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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...0,1783180.story They better not gently caress this up.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:08 |
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Sataere posted:http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...0,1783180.story They already did.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:09 |
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Comfortador posted:They already did. Agreed, but if you replace him with an Andy Reid, I can live with it. If you just promote some random coordinator for cheap, this is an awful move. Still not very happy with it.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:12 |
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3507802
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Chicago Tribune posted:The Bears fired Smith on Monday after a 10-6 season, Tribune sources have confirmed. They started 7-1 but fell apart down the stretch, mostly because they couldn't score. R.I.P. Lovie Smith. He never scored.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:14 |
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Well what's the point of having a forum dedicated to football?
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:14 |
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Sataere posted:Agreed, but if you replace him with an Andy Reid, I can live with it. If you just promote some random coordinator for cheap, this is an awful move. I'd rather Dave Toub get the job than Andy Reid. I'm pretty ambivalent about this except to say this is the time to do it - like a third of the starters are free agents or are soon going to be so if you're going to radically change your schemes this is the time to decide on your direction.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:16 |
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Needs More Ditka posted:R.I.P. Lovie Smith. He never scored.  Gendo is encouraging us to create new threads, and Lovie Smith being fired is a big enough news story to merit its own thread!
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:18 |
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From Emery's perspective, it makes a lot of sense. The core talent of the team isn't young. It seems to me Emery had the choice of either riding an aging team that wasn't his, or blowing it up and rebuilding one. From a job security perspective, unless he drafted amazingly, the Bears were going to go into severe decline in two or three years and eventually blame would be assigned to him. Now he's bought himself at least four or five years as GM I'd bet. Honestly, as a fan, I think retaining Lovie would have just been delaying the inevitable. Everything ends, and while I'd prefer the security of knowing what to expect from my team, I'm ok with moving on from Lovie. Also Stephen A Smith just alluded that firing Lovie was racist.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:18 |
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Fair enough, my bad.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:18 |
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MaximumBob posted:I'd rather Dave Toub get the job than Andy Reid. I wouldn't mind seeing Toub get a chance, but honestly feel that we need a coach with a successful track record both as a head coach and in creating a successful offense.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:19 |
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It's Josh McDaniels time!
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:20 |
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Comfortador posted:It's Josh McDaniels time! This would be perfect.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:23 |
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If the Bears are going to fire Lovie, I want Emery to go balls-out in trying to destroy the awful Hardnosed Football obsession in this city. Hire Chip Kelly and get Nike to make a billion ridiculous primarily-orange jerseys
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:23 |
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Your new Chicago Bears Head Coach of 2013: Dave Wannstedt.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:25 |
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Here is the thing. You either had to extend Lovie so you could bring in a real offensive coordinator with security, or fire him and bring in a whole new regime. I was fine with either as long as Lovie wasn't allowed to choose his OC or have any input on that side of the ball. I still don't get why he has such undying support here. The Bears have had 1 good team in 6 years. A bottom tier offense for the 9 years he's been coach. All in a league where you need to be able to score to compete with the elite teams. Sure they'd likely always hang around that 7-9 to 10-6 area, but they aren't going to contend under him with his offenses.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:25 |
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Sataere posted:I wouldn't mind seeing Toub get a chance, but honestly feel that we need a coach with a successful track record both as a head coach and in creating a successful offense. Reid in particular just strikes me as a bad idea - he seems like he needs some time off to me. I wouldn't mind a coach with a proven record otherwise, I'd just rather it wasn't him. Also I'm sad to realize this almost certainly means Brian Urlacher has played his last down as a Bear. It might be time but still.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:25 |
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xbilkis posted:If the Bears are going to fire Lovie, I want Emery to go balls-out in trying to destroy the awful Hardnosed Football obsession in this city. Hire Chip Kelly and get Nike to make a billion ridiculous primarily-orange jerseys If we hire Chip Kelly, I will have nothing bad to say about the firing! With our luck, it will just be like when we hired that BYU guy to revolutionize our offense with wide receiver screens that failed to get first downs.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:27 |
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MaximumBob posted:Also I'm sad to realize this almost certainly means Brian Urlacher has played his last down as a Bear. It might be time but still. I think he'll be brought back on a 2-year deal. Face of the franchise, sells a lot of jerseys, and so on. Hester is almost certainly gone and wouldn't be surprised to see Peppers go too.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:28 |
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This whole thing also raises the Jay Cutler question - next year is the last on his contract, right? What do you do about that? I guess you could just force him to play on a one year deal knowing that if you blow up the team now you're going to have a top-5 pick in 2014 that you can use on his replacement? And I suppose if Cutler holds out he's not doing himself any favors.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:29 |
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I can't wait until next year when the Bears have a losing record and TFF is 1000x more obnoxious than usual about the Bears.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:29 |
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Sataere posted:If we hire Chip Kelly, I will have nothing bad to say about the firing! With our luck, it will just be like when we hired that BYU guy to revolutionize our offense with wide receiver screens that failed to get first downs. Gary Crowton. Remember when he made Jim Miller look like an actual quarterback?
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:29 |
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I would let Jay play out the contract and then franchise him if they're still uncertain on giving him a long term deal.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:30 |
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beejay posted:I can't wait until next year when the Bears have a losing record and TFF is 1000x more obnoxious than usual about the Bears. I can't wait until local Packer fans are 1000x more obnoxious
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:30 |
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Niwrad posted:I think he'll be brought back on a 2-year deal. Face of the franchise, sells a lot of jerseys, and so on. Hester is almost certainly gone and wouldn't be surprised to see Peppers go too. I think Lovie's scheme is the only one where he has any value and he's going to want to start. Depends what kind of defense you're running next year I guess but I'd think there would be teams that could use him more than the Bears.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:31 |
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beejay posted:I can't wait until next year when the Bears have a losing record and TFF is 1000x more obnoxious than usual about the Bears. You mean when a roster of 50% new players wins four games and TFF is like "I knew they weren't really good last year?" E: apparently the Bears have asked to interview Mike McCoy at least. MaximumBob fucked around with this message at Dec 31, 2012 around 16:34 |
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beejay posted:I can't wait until next year when the Bears have a losing record and TFF is 1000x more obnoxious than usual about the Bears. Losing record? These idiots deserve 4-12 and a thwomping from whatever Lovie's team is next year (it's going to be the god drat loving Eagles because football hates me). I'm loving pissed off and if they don't give Jay a deal I hope he sits and goes to join Lovie's Super Duper Philadelphia Super Bowl Winning Squad. I might be young but I remember both Wannstedt and Jauron and I hope Emery knows what he's loving doing because I've seen what it is like to not know.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:34 |
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Gary Crowton was kind of fun till everyone figured him out.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:34 |
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Jay Cutler won't ever win the Super Bowl because the odds of him committing three turnovers once in a three game stretch is really high.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:36 |
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Josh McDaniels do it Bears
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:37 |
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Winkie01 posted:Josh McDaniels do it Bears Apparently they want to hire a different wunderkind who looks good due to outside influence because they just sent a consent form to interview the Broncos OC.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:38 |
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I always thought Lovie was a good coach who occasionally succeeded in spite of the organization. I hope he gets another shot somewhere.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:39 |
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The Bears are hosed.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:43 |
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Let me ask you guys a question, how many years do you think Lovie needed to win the Super Bowl?
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:45 |
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The Bears are screwed for a couple years at least, everyone's old, everyone sucks, burn down Soldier Field, salt the lakefront.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:47 |
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I read Norv Turner is looking for a house in Chitown.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:48 |
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beejay posted:Let me ask you guys a question, how many years do you think Lovie needed to win the Super Bowl? I don't know but I've reason to believe it's less years than they need now.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:49 |
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Lovie was done the second Favre was out of the division. His defenses always seemed to destroy Favre. Really though, Lovie had a lot of success in those first few years. Then he just had a lot of, "good but not good enough" seasons. If you average out his wins over the course of his run with the Bears then it looks pretty good, but it's not the most accurate picture. He got by as long as he did with a lot of OCs being fired. If the Packers had players more suited to his style, I'd want him as our defensive coordinator in a second. I don't doubt his ability as a defensive guy. ShimSham fucked around with this message at Dec 31, 2012 around 16:52 |
| # ? Dec 31, 2012 16:49 |
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I don't think it is a given that the defense has a major turnaround. As old as the defense supposedly is, there are some young talented guys on it also. Tillman is the only guy in the secondary over thirty, and I think we had the best secondary in football this year. A line of Melton, Paea, Wooten and Shea is actually a very nice line, and all of those guys are very young. The idea that the defense is close to completely falling off is an over-exaggeration. I think you need to focus on keeping the young core. I hope whoever the Bears brings in is cool with keeping Marinelli. (Has he be let go?)
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beejay posted:Let me ask you guys a question, how many years do you think Lovie needed to win the Super Bowl? I think Lovie needed an org that didn't have the belief players never age. Bears fans go on about that defense but almost no one else gets that production from that group. And I don't understand why Bears fans are refusing to give any responsibility to Cutler for-*fumbles post
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