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csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Saint Celestine posted:

So in EU3, I became so rich, that I think my ducat counter hit the maximum and went negative. I'm now -2 million ducats. How do I fix this?

Edit your savegame and set it to whatever it was. Searching for human=yes will lead you to your nation, then find the ducats figure in your section and change it back. I recommend using Notepad++, regular Notepad would always hang up on huge EU3 save files.

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csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Tomn posted:

Related question - has anyone ever managed to play EU3 all the way to the end?

Once.

I started as Holland and went with a largely isolationist approach, limiting myself but still ending up with massive holdings. For most of the game the only land borders I had with anybody were the ones with France and the HRE. My colonies in the Americas were only in the Caribbean so I never had any borders to fight over in the Americas. I limited myself to Indonesia and Sri Lanka for the longest time but ended up getting a foothold in India after taking France's outposts there to retaliate against their attack on me. I ended up maxing all my techs and spent the last forty years of the game as a megapowerful Constitutional Republic dismantling the Absolute Monarchy in France into little tiny bits. By the end of the game I had force-culture converted Normandy and Paris into the Greater Netherlands before the game finally ended. If I hadn't limited myself, I very easily could have gone apeshit on the hated French much earlier or conquered swaths of Asia beyond India. My technological supremacy was so absurd by the 1700s that I was defeating French armies three times my size without any real effort.

I need to finish a full EU3 game before EU4 comes out. Maybe I'll start one soon with some good mods, it's certainly been a while.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Smirr posted:

I have a spare EU3 Chronicles key, too. PM me or contact me on Steam.

edit: gone to Chief Savage Man

Thanks a lot for this!

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Kersch posted:

I'm currently involved in an EU3 game playing as a naval power, and I'm really wishing that I had a 'detach obsolete' button on my navies which split off vessels from a lower naval tech tier.

Can we please have this?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Is HoD more of an old-style AHD/DW full expansion or more of CK2-style focused DLC?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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If I can round out a game of East vs West by turning the Northeast into a socialist rogue state then invade the South with Soviet blessing while Margaret Thatcher ineffectually smuggles arms in through the Texan Authority, then it will be the greatest game ever.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Port the game to East vs West and form the Sioux Fracking Bureau.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Cool, I now have HoD and AHD and a Steam version of Victoria II.

Played a full Prussia/Germany game when the game first came out, enjoyed it but it was pretty rough.

Thought it had promise, excited to see how far they've come with it.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Playing NNM with the beta patch. I've been tearing apart the Austrians and Russians (as Germany) and releasing new countries. The more consolidated the better, since its less sphere stuff to manage. Bohemia-Moravia merged with Slovakia after I freed them. I got Galica-Lodomeria out of Austria through a crisis. Would Congress Poland merge with Galicia-Lodomeria into a big Poland?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I'm asking that if I went ahead right now and released Congress Poland from Russia, would it merge with Galicia to make regular Poland like Bohemia and Slovakia did to make Czechoslovakia.

Also China just westernized :stare:

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Historically accurate, though.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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1906 in my Prussia->Germany game using NNM and HoD. Early game started out like every Prussia game ever except I decided not to go all the way with it and left Austria alone after cleaving Czechoslovakia off them and getting Galicia off in a crisis for free. Then I turned the ax to Russia and chopped out Congress Poland and the Baltic provinces. The UK backed me up during all of this and I only had to fight France by themselves and not Russia to get Alsace-Lorraine.

The USA was interesting for a while, the FSA was the great power while the anarcho-liberal Confederacy languished but then they united again and I'm not really sure how. There was a cool dynamic for a little bit with the USCA and CSA versus the FSA and Mexico.

True to German form, I got into the scramble late and ended up with Biafra, Cameroon and Adamaka or whatever that one between them is called. They are all states now and in a neat little shape, while Italy has been vomiting its colonies all over and France keeps releasing everything which is annoying as hell and makes the map really ugly. Spain also managed to take a break from being a reactionary shithole to conquer Egypt. There's a bunch of civilized native countries hanging around too.

The presence of a Great Power China upset the traditional Russo-Japanese rivalry and turned them into friends. China then sought me out as an ally and we went to town on the Russians. The first Great War was Russia and Japan versus Germany and China. China wanted all of their cores back from Russia, I wanted to humiliate Russia and knock them out of GP status so they would stop trying to take Poland away from me, and after I realized I would need to commit significant troops to help China overcome their initial losses to the Japanese, I took the Caroline Islands from the Japanese as well for a resupply base. I then sphered Columbia and built the Panama Canal for a base more than anything else.]



I might go for Belgium next and knock them off in favor of Canada so that I can sphere the little French African puppets that France kept releasing and I kept giving to Belgium to get them on my side in various crises. The UK isn't allied with me anymore which is problematic so I also want to wait out the CB penalties for re-allying them so I don't get surrounded like historic Germany.

I'm tantalizingly close to getting the Liberals out in favor of the Socialists too. Do the loyalty focuses help at all or am I wasting time?

Also Luxembourg is a Proletarian Dictatorship.

csm141 fucked around with this message at 03:46 on May 28, 2013

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Jul 19, 2010

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http://www.destructoid.com/europa-universalis-iv-rule-britannia--254841.phtml

This article here says EU4 will be 39.99. I thought somebody high up at PI said in an interview around the time of CK2's release they were sticking with a 29.99 price point from now on. If I play EU4 as much as 3, I certainly won't mind putting out the :20bux: :20bux: but just something I noticed.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

You must have misremembered or misread something, because CK2 was $39.99 at launch and really successful. That seems to be their sweet spot price point for their bigger budget titles. While smaller titles like March of the Eagles or Sengoku will be $20.

Found a bit of it I posted on another forum but the article I *think* it came from is now a redirect loop. Dated 3/15/12

quote:

MCV: But you believe in a different approach in your pricing?

FW: We’re not going to continue with a max price of $40 for new games, we’ll drop it even further, to $30. I haven’t told anyone that yet, so there is a scoop for you. The idea is that we make more money per game now, selling digitally, than we did selling the games through retail channels.

MCV: Because it costs you much less this way?

FW: Precisely, and that lets us drop the prices, in the hope of reaching an even bigger market, that’s our thing. So from today we’re lowering the prices on all our new full price games. Crusader Kings 2 was the last $40 game from Paradox. But we won’t lower the quality or scope of the games, that’s not the point. We just hope to reach a larger audience by lowering the price.

e: http://bit.ly/10JQen6 here's the google cache

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I go through all that effort to put in post disclaimers and nobody even reads them. I just wonder what happened to that idea.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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The Crusades before the first major patch really sucked, they were wholly non-collaborative and your entire army would be dead by the time it showed up because of embarked attrition.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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So what would happen if I sent my army to chill in my Polish and Baltic puppets and let Militant Socialists take over Germany?

Would it be really bad for my country overall or would it just force a government change?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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uPen posted:

All your puppets would break free and you'd lose all your spheres.

Welp, time to blast some rebels.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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ZearothK posted:

Only if you're not already a democracy, though.

Can you clarify this? I'm HM's Government now with every political reform passed, would I lose my dear puppets?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I wouldn't really mind losing Poland since it was handed to me but I went through a ton of work to get the United Baltic Provinces. What is another good way to get socialists elected?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I preordered from the Paradox Web Store then looked at Steam and saw the discount. :/

Oh well, call it a tip, p-dox.

I'd probably go for a Victoria II to Darkest Hour converter though that would never happen. I feel like Victoria II has a much more lively historical narrative to it that could end in the Darkest Hour mega war finale. But bringing it all the way from EU or CK would really add to it because then all the countries would have like hundreds of years of history behind them. It's very rare I even finish a full game of CK or EU though. One of these days though I would like to get a full game going and chronicle it.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I think the crises and Great War mechanics have really added to the year to year narrative of Victoria II. Like any good Paradox game narrative, it would require some creativity and imagination on the part of the player. I did have a really fun EU3 Miscmods AAR before I bought a new computer and lost the save game. The main narrative though that I find really interesting is the one of ideas. Instead of CK which is all about feudalism and religion, and EU which is about imperialism and religion, Victoria really features the titanic forces of history that came to a destructive head in World War II. Stuff like the advent of communism and fascism, total war and industrialization. Just that alone makes for some really interesting gameplay.

csm141 fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jun 7, 2013

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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V for Vegas posted:

I bought from the Paradox web store and was only sent a receipt. I assume the Steam key will be sent on release?

There's usually a release of keys to other retailers before the release itself, maybe like a week or so before. Depends on each game but either on release or a few days before it, probably.

I have a westernized GP China and they didn't even collapse. They're my Russia-smashing buddies.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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So I've finally managed to get the Socialists elected in mega Germany.

And now I don't know how to work the planned economy because I've always been stuck with Liberals before. I've started a tank factory so I can start building armor divisions but other than that, I'm kind of clueless on what to build. How do you guys decide where and what to build?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Cool, thanks for the tips. I'm dealing with several decades of capitalist-designed buildup so its kind of a mess, but at least they built railroads everywhere. I'm almost having more success industrializing the colonies and recently annexed rump Austria because I can start from scratch whereas the German heartland is a big ugly rear end mess. I may move some factories around soon and see if I get a more efficient set up going.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Remind me how education and administration spending works. I think I overloaded on bureaucrats trying to get my colonies to become states. Do I reduce the levels to get rid of bureaucrats?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Man, the Dismantle Nation CB really goes both ways. On one hand, I enjoy seeing realistic late game destruction of powers. On the other hand, there are now four great powers with colonies on Madagascar. The inland colonies seemed to be split up in a more coherent fashion at least but the coastal ones are all over the place.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I got Anti Military Planned Economy in my game, which was plenty workable because I'm Germany and therefore can kick everybody's rear end anyway.

Finished my first Victoria 2 game with HoD and NNM.



The socialists spent the last thirty years in power because the switch to Full Citizenship gave them the votes of all those angry poor Africans in my colonies that I had made states. By the end, they were hitting absolute majorities with the communists while the anarcho/liberals had about 25, the conservative/reactionaries had about 15 and the fascists 10. I found Planned Economy to be fine, though I was really just pumping more money into the economy that fifty years of LF made and built a handful of more advanced factories myself, while more or less expanding every factory all the time. I tried to industrialize my sphere members too but Hungary was the only one where the factories would stick. I had the highest prestige score, was second in industry to the US and second in military to Japan, who had a pretty crappy industry but a huge navy.



The brave new world. After two Dismantle Nation wars against France and Spain, most of the Old World is a disgusting mess. As you can see from Madagascar and Indochina, the game really divvies up colonies in the ugliest way they can. Spain's was neater because I fought the whole war myself but France's in particular is really scattershot and I have little colonies all over the world. Of major countries, France and Russia ended up fascist. Poland would be fascist if they weren't stuck in Democracy as my puppet, since I own so much of their poo poo that their revanchism must be through the roof. China was fascist for a time, went through the Warlord Era, was taken over by Japan as a puppet, Japan helped them reunite the country, then China became a Great Power and broke the puppetry is now a lovely LF democracy like Japan. For a long time, the UK, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands and the USA made a great socialist alliance that came together to beat the poo poo out of France and Russia a bunch of times. There were two Great Wars, the first between Germany and China versus Russia and Japan, the second between France, Russia and Japan versus Germany, the UK, the Netherlands, the USA and Canada. After the second war though, nothing much happened except for my takedown of communist Spain.



My colonial empire is kind of ugly though I did manage to get colonies on pretty much every continent, including that French island in Canada, the Panama Canal and a smattering of poo poo everywhere else. I ended up releasing a lot of poo poo in Africa to deal with the infamy of gobbling up Austria and stealing colonies from everybody. My three European puppets are Poland, Occitania and the United Baltic Provinces. Poland in particular I really did the screwjob on, I let them get beat to poo poo by France and Russia, communists took over and seized my railroads so I took them over as a puppet then beat up Russia for their poo poo back. It was a fun game. I will probably start a CK2: Old Gods game soon and see if I can get it wrapped up by the time EU4 releases.

csm141 fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jun 15, 2013

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Jul 19, 2010

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WeaponGradeSadness posted:

That's a pretty interesting-looking world you ended up with there. Do you remember who that bluish-green nation in eastern India is? Congrats on knocking the UK all the way back to third place, too, that must have taken some doing.
I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about but it might be Hyderabad or Bundelkhand. Bundelkhand got really close in the 20s to breaking free of the UK through Great Powerhood but then Canada edged them out and they fell back down to secondary. And yeah I passed the UK when I gobbled up Austria. We were friends for a very long time so I didn't really do anything to knock them exactly. The USA really seemed to benefit from the fall of Russia and France. I noticed a ton of immigrants from France and Russia to the US and their industry score got them up and over the UK in this time period.

wukkar posted:

You passed on the one of the best states in the game, Bohemia?

I did. I had the idea when I started the game that I would go for the historical Germany instead of Greater Germany and get large puppets/sphere members. So instead of gobbling Bohemia and Moravia like I normally would I instead liberated Bohemia-Moravia then got Slovakia out later so they would form Czechoslovakia. Then they released Slovakia as a satellite anyway so I kind of gave up on that idea and just ate Austria whole when I got the event to (at the cost of releasing a bunch of African minors I had just conquered so that Europe wouldn't kill me for having like 30 infamy). Oh well.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Steam summer sale will be rolling around some time in the next month, CK2 is high profile enough to get a daily sale.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Those borders. D:

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Oops

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Yeah, you would blob up slowly until you were powerful enough to fight everything, then you fought the entire world nonstop forever. And you had to wait for unification events. And send merchants manually.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Double post

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Oh yeah, you could also diplo vassalize and annex more or less anybody who was weaker than you with enough effort in vanilla EU3. I remember a Castille AAR that had him diploannex Great Britain with all of its massive colonial empire and Hungary that had blobbed into Iraq.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I'm playing EU3 with Miscmods as Byzantium. I took over Bursa as the glorious Byzantine Empire and now I'm getting a Black Sea Trade event over and over that has no effects. What is supposed to be happening here?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Nightblade posted:

Miscmods isn't compatible with 5.2. You need the compatibility patch from here.

Thanks.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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Boy, EU3 sure likes to throw curveballs at you. My Byzantium game, I'm doing a pretty standard start, very aggressive, trying to get all the old cores and missions done ASAP before the West pulls away from my backwards rear end. I end up getting screwed in two wars by the Golden Horde so I buddy up to Poland and Muscovy and we lay the smackdown on the boys in gold. Then Poland and I end up putting the squeeze on Hungary then double teaming Bohemia after that. And doing all of this I am going through the regular hallmarks of a Byzantium game like doing the missions to get Southern Italy and Venice. Then they inherit Lithuania. Then I inherit them.



It's 1490. I think I'm a shoo in for 'Most Improved - 15th Century'.

Now comes fifty years of overextension but since my forcelimit jumped to 170 from 75, I think I will be fine. I've just never had a game jump me into mega empire mode this early.

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Jul 19, 2010

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I found it, the best colony rename in Miscmod.

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csm141
Jul 19, 2010

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I think you'd be better off removing 'of Arabia' and just calling it 'The Caliphate'. The demonym for Australia could be 'Caliphal'. Also I think China should be treated like it was historically but within the divides you've introduced. The resident monarchy could be under fire from foriegn-supported liberal democrats and conservative/reactionary monarchists, likely to align with their European co-ideologues.

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