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Roman
Aug 8, 2002



BrokenKnees posted:

I'm still not going to pay $150 to yell at my tv to avoid button presses in Skyrim or Mass Effect 3, but if they made a dumbed down version that was just voice controls
They already have, it's called a "headset mic" but it's not enabled to work with voice commands in any games for some silly reason.

Roman fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2013 around 03:37

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Sieg
Sep 28, 2009

Must kill all humans


Lifespan posted:

If you ever experience that, it means you need to run the Kinect tuner again. Mishearing something said in a conversation can definitely happen, but the technology should ignore any sound coming from the Xbox itself.

I have replaced my surround sound since the last time I ran the tuner, so this wold make sense. The instructions say: Set the volume to the highest that you normally use to play games or watch TV.

Thanks!

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001

Politics is the only thing more boring than blood samples.


Roman posted:

They already have, it's called a "headset mic" but it's not enabled to work with voice commands in any games for some silly reason.
Except Binary Domain, right?

DrNutt
Apr 12, 2007

If you want a picture of the future, imagine getting loud and spilling drinks on the Citadel - forever.


Roman posted:

They already have, it's called a "headset mic" but it's not enabled to work with voice commands in any games for some silly reason.

Because that's actually bullshit and there's a lot more that goes into the technology than that. Which incidentally is why the voice commands in Binary Domain are so lovely (and often hilarious since it assumes you are saying gently caress 90% of the time).

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007
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All the extra work that went into the Kinect microphone is related to positioning your voice in 3D space and filtering out the room echoes, none of which is necessary for a headset mic. "Better with Kinect" voice commands being limited to Kinect are purely the result of the contract the developer agreed to when they took Microsoft's money.

barren_sky
May 6, 2004



I'm going to redownload all of my Rock Band songs, but am going to keep them on a separate USB drive that I can unplug when not in use. That way my console doesn't get bogged down with checking licenses every time I start up or quit to dashboard. Is there a way to change my default storage device to the USB stick so that I can just set everything to download there? Otherwise i'll have to transfer everything to my hard drive, then copy everything to USB.

Chasiubao
Apr 2, 2010


Just remove the harddrive

barren_sky
May 6, 2004



Chasiubao posted:

Just remove the harddrive

Thanks for the tip!

FuSchnick
Jun 6, 2001

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived...

pseudorandom name posted:

All the extra work that went into the Kinect microphone is related to positioning your voice in 3D space and filtering out the room echoes, none of which is necessary for a headset mic. "Better with Kinect" voice commands being limited to Kinect are purely the result of the contract the developer agreed to when they took Microsoft's money.
You are wrong. But you seem to think that your made-up explanation is actually a known fact. Why is that?

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007
INSOLENT


FuSchnick posted:

You are wrong. But you seem to think that your made-up explanation is actually a known fact. Why is that?

Because multiple games have shipped with fully functional voice commands via the controller headset and there's literally no reason a Mass Effect 3 or Skyrim couldn't do the same thing except the suitcase full of money Microsoft sent EA and Bethesda's way.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


pseudorandom name posted:

Because multiple games have shipped with fully functional voice commands via the controller headset and there's literally no reason a Mass Effect 3 or Skyrim couldn't do the same thing except the suitcase full of money Microsoft sent EA and Bethesda's way.

Wouldn't it be kind of dumb to be wearing a headset during Skyrim in the first place? Or the SP portion of ME3?

I don't have a horse in this race, I'm just curious.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009


EC posted:

Wouldn't it be kind of dumb to be wearing a headset during Skyrim in the first place? Or the SP portion of ME3?

I don't have a horse in this race, I'm just curious.

It would also be dumb to have a Kinect.

Chasiubao
Apr 2, 2010


pseudorandom name posted:

Because multiple games have shipped with fully functional voice commands via the controller headset and there's literally no reason a Mass Effect 3 or Skyrim couldn't do the same thing except the suitcase full of money Microsoft sent EA and Bethesda's way.

Which multiple games are these? I'm genuinely curious since I don't remember any prior to the Kinect being launched.

cornface
Dec 28, 2006
MUST DEFEND GEORGE ZIMMERMAN AT ALL COSTS* (*not racist)


Chasiubao posted:

Which multiple games are these? I'm genuinely curious since I don't remember any prior to the Kinect being launched.

Rainbow Six: Vegas was one of them.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

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Chasiubao posted:

Which multiple games are these? I'm genuinely curious since I don't remember any prior to the Kinect being launched.

There's a Tom Clancy game that exclusively used voice commands. I don't know if it worked though.

Lifespan
Mar 5, 2002


pseudorandom name posted:

Because multiple games have shipped with fully functional voice commands via the controller headset and there's literally no reason a Mass Effect 3 or Skyrim couldn't do the same thing except the suitcase full of money Microsoft sent EA and Bethesda's way.

Yup, games like Endwar work great with a headset. The developer also had to develop their own engine for processing voice commands not limited to the incredibly difficult task of ignoring noise, audio from the game itself, and translating speech despite there being a wide array of timbre, volume, and accents.

Or ME3 and Skyrim can hook in to native tools included free to 360 developers that does not require developing any extra voice processing and works with the low resource overhead the Kinect provides.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



The only even remotely playable one I remember was Endwar, but that only had like 8 commands total. Off the top of my head, Binary Domain, Star Trek: Bridge Commander, and Lifeline were all kind of shitheaps in terms of voice recognition.

efb on Endwar, but man. That was a hell of a game right there.

Vlad the Retailer
Oct 16, 2011

"The cosmonauts were transfixed with wonderment as the sun set - over the Earth - there lucklessly, untethered Comrade Todd on fire."

Which regions are Live Points codes restricted to?

(read: would I be able to purchase points off Amazon to use them in Norway?)

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

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Points are restricted to their home region. The only exception is that some US points work in Canada.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007



Chasiubao posted:

Which multiple games are these? I'm genuinely curious since I don't remember any prior to the Kinect being launched.
There was a somewhat recent xbox strategy game involving mic voice commands, iirc.

efb: Endwar

TheGreySpectre
Sep 18, 2012


ZeeBoi posted:

 
Q: Can I hook up an Xbox 360 to my LCD monitor?

Yes! And thanks to the NXE dashboard update, resolutions seen on many monitors are now supported. Get the official VGA cable or the one from Monoprice and you're good to go!


Seeing as how pretty much every LCD monitor since 2006 has had DVI I would like to point out that you will get much better picture quality using a DVI->HDMI adapter or cable and going HDMI on the xbox to DVI on the monitor. Using the VGA cable I found the colors to be consistently extremely washed out.

As for getting audio via while doing this, you conveniently answer that in the next question of your FAQ.

FuSchnick
Jun 6, 2001

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived...

pseudorandom name posted:

Because multiple games have shipped with fully functional voice commands via the controller headset and there's literally no reason a Mass Effect 3 or Skyrim couldn't do the same thing except the suitcase full of money Microsoft sent EA and Bethesda's way.
Well, recently there was Binary Domain, where the voice control doesn't work for poo poo. And that Tom Clancy game quite a while back (long before Kinect was released).

There is a lot of processing involved in speech recognition. For most developers, it isn't worth the effort, especially when there is a wide range of possible devices to deal with (360s accept standardized headphone/mic devices, not all of which are created equal).

Kinect has multiple microphones which provide a few nice features, but the important one for voice recognition is noise cancellation (which requires calibration). There is a whole pipeline of software built into Kinect and the Kinect libraries that handles this, plus a lot of the other heavy-lifting of voice recognition. Kinect hardware is also standardized, so the mics (and their positions) are a known constant. Recognition is a sensitive enough area that you can't make a very good "one engine fits all microphone setups" engine for games to use without sacrificing a ton of accuracy in the process.

So yeah, it is *possible* to use headset mics, but the Kinect pipeline is tuned specifically for Kinect hardware. Making it work with headsets would be a ton more work, with much less payoff. Nothing stops devs from rolling their own (again, see Binary Domain), but it usually doesn't end up working well. While on the other hand, you can use the Kinect libraries, and get better than average voice recognition with very little effort (seriously, the XDK libraries for Kinect are pretty low effort compared to most game development tasks). And on top of that, the Kinect pipeline requires a lot less CPU cycles than doing your own recognition, because some of the work is made easier by the Kinect hardware.

FuSchnick
Jun 6, 2001

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived...

TheGreySpectre posted:

Seeing as how pretty much every LCD monitor since 2006 has had DVI I would like to point out that you will get much better picture quality using a DVI->HDMI adapter or cable and going HDMI on the xbox to DVI on the monitor. Using the VGA cable I found the colors to be consistently extremely washed out.

As for getting audio via while doing this, you conveniently answer that in the next question of your FAQ.
In his defense, that Q/A is like... 5 years old. At that time, 360's didn't come with HDMI built in. And before the NXE update (Nov. 2008) very few non-TV resolutions were supported, making a significant number of LCDs unusable.

5 years later, it is not really a significant factor anymore... the 360 has HDMI out of the box and supports a lot of very common resolutions, and most monitors in 2013 are much more flexible than 2008.

Fraction
Mar 27, 2010

Still life, cat and a bouncy ball.


I haven't had netflix open on my xbox for a while, so I downloaded the most recent update today and I think it's hosed itself up.

I managed to watch about ten minutes of a film before it hit a wall and just buffered for about five minutes, then played ten seconds, then buffered, then played, etc. I tried putting on a different program, and it tried to buffer, got halfway, and crashed. Is the update screwy or something?

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


Anyone else having issues with Live? I can "sign in" but I'm not actually connected. The service page says everything is up and running, though. I've rebooted the console and router.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007



EC posted:

Anyone else having issues with Live? I can "sign in" but I'm not actually connected. The service page says everything is up and running, though. I've rebooted the console and router.
I've been having slow netflix and slow logins for a week or so at least, the other day it took a full 3 or 4 minutes to log in to my own console. Also my roommate was geting some 4 or 5 digit hex code errors trying to watch netflix movies, and once he paused one and started it and it had no video until he quit and restarted. vv

The other night netflix was so pixelated I gave up watching.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at Jan 15, 2013 around 23:44

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Awesome power!


How well do USB hubs work with stuff like headsets/controllers? Do I need a powered one or can I use an unpowered one?

Christoff
Jun 18, 2004

I'm the living embodiment of every negative military stereotype



Definitely powered. Get one with a power switch. Not sure how they are with the 360

Lord Wexia
Sep 27, 2005

Boo zombie apocalypse.
Hooray beer!

Does anyone use their xbox for Verizon FiOS TV? If you do... does it work? Mine used to, but since they updated the app it doesn't detect me as a subscriber and verizon honestly has no idea what I'm talking about when I call in about it.

Oh well, probably not worth it anyway.

torjus
Nov 22, 2005

I want YOU to MSPaint!

Vlad the Retailer posted:

Which regions are Live Points codes restricted to?

(read: would I be able to purchase points off Amazon to use them in Norway?)
I've used these guys a couple of times, and they always deliver the codes within minutes: http://www.cheapxboxlivecodes.com/
They use Paypal, and the site looks shady as all hell, but it's legit.
The EU cards will work in Norway

Neo Helbeast
Jun 6, 2010

I have no idea what I'm doing


Lord Wexia posted:

Does anyone use their xbox for Verizon FiOS TV? If you do... does it work? Mine used to, but since they updated the app it doesn't detect me as a subscriber and verizon honestly has no idea what I'm talking about when I call in about it.

Oh well, probably not worth it anyway.

Mine does, but it's so limited I never use it. I'm not sure what's the point of an app that only has 20 channels out of 1000.

DrNutt
Apr 12, 2007

If you want a picture of the future, imagine getting loud and spilling drinks on the Citadel - forever.


Neo Helbeast posted:

Mine does, but it's so limited I never use it. I'm not sure what's the point of an app that only has 20 channels out of 1000.

That actually seems cool considering 98% of cable channels are filled with unwatchable poo poo anyway.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Which 20 channels? I just went over it in my head and couldn't come up with 20 that I regularly watch, so that could be a pretty great deal (if I could get Fios).

Neo Helbeast
Jun 6, 2010

I have no idea what I'm doing


gooby on rails posted:

Which 20 channels? I just went over it in my head and couldn't come up with 20 that I regularly watch, so that could be a pretty great deal (if I could get Fios).

CNN HL
BBC WN
I.D.
MILTY
MIL HIS
H2
Okxygen
Style
OWN
DIY
G4
TVGN
MTV2
MTVjams
VH1SOUL
Centric
TCM
HALMRK
TVLAND
NICKTOONS
TEENNICK
NICK Jr.
CARTOON
BOOM
Disney Jr.
Sprout
TV ONE
Galavisn
USA HD
TNT HD
TBS HD
FX HD
Spike HD
ESPN NEWS HD
CNN HD
CNBC HD
MSNBC HD
FOXBUS HD
FoxNews HD
Disc HD
NGC HD
SCI HD
HIS HD
ANPL HD
NG WILDHD
TLC HD
Lifetm HD
We tv HD
FOOD HD
HGTV HD
Travel HD
SCI FI HD
A&E HD
TruTV HD
Bravo HD
BBCA HD
COMEDY HD
E! HD
ABCFAM HD
MTV HD
VH1 HD
CMT HD
AMC HD
IFC HD
NICK HD
BET HD
Disney HD
DXD HD
The HubHD
EPIX HD
HBO HD
HBO2 HD
MAX HD

Bourbon
Sep 17, 2006



I was considering selling my 360 S 250GB and for some reason thought it would be a good idea to pull the hard drive and DBAN it. Well, that was stupid. I was under the (false) impression that the 360 would reconfigure it after a wipe, since it's an official drive, but it looks like the 360 will only format partitions, not recreate the necessary partitions once they're gone. The console no longer lists the drive in the Storage menu.

I've searched around and found guides for using WD Scorpios with hacked firmware, and the instructions mention it recreating partitions (0/2/3), but I'm not sure what will happen if I restore this firmware on an official 360 hard drive. The instructions are all several years old too, and I purchased the 360 in December 2011, so I'm leery of trying this since the firmware might be outdated...

I'm not sure what my options are at this point. Any suggestions?

Red Crown
Oct 20, 2008


For some reason, I can't send messages to players I'm not friends with. I have no idea why. A long while back (like, a year ago) my Xbox had the "Family Settings" thing on it. It was a complicated process that involved a long call to XBL support but I had it entirely removed. What the hell? Why can't I send poorly worded racial epithets and brag about my very specific sexual conquests?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

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Bourbon posted:

I was considering selling my 360 S 250GB and for some reason thought it would be a good idea to pull the hard drive and DBAN it. Well, that was stupid. I was under the (false) impression that the 360 would reconfigure it after a wipe, since it's an official drive, but it looks like the 360 will only format partitions, not recreate the necessary partitions once they're gone. The console no longer lists the drive in the Storage menu.

I've searched around and found guides for using WD Scorpios with hacked firmware, and the instructions mention it recreating partitions (0/2/3), but I'm not sure what will happen if I restore this firmware on an official 360 hard drive. The instructions are all several years old too, and I purchased the 360 in December 2011, so I'm leery of trying this since the firmware might be outdated...

I'm not sure what my options are at this point. Any suggestions?

It will work, the only difference is some identifier number will change to one every other hacked drive uses and theoretically Microsoft could block it in the future. They probably won't, though. It's been years now.

Keep in mind that for backwards compatibility to work, that needs to be created as a second partition. I don't know if it's the default with that tool since I've never used it.

Achti
Jan 1, 2013


torjus posted:

I've used these guys a couple of times, and they always deliver the codes within minutes: http://www.cheapxboxlivecodes.com/
They use Paypal, and the site looks shady as all hell, but it's legit.
The EU cards will work in Norway

The first (and so far the only) time I ordered a code from them, they sent me one that had already been used. I was pissed off because I assumed that there would be no way to prove that I wasn't the one who used it and they would just tell me to gently caress off if I asked for my money back. To my surprise their customer support responded to my email within a day and, once I contacted Xbox live customer support like they asked, they gave me a refund within 24 hours.

My friend has ordered several codes from them with no problems at all, so I guess I just had some really bad luck. At least their customer support was helpful.


Red Crown posted:

For some reason, I can't send messages to players I'm not friends with. I have no idea why. A long while back (like, a year ago) my Xbox had the "Family Settings" thing on it. It was a complicated process that involved a long call to XBL support but I had it entirely removed. What the hell? Why can't I send poorly worded racial epithets and brag about my very specific sexual conquests?

Chances are that nobody can send you any messages either unless they're on your friends list. Changing this shouldn't require a call to XBL support though. Have you checked your privacy settings? go to settings -> Privacy -> change settings and see if it's set to "Child" or something.

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



I probably asked this before but I'll be damned if I can remember the answer:

When you pay to switch your Xbox gamertag, does the old gamertag go back into the available pool?





I have two gamertags. Martytoof and Martytoof CND. I created Martytoof when I lived in the States. When I moved to Canada I had to create a new one because up until now Microsoft wouldn't let you transition GTs between regions. I've played with Martytoof CND for a long time now so I'd rather use that one, but I prefer the Martytoof name.

If I change Martytoof to Martytoof USA, can I switch Martytoof CND to Martytoof later?

MARTYTOOF!

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FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Awesome power!


I don't think so I think if you change it away its still considered taken for some time.

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