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PateraOctopus
Oct 27, 2010

It's not enough to listen, it's not enough to see
When the hurricane is coming on, it's not enough to flee

Benson Cunningham posted:

I liked it, just not as much. Though upon a reread, there are a few pacing problems in the first book.

A few? That book easily could've had 250-300 pages cut from it without sacrificing any forward momentum. Like the scene in which, having just heard in dialogue how two characters broke into a mansion, subdued the guard and laid in wait for the master of the house, we see how those two characters broke into the mansion, subdued the guard and laid in wait for the master of the house (surprise:it happened exactly the way they said it did fifteen pages earlier). Or the constant putting the brakes on full-stop to explain about a bit of architecture, or current fashion in the city, or political realities whose effects have already been made abundantly clear without being fully explicated. And then there's the 50+ page interlude about Locke acquiring a particular suit of clothes, which introduces several new characters and a brand new, fully-realized con, all of which culminates in Locke getting the suit he needed with no complications and never seeing any of those new characters again, except for one who appears for approximately fifteen seconds to deliver a "Hey, those clothes sure look familiar!" joke and then disappear again. The only purpose that entire extended set-piece serves is to further establish that Locke thinks quickly in tight circumstances and can wrap powerful people around his finger, which has already been well-established--it could easily be replaced with any number of simpler ways for Locke to get fancy clothes and change the rest of the book in nothing but incredibly minor ways.

I do really enjoy the books, but rereading the first one five years later it's really clear that it's a first novel (albeit one by somebody who can write a really fun story).

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PateraOctopus
Oct 27, 2010

It's not enough to listen, it's not enough to see
When the hurricane is coming on, it's not enough to flee

BananaNutkins posted:

Republic of Thieves just got brutalized by Pat's Fantasy Hotlist. The tears...they are flowing.

Fingers crossed that he just has bad taste on this one. he hated it. First hundred pages are good and then it just falls apart

Considering what a shitpile that website is my anticipation for this book just shot up four notches.

PateraOctopus
Oct 27, 2010

It's not enough to listen, it's not enough to see
When the hurricane is coming on, it's not enough to flee

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Fantasy writers always write romance like 15 year-old boys. At least he's better than Rothfuss.

A potato is better than Rothfuss.

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