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Ahh! That sounds right since I think he said something about cleaning up for home. It sounds horrifying but I have no idea what answer wouldn't be. God bless penicillin.
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limeincoke posted:
The music changed and everything for that but who can blame her, it's hard not to fall in love with Gannicus. This season is awesome so far, the only complaint I have is that it needs more Lugo dialogue scenes.
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That choke slam to axe slice was the highlight kill for me, not digging Brad Caesar though. Also this episode gave me the impression that they're going to start blurring the line between the lovely stuff each side does to the point where they're not that much different. Spartacus killing that one dude was weak and I like his wife.
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STAC Goat posted:Ahh! That sounds right since I think he said something about cleaning up for home. It sounds horrifying but I have no idea what answer wouldn't be. God bless penicillin. Goddamn that is creepy...I thought it was some weird bdsm thing on the first watch through, but yeah the genital warts thing makes sense given what he said.
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Robert Analog posted:That choke slam to axe slice was the highlight kill for me, not digging Brad Caesar though. Also this episode gave me the impression that they're going to start blurring the line between the lovely stuff each side does to the point where they're not that much different. Spartacus killing that one dude was weak and I like his wife. I actually came away with the opposite impression--the fall of the city seemed fairly sanitized to me. I am not familiar with the history of the war in granular enough detail to know if that city actually fell as described, but I have a strong inkling that if it did, literally everyone got raped.
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Everyone keeps saying the actor that plays Caesar reminds them of Brad Pitt but I think the resemblance is closer to the guy that played Vaughn in Community. Which makes it really hard to take him seriously because I expected him to speak like a surferbro and break into song with 'Tiberius you're a B'.
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I assume the aedile's wife is going to be the one in command since Spartacus put a spear through his mouth? Pretty sure with some trimming and some TV magic (well makeup, not CGI), the actor playing Caesar could look pretty close to the busts they have of him, you know, give a take 20 years or so. The Crassus they have looks close enough to me that I'm pretty sure they were somewhat conscious about getting someone to look like the busts we all know (or can google at a moment's notice). A bit more buff than I was expecting, but then again this is Spartacus we're talking about. I dunno if it's counter-ironic, but Caesar was an ironic nickname his peers gave him because Caesar himself wasn't that hairy, and lo-and-behold, here he is sporting a beard and Crassus won't let him shave it, which was something.
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STAC Goat posted:Ahh! That sounds right since I think he said something about cleaning up for home. It sounds horrifying but I have no idea what answer wouldn't be. God bless penicillin. Would that make sense? Crassus' wife got upset with her husband going to war since it meant he could be gone for months or years. Caesar just signed on to go with him, so why would he 'clean up' for home with that sort of timeline ahead of him too? I think the dude just likes a little cbt.
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Tiberius referred to his pleasures. Pretty sure it'll be some sexual thing.
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Sober posted:I assume the aedile's wife is going to be the one in command since Spartacus put a spear through his mouth? In command of what?
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Wandle Cax posted:In command of what? The Rythym Nation
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Sober posted:I dunno if it's counter-ironic, but Caesar was an ironic nickname his peers gave him because Caesar himself wasn't that hairy, and lo-and-behold, here he is sporting a beard and Crassus won't let him shave it, which was something. It wasn't a nickname, it's his father's name. It was a moniker given to one of his ancestors though, but by the time ol' Gaius came along it was official.
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The new season is pretty impressive in terms of taking the scale of things to the next level but some compelling aspects of what made the original so compelling are lost. Instead of focusing on the characters there's a great focus on massive set piece battles and the feeling that individuals players don't matter as much since everything is on a much bigger scale now. For example characters such as Crixus who were pretty interesting in the first season/Gods the Area sort of feel like afterthoughts in the overall plot since they no longer have a interesting plot arc to drive character development in the season or a chance to create conflicts. Even though season 2 was certainly bigger scale it was still blended in much better than the new season since the band of characters was pretty compact and you still had lots of interesting ludus-like scheming the background for things such as Ashur trying to climb the last rung of the ladder.
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It's probably just me but I think it would be cool if the pronounced Caesar correctly for the time. Every since New Vegas I want them to say 'Kaiser' instead, small things like that would be awesome for immersion. Then again if Rome didn't do it, Spartacus certainly won't. Also I think it's about time they have the Spartacus crew slaughtering innocent people. They were the other side of the Roman coin and just as vicious, sadly I just think it's just the show runners setting the audience up for the inevitable. Making the crucifixion road seem less gut wrenching when it happens.
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etalian posted:The new season is pretty impressive in terms of taking the scale of things to the next level but some compelling aspects of what made the original so compelling are lost. That's always the way for the first couple of episodes of the season though, the focus on setting up the conflicts and introducing the new characters, then three or four episodes in they crank it up and we get all the cool character work. Seriously, don't worry about Crixus as there's some awesome stuff that's going to happen surrounding him.
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etalian posted:Instead of focusing on the characters there's a great focus on massive set piece battles and the feeling that individuals players don't matter as much since everything is on a much bigger scale now. I think this also a side effect of DeKnight cramming everything into one final season. What's being covered this season I had originally imagined over at least 2 seasons from what I read of the history, so... there you go.
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SneakySneaks posted:It's probably just me but I think it would be cool if the pronounced Caesar correctly for the time. Every since New Vegas I want them to say 'Kaiser' instead, small things like that would be awesome for immersion. Then again if Rome didn't do it, Spartacus certainly won't. It worked in New Vegas because it was just a dude named Caesar and a handful of Roman vocabulary and terminology, and any slip-ups or inconsistincies could be waved off because they were post-apocalyptic survivors who collectively know gently caress-all about ancient Latin. You end up having to be a lot more anal retentive to make it work in an actual Roman setting, and it's not easy on the audience.
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This was a cool episode, just like the last one.  This season is shaping up to be spectacular
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etalian posted:
I enjoyed season two, but not as much as the first (or the prequel), and I know this ain't cool, but I do kinda have to disagree a little. I loved the upstairs/downstairs approach in B&S and GotA, but I also felt it was a needed evil to expand the series to a larger scope, since it becomes more about the Third Servile War. I didn't really feel like the second season handled that all that well--it brought it villains like Egyptor (who was Ankherin for a fight), but they weren't all that well developed, so when Onomaeus went down to a dude I didn't much care about, it kind of felt forced. This season, in contrast, is widening the vision in a good way. Everyone's together, they're doing some pretty cool poo poo, and Crassus is shaping up to be an antagonist in the Batiatus vein--he's someone you like enough to at least root for a little. (Caesar, though, I'm gonna withhold judgement on. I didn't like him much in this episode, but maybe he'll do something cool later on.) All that being said, I'm pretty sure there is some loving awesome poo poo that's gonna go down in this season. Pretty massive historical spoilers (seriously don't read this): I know Crixus dies, and I know that Spartacus has enslaved Romans fight to the death in his memory, and I absolutely cannot wait to see how that plays out. Also I want to see Crucifixion Alley. Mostly, though, I want to know what they do with the ending. In the old movie, Spartacus ends up nailed, but--according to Wikipedia, at least--Spartacus' body was never found. I really hope they pull off something awesome with that ambiguity.
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Awesome season so far! I loved how the writers hosed with your head by having you get to know a few of the innocents who die as a result of Spartacus' taking of the city. Blurring the lines between good guy and bad guy. I'm guessing this is going to get dark fast.
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I really like Brad Caesar, it's a nice change from the typical depections of him later in life. For anyone interested in the history side of things and the wider political picture at the time, there's an awesome podcast called Hardcore History which has an extended six part series called "The Death Throes of the Republic", and a couple of the episodes go into a lot of detail about Caesar and his contemporaries, what the Roman world looked like when they entered it and how they affected it. It only touches on the third servile war in passing, there's maybe a few minutes devoted to it, but the context it gives you for a series like Spartacus is awesome http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/hharchive for anyone interested
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But at least for a majority of the old characters there's no compelling arc to keep them interesting since many of the leads such as Crixus reuniting with Naevia got wrapped in Season 2. It's why DeKnight decided to kill off Oenomaus in the 2nd season.
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etalian posted:It's why DeKnight decided to kill off Oenomaus in the 2nd season. Oenomaus dies around that time historically as well. So it made sense to wrap it there.
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Fatkraken posted:I really like Brad Caesar, it's a nice change from the typical depections of him later in life. Holy poo poo thank you for this. Looks like for the next couple of weeks I will have something fun to listen to at work and on the train.
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bobkatt013 posted:Holy poo poo thank you for this. Looks like for the next couple of weeks I will have something fun to listen to at work and on the train. It looks like its behind a paywall now, but Hardcore History also did a good three part series on the Punic Wars (the wars against Carthage). It's well before the time of Spartacus, but its interesting nonetheless.
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Fatkraken posted:I really like Brad Caesar, it's a nice change from the typical depections of him later in life. Yeah, I'd rather watch this new approach with Caesar, plus we already have one Roman antagonist who's cold-blooded, super competent and pragmatic in Crassus, so the traditional depiction of Caesar would have been too similar to that imo. savinhill fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Feb 2, 2013 |
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savinhill posted:Yeah, I'd rather watch this new approach with Caesar, plus we already have one Roman antagonist who's cold-blooded, super competent and pragmatic in Crassus, so the traditional depiction of Caesar would have been too similar to that imo. I like to think that this is where Caesar picks up the ability for dignified diplomacy and politics. It's well established that he's a competent warrior and a brilliant strategist, but he Crassus can be the one that mentors the other half to make him a Roman power house.
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I'm just bummed we won't get to see the "Alea iacta est" version of Caesar in this show.
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Gonz posted:I'm just bummed we won't get to see the "Alea iacta est" version of Caesar in this show. We might if we get the spinoff. Man a Gaul War in the style of Spartacus would be amazing.
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bobkatt013 posted:We might if we get the spinoff. Man a Gaul War in the style of Spartacus would be amazing. I'd watch the everloving poo poo out of that show. Then i'd go back and watch it again.
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savinhill posted:Yeah, I'd rather watch this new approach with Caesar, plus we already have one Roman antagonist who's cold-blooded, super competent and pragmatic in Crassus, so the traditional depiction of Caesar would have been too similar to that imo. Agreed, it's a nice change from the usual Old, Wise Politician that he's normally portrayed as. There's already been plenty of those on this show, including Crassus, so it's nice to have almost a counterpart to Spartacus on the Roman side, even if he's basically playing Brad Pitt as Achilles from that one movie. Also Crassus's wife looks so much like Ilithyia, which just reminds me that Viva Bianca isn't on the show anymore and then I get sad 
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That's the only thing I'm missing so far is those awesome scheming women. I had so much invested in Ilythia and Lucretia and so far no one has stepped up to fill those shoes. Crassus' slave/lover seems cool in a genuine way and I liked how Crassus treated her like a person not just property, further blurring the line on each side.
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So Caesar's basically Thor? Awesome. That goes for the rest of the episode. There really is nothing else on TV that floods your brain with as many gently caress yeah moments. When people talk about going to see something to turn off their minds just to watch spectacle, I'm going to point to this show and laugh at them. There's a lot of brains (muddying up the main protaganist the way this episode did is pretty much impossible in mainstream action cinema these days) in the kickass the show regularly doles out.
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Marcus Licinius Crassus & Gaius Julius Caesar: Best Friends Forever Whatcha gonna do when Legionmania runs wild on YOU, brother?
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Gonz posted:Marcus Licinius Crassus & Gaius Julius Caesar: Best Friends Forever I heard that Caesar gave Crassus a gold metal with BFF on it.
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Maybe I missed it but was there an explanation as to why Crassus didn't want Caesar to cut his hair and shave his beard in a more "Roman" style?
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muscles like this? posted:Maybe I missed it but was there an explanation as to why Crassus didn't want Caesar to cut his hair and shave his beard in a more "Roman" style? I think its sort of an insult towards him. That they do not think of him as a proper Roman due to his time with the pirates and being out of Rome.
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limeincoke posted:Starz should have done a better job of promoting the fact that they cast Brad Pitt as Caesar. I assumed he was shaving his balls  Amazing start so far. Caesar looks promising (and he's ridiculously pretty )
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Dammit, now all I can see is Crassus using his C.R.A.S.S.U.S. System to get chicks.Mans posted:I assumed he was shaving his balls That is definitely not the right way to shave one's balls. 
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