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If the combat was unchanged or improved upon I would be taking good-natured jabs at the lovely storytelling and dialogue and probably buy the game on day one. But it isn't and I'm not. The objectively bad story/cutscenes (and all of the gratuitous self fellating from the devs about how loving great they are) is the poo poo cherry on top of the greater poo poo sundae.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 14:31 |
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| # ? May 24, 2013 02:46 |
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It's a good comparison, but a major thing that gets me is that I absolutely do not want to play a game as Ninja Theory's Dante. At least Warrior Within tried to maintain the Prince being the same character, just hardened as gently caress due to the Dahaka chasing him. In hindsight yeah it wasn't executed well, but they were able to do some damage control afterwards with Two Thrones, and in spite of hard swings I think an argument could be made that he was the same character throughout. The fact that Ninja Theory hasn't just taken Dante in a new direction, but rather made an entirely new character from the ground up who is a total loving piece of poo poo and unappealing in every aspect makes it different. This is Ninja Theory's lovely character and "Dante" in name only. Obviously this applies to the whole cast as well. This just isn't a Devil May Cry game, it's "DmC." I don't think that better gameplay would deflect that much heat honestly because the grimy, soulless, dickish and unappealing style of it is just so pervasive that I feel like I could never overlook it. I can't enjoy the game if I'm constantly in control of a character I utterly loathe.
Gumdrop Larry fucked around with this message at Jan 10, 2013 around 14:40 |
| # ? Jan 10, 2013 14:35 |
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In due fairness, DmC has a pretty big focus on the story. It's being marketed as delivering a sophisticated and mature story, and that's also the focus in the majority of its trailers. It's only natural that we then judge it based on the quality of its story too. After all, if their [seemingly] biggest focus is on the story, and it's poo poo, what does that say for the rest of the game too if they can't get their main thing right? It's like this too. You don't judge an 80's action movie with Schwarzenegger, or whoever, based upon its story. You judge it on its action. Meanwhile, The Dark Knight Rises is an action film with particular focus on the story. Suddenly it's poo poo if the story is garbage, even if they action was pretty good. That's DMC vs. DmC in a nutshell.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 14:39 |
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Their story has the "I'm your bitch line" and has a character deal with Wiccan magic that involves squirrel semen (gently caress now there's a sentence I'd never thought I'd write). I'm pretty sure that immediately invalidates their "mature and serious" story.quote:Neo-Dante? Do they mean the ripped shirt Neo wore in the Real World? If so, way to miss the loving point NT: Because the directors specifically had him wear that crappy shirt to show off the differences between his Real World body and his body within The Matrix. It was to show how you can either accept The Matrix and enjoy a comfortable life (complete with trendy clothes and hair) or fight back and suffer poverty in exchange for the truth. It was also a subtle reference to the poverty Jesus had to endure during his trials.  I watched The Matrix way more times than is healthy for an individual. SSNeoman fucked around with this message at Jan 10, 2013 around 21:05 |
| # ? Jan 10, 2013 20:38 |
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That Crow skin is neat, the other is a lazy color swap of his regular costume though. Is that all the costume pack includes?
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 21:30 |
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 21:32 |
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GUI posted:That Crow skin is neat, the other is a lazy color swap of his regular costume though. Is that all the costume pack includes? They might reveal more. I can't find any other info at the moment.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 21:46 |
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Now, superimpose a picture of the new DMC game over the blonde lady.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 22:02 |
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Thrill Cosby posted:Now, superimpose a picture of the new DMC game over the blonde lady. Please god yes, and then put it directly into the OP at max resolution.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 22:06 |
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What is up with those gloves. Is there any reason to expose your thumb and pointer finger? Or is it just a "hey this looks cool", like putting three loving belts across his chest.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 22:07 |
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notZaar posted:What is up with those gloves. Is there any reason to expose your thumb and pointer finger? Or is it just a "hey this looks cool", like putting three loving belts across his chest. For pulling the trigger/hammer of a gun unimpeded.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 22:10 |
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notZaar posted:What is up with those gloves. Is there any reason to expose your thumb and pointer finger? Or is it just a "hey this looks cool", like putting three loving belts across his chest. It gives you less restrained movement of your fingers, but the actual reason is, yes, "style."
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 22:16 |
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The thumb and index finger need to be free so Dante can easily grab slices of pizza in the event of a Crazy Party.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 23:32 |
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notZaar posted:What is up with those gloves. Is there any reason to expose your thumb and pointer finger? Or is it just a "hey this looks cool", like putting three loving belts across his chest. Could the belts not be for his gun holster and sword holster (?) or whatever? I always figured that was what they were there for. Contrary to videogame graphics, those things aren't meant to actually be floating.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 23:51 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoh...be_gdata_player Ending leaked. Watch at your own risk Caution : Blurry
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:17 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoh...be_gdata_player Goddamn, anyone who was expecting something stupid, idiotic, crass, and retarded like the rest of the game are sure gonna be disappointed at the storm of cliches and lovely things that follow
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:21 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoh...be_gdata_player Urgh. Urgh. Urgh. How fitting, really it should end that way. Crappily. Sums up NT's way of character development really boiling it down to "We've saved the humans, guess I'm evil now". Even the battle looks really terrible - so many mid-battle cutscenes. It lacks any of the impact that the DMC3 final fight had as well. Jesus Christ. Like, in DMC3 Vergil's character (as flat as it was) and relationship to Dante, was at least loving consistant. This is the only way of expressing it really. gently caress YOU. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at Jan 11, 2013 around 01:33 |
| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:26 |
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Dante ends up fighting Vergil? Truly a master twist, Ninja Theory.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:26 |
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I cant think of what the ending is a ripoff of someone help.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:28 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:I cant think of what the ending is a ripoff of someone help. Well, the fight is obviously a ripoff, theme and mechanics wise, from the third game - but really slow, and completely botched.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:31 |
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That's underwhelming. Good fight, brother! *Opens portal and backflips the gently caress outta script*
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:31 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:I cant think of what the ending is a ripoff of someone help. The customer's money.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:31 |
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GUI posted:That's underwhelming. Good fight, brother! *Opens portal and backflips the gently caress outta script* "Good fight bro, see you in the DLC - RRP $10!" What was discussed earlier about the DmC's cutscenes at least being funny in a bad way, I think this is one of the one's that just plain bad. It basically sums up everything wrong with the game from a story perspective and gameplay. This poo poo is indefensible. Goddamn. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at Jan 11, 2013 around 01:43 |
| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:36 |
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They didn't even have the dignity to make it aggressively bad, just aggressively mediocre. Like in a weird way it would have been perfect to cap it off with something ridiculous and laughable, but they couldn't even give us that. Those motherfuckers.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:42 |
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No really there was something else sort of recently that also did we must save everyone so we can be the good rulers who can save them from themselves bit, maybe im thinking of Watchmen
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:43 |
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Even with the rest of the story the way it is I thought they could handle the ending better than that mess.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:47 |
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Mr. Fun posted:Even with the rest of the story the way it is I thought they could handle the ending better than that mess. NT don't seem to handle endings too well. Both HS and Enslaved ended on abrupt cliffhangers IIRC, with very little in the way of resolution. HS even more so as that was meant to be a trilogy. But this really is abrupt.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:51 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoh...be_gdata_player That's a funny clip from the CW's Devil May Cry but seriously, what's the actual ending?
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 01:55 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:No really there was something else sort of recently that also did we must save everyone so we can be the good rulers who can save them from themselves bit, maybe im thinking of Watchmen It kind of seems like Crackdown's ending to me, minus the demons and angels bit. EDIT: Vanderdeath posted:That's a funny clip from the CW's Devil May Cry but seriously, what's the actual ending? Dante: I don't know who I am anymore. Kat: You know exactly who you are, you're Dante, nothing more, nothing less *roll credits* I don't wanna wait, for our LIIIIIVES to be O-VERRRR Mahuum Aqoha fucked around with this message at Jan 11, 2013 around 02:07 |
| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:01 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:NT don't seem to handle endings too well. Both HS and Enslaved ended on abrupt cliffhangers IIRC, with very little in the way of resolution. HS even more so as that was meant to be a trilogy. But this really is abrupt. Well obviously it's done so they can resolve it in the upcoming sequel 
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:02 |
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SSNeoman posted:Well obviously it's done so they can resolve it in the upcoming sequel Hahahaha  "DmC2: Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse" Someone did a youtube doubler video: http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=p...Name=meahwahwah It expresses in visuals, what mere words can't. For those not familiar with DMC3 BTW, that fight is on an easier mode and the guy playing it is a chump. And it is still is a million times better. [e]: Good god, people are actually defending it: A Cretin posted:
Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at Jan 11, 2013 around 02:24 |
| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:07 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoh...be_gdata_player Wow, that sure is some garbage right there.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:24 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoh...be_gdata_player Music is fine, the extra serious tone is not. The player obviously isn't very good but that doesn't matter!
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:29 |
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Wasnt there supposed to be a vergil dinosaur?
Uncle Wemus fucked around with this message at Jan 11, 2013 around 02:49 |
| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:44 |
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Been playing DMC4 today and it is interesting how much better Nero's sword attacks feel than Dante's. For some reason his sword attacks feel super light and unsatisfactory to me.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:45 |
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SurrealityCheck posted:Been playing DMC4 today and it is interesting how much better Nero's sword attacks feel than Dante's. For some reason his sword attacks feel super light and unsatisfactory to me. Nero has a lot of power behind his attacks, especially with exceed. Dante's sword is balanced with the 'power' coming from his gauntlets instead.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:46 |
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Uncle Wemus posted:Wasnt there supposed to be a vergil dinosaur? That was an unconfirmed /v/ rumour. Now known to be 100% wrong. Honestly, I don't see how it could much worse than what the actual ending is. There was also a rumour that Dante force-feeds Mundus his spawn, in the style of Saturn devouring his son. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at Jan 11, 2013 around 02:53 |
| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:47 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:That was an unconfirmed /v/ rumour. Now known to be 100% wrong. Honestly, I don't see how it could much worse than what the actual ending is. I think i might have respected that a bit more than this
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 02:58 |
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Just got done jerkin' off a squirrel and thought I'd open a portal for you guys... http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/ending.13736/ Abandon all hope..
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 03:02 |
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| # ? May 24, 2013 02:46 |
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The game handles a fight against a human sized enemy without lock-on a lot better then I thought it would.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 03:10 |
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