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Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.



I've said it before, but it's worth saying again: my favorite Dungeons and Dragons setting of all time is Spelljammer. After all, who said space travel can only be used by science fiction? What if Ptolemy and J. J. Becher were right and every solar system was encased in a crystal sphere floating in Phlogiston, the flaming river? What if all you need to travel the Wildspace is a wizard in an enchanted chair?

Like Planescape, Spelljammer was an "everything goes" setting that connected the different traditional settings and added in all the most imaginative ideas they could come up with. But instead of the philosophy of belief that informs Planescape and its ring of afterlifes, Spelljammer is a pure, unapologetic fantasy space opera. The elven British Navy, with giant butterfly-shaped ships-of-the-line! Prussian orcs! Chinese vessels shaped like segmented Eastern dragons! Flying undead pyramids! Gun-loving hippo men! Spider-like slavemasters with ships that feature insectoid grappling arms! It's all so utterly creative and so utterly silly that I can't help but love it.

I figure that helps explain why I enjoy Rogue Galaxy more than I probably should.



Rogue Galaxy was released in the US in early 2007, a few months after Final Fantasy XII. At the time, I recall hearing some folks mention that the plot to FFXII was similar to Star Wars: a blond kid wants to go out and make a difference, fight an evil empire, etc. etc.

I can only assume those people did not play Rogue Galaxy.

Let's just have a quick look at our main cast here:



Kisala, aka Princess Leia? Check.



Desert Claw, aka Obi-Wan Kenobi? Check.



Steve, aka C-3PO? Check.



Simon, aka Scottish mole-faced R2-D2? Check.



Zegram, aka Spike Spiegel Han Solo Boba Fett? Check.



Deego, aka Jet Black Chewbacca? Check.



Jupis, aka MotherFRELLing Jar-Jar Binks? Check. Unfortunately.



Jabba the Hutt and Salacious B. Crumb? Double check.



Lilika, aka...um, crap. Wicket the Ewok, I guess? Check.



Mono-biome planets? Check.



And finally, Jaster Rogue, aka a young blond protagonist with a mysterious and plot-related parental history who dreams of one day leaving the desert planet he's stuck on in order to make a difference and fight against the morally questionable government which occupied his planet using white-uniformed stormtroopers?

*Pause for breath*

Check.

That all said, while the archetypes and setup are similar to Star Wars, the plot is significantly different (and significantly more anime; fair warning). On the other hand, it's only different from Star Wars; everything is just so cliché, ridiculous, and over-the-top that I just can't take it seriously. All the cast members have sappy backstories, but I still end up laughing more often than not when they're presented. Still, it's all great fun to watch if you like so-bad-it's-good and I get the feeling that the creators weren't taking things completely seriously, either: the final boss is evidence enough of that.

The voice acting is surprisingly good, too (at least when you consider the lines the poor VA's were fed). The cast list practically reads like a Who's Who in the American dubbing industry. But more about that at the appropriate times.

Let me also add that the gameplay is very enjoyable even if the combat can get simplistic at times. Rogue Galaxy was created by Level 5, the developers of Dark Cloud and Dragon Quest 8, and the system shows a lot of polish, especially since they spent an extra year adding even more stuff for the international release. There are a ton of different things to do even while you're walking through a combat zone, although I'll wait for when they get introduced to discuss them. Rogue Galaxy is also the first and last game to ever inspire me to buy the strategy guide, and the only game I've ever 99%'ed. Will I finally reach 100% for the LP? Time will tell.

Related to that, please do not discuss spoilers in the thread, tagged or otherwise . That includes unrevealed game mechanics as well as plot details, because some of the things you can do eventually are just too to ruin early for those who haven't played the game. Thank you for your cooperation. Let's get this show on the road.

Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at Mar 5, 2013 around 21:33

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Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.



There's a lot of talking over cutscenes. If that's not your thing, click on the Blip link. If you can download it, you may note it features both tracks for your enjoyment.
















































Something else I like about the game is its soundtrack. Fortunately for us, it's never been released in America, so:














































(from the strategy guide)



Rosa

Climate:
Guess!
Population: Desperate
Major Settlement: Salgin
Major Exports: Sand, yago, yago milk, beast hide
Major Imports: Hunters to kill the beasts that rampage over planet's surface with horrible impunity.

Rosa is a humble and picturesque planet. It's relatively uncivilized, which means it's rich in unspoiled natural beauty (if you're into that sort of thing). The wilderness is infested with beasts and incredibly hostile to civilized beings, so be careful when planning excursions. On the other hand, it's a survivalist's paradise! Be sure to talk to locals in order to hear colorful tales about local hunters like the famous Desert Claw. If you're really unlucky, you might even get to meet one! If you do opt to go into the wilderness, then be sure to pay a visit to the ruins just outside Salgin. Be sure to grab a rock or pottery shard as a souvenir!

Recently, certain valuable archaeological digs have opened up in the Rosan wilderness. These digs are yielding up valuable artifacts that are beyond the ability of Rosa's native authorities to deal with. To help ensure the protection of Rosa's cultural heritage, the Longardian Federation has graciously sent troops to enhance the planet's security and assist with planetary administration. At the moment, Rosan citizens are restricted from galactic travel in order to prevent smuggling and other criminal attempts to exploit Rosa's ruins. Visitors to the planet have no need to worry, and may come and go as they please. Keep a careful eye out for criminals who might try to talk you into taking them off-planet, though! Be sure to report them to the nearest Longardian authorities.

Areas of Interest

Salgin
- Salgin is a picturesque village, where you can watch Rosa's citizens going about their picturesque business. Shops full of exotic goods await you around every corner, so be sure to investigate them all for great deals. If you want to head into the desert, stop off at the west gate to rent a yago so you can ride in style.
Ancient Ruins - Wander through the remnants of whatever grand civilization existed on Rosa before it turned into the sand-blasted heck-hole it is today! Longardian soldiers are on patrol, so there's no reason to worry about beasts. Be sure to stay away from the active dig sites, or the soldiers might get upset with you.
Kuje Desert - We have no idea what sort of death wish would compel a person to wander into the Kuje Desert, but it's certainly there if you've gotten tired of this work-a-day world. Sometimes called the "Graveyard of Hunters" because hundreds of bounty-hunting fools wander into it every year and never wander back out. Kuje is ravaged by constant sandstorms, and the locals tell bone-chilling tales about the desert being haunted.



Juraika

Climate: Moist, warm, sticky, miserable
Population: Primitive
Major Settlements: Burkaqua Village (note: natives are unfriendly)
Major Exports: Fire Fruit, Coffee, Insectors
Major Imports: Crashing Spaceships, Archaeologists

Juraika's immense natural beauty makes the planet worth the inevitable hardships you'll face in getting there, being there, and trying to leave there. The planet is covered in the largest expanse of unspoiled rainforest in the known galaxy, and a traveler interested in nature can observe all sorts of fantastic species of insect, bird, and plant. There are larger animals about, of course, but if you observe them you probably won't live to tell about it. That goes for some of the plants, too!

There's little that can really be called "civilization" on Juraika, so plan your trip into the jungles carefully. Beasts roam the area and will attack a hapless traveler on sight. While there is a native population, they are for the most part unfriendly and hate outsiders. You're unlikely to receive help in an emergency, or to find anyone willing to take your money. There are some outcasts from the tribe who are known to be interested in advancing technology, so if you stumble across one of them you may get a better reception.

Areas of Interest

Burkaqua Village
- It's interesting, but that doesn't mean you can actually go there! Not much is known about the Burkaqua tribe, but it's worth the rest it takes to catch a glimpse of them. You can identify a Burkaquan by their dark skin, simplistic clothing, and penchant for wearing huge masks.
Native Jungles - The main attraction for Juraika, of course, is the wonderful natural beauty of its jungles. There are lots of jungles to explore, and by the time you leave Juraika you'll have seen all the jungle anybody could ever possibly want to see! Keep your eyes peeled for lost treasure as you poke around the planet's many riverside areas.



Zerard

Climate:
Perfect
Population: Intelligent and attractive
Major Settlements: Everywhere
Major Exports: Electronics, Robots, Spaceships, Industrial Goods, Money
Major Imports: Food, Immigrants, More Money

Zerard is the best planet in the galaxy and if you haven't visited it you should feel ashamed of yourself. Its thriving cityscape is home to the best industrial and corporate concerns in the universe. You can even pay a visit to the headquarters of the Galaxy Corporation there! Be sure to stop by the front desk and get your picture taken with our very own MIO.

You could write a novel about all the wonderful things to see and do in Zerard's busy streets. The best advice we can offer in this limited space is to explore everywhere and talk to everyone. Zerard's shops offer the best bargains in the galaxy, and our architecture is second to none. You should feel privileged just to walk Zerard's shining and well-planed streets.

If you're in Zerard on business, your first stop should be the Galaxy Corporation HQ. There you can register spaceships, take out contracts on the most dangerous beasts in the galaxy, and visit MIO to upgrade your Hunter ranking. Zerard is also the capital of the universe's thriving Insectron-related business, and our Daytron factories manufacture all of the spaceships worth caring about. Basically, if something important has ever happened in the universe, it was probably on Zerard.

Areas of Interest

Gladius Towers
- Can you imagine a time when Zerard wasn't the shining mecca of technological advancement it was now? Incredibly, it's true! The Gladius Towers are all that remain of the ancient kingdom of Zerard, and these quaint monuments are a must-see for any galactic traveler. Be sure to listen to the story of the two ancient princes who built the towers, but if you go in the towers themselves, the Galaxy Corporation is not liable for any personal death or injury that results.
Daytron Starship Factory - Get a day pass to visit the friendly and efficient Daytron Starship Factory while you're on Zerard! The process of starship assembly is fascinating, because it involves many robots and large, dangerous machines. Just imagine you badly you could get injured on a starship assembly line! Not that anyone ever does, no matter what our brilliant but often eccentric scientists say.
Insectron Stadium - If there's anything that appeals to the hearts of young and old alike, it's the need to compulsively collect things, and then prove their superiority by making them fight someone else's things. Couple that with the universal affection for insects, and you have the competitive craze that's sweeping the planet! Bring Insectors caught in the wildest parts of the galaxy here to Zerard and have them beat up rival teams to win eternal glory, big prizes, and the sight of your opponent weeping in defeat. It's fun for the whole family!
Rosencaster Prison - Why is Zerard the apex of galactic civilization, you ask? Friend, look no farther than our world-famous prison system! Under the watchful eye of its dutiful warden, no prisoner has ever managed to escape. Stories of the horrors inside Rosencaster Prison alone are enough to deter most would-be criminals, and travelers would do well to abide by the letter of the law while on Zerard. Our shortage of actual criminals means that some creative police work is sometimes required to keep Rosencaster Prison's cells full...



Vedan

Climate:
Nice and normal. You got no problems with that, capisce?
Population: Minding their own business.
Major Settlement: Myna
Major Exports: Ore, Metal, Completely Legal and Legitimate Goods and Services
Major Imports: Miners, Booze, Broken Dreams

Vedan is the source of virtually all of the metals and minerals that our high-tech society demands. It's a sophisticated, urbane society, and a traveler can expect to find all the creature comforts of home while visiting. Vedan is particularly known for its rough nightlife, since if you've survived another punishing day of physical labor in the mines, then you know it's time to party. You can also see some monuments to miners killed in cave-in disasters, but who wants to do something depressing like that? Go take in a romantic view of the Myna spaceport instead.

Myna is full of excellent shopping and dining opportunities, but be careful which parts of town you enter. Some are much more dangerous than others, and some of the shops you find may deal in certain black market goods. We can't tell you which ones for legal reasons, but...you know. Word gets around. There are also certain organizations on Myna, powerful organizations, and it would be in your best interests not to disrespect them. We can't mention any names, but they're there, and word gets around. Just go about your business and, if asked, calmly state to the authorities or nice men in suits with tommy guns that you saw nothing.

Areas of Interest

Myna
- Myna itself is a wonderful land of, ah, industrial utilitarian steel construction. But there are many lights, and at night they are very attractive! You can also visit the various observation posts to have a chance to quietly gaze upon Myna's cold, stark, soul-crushingly bleak natural beauty. Myna also plays host to many very attractive bars that you may want to visit after beholding such a view. May we be so bold as to suggest Angela's?
The Mines - Myna's mines are dark, dangerous, and full of toiling workmen and savage beasts. Where else would you go on a vacation? Of course, getting a pass into the mines isn't easy. You might need to find certain dealers in illegal goods, and obtain certain forged documents! This, of course, is a law-abiding publication that wouldn't know anything about that.



Alistia

Climate:
Warm, sunny, sometimes damp
Population: Angry
Major Settlement: Lapatia Village
Major Exports: Fish, Trinkets
Major Imports: Suntan Lotion, Tourists

Alistia is the vacation paradise of the Wilherser System, where you go when you've got money to burn and want people to know you're burning it. The friendly Sleeg natives have prepared for your journey by disposing of the rival Mermel race, and now they're happy to welcome outsiders into their world of sandy beaches and clear blue waters. If someone walks up to you and tells you to go away, trust us, they're just kidding! Ha ha, what kidders, those Sleegs.

There are lots of things to do while you're on Alistia. You can swim for miles in the clear ocean water, or take a leisurely stroll down Nelvasa Seaway. There will be beasts there, of course, but you'll be able to dispatch them in a leisurely, relaxing fashion. Stop off in Lapatia Village to buy souvenirs from reputable merchants, or just buy them from guys you find standing around on the beach. Just stay busy shopping, and pay no attention to rumors about strange laboratories on the beach. Ha ha! Why would Daytron open a laboratory on Alistia? Those Sleegs do love their tall tales!

Areas of Interest

Port Baltoness
- Port Baltoness is where your Alistian adventure begins. Anchor your ship in the bay's pristine water and stroll up the white sands toward the village. That sensation you're experiencing? That is unbridled superiority to everyone who is not you.
Lapatia Village - Lapatia is charmingly constructed as a series of huts, built on long decks that run over the water. You can be shopping one minute, then dive into the ocean and go swimming the next! Yes, sudden, illogical impulse gratification is what the Alistian experience is all about.
Nelvasa Seaway - Maybe you just want to take a look around at the perfect white stone cliffs, or maybe you want to cap off your vacation by killing a group of flying jellyfish. Either way, the Nelvasa Seaway is a must-see when you're on Alistia. Watch the blue sky melt into clear waters as you explore the dunes. Who knows what treasures you'll find out there? You won't even need a metal detector!

Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at May 16, 2013 around 16:07

Samael
Oct 16, 2012


Used to play this game quite a lot until I got stuck at a boss at the last third of the game as I powerleveled way too much. Dunno if that is a spoiler or not, haha.

Will be interesting to see other people's perceptions of this game as I thought it was excellent with a lot of charm, will be bookmarking this, good luck!

Krysmphoenix
Jul 29, 2010

BAHAMUT.
Torch 'im.
I don't want to see
even ashes left.


Yeahhh...I also enjoyed Rogue Galaxy probably far more than I should have. It's fun to play, and that's probably why I played it for so long and completed the bonus dungeon planet thing at the end.

But yes, Star Wars the JRPG...seems completely appropriate. It's been a long while since I played this, and no one else I know has played it. Curious to see how others feel about this game.

Colon V
Sep 30, 2009

Scraggy don' like your kind 'round these-here parts


This looks like Skies of Arcadia in Space. I hope it is.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011



^^^^: It pretty much is.

Actually one of my favorite jrpgs. I got it when I traded in my copy soul calibur 2 so I remember it well.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

No EXP received.

This game should've been so much more than it is. Around every corner is potential and good ideas but it just feels so unpolished and rough.

FighterKnuckles
Apr 17, 2010

The truth is in sight!

This game looks rather neat. I've heard of it, but I've never had the opportunity to play it. Looking forward to seeing more.

Wild Knight
Mar 27, 2010

Foul villain! I do not flee. I will never turn my back on you and run away!

[he says, running away]


Colon V posted:

This looks like Skies of Arcadia in Space. I hope it is.


Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

This game should've been so much more than it is. Around every corner is potential and good ideas but it just feels so unpolished and rough.

Yeah, these pretty much sum up my experience with the game. I was really, really hopeful that it would be Skies of Arcadia in space, and it kind of is but it doesn't quite hit the sweet spot between cliche and charm that Skies of Arcadia does. Also a certain JRPG staple enemy being way too friggin' difficult pretty much stonewalled me and I never picked it up again after that.

So heck, I'll watch this. Though, if I may ask, why a video LP for a JRPG?

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


I must also agree, this game is...well it's disappointing.

And I wanted so desperately to love this game. I wanted to love it and it kind of let me down from the get-go. It felt...clunky. The levels were linear. The characters weren't...popping! And the gameplay didn't really do much for me either. I was expecting a much bigger adventure than what I got--I felt confined by a game that I expected to let me cut loose.

So, basically what everyone else says. I came for Skies of Arcadia in Space and instead got just another loving anime about Star Wars or whatever.

Ryas
Dec 28, 2012


Oh geez, this game. It was fun enough at first, but all the dungeons were so long, tedious, and repetitive that it quickly became a chore to get through it all. The plot also just sort of falls apart near the end and gets really, really dumb.

Louispul5
Oct 10, 2012


Colon V posted:

This looks like Skies of Arcadia in Space. I hope it is.

Does it have ship to ship combat? That was the very best part of Skies of arcadia, or anything that's got pirates in general.

Rabidredneck
Oct 30, 2010

Not pleasant when angered.

I really liked this game, played it practically to 100% completion, which is something I rarely do with games. It's biggest strength is there's so much to do in it, but it can be a weakness as well, as it can get rather grindy at times.

Still I had a lot of fun with it, and never regretted picking it up.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

You can live in the wreckage and pretend it's the mansion you remember, or you can crawl from the rubble and move on.


I really enjoyed this game. It has some kickin' rad tunes and is, IMO, the prettiest RPG on the PS2. The gameplay is fun if repetitive, and I enjoyed it more than both Dark Cloud games. It's not perfect, due to the plot being kind of bad, but I 100% this game, even the goddamn bug minigame. Also, the strategy guide is awesome.

Sworder
Apr 28, 2005

It's the little things that kill.

I was even thinking about picking this game up again soon. I got burnt out farming up items and weapons for various growth mechanics a relatively short way in. I'm sure there's no way I'd fall for that if I started playing again!

Lord Ephraim
Feb 22, 2008

That's one way to get ahead in life, but nothing beats an axe to the face.

I spent more on the strategy guide than on the game. Apparently Doublejump guides are a rare thing. It's a great guide, even though the game was just okay.

kalonZombie
May 24, 2010

D&D 3.5 Book of Erotic Fantasy


What have I gotten myself into?

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!


So, let me get this straight.

It's Star Wars meets Spelljammer meets Skies of Arcadia, gets a progressively dumber plotline as the game continues, and you start off on the desert planet fighting skull beasts, giant bugs, and armored chickens with two necks but one body and one head.

Oh man, this is going to be a wonderful LP

Gnomebitten
Mar 31, 2011

Shave Early. Shave Yourself.


I keep meaning to play this game. I really like Level 5 and have played the crap out of Dark Cloud 2 and Dragon Quest VIII, but never got around to this one. Gonna keep tabs on this thread.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012


I remember hearing about this game once and getting excited for it. Then it got a 8.0 on Gamespot or something and as a discerning gamer I immediately turned up my nose at it.

But it looks pretty cool, and I love the cell-shaded look. Pseudo-cell shaded? Who knows. And I don't think they make inventory screens that classy anymore.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

Happiness is the legal tender of the soul. -Robert Green Ingersoll


I'd just like to mention that this game, and the plots of many other games/movies/books bear a striking resemblance to the plot/characters/themes of Star Wars for a very specific reason. Some poo poo about a mono-myth or something.
http://www.moongadget.com/origins/myth.html

Never got very far in this game, as I got distracted by other shiny objects, but I did enjoy my time with it.

Gnomebitten
Mar 31, 2011

Shave Early. Shave Yourself.


Pvt.Scott posted:

I'd just like to mention that this game, and the plots of many other games/movies/books bear a striking resemblance to the plot/characters/themes of Star Wars for a very specific reason. Some poo poo about a mono-myth or something.
http://www.moongadget.com/origins/myth.html

Never got very far in this game, as I got distracted by other shiny objects, but I did enjoy my time with it.

There's actually a thread going on right now talkin' bout the Monomyth and it's pretty good, although that thread's choices about character classes make me cringe a little. With this game, the thematic similarities with Star Wars seem a little more intentional or subconsious, though.C-3PO comes to mind immediately.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


I translated this game, which meant I wasn't really in the mood to play the English when it came out. I'm looking forward to the LP, though--thanks!

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012


Gnomebitten posted:

There's actually a thread going on right now talkin' bout the Monomyth and it's pretty good, although that thread's choices about character classes make me cringe a little. With this game, the thematic similarities with Star Wars seem a little more intentional or subconsious, though.C-3PO comes to mind immediately.

And Campbell doesn't really mention desert planets or evil empires that rule said desert planets as parts of the Monomyth.

I think the threshold classifying something as a rip-off of Star Wars includes the mentor being a member of an ancient order of peacekeepers from a more civilised age. Otherwise it probably leans more towards "homage" than "rip-off".

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

World-changing power, absolutely no side effects!

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

And Campbell doesn't really mention desert planets or evil empires that rule said desert planets as parts of the Monomyth.

I think the threshold classifying something as a rip-off of Star Wars includes the mentor being a member of an ancient order of peacekeepers from a more civilised age. Otherwise it probably leans more towards "homage" than "rip-off".

The line between homage, tribute and rip-off is very thin, and at least partially subjective. It seems to mainly depend on whether the work can stand on its own and whether the creators acknowledge the source material.

RelentlessImp
Mar 14, 2011


Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

This game should've been so much more than it is. Around every corner is potential and good ideas but it just feels so unpolished and rough.

Pretty much this. I try to play my way through it once a year, but inevitably give up when I run into "Jar-Jar Binks" because of his voice acting.

A friend of mine torments me regularly by using that guy's voice to call out the protagonist's name and it just sours me on the whole experience.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012


Bobbin I love you so much for LPing this game.

I got near the end and then my PS2 died.

You're indirectly doing me an amazing service!

Verbose
Apr 22, 2006
Thanum an Dhul, do ye think I'm dead!?

Jaster? For real?

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.



Wild Knight posted:

Yeah, these pretty much sum up my experience with the game. I was really, really hopeful that it would be Skies of Arcadia in space, and it kind of is but it doesn't quite hit the sweet spot between cliche and charm that Skies of Arcadia does. Also a certain JRPG staple enemy being way too friggin' difficult pretty much stonewalled me and I never picked it up again after that.

So heck, I'll watch this. Though, if I may ask, why a video LP for a JRPG?

Because A) the cutscenes must be both seen and commented upon and B) there will be aggressive cutting once we get through the first area. Right now there's plenty to talk about, but once that stops being true, you can expect to see a lot more fade cuts. Also, the side stuff that's potentially interesting to someone (but not everyone) will be set aside in separate and clearly marked videos.

Wild Knight
Mar 27, 2010

Foul villain! I do not flee. I will never turn my back on you and run away!

[he says, running away]


Ah, so, basically not at all the FFXIII LPs' way of things. I sort of figured that'd be the case, but it's still good to know for sure.

HOLY poo poo BALLS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FORUMS

Image21
Feb 14, 2012


I liked this game. I liked it a lot. Until a thing happened, and then I raged. So much rage.

SWMadness
Jul 16, 2011


Oh wow I know I've been watching way too many cartoons and anime series when I had Will Friedle and Yuri Lowenthal's voices pegged before you introduced them.

I'll be looking forward to this LP, looks like a fun ride with you and kalonZombie narrating it.

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


Krysmphoenix posted:

Yeahhh...I also enjoyed Rogue Galaxy probably far more than I should have. It's fun to play, and that's probably why I played it for so long and completed the bonus dungeon planet thing at the end.

But yes, Star Wars the JRPG...seems completely appropriate. It's been a long while since I played this, and no one else I know has played it. Curious to see how others feel about this game.

I'm one of those who really enjoyed it much less than I probably should. I didn't get very far--maybe the second major, ah, location, to dance around the need for even vague spoilers. I just couldn't stand the majority of the cast and the combat didn't impress me. I remember it was one of the few rentals I returned early and I did not have a good opinion, though enough time has passed that I don't remember all the reasons why (though I pin a lot of them on the cast in the OP--god they're awful).

I have no experience with Skies of Arcadia so maybe I lacked a sense of familiarity that would have helped me through. Everyone seems to think that the similarity is a point in the game's favor.

AnotherGamer
Jan 12, 2007
Please change my name to "The Guff Machine"

I thought this was an OK game although it did have a bunch of stupid decisions like a bunch of upcoming battle mechanics and several assholish dungeons and bossfights.

Giovanni_Sinclair
Apr 25, 2009

It was on this day that his greatest enemy defeated, the true lord of darkness arose. His name? MARIO.


Colon V posted:

This looks like Skies of Arcadia in Space. I hope it is.

Am also getting those vibes too, thats some good vibes too.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

cheesy anime pizza undresses you with pepperoni eyes


I like some of the game's mechanics but at the same time it just feels... meh? It's like half a really inventive JRPG and half the blandest thing ever made and the whiplash just doesn't work at all. It doesn't help that the cast, minus Space Xiahou Dun, are pretty much endlessly annoying. I mean, I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to characters. They can be generic as gently caress and so long as there's something for me to latch onto, I'll probably like it. I'll take a 17-year-old boy who's kind of dumb and rushes into things but has a good heart, so long as you make me buy that he does care about saving the world from the Evil God or whatever. Seriously, it's almost laughable how easy it is to get me to like a character.

And yet somehow I didn't like a single character in this game. Even the one guy I liked just sorta managed not to annoy me. The rest aren't only bland, but they're kind of... low effort? The VAs do a great job all things considered, but the material's so bland that I don't even buy any of these characters actually caring about the situations they're in or the goals they have. You can't even call them generic, they're like cardboard cutouts of generic characters.

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011



I didn't get to play this too much, given I only rented it once. I'll be glad to see where this goes, especially with this pair of co-commentators.

However... It's a pity you didn't point out the narrator's voice actor yet, Bobbin. Jamieson Price is a particular favourite of mine, thanks to watching The Count of Monte Cristo anime.

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012


I remember playing this thinking there'd be aliens.

I was disappointed.

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


Yapping Eevee posted:

I didn't get to play this too much, given I only rented it once. I'll be glad to see where this goes, especially with this pair of co-commentators.

However... It's a pity you didn't point out the narrator's voice actor yet, Bobbin. Jamieson Price is a particular favourite of mine, thanks to watching The Count of Monte Cristo anime.

Also the voice of Nier and one of the coolest characters from Poison Pink/Eternal Poison, Rondemion.

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Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011



Lotish posted:

Also the voice of Nier
Not to mention a whole bunch of other stuff... But yes, that was a pleasant surprise back when TDI covered Nier. I just mentioned the main reason I remember him. (That show is hard to forget, thanks to its freaky moving fabric effects.)

Regardless, the little VA segments are pretty awesome. I definitely wouldn't have connected that guy with Ron Stoppable, despite how much of Kim I watched.

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