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Videodrome posted:edit: Also, please don't try to use Alex as a caricature of any political party or ideology. The man is not liberal or conservative. He literally believe that anyone in power in the world is controlled by Satan. Yes, that Satan. You have to get him really riled up to admit it, but in the end that is where all his conspiracies end up. It goes right to the top, and at the pinnacle of that Illuminati pyramid is Underwood Deviled Ham guy. See, this is where he fucks up. The Devil is just a middleman, Eddie is the guy controlling everything.
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Bulldog posted:And Fox News is the top viewed news station. Need I say more? People rather have the news hand fed to them no matter how inaccurate or over the top. All you need is a loud mouth (Jones, Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reily, etc) screaming bloody murder and preying on someone's paranoia or ignorance and wham ratings galore. What's worse is that person then spreads the disinformation like a virus that infects people like the plague and now you have a situation like here in the USA where people are ready to kill each other over stupidity. You are giving AJ WAAAY to much credit
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I also love how he he inspires conspiracy theories created by other truther nutcases about his real motives: http://truthernews.wordpress.com/20...man-in-america/ Alex Jones is a Zionist who actually works for the FBI or is secretly employed by the Obama administration in a cunning false flag operation
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etalian posted:So if you got Glenn Beck, Limbaugh and Jones in a room screaming together in unison could you destroy the world? Only if you can get enough people to buy their poo poo.
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The article in the OP is about Alex Jones, but I don't see him in that pic. Just a TSA officer being yelled at by Chaz Bono. Where is Jones hiding?
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Tarq posted:As a conservative, I humbly ask that the word conservative be removed from the thread title as he is not a conservative. He doesn't identify as such and has as much hate for republicans as he does for democrats. He is a right wing conservative nut job but not a Republican. I know the hip thing to do since Republicans are terrible is say you are a conservative or an independent but you don't get to ignore the other nut jobs on conservative spectrum. And yes, he is a conservative by his own admission although he prefers the term "paleoconservative" which means he is still a conservative.
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VikingSkull posted:I think the greatest conspiracy theory is that Bill Hicks faked his own death and created Alex Jones as an alter ego to troll America with. That's the one I'm going with. Is that just an attempted joke that you're attempting to pass off under the guise of a great conspiracy theory.
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Three Olives posted:He is a right wing conservative nut job but not a Republican. I know the hip thing to do since Republicans are terrible is say you are a conservative or an independent but you don't get to ignore the other nut jobs on conservative spectrum. And yes, he is a conservative by his own admission although he prefers the term "paleoconservative" which means he is still a conservative. So by this logic, a "national socialist" would still be a socialist. I learn a lot here.
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Ilustforponydeath posted:So by this logic, a "national socialist" would still be a socialist. No, conservatives break into two groups, paleoconservatives and neoconservatives which bicker back and forth about who is the true conservative but more or less politically can be viewed as a cohesive block who argues over killing babies and them god drat foreigners stealing our jobs and not general ideology.
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^^ EDIT: That is not true in the slightest. This is the last I'm going to mention it as I'm not going to allow myself to get baited (further) into this derail by you.Three Olives posted:He is a right wing conservative nut job but not a Republican. I know the hip thing to do since Republicans are terrible is say you are a conservative or an independent but you don't get to ignore the other nut jobs on conservative spectrum. And yes, he is a conservative by his own admission although he prefers the term "paleoconservative" which means he is still a conservative. Declaring oneself a conservative or republican is probably the least hip thing one could do. I'm pretty sure that is opposite of hip. Ilustforponydeath posted:So by this logic, a "national socialist" would still be a socialist. I learn a lot here. Indeed. Also, China and North Korea are republics whose leaders are elected by the people.
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Ilustforponydeath posted:So by this logic, a "national socialist" would still be a socialist. I learn a lot here. Conservatism isn't an ideology or ideological stream like socialism or liberalism. A conservative can be communist, religious fundamentalist or gun-touting maniac. No one party or political faction gets to claim the word conservatism.
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But isn't it strange to ask for donations on the Infowars site for credit cards/Paypal, which are part of the Zionist financial conspiracy? Or even US dollars since a crash is just around the corner and gold coins should be only acceptable donation for a conspiracy theory website.
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Godspell posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFbJA1MaiIc They're actually good friends in real life.
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Was Jones wearing Diamond Gussets in the airport? This is important.
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Alex Jones is certifiably mental, and I hope the various news outlets fact checking his rant illuminates to some of his crowd just how off his rocker he really is. It might just solidify their position that facts cannot be trusted, but eh. At least it pushes him further into the crazytown category for most normal people. As for the Piers Morgan hate, I'm not sure where this comes from. He seems to be a typical Brit with typical British views on most things (gun control included) which seems to rile people up. It seems that he's had a few feuds, and is chummy with Rupert Murdoch, but I'd think that would only serve to endear him to conservatives.
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You can practically hear those vocal cord nodules forming.
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Oh man, that Piers interview is gold. He exemplifies my experiences trying to have a decent conversation with a wingnut. They go all frothy at the mouth the moment you try to rationalize with them. They hate rationality.
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Civil posted:As for the Piers Morgan hate, I'm not sure where this comes from. He seems to be a typical Brit with typical British views on most things (gun control included) which seems to rile people up. It seems that he's had a few feuds, and is chummy with Rupert Murdoch, but I'd think that would only serve to endear him to conservatives. There is a lot of legitimate reasons to hate Piers which I am sure a Brit goon will detail but this is part why a lot of people can't stand him. Alex Jones is a crazy person, totally unhinged from reality, bringing him on the show could serve no useful purpose, it only happened because Jones wanted another platform on which to be mentally ill and Piers wanted to feel superior to a mentally ill gun nut and they both wanted to yell at each other. This is utter trash on a channel that pretends to be a serious news network and on a program that pretends to be a serious venue discussing a serious issue.
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^^^^^ Pretty much. Just a pure ratings hound. I had heard about Alex Jone's tantrums many times throughout here and there, but never witnessed it itself until this thread. How have I missed this Vocal Liberato? spiralbrain posted:Oh man, that Piers interview is gold. Or in my experience: "I have a 40 year old "DEGREE" in Child Developmental Psychology! My highest achievement in life was being a nighttime university lecturer for old people!! DON'T QUESTION ME ON <topic completely unrelated in any form to said degree>!! *waves degree in my/questioner's face* How DARE you Question me? You misogynist!!!!" - Screehing old harpy woman. God, was a mistake to go there for a recovery from a 12 year catatonic depression. Well, at least it got me out of catatonia, and got me into action, despite the situation being a fuckton 'worse', psychologically. Quite lovely/disturbing/intriguing to see a frothing irrational mind at work, thinking they're the only "rational" person in the room. Then again, meta-cognitive traps are the worst, and the irrational mind is never aware they're in the pit, shouting from the bottom of a pit they didn't dig themselves in with logic in the first place: makes it impossible to use it to help them out of it.
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If you want to really go back, Alex Jones was a host on Z-Rock FM radio in Austin during roughly 1993-94. His segment was extremely popular. It was, if I remember correctly, one of the highest rated shows in the Austin market. The basic formula was the same, but much more reserved than he is now. They fired him at the height of his popularity and ratings, because even they couldn't ignore the direction he was taking. His public access show was gaining popularity and Z-Rock just didn't want to be associated with him anymore. But it wasn't until he went "underground" on shortwave radio that he truly lost his mind. He started his new, and still running, career in a friend's house on some low-dollar AM equipment that barely covered most of the Austin city limits. And it has steadily grown from there. Completely surrounded by like-minded individuals, and without any of that interference from non-crazy supervisors, he has blossomed into America's version of David Icke. And people just eat it up. Some of the best Alex Jones-is-crazy material came from a feud he had with another public access show called, "The Show with No Name." The host of TSwNN loving hated AJ, because of all the politics he was injecting into the public access scene. According to him, AJ was bullying other public access hosts into following his lead or getting the gently caress off the air and stop wasting such a precious resource. But, the one thing I will always respect Alex Jones for is infiltrating and managing to get video footage of the cremation of care ceremony at Bohemian Grove. AJ is a crazy rear end mofo, but people really do burn an effigy of human sacrifice before a 40 foot stone owl statue of Moloch. It's actually true and he got us the video footage to prove it. He's still batshit insane, though. And he appears to be getting worse and worse as time goes on.
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I know this is Gawker, but... http://gawker.com/5974166/?utm_camp...dium=socialflow Gawker posted:Fresh Off Completely Sane Piers Morgan Interview, Alex Jones Says Mayor Bloomberg is Sending Crackheads to Kill Him for Speaking Truth to Mafia Crazy train isn't stopping. Can't stop the REVOLUTION.
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Was watching these political videos about Alex Jones and made my way to this, which made everything wonderful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uj5NZS7g8 Don't call Bill O'Reilly a homo!
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I want a shirt that says BIEBLER SAYS HAND IN YOUR GUNS in the style of the Frankie Says Relax shirt.
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Jones is an interesting character. Paranoid guys hoarding guns and coming up with conspiracies is an American tradition (The Kennedy Assassination, etc). To understand him you must first consider that from Watergate onward there has been an increasing media trend of anti-elitism. In mainstream media the elite simply don't exist; since the end of the Cold War the narrative has been that we live in consumer democracy that will keep on trucking all over the world leading up to Star Trek utopia. Our elected leaders are good and if they are bad the TV will tell us. The power of concentrated wealth doesn't exist. In fringe media the elite still exist and are more powerful than ever, but there is a massive amount of gonzo exaggeration that undermines legitimate criticism. Alex Jones, using the new media landscape of the internet, has more or less just adopted the 'Manufactured Outrage' tactics that mainstream media uses to draw viewers (Your poo poo, those fuckers). But instead of an Average Joe turning on the TV or the radio, Jones attracts people who have seen through mainstream media bullshit and go looking for the 'truth', he gives them a jist of the awful reality (the world is not governed in the interest of the public, but to increase the wealth and power of the people in charge) - and them dumps tons of complete raving insanity. So is it all an act or is he really an insane crybaby? Probably the latter. But ads for free energy machines and gold coins probably don't cover all his expenses. It's quite possible that a number of powerful interests support him in order to spread apathy, confusion, and despair. People who get all their information from CNN, Fox, Rush, etc cannot be motivated to substantially organize and have a very hard time stepping outside the Left/Right Consumer Democracy narrative, where globalization is an inevitable force of nature. As more and more people go online for information they can get loaded with the blithering nonsense of Jones. Paranoid people who cannot create a common narrative are just as docile as people drowned in feel-good stories and promises of an egalitarian gadget utopia.
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One of the joys of living in Austin is being able to turn on AJ midday and hear his fabulist screed and increasingly outrageous claims. Listen for an hour or so, and you will almost certainly hear him insinuate that he has killed more than one man with his bare hands. I guess it's less funny knowing that there are people who believe a word this man says. Those Tangy Tangerine songs really are the best though. Ominous Balls fucked around with this message at Jan 8, 2013 around 18:47 |
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Apple Craft posted:a 40 foot stone owl statue of Moloch. That's pretty badass.
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reflir posted:That's pretty badass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN3GQt0DfSo So badass that David Gergen wants nothing to do with it.
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Apple Craft posted:But, the one thing I will always respect Alex Jones for is infiltrating and managing to get video footage of the cremation of care ceremony at Bohemian Grove. AJ is a crazy rear end mofo, but people really do burn an effigy of human sacrifice before a 40 foot stone owl statue of Moloch. It's actually true and he got us the video footage to prove it. He's still batshit insane, though. And he appears to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Can I get a link to this? It sounds awesome.
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SevenSixTwoX39 posted:Can I get a link to this? It sounds awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahQCEzjkfM
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Apple Craft posted:But, the one thing I will always respect Alex Jones for is infiltrating and managing to get video footage of the cremation of care ceremony at Bohemian Grove. AJ is a crazy rear end mofo, but people really do burn an effigy of human sacrifice before a 40 foot stone owl statue of Moloch. It's actually true and he got us the video footage to prove it. He's still batshit insane, though. And he appears to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. There are 2 perspectives on Bohemian Grove. The more popular online is Alex Jones's, as seen in his masterfully batshit "Dark Secrets". To hear Alex tell it, he risked life and limb to infiltrate a super secret satanic ritual straight out of Temple of Doom where the leaders of the world gather to worship Satan and plot to surprise sex YOUR CHILDREN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVtEvplXMLs Another perspective comes from Jon Ronson, the British journalist who accompanied Alex Jones to Bohemian Grove. While Jones was skulking in the bushes getting shaky handicam video and pissing his pants, Jon basically walked in the front door, interviewed attendees, and discovered that is was basically a frat party for rich assholes and celebrities. The whole thing is no more sinister than Mardi Gras...or as Richard Nixon described it, "the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDVbyRJmvds However, what entertained Jon Ronson more than Bohemian Grove was Alex Jones himself. The highlight of the video is Alex practicing walking and talking like a sane person so that he can fit in if he gets caught.
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You guys should move to the UK, this is our Alex Jones.
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Fozaldo posted:You guys should move to the UK, this is our Alex Jones. Not sure who that is, but David Icke is your Alex Jones.
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Fozaldo posted:You guys should move to the UK, this is our Alex Jones. But you guys have given up your guns! You have crazy people knifing old ladies! In America we have guns but according to Alex Jones alot of the violence is from 'gang-bangers' (read: Gun rights are for whites only). He plays the audience just as well as Rush and others. But instead of advancing the interests of elite by drumming up Republican votes he's advancing the interests of the elite by discouraging voting and rational discourse.
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Crawley Heat posted:"Clockwork elves are running the world" quote:BUILD THE HADRON COLLIDER I could listen to this guy for hours 
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Videodrome posted:There are 2 perspectives on Bohemian Grove. The more popular online is Alex Jones's, as seen in his masterfully batshit "Dark Secrets". To hear Alex tell it, he risked life and limb to infiltrate a super secret satanic ritual straight out of Temple of Doom where the leaders of the world gather to worship Satan and plot to surprise sex YOUR CHILDREN! Wasn't that obvious from the get g--oh, yeah, I forget this is somethingawful, and not the general public that just eats this satanic conspiracy poo poo up. Just small, perhaps legitimate suspicion (But I've no idea of Jones' entire history, or paranic inception), which then compounds and snowballs, until you get the huge snowman that is Alex Jones today: Any with that momentum, any modicum of anything that looks like a 'Bavarian Old World Illuminatus' Ritual - confirms every small suspicion, that by itself, wouldn't pass any thresh hold for 'proof', but all together, the edgy 'evidence' constitutes thus. In an analogy, kind of like how 1 good Caravaggio painting is worth more than 20 or so crappy paintings done by a new studio apprentice that can't even capture the basics of form - and Alex is taking the paintings, in each of those twenty, to have some sort of hidden Satanic verses on back of the frame. If hung upside down, back-to-front, and read in a mirror. There's going to be shitloads (I guess) of old clubs and societies that might have some sort of vestigial ritual that the members keep around for the sake of tradition and aesthetics that differs them from the other Rich White rear end in a top hat's Club down the road in New Haven, or someshit. Alex Jones is taking one of them, and just snowballing it even further, to justify his existence as an important non-person, and the fact that if he were to realize that his whole life is a farce, his mind would perhaps metaphorically (If not outright literally) collapse in on itself when he realises what a loving void of stupid his life has been. It's like trying to convince the Pope that his whole life was a lie.
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It seems ironic that he describes tragedies as attempts by the government to sew the seeds for control in ways that resemble the rise of Nazism. He's the one calling for revolution with fanatical support garnered from his ability to bullshit to the masses. Not saying Alex is Hitler, but if I had to pick one, it wouldn't be Obama.
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Ominous Balls posted:One of the joys of living in Austin is being able to turn on AJ midday and hear his fabulist screed and increasingly outrageous claims. Listening to batshit conservative radio is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. I can almost always find some station with a 45 year old child screaming about how Obama is a nazi socialist communist anti-christ muslim who wants to take your guns and shoot you with them. It makes long drives more bearable than whatever top 10 songs all the pop stations keep repeating.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Not saying Alex is Hitler, but if I had to pick one, it wouldn't be Obama. If Alex Jones gets support from the Russians (and judging by his RT connections and Syria narrative he does), I think some more deluded Russian Nationalists think this guy is going to be the Lenin to their Germany.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:It seems ironic that he describes tragedies as attempts by the government to sew the seeds for control in ways that resemble the rise of Nazism. He's the one calling for revolution with fanatical support garnered from his ability to bullshit to the masses. The thing is, it's not clear what Alex Jones wants to happen after the oppressed sheeple open their eyes and rise up against our evil overlords. This is why you can't ascribe a particular ideology to him. He was just as anti-Bush as he is anti-Obama. He literally condemns ALL world leaders and governments. Does this make him an anarchist? But he doesn't really talk about anything post-uprising, so I have no idea if he expects an utopian anarchy, or his own personal dictatorship, or just a biblical Armageddon followed by the second coming and god's rule on Earth.
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Videodrome posted:The thing is, it's not clear what Alex Jones wants to happen after the oppressed sheeple open their eyes and rise up against our evil overlords. This is why you can't ascribe a particular ideology to him. He was just as anti-Bush as he is anti-Obama. He literally condemns ALL world leaders and governments. Does this make him an anarchist? But he doesn't really talk about anything post-uprising, so I have no idea if he expects an utopian anarchy, or his own personal dictatorship, or just a biblical Armageddon followed by the second coming and god's rule on Earth. Maybe he's just a very loud crazy that doesn't stop screaming for long enough to realize why everything he does besides eat, breathe, and sleep is a pretty awful idea.
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