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Will people even buy TF2 items with paypal anymore now that the Steam marketplace exists? I mean, steam games are fine and all, but when I want to get rid of items I'd kind of like to do so in a way that could help me eat or make insurance payments.The Kins posted:You know what, I'm just gonna say it. We should nerf Scouts. I mean, look at this! Not gonna lie, sometimes it feels like this happens whenever a good player picks Scout on a pub. It's just that noticeable when a good one runs in.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 13:16 |
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:42 |
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On the backpack expander note, the one I bought for 99c and listed on outpost already sold for a key. So it's possible, anyway. Having said that, keys on the market are way down to like $2 from a previous perch of $2.40ish.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 13:36 |
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I need a pricecheck on a Smoking Pith Helmet (level 100 if that matters), please.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 13:45 |
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Xander77 posted:I need a pricecheck on a Smoking Pith Helmet (level 100 if that matters), please. According to backpack.tf 18-20 keys, but I have no idea if that's right or not. http://backpack.tf/unusuals/439/Lor...27s_Pith_Helmet e: it's not a desired hat or a desired effect, so I would guess that it's a pretty low price, but I really don't deal with unusuals much so I couldn't say.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 13:53 |
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The Kins posted:You know what, I'm just gonna say it. We should nerf Scouts. I mean, look at this! I like how even god scout can't kill a heavy. 
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| # ? May 18, 2013 14:38 |
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Jabor posted:The first half of this post is good example of rationalizing away a poor investment. If they don't go up (or they go up less than a strange knife does), you could have maxed out even more storage alts for the same price - essentially, you lost money. Phrasing it as anything else is just a way to avoid realizing and dealing with that possibility. This would all hold more weight if the person you're talking to wasn't a huge TF2 trader who $60 of expanders probably isn't much of an expenditure given what all they actually own and could actually use the things for alts to hold more items to move, anyways.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 14:42 |
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:This would all hold more weight if the person you're talking to wasn't a huge TF2 trader who $60 of expanders probably isn't much of an expenditure given what all they actually own and could actually use the things for alts to hold more items to move, anyways. Hey, it's almost like this is something I said earlier: Jabor posted:The same principles apply whether we're talking $50 or $50M. The only difference is that people are better able to subconsciously rationalize poor investments when the money involved is relatively small (this is how microtransactions work, for example).
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| # ? May 18, 2013 14:45 |
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Jabor posted:The first half of this post is good example of rationalizing away a poor investment. If they don't go up (or they go up less than a strange knife does), you could have maxed out even more storage alts for the same price - essentially, you lost money. Phrasing it as anything else is just a way to avoid realizing and dealing with that possibility.  It is an investment, a small one, that I have no problem losing but don't believe it can possibly fall lower than it currently is unless they permanently lower the price to 99 cents. If that happens, then yeah, but I don't think they will.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 14:46 |
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Jabor posted:Hey, it's almost like this is something I said earlier: Considering that Invictus traded in a Strange Festive Knife that's been falling in price for it all and not real cash right off the bat kinda negates a large part of the argument considering it was more or less a pixels for pixels trade, except the new pixels have a better chance of gaining more value. Also, I have the new Robo-Bonk hat and Bolt Boy visor for Scout, so I've been meaning to assemble a 'full' outfit around them, with a Track Terrorizer or Fast Learner painted Australium Gold to fit the color scheme. I think it'd look neat.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 14:52 |
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Looking back to teamfortress after not playing for afew years, it scares me to think that shortly after I left a hat based economy sprung up, with hats being worth hundreds of dollars, real dollars.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 14:52 |
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Pallet of crates are pretty drat amazing. Not only do you get a chance of getting a salvaged crate but also a chance of getting another robocrate. I've made enough money to buy robokeys by just idling in trade servers and selling all the extra robocrates I've gotten  We should all hold a pallet of crate party 
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| # ? May 18, 2013 14:56 |
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Opened a robocrate and got a robot gibus. Time to go hang myself 
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| # ? May 18, 2013 16:58 |
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Wheeze posted:Opened a robocrate and got a robot gibus. Nope, that's gonna be the new ironically cool hat. Especially if it's unusual.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 17:00 |
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Figured I'd chip in for TF2 since I play it so much (just passed 1k hours  ).Noble Nickel Amassment, Respectless Robo-Glove, and a Bunsen Brave.  Nothing unusual, but I never get those anyway. Also a Gridiron Guardian, but 3 out of 4 hats being decent ain't bad in my book. My manns have some shiny new robohats 
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| # ? May 18, 2013 17:14 |
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So, are robocrates worth the gamble of buying a key? Also, are salvaged crates (40/50) worth opening?
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| # ? May 18, 2013 17:32 |
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Xander77 posted:So, are robocrates worth the gamble of buying a key? Much like buying lotto tickets, in terms of cash value you are always better off not opening crates. Salvaged crates are worth a lot all on their own but many of the stranges are worth a fair bit as well.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 17:35 |
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Xander77 posted:So, are robocrates worth the gamble of buying a key? It depends on if you think the items in the crate are neat enough to warrant it. There's a lot of them, so even if it's something you don't want to use chances are you'll be able to trade it for something else from the Robocrates. Also, Salvaged Crates are kind of a gamble since some items in them are worth more than others, while the crate itself generally stays around the same price.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 17:37 |
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Welp, I did it. I went into a Turbine server, went Gunslinger engineer, and immediately proceeded to ruin the fun on the server, because 2 other engineers saw the mini and decided they too would get in on the fun. We ended up dominating Turbine mid with 3 mini-engineers while our team tried to push into their sentry-infested intel room (they had 5 engineers apparently  ).One guy on the other team started going on (on alltalk) about how minis should be banned from the server, and some of his teammates agreed, while I goaded them on. They tried everything, from immediately switching to a heavy-medic combo, stacking soldiers and demomen (at least we did some good here), stacking pyros, and even calling for a scramble. It didn't help that they spent the whole time trying to organize their strategies through all-talk, so we kinda expected all their rushes. I mean come on, they built one uber, failed to rush on that uber (ubering the heavy no doubt), and immediately gave up trying to push with a medic. It was the most thing just watching them try different strategies and fail at each one, considering only two engineers were actively putting their minis in offensive positions. I was just hanging back watching and defending mid.
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One of the most dickish but hilarious things you do on Turbine is put a sentry next to the spawn door leading out to mid and constantly change it's location, around those doors. You'll constantly have people trying to peek a boo a sentry that's not there anymore and get shot in the back. Still, I'm amazed that you manage to lock it down that well. Though I'm really not surprised to see Turbine devolve into Engineer wars: 
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Xander77 posted:So, are robocrates worth the gamble of buying a key? With Robocrates, unlike 'regular' crates, you will always get a hat or a misc. (With a couple weapon reskins thrown in that are nice, I think - such as sandvich.) From what I understand, the robo-crate key money goes directly and collectively towards the community members who created those items. You support the TF2 community when you buy them. So really, rather than "is this key worth the gamble" you should be asking yourself "how much fun-money do I want to budget to spend getting some random neat items and helping the TF2 community?" You will get some hats/miscs that you can use or trade away, and the TF2 community members who made the items get some money from the keys. It's win-win. Spacedad fucked around with this message at May 18, 2013 around 18:05 |
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Corgi posted:Got a Bonk Leadware, Bot Dogger and a Base Metal Billycap, which are okay but not what I was after! I'll trade any of them for Byte'd Beak/Mechamedes/Practioner's Processing Mask or Pyro's birdcage/filamental/gunslinger hat. There's a mannconomy thread for trading in the private servers area. But, I'll trade you the birdcage for the bonk leadware. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Zazzblammy/
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:05 |
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Why would I want to help the tf2 community?
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:06 |
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Qwo posted:Why would I want to help the tf2 community? Because there's a marked difference between the people who put a bunch of time and effort into making stuff for the game and the turds who whine and cry about everything on the official Steam Forums.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:12 |
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I'm sorry, I should have been more specific - "people who actually put effort into making things" is what I meant by "community."
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:15 |
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Speaking of Backpack Expanders and speculation, I have to admit that I did buy six of them and have them sitting around just in case. It's a win-win situation for me whether or not they go up in price and I profit off of them via Steam money or items. Worst case scenario, I could always use extra bag slots, and $5 was always pushing it, but at $1 I have no problem. I have one page of inventory dedicated for each class, except for Soldier who gets two because I have way too many Soldier items. Both Demoman and Pyro are reaching Soldier amounts of items for me as well, so the expanders will definitely help out with my item organization.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:18 |
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Spacedad posted:With Robocrates, unlike 'regular' crates, you will always get a hat or a misc. (With a couple weapon reskins thrown in that are nice, I think - such as sandvich.) The only weapon reskin found from Robocrates is the Battery Canteen. The robosandvich is from an entirely different promo and cannot be obtained from them.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:19 |
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I'm guessing these new unusual effects are still stupid rare?
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:20 |
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Pindakaas posted:I'm guessing these new unusual effects are still stupid rare? They seem to uncrate more commonly than unusuals from "normal" crates, but yeah, it's still pretty rare. STAR_ put up a video yesterday of opening 50 crates.. didn't get poo poo.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:23 |
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It's a shame we didn't get some of the items created for the fan-update, though. There were a few weapon reskins that didn't make it in, and a number of hats that didn't for some obvious reasons(bill's hat, max's head, dangeresque glasses, etc).   And more here, including some early versions of ones we got.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:25 |
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xzzy posted:They seem to uncrate more commonly than unusuals from "normal" crates, but yeah, it's still pretty rare. STAR_ put up a video yesterday of opening 50 crates.. didn't get poo poo. Brohannes Brahms opened 100 of them and didn't get anything, Line Feed opened two and got an unusual. It's all stupid luck.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:31 |
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| # ? May 18, 2013 18:42 |
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Yeah, people really need to remember that there's no crate combo multiplier or whatever going on for this stuff. There's a small chance to get an unusual and that's going to stay static no matter what. Saying 'I opened X crates and didn't get anything!' basically means nothing from a mathematical standpoint.
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