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Chibs posted:That's a shame. :[ It costs 130 metal to remote-pickup a building, so no.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 17:38 |
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You can also just pick up the building anyways. I would think that it's more useful for turtle engineers since they can emergency heal stuff as they run around or remote-grab a sentry if it's about to get blown up without risking themselves.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 17:42 |
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Since you can't heal mini sentries, Rescue Ranger doesn't replenish ammo, and it costs less to just drop a new sentry, there's ZERO point in using it with the Gunslinger. I can see some use with an L3, as it's easier to move your sentry ahead when you don't have to carry it the whole way, but that's only if you're on defense and are winning so hard you're considering pushing up.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 17:46 |
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Would anyone like to join in for some MvM on the new maps? Manning up. The Goons vs Machine group is dead now sadly  My SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/makobro/
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 17:48 |
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Sudo Echo posted:It costs 130 metal to remote-pickup a building, so no. Well poo on that
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 17:51 |
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I'm always a tad sad when new weapons are released and they turn out to be awful. This update was slightly better than, say, last christmas due to the rescue ranger and the cannon thing being at least fun things to play with, but I really had my hopes for the Vaccinator. That said, I really like the fact that Baby's Face Blaster is (apparently?) considered a good (or maybe just fun?) weapon!
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 18:06 |
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Chibs posted:How's the Rescue Ranger? Seems like something that would make minis even more of an annoyance because you don't have to poo poo out another 100 metal to replace a gun when you're moving up. No, instead you have to poo poo out 130 metal to carry the first one with you.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 18:08 |
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I'm thinking the Vaccinator might just be balanced if they remove the slow-overheal attribute. I'll have to try it out myself, though. Which would also be nice because it'd simplify the stats, which is good (when they're already very different). I feel like there's a balance to strike between tacking on a half-dozen attributes creating a convoluted mess, and making something that's barely different at all (like the Winger).
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 18:54 |
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First time playing in a few months, jump in a server, end up in a 6v9, with half the team spies, against two minisentries, a heavy/medic and a scout who can actually aim. Why do I keep playing this poo poo. Like, I don't understand how we had a decent comp until the heavy appeared and then half the team instantly went spy. Why, why do you do this? Man. This isn't a good game for people who like to win. Xenaero fucked around with this message at Dec 21, 2012 around 19:07 |
| # ? Dec 21, 2012 18:58 |
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I just hope they keep rolling with this secondary/tertiary button stuff. Could be some really interesting weapons coming down the pipe later.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:04 |
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Hempuli posted:That said, I really like the fact that Baby's Face Blaster is (apparently?) considered a good (or maybe just fun?) weapon! It's more fun than good. It's "good" in that it's got amazing applications for deathmatching and pubstomping, but being good at Running Away Really Quickly does not help much for actually accomplishing objectives.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:05 |
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Gabriel Pope posted:It's more fun than good. It's "good" in that it's got amazing applications for deathmatching and pubstomping, but being good at Running Away Really Quickly does not help much for actually accomplishing objectives. It's great for getting to places where people would never expect you to be getting to that fast, flanking and 'backstabbing' by dashing in, landing a point-blank meatshot to get rid of a medic, then running the gently caress away before the heavy turns around. That and 90mph fish-kills.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:10 |
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Xenaero posted:First time playing in a few months, jump in a server, end up in a 6v9, with half the team spies, against two minisentries, a heavy/medic and a scout who can actually aim. Why do I keep playing this poo poo. Heavies, man. Heavies ruin everything. As soon as one person goes heavy, literally everything becomes awful.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:10 |
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Idunno man, I've slowly made my way back onto TF2 these last few days, and playing sniper has proved incredibly fun (and productive, my aim isn't poo poo now). Fun as in landing headshot after headshot on the fat loving heavies pushing the cart while their medics frantically try to keep them alive. Aside from those, headshotting every other class is getting pretty easy, except for scouts. gently caress scouts. 
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:23 |
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I have an extra pair of Scout's gloves from the new crate - anyone have any other new items? I don't need a kilt or a sniper hat or a muffler, but I'd trade it for another Nice crate item. http://steamcommunity.com/id/otacon
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:38 |
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Two crate drops, and no smissmas crate. I thought they dropped togethe/r Also, It's incredibly annoying to come home and have tf2 not be updated. You're suppose to update while im at work game! Other steam games do it! What are you doing! e: Also, one of the crates, i think 54, and no items listed on it, and when i unboxed it, i got nothing. What? e2: Relogged, it gave me a Strange Part: Kills while Ubercharged. Okay. Deep Winter fucked around with this message at Dec 21, 2012 around 19:56 |
| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:45 |
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a pro prolapse posted:Huh. I was wondering why there's also this coloured line that runs along the back of them: Thats a texture seam.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:46 |
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A shrubbery! posted:It's great for getting to places where people would never expect you to be getting to that fast, flanking and 'backstabbing' by dashing in, landing a point-blank meatshot to get rid of a medic, then running the gently caress away before the heavy turns around. The problem is that your "backstab" does about 70 damage. Great for harassment, but takes too long to get kills. Melee blaster is fantastic though and I'll always think the blaster is a particularly inspired bit of design since it makes all the scout melee options as fun as the atomizer without hurting the atomizer 
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:48 |
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Scouts seem to be the only class I can headshot. I'd probably be called a hacker if everyone didn't see me missing afk heavies 3 times in a row.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:50 |
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Drive-by fish attacks with the baby's face blaster are great. It basically turns the game into doom if you're a scout. You've got the single shotgun and you're running around at maximum speed trying to dodge rockets without jumping.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 19:50 |
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So the festive huntsman is seriously broken. I've been shooting down projectiles with it all day (rockets, arrows, needles even!) and it tends to get stuck in walls when you're trying to shoot around a corner. Very frustrating  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLKIgiXAyC8
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:00 |
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Well yeah, did you see the lightbulb on the arrowhead? Its at least three times as wide as normal. Also re: the Pyro boots- everyone on Metalocalypse wears those big shin-high leather boots because they're metal. Everyone except Pickles, but drummers have good reason to wear sneakers instead.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:28 |
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I am Reverend posted:Salamancer tried to use the Vaccinator in 6v6. We used to frequent the same server and be steam friends and play on the same highlander team and boy you should have been around for his spergy ranting when the Quick-Fix came out. Basically when I saw a new medigun coming out for christmas I knew this guy was going to holler NO NEW MEDIGUNS FINAL DESTINATION KRITZ ONLY.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:30 |
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Opened two naughty crates and got two of the festives I wanted - Huntsman and Holy Mackerel. Neither is strange, but that's okay. I also can't believe people are trying to sell holiday keys on the market for more than store price. If people are actually buying though, more power to them.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:31 |
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Are the Naughty crates rarer than the Nice crates or something? I bought 2 Naughty keys, and after 5 hours, all that I've found are Nice crates.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:39 |
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m2pt5 posted:Opened two naughty crates and got two of the festives I wanted - Huntsman and Holy Mackerel. Neither is strange, but that's okay. They are.  in THIIIS ecocnomy....
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:39 |
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Magypsy posted:Are the Naughty crates rarer than the Nice crates or something? I bought 2 Naughty keys, and after 5 hours, all that I've found are Nice crates. I think it's a 50/50 chance, I happened to get 2 Naughty Crates at the same time along with a regular crate drop. (Neither of which contained a strange festive.)
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:41 |
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Magypsy posted:Are the Naughty crates rarer than the Nice crates or something? I bought 2 Naughty keys, and after 5 hours, all that I've found are Nice crates. Why would you buy a key for a crate you don't have? They're a store item, summoned from the æther by Valve. They're not gonna run out?
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I was hoping that I'd have found a Naughty crate by now. I can always sell the keys if I don't manage to find any, I suppose.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:50 |
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If you haven't already, I suggest trying the new Dead Ringer glitch on MVM. Due to an error in having max crit-resistance, you can get insane amounts of overheal if you are at low health and then damaged by critical weapons while dead ringing. In the second-to-last wave of Broken Parts I had over 10,000 HP  due to letting a crit-pyro light me up undisguised and then having all the crit-robots shoot the poo poo out of me 
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Magypsy posted:I was hoping that I'd have found a Naughty crate by now. I can always sell the keys if I don't manage to find any, I suppose. I would imagine that they'll plummet in price on the last day as people want to unload before they expire.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 20:56 |
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Irish Taxi Driver posted:Thats a texture seam. Yeh that'll get patched in a week or two I'm betting.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 21:00 |
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Orange Harrison posted:We used to frequent the same server and be steam friends and play on the same highlander team and boy you should have been around for his spergy ranting when the Quick-Fix came out. Basically when I saw a new medigun coming out for christmas I knew this guy was going to holler NO NEW MEDIGUNS FINAL DESTINATION KRITZ ONLY. Except the Quick-Fix is completely awful in every way. And before this gets into a big stupid argument about how WELL IF YOU CARE MORE ABOUT HEALING THAN YOUR UBER and WELL IT LETS ME ROCKET JUMP let me stop you by saying: No. You're wrong. Don't post.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 21:24 |
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Silentman0 posted:Except the Quick-Fix is completely awful in every way. The Quick-Fix is the funhaving mann's weapon. Only when you harness its purest power and ignore your entire team to go dump on chumps in a circle around the map can you know the truest fun. And then the enemy Sniper that can actually aim ruins everything. Snipers are always jerks.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 21:26 |
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Silentman0 posted:Except the Quick-Fix is completely awful in every way. The Quick-Fix lets you throw CraigK in front of a train. 
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 21:28 |
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I just finished one of the new MvM missions. Does it seem like they're a little more difficult than the original advanced missions? As in, more in line with expert difficulty? Or am I just not used to the new maps and challenges? CAPTAIN PUNCH IS FUN. Heavy knockback really stings him though, since he moves so slow as it is.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 21:36 |
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McPhock posted:I just finished one of the new MvM missions. I think they're just different enough from the first and second batches that we don't know how to win them yet.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2012 21:48 |
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I would say that it's probably a little too early to drat the Vaccinator, it's only been out a day. People getting used to the different playstyle for it might help a bit instead of them just going I HATE IT AND IT'S TERRIBLE PLEASE NEVER USE THIS. (Could probably use a faster overheal to some extent, that does seem like a huge setback.) (Quick-Fix is still indefensible.) e: Had a few people using it on me last night when I was playing Soldier, and the sheer amount of ubers that can be popped off is crazy. Agent Kool-Aid fucked around with this message at Dec 21, 2012 around 22:01 |
| # ? Dec 21, 2012 21:53 |
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I think they're just different enough from the first and second batches that we don't know how to win them yet. The thing is, once you're used to the huge size of the map in terms of knowing where to regroup if you're pushed back, and know how to take out Engineers efficiently, it's mostly just the same as it's been before. There are a few legitimate-good waves like one which is non-stop spies, but I really hate how most of the difficult missions like this are just endless giants and tanks with not much in terms of originality or unique mechanics. It's like an MMO raid where you're just fighting endless trash mobs, and instead of a boss you just get more difficult trash.
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:I would say that it's probably a little too early to drat the Vaccinator, it's only been out a day. People getting used to the different playstyle for it might help a bit instead of them just going I HATE IT AND IT'S TERRIBLE PLEASE NEVER USE THIS. The problem with it being a different playstyle is that it's kind of a bad playstyle. Thanks to the crappy overheal, it's worse than the Medigun at keeping your whole team filled up and topped off, it's hard to use its benefits without sticking to a single person, and even the uber won't save you if you're up against two enemies at the same time. It could be a great pubstomp medigun, but the limitation of only granting resistance to one damage type at any given time means it's never going to really be a useful Medic tool unless they change it, at least during the ubers.
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