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Backstory My chief problem is depression. Depression and laziness. Laziness and depression. My two problems are laziness and depression. And boredom. (et cetera) I peaked at 350 a few years ago when I was on steroids for a kidney problem. But that was years ago, and my attempts to get back to a normal human size have failed. So I'm going to try a TFLC log, since getting banned from the forums would be incredibly depressing to me. This should provide additional motivation. I have some mental problems that make things complicated for me. Depression, ADD, social anxiety/phobia, some OCD, really low self-esteem. All kinds of fun stuff. I've gone through a bunch of attempts at dealing with these things (yes, I am on medication and I see a shrink) and their effects on my weight loss. I think I might have come up with something workable this time. I'm planning a series of twelve-week goals. If I can succeed at one, I can make the next one stricter (in terms of "eating like an adult"). Goals
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prefect fucked around with this message at Jan 13, 2013 around 00:59 |
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I will walk 35 miles by the end of February.
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| # ? May 20, 2013 01:57 |
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Good on you for starting! Don't be too hard on yourself, you seem to have a defeatist attitude going into this. It's not you vs yourself. I think your goal is pretty modest, I bet if you stick to a real diet plan you could lose far more than 18 pounds. Have you looked into actually counting calories, rather than dieting based on some loose rules? (no soda, but alcohol? no pastries, but what about cereal?)
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 13:45 |
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NomNomNom posted:Good on you for starting! Don't be too hard on yourself, you seem to have a defeatist attitude going into this. It's not you vs yourself. I think your goal is pretty modest, I bet if you stick to a real diet plan you could lose far more than 18 pounds. Have you looked into actually counting calories, rather than dieting based on some loose rules? (no soda, but alcohol? no pastries, but what about cereal?) It might sound defeatist because I've made previous attempts and have wound up getting derailed. When I have tried things that involve fresh foods and cooking and recipes, it frequently falls apart, because I get overwhelmed with the requirements of fresh foods (yes, I'm kinda mental), or if I cook something, I wind up eating all of whatever I made. And the soda-versus-alcohol thing is because I can control my alcohol drinking and not go too far. If I allow myself to drink straight soda, I can go through more than two liters a day without even thinking about it. I'm hoping to start with something fairly simple and move into the more advanced calorie-counting and working out once I can get this working. (I didn't get into these kinds of details in the OP because I didn't want to violate the rule about "this is not the bitch-about-your-life forum".)
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 14:09 |
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prefect posted:I'm planning a series of twelve-week goals. If I can succeed at one, I can make the next one stricter (in terms of "eating like an adult"). "When I succeed at one, I will..." FTFY I'm on my nth attempt at this too. Failed too many times. Not gonna happen again. You are going to feel awesome after a few weeks of eating clean and moving more. Sincerely, A fellow fat, lazy dude.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 15:30 |
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Maybe consider switching to a diet soda for your mixers? I think a lot of the "diet taste" gets masked by the alcohol anyway, and that's less calories you have to worry about. Good luck!
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:09 |
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Dr. Van Nostrand posted:"When I succeed at one, I will..." Thanks.  I already had a minor victory -- went to the pharmacy to pick up the latest drugs. Did not buy a candy bar. Did not buy a soda. Did not buy any bags or boxes of sugary sweets. (I can't wait until I get better at this and my victories aren't so sad and depressing.  )stabbity posted:Maybe consider switching to a diet soda for your mixers? I think a lot of the "diet taste" gets masked by the alcohol anyway, and that's less calories you have to worry about. Good luck! I will give it a shot -- diet sodas have always irritated my gums when I've had them, but I can always try making the drinks stronger. 
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:18 |
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 10:09 |
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prefect posted:330.6 I'm not sure that weighing yourself every day is a good idea. Weight can fluctuate a lot during a day, depending on a lot of factors. (This is regardless of whether you've eaten well and done exercise during the day.) I think the best way to monitor is on a weekly or bi-weekly schedule. Always at the same time of day, without fail. You've only been going for 1 week now, so don't be surprised and beat yourself up just because there have been no substantial changes yet. However mentally, do you feel better in yourself? Those victories of not picking up the candy etc. It will happen, my friend. You need more patience, both with your regime and also yourself. It takes a lot of willpower to completely change a habit that has been embedded for so long. (eating double portions and ordering pizza). Just stick at it, remember your goals before you order the next pizza, and try to update your log a little more often.. It's been a whole week since your first post.
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 12:17 |
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spatula massacre posted:I'm not sure that weighing yourself every day is a good idea. Weight can fluctuate a lot during a day, depending on a lot of factors. (This is regardless of whether you've eaten well and done exercise during the day.) I used to use the Hacker's Diet Online -- you weigh yourself every day, and it calculates a smoothed-out moving average, so you don't have to freak out over fluctuations due to water retention. That kind of thing. I think I'm going to get that going again; it worked well for me then. spatula massacre posted:Just stick at it, remember your goals before you order the next pizza, and try to update your log a little more often.. It's been a whole week since your first post. I didn't want to post too often; I post way too often all over the forums, and I didn't want to come across too badly. 
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 12:24 |
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Use http://physicsdiet.com/FitnessLog.aspx for your tracking needs. I've weighed myself almost every day for a year. Just do it at the same time everyday (for me: when I wake up after pee before poop)
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 14:36 |
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NomNomNom posted:Use http://physicsdiet.com/FitnessLog.aspx for your tracking needs. I've weighed myself almost every day for a year. Just do it at the same time everyday (for me: when I wake up after pee before poop) I think a big thing to keep moral during long periods of dieting is the mile stones that you reach. They are often amplified by longer periods of time between each weigh-in. However if daily works for you, then do that. Just personal experience.
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 16:10 |
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I agree that setting up more specific food goals may be helpful. In my past dieting psychology, if I had a rule like 'no candy', then if I broke the rule and ate a candy, suddenly it was okay to eat All The Candy, since the rule is already broken. But hey, this is a journey and you'll figure out what works for you. Just know that if you discover that what you're doing isn't the most effective for you, that doesn't mean that you cannot be effective; it's a learning process. You may also find it really helpful to post in your log everyday (it won't come across badly at all). Include how much you weigh, what you ate that day, and any exercise you did. We're all rooting for you! 
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 16:42 |
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Salacious R. Crumb posted:I agree that setting up more specific food goals may be helpful. In my past dieting psychology, if I had a rule like 'no candy', then if I broke the rule and ate a candy, suddenly it was okay to eat All The Candy, since the rule is already broken. But hey, this is a journey and you'll figure out what works for you. Just know that if you discover that what you're doing isn't the most effective for you, that doesn't mean that you cannot be effective; it's a learning process. In my experience, once I have some junk food, it's like an avalanche, and I eat all the junk food. So I'm trying to prevent the pebbles from coming, and limit the amount of sweet food I can eat. (The soda limitation is also important here.) Yes, the eventual goal is to be able to eat like an adult, but it's not time for that subtlety yet. Salacious R. Crumb posted:You may also find it really helpful to post in your log everyday (it won't come across badly at all). Include how much you weigh, what you ate that day, and any exercise you did. We're all rooting for you! Thanks.  I have had some success in the past (lost 70 pounds at one point), and it was super-helpful to have my daily weight in my brain. That way, I couldn't ignore or forget what I needed to focus on.
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 16:47 |
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Read this: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fa...id-dieting.html Also, post everyday.
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| # ? Jan 7, 2013 18:27 |
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prefect posted:I have had some success in the past (lost 70 pounds at one point), and it was super-helpful to have my daily weight in my brain. That way, I couldn't ignore or forget what I needed to focus on. Then do this again, however this time, when you start to see the gains, stick to it As S.R.C said, we're all rooting for you. And yes, post every day! The most effective way to keep a log is to treat it like a daily diary. Also, use something like 'MyFitnessPal' to track food intake and exercise and post the daily report on here, it makes things much easier. Good luck, champ!
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| # ? Jan 8, 2013 08:45 |
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330.2 How is it that I went walking for a half-hour on Sunday and managed to cause a spot in the middle of my left foot to hurt like hell? Walking, for gently caress's sake. And now I have a limp. Hooray. Edit: I am having a bad day. I am tired, sore, depressed, angry, and dumb (honestly, I'm usually smarter than I am now). (But at least I haven't overeaten.) I could really go for for a cake or a pie or a ton of ice cream or enough candy to give an elephant diabetes. I'm going to take a shower instead. prefect fucked around with this message at Jan 8, 2013 around 19:40 |
| # ? Jan 8, 2013 10:34 |
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To help with things like this, try taking a walk. I know you mentioned that you have a 'sore' spot on your foot, but gently caress it! We are designed to go walking and not to eat truck loads of cake and ice cream. The fresh air and exercise will do wonders for your mental state and esteem. I promise you, you'll feel much better. It's easy to lose track of what you're doing when you're just dieting, because all you're changing is the type and portion of the food you're eating. However doing exercise, you definitely feel like you've achieved something when you've finished. Give it a go.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2013 08:49 |
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Outside of the alcohol mixing, when I drink soda I tend to use a straw anyways. Diet soda rules.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2013 09:16 |
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"Depression, ADD, social anxiety/phobia, some OCD, really low self-esteem" I probably have all that sh*t worse than you, or have had it worse at times or have in the past. Once you get to running or whatever it is you do for cardio it wont matter. Seriously I am and have been much more different than the average person than you. but I exercised through it. It helped. When I used to live with my father,I used to not go outside, except very late at night. I couldn't comprehend the concept of wearing uncomfortable clothes and than going outside. I would ride an exercise bike, naked with music playing. I could only do it if I had the music playing. Even within this problems arose. The bike started to creek and squeal. I stopped riding it for great periods of time off and on, because of the annoyance. Finally I asked my dad to help fix it, he did and it started working squeal free. a few weeks after I had quit one such cycle of riding the bike, I was in the doctor's office. I had a pulse of 47. I panicked all day indoors, slept very poorly, and had a pulse of 47; a few weeks after ceasing to exercise. The point is.... just exercise. get in a zone. Excuses are excuses. They are crutches and while you lean on them you will never succeed.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2013 09:28 |
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TheUnknownPoster posted:"Depression, ADD, social anxiety/phobia, some OCD, really low self-esteem" grats TheUnknownPoster posted:a few weeks after I had quit one such cycle of riding the bike, I was in the doctor's office. I had a pulse of 47. I panicked all day indoors, slept very poorly, and had a pulse of 47; a few weeks after ceasing to exercise. your heart was failing from the exercise
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wasianchickn posted:grats Thanks man. We're all real special in our way though. You can be an artist too! quote:your heart was failing from the exercise I had no idea that having an RHR of 47 was considered unhealthy now days. Any time I've been in recently it's been some crazy high number.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2013 09:49 |
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328.4 I felt actual, physical hunger at one point yesterday. I think that's a good sign. I feel a tiny bit of optimism right now.
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| # ? Jan 9, 2013 10:31 |
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300.0 Because of a screw-up at the cafeteria at work yesterday, I had to skip lunch and eat a larger dinner than usual. I'm going to claim that the salt from that late meal caused me to retain water. 
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 10:26 |
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I made a tweak to the Toxx rules the other day that you should consider. Weight loss is great and all, but this is a fitness forum and we want to see people working out, not just posting about what they ate. I encourage you to keep the weight loss goal as a personal goal, but have a fitness Toxx, such as walking an organized 5K, or a modest strength goal (the sticky has suggestions). Do what every successful former fatty here either does or wishes they'd done: join a gym and lift weights. The YLLS Quick-Start Guide has a list of simple, effective program. This will help you look and feel much better as you lose weight, as you'll be adding muscle as well, and it's incredibly satisfying to get stronger week after week.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 13:04 |
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Hey didn't you used to have a Bill Hicks avatar and post in the OKCupid thread?
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 17:12 |
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Dross posted:Hey didn't you used to have a Bill Hicks avatar and post in the OKCupid thread? Yeah, that was a silly place for me to be hanging out. I remember somebody once said "Every time I see your avatar, I know I'm about to read something depressing."
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 17:31 |
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prefect posted:Yeah, that was a silly place for me to be hanging out. I remember somebody once said "Every time I see your avatar, I know I'm about to read something depressing." That would have been me.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 17:40 |
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Dross posted:That would have been me. You definitely have a skill with words and a way of making a point.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 17:48 |
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I walked 1.36 miles today as the start of my "walk 35 miles by the end of February" goal. You'll have to take my word for that for the moment -- I've mailed the Garmin support staff to see if I can share some details of my walking (distance, date) without giving out maps of where I walk and where I live.
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| # ? Jan 13, 2013 00:58 |
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Miles today: 1.33 Miles total: 2.69 Weight: 326.6
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Miles today: 1.34 Miles total: 4.03 Weight: 328.0
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 12:39 |
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Miles today: 1.58 Miles total: 5.61 Weight: 326.0
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 13:01 |
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Miles today: 1.49 Miles total: 7.10 Weight: 324.0
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| # ? Jan 26, 2013 15:10 |
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Progress!
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| # ? Jan 26, 2013 15:38 |
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Dross posted:Progress! I have to go walking more frequently to avoid my Toxx, though. (Also I might need to buy a ski mask or something. It's cold as gently caress outside, and when the wind kicks up, it hurts.  )
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| # ? Jan 26, 2013 15:48 |
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Miles today: 1.52 Miles total: 8.62 Weight: 329.0 So that was a lovely week.
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| # ? Feb 4, 2013 10:27 |
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Miles today: 1.54 Miles total: 10.16 Weight: 325.2
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| # ? Feb 5, 2013 10:49 |
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My GPS watch must have lost its satellite connections at some point, because it thinks I walked 2.20 miles this morning, with an elevation gain of 35,643 feet. I just walked the same path I've been walking, so I'm going to manually override its claim. Miles today: 1.5 Miles total: 11.66 Weight: 324.4 On the plus side, I did get to pet two dogs that were out for a walk. 
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| # ? Feb 7, 2013 10:18 |
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Miles today: 1.65 Miles total: 13.31 Weight: 326.0 Dogs petted: 1
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| # ? May 20, 2013 01:57 |
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No walking today, although I did manage to strain/sprain/dislocate/tear/shatter something in my lower back while trying to shovel out my car. Hooray!
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