since it's already at the 4* mode.

I've had lousy luck with the eggs. Did at least finally get the Lilith. Poison Mist sucks most of the time, but is a godsend against those monsters with super-high defense.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



I've barely played because I keep rerolling, but I got a 4* Shaitan so I said gently caress it and I'm just gonna play. Fire decks are pretty easy to build right?

As far as fusion goes, why fuse into carbuncles?

Spectral Werewolf
Jun 15, 2006

And if that wasn't funny, there were lots of things that weren't even funnier...


Vanilla Mint Ice posted:

You lucked out but anyone with a surplus of stones should save it up for the christmas promotion.

What is this christmas promotion exactly? I'm not seeing it previously mentioned.

Fazana
Mar 5, 2011

Dancing Elephant
Instructor


Metal Dragons are pure xp material if I've read correctly? I've got 6-7 purple ones in my inventory atm since other than a single yellow one time that's all I ever see drop. All but one are 1k and the odd one out is a very nice 10k.

I wish the UI would show you how much xp a unit would take to max, I've miscalculated more than once and blown well past what I would have needed. I only ever seem to get 1.5 multipliers when maxxing out as well Differing xp curves for most monster types don't help obviously!

Is it worth farming a Fire Snakewoman healer at only rank 18-20ish or should I just keep chugging through the dungeons to get the technical dungeons unlocked asap?

I've added/invited everyone from the thread ingame I believe, will keep an eye on the sheet for more.

Edit: VVVVV Bookmarked that xp chart, that's amazingly useful, cheers!

Fazana fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2012 around 21:18

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


No one knows but we're all assuming it and the new years promotion are going to be better than the standard ones.

Buhbuhj
Jul 14, 2004



Added my friend code to the goon list. Also a couple of the codes in the doc already have full friends lists, just a heads up.

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


Fazana posted:

Metal Dragons are pure xp material if I've read correctly? I've got 6-7 purple ones in my inventory atm since other than a single yellow one time that's all I ever see drop. All but one are 1k and the odd one out is a very nice 10k.

I wish the UI would show you how much xp a unit would take to max, I've miscalculated more than once and blown well past what I would have needed. I only ever seem to get 1.5 multipliers when maxxing out as well Differing xp curves for most monster types don't help obviously!

Is it worth farming a Fire Snakewoman healer at only rank 18-20ish or should I just keep chugging through the dungeons to get the technical dungeons unlocked asap?

I've added/invited everyone from the thread ingame I believe, will keep an eye on the sheet for more.

Metal dragons as in the dark color ones, yup. Sell the 1K exp metal dragons if you got no low levels or feeders to use them on. The chinese wiki has a really good exp chart: http://zh.pad.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%AE...%AA%8C%E8%A1%A8 Use find which xp tier your monster is in.

If you want to. Progress when you can in the normal dungeons while doing other stuff.


Didn't notice the new event this two week is the water sky dragon. drat I want to evolve my dryad so badly, I got a friend who has a neptune.

Lordy
Jan 2, 2011


Chaos Dragon Knight, keep or reroll? If anyone told me he's half decent I'd probably rather keep him than reroll again.

Also we should maybe have an irc channel or something for quick questions like this.

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Lordy posted:

Chaos Dragon Knight, keep or reroll? If anyone told me he's half decent I'd probably rather keep him than reroll again.

Also we should maybe have an irc channel or something for quick questions like this.

I've been using him, it's been working out pretty well. I'm not super duper far though. If you have a team of dragons it really boosts the hp.

Jeff Goldblum
Dec 3, 2009



I'm up to rank 20 and fire forest Nerva and I'm wondering why I'm pushing an archangel as my leader when my entire team is red. After some bad machine pulls I'm running a tyrannos, drall, red golem, red ogre and a red samurai goblin. Its the best I've got beside a blue golem and white knight. Is it worth holding out to find better mans or should I just reroll already?

Hakkeshu
Aug 10, 2005

Blinging in the Wastes!

I just hit rank 20, anyone wanna trade gifts? In game name is Cloraland ID is 337,536,290 I still have a few friend spots open.

Hakkeshu fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2012 around 22:08

opaopa13
Jul 25, 2007

EB: i'm in a rocket pack and i am about to blast off into space. it should be sweet.


zoux posted:

I've barely played because I keep rerolling, but I got a 4* Shaitan so I said gently caress it and I'm just gonna play. Fire decks are pretty easy to build right?

As far as fusion goes, why fuse into carbuncles?

It's just to save on gold cost. The cost is based on the base monster's level, so it's far cheaper to compile your monsters into a level 3 Carbuncle before feeding it to your high level dude. As for why Carbuncles, I'm guessing it's some combination of their leveling curse being the gentlest in the game, their 2* status and their high drop rate. Evolved Knights should be even better, but by the time those regularly drop you can probably just hunt Pendara instead.

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


Jeff Goldblum posted:

I'm up to rank 20 and fire forest Nerva and I'm wondering why I'm pushing an archangel as my leader when my entire team is red. After some bad machine pulls I'm running a tyrannos, drall, red golem, red ogre and a red samurai goblin. Its the best I've got beside a blue golem and white knight. Is it worth holding out to find better mans or should I just reroll already?

Well I dunno. You're not going to find an easier start than starting out with a 5* healer but you will have a lot of farming ahead of you since you didn't get anything good with your free pulls. Are you keeping your friends list up to date like deleting people who haven't played in awhile? You should be flooded with pal points. If you go in with a friend leader who has 1.5x or 2x fire atk you should be able to breeze through the first three set of dungeons.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010


Huh...I've been playing the iPad version for a few days now, and figured I'd start a second game on my Android phone. First rare ended up being a +1 Thanatos. Is this amazing, or is he one of the lackluster "very rares"?

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


He's crap. All the 2.5x hp leader skill with ignore x damage active skill monsters are poor starters.

Fazana
Mar 5, 2011

Dancing Elephant
Instructor


Just hit 20, anyone want to do a present/premium egg swap?

Edit: Gone for the evening now, will check again tomorrow.

Fazana fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2012 around 23:53

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010


Vanilla Mint Ice posted:

He's crap. All the 2.5x hp leader skill with ignore x damage active skill monsters are poor starters.

drat! And here I thought I may have hit the jackpot. Thanks for the heads up.

On the other hand, my iPad game acquired Naga, Vampire, and Naga on my three rare rolls. I heard Naga is pretty good to have, but are two viable in a fire build?

Or should I say screw both of them and go dark build with the vampire?

DontMindMe fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2012 around 23:29

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

Fleets of taxis stall in the fog, passengers fall asleep. Gas pours from a tri-color stack.

Is anyone else noticing that P&D is keeping their Android phone awake after playing it? I'm getting a slight CPU usage and increased battery drain well after closing down the app. Sorry for the technical question, but freemium apps like this always spook me (I'm on a GS3 if that matters)

But Rocks Hurt Head fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2012 around 23:28

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


You rarely need two nagas but having the option of bringing an extra when you might feel like needing two doesn't hurt.

I will say this and repeat it: no matter what type of build or team you are running, you will ALWAYS want to have a monster with menace (naga, orochi), a moster with poison (succubus, neptune) and a 5* healer (mermaid, cupid, dryad, amaterasu) on your roster.

No matter what type of build or team you are running, you will ALWAYS want to have a monster with menace (naga, orochi), a monster with poison (succubus, neptune) and a 5* healer (mermaid, cupid, dryad, amaterasu) on your roster.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

Fleets of taxis stall in the fog, passengers fall asleep. Gas pours from a tri-color stack.

VMI, when do you recommend starting to seriously teambuild, as in farming and planning rosters, instead of just blowing through Normal dungeons with what's on hand / what you pick up through casual play?

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


Honestly, until you unlock technical dungeons. Everyone should be able to finish the first three set of normal dungeons with just regular stuff if you have friends with good leaders like a 5* healer or a good lvl30 5 star monster. But more likely than not, you'll be waiting on that one guy or two to log back in so you can keep going so during this downtime you could start planning with what you got, what you need, and doing dungeons that you already beat to farm for rares or exp.

If you guys are having trouble finding and keeping friends with a 5 star healer I'll free up some room on my friends list for you guys when I get my own 5* healer. Though I would like it if you remove yourself once you find someone else with a 5* healer and/or beat the castle of satan.

Voodoo
Jun 3, 2003

m2sbr what

What's the deal with the special dragon dungeon that popped today? I assume that's one of the timer things tied to your user id that I see some stuff about?

I was able to score a King Emerald Dragon who is good for 82k xp to a greenie and a bunch of emeralds to upgrade my Pendras (now worth 45k xp each). Seeing as how I don't have a 5* green mob, would it be worth it to make a serious push to get my Earth Dragon up to level 70? Or should I save them and see if anything comes down the line?

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007



This looks kind of interesting. Was going to wait and see if it turned up in the UK store, but making a US account was way easier than I thought it would be.

Only just started, but my number is 331,731,298 if anyone wants to add me.

Deep Winter
Mar 26, 2010


So I got a Dryad and cupid. 4 star.I think? If I level them up will they be five stars?

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Uhrman-chan~
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Rank 20, present time! My ID is 328,835,291. Let me know if you wanna swap presents.

Hakkeshu
Aug 10, 2005

Blinging in the Wastes!

XboxPants posted:

Rank 20, present time! My ID is 328,835,291. Let me know if you wanna swap presents.

I will, will send a invite to you.

MrMoose
Jan 4, 2003

Happy Happy Joy Joy


I have a dilemma.

In reading the thread, it seems a Siren is very good (As per the OP), but I can get one later. I kept rerolling until I got her.

The question is, is it worth continuing to reroll for a god, or do I just run with Siren and be happy? Am I losing much by not going for a God?

MrMoose fucked around with this message at Dec 18, 2012 around 02:54

Voodoo
Jun 3, 2003

m2sbr what

Deep Winter posted:

So I got a Dryad and cupid. 4 star.I think? If I level them up will they be five stars?
Generally yeah, but it might take a while to get there. Usually takes quite a good bit of levels and materials to do it.

MrMoose posted:

I have a dilemma.

In reading the thread, it seems a Siren is very good (As per the OP), but I can get one later. I kept rerolling until I got her.

The question is, is it worth continuing to reroll for a god, or do I just run with Siren and be happy? Am I losing much by not going for a God?
If you want to see how it plays out a little bit longer, you should be able to play through the first five dungeons in one sitting - then see what you get with the five magic eggs you earn from them.

Trainmonk
Jul 4, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


Anyone want to do a present swap?

roboticbears
Jan 12, 2012

Hell is other people.


My first pull was a 6* Loki. Is this worth starting with? Did the first five dungeons and second pull was 4* Fairlion which seems meh? I still only have a mediocre handle on what is decent.

Hakkeshu
Aug 10, 2005

Blinging in the Wastes!

roboticbears posted:

My first pull was a 6* Loki. Is this worth starting with? Did the first five dungeons and second pull was 4* Fairlion which seems meh? I still only have a mediocre handle on what is decent.

Keep it! 2x and heal for dark monsters is amazing.

OK Octopus
Nov 26, 2007

drunk octopus
wants to fight you


Is it actually possible to catch the boss monsters in the regular dungeons? I know you can sometimes grab the Mythlit "bosses" in the Friday dungeon, but I didn't know if that transferred over to the normal ones as well.

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.


Yeah, if you're not sure check the wikis like this: http://zh.pad.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%B7...%81%AE%E5%A1%94

If there's an icon and and a lvl then it's been confirmed to drop.

Oceanbound
Jan 19, 2008

回回回回回回回回回


Many bosses can be captured in normal dungeons, but the drop rate is extremely low. Some bosses like mystic knights will not drop at all. The Chinese wiki has pages for specific dungeons that mention whether a boss will drop or not.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008


A couple questions:

1)Amaterasu is my leader, should I try to keep an all-light team? I have a Mystic Light Knight from my second pull (maybe I'm fated to be a light team), but other than that I have nothing else and use some decent reds instead. I have some floaty guy who turns health bubbles into reds, but if a split team is just philosophically bad I'll try to stay pure light.

2)I'm on the third set of dungeons and the going is getting a bit slow. Should I plow through or go back and farm some lower level guys to level up what I do use?

3)When would be a good time to start leveling Amaterasu? She (he?) needs tons of xp and it seems like even using lvl 10 carbuncles would take forever at this point.

4)Golems seem pretty crappy to me. Should I just use them as feeders, or should I keep one around? (I'm bad at choosing monsters, I fed my Titans to a Golem in a fit of feeblemindedness)

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But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

Fleets of taxis stall in the fog, passengers fall asleep. Gas pours from a tri-color stack.

So, apparently Square doesn't mind all this copyright infringement?

Now I want a Bangaa.

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