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angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


I grew up around guns. I was an avid deer hunter as a teenager, then once I moved out to college I didn't really keep up with guns and hunting. After last year's shootings, as well as buying my first home, I realized I felt like no one is safe anywhere. Not trying to start a debate, but this was what sparked my re-interest in firearms.

I went shooting with family over the holidays, and spent some time handling and firing small-caliber revolvers, a Ruger LC9CT, Springfield XDM, Ruger P90, and a S&W M&P40. I set my budget at $400 (pre-tax) for a small 9mm handgun. I visited several locals stores, and explored options from Baretta, Kel-Tec, Taurus, and Ruger. After seeing Hickock45's videos on the SR9c, I jumped on a local used one for $375.

Typical Ruger packaging:


Extra 10rd magazine with extended butt plate on both, and included loading tool.


Disassembled for cleaning (more on this later)



After looking all over town for a reasonably priced box of 9mm, I got a 100-round pack of white box Winchester from Wal-mart and headed to the range on Saturday. In total, I put 115 rounds through it and had 3 failures. Two fail to eject, one fail to load (double-loaded). All three failures happened within the first four magazines. Failures couldn't be reproduced on further attempts, even with some slightly-moist rounds. This was annoying, but I figured the gun just needed a good cleaning anyway.

The gun itself is well-designed IMO. I am a sucker for external safeties to make it a little more accessible to novice shooters (my wife). The SR9c has an ambidextrous thumb safety, mag disconnect safety, and a giant "LOADED WHEN UP" indicator ramp on top of the chamber.



I've mentioned the failures at the range. What I haven't mentioned is what a blast this gun is to shoot. The trigger is wonderfully light, and the ergonomics are perfect (for my medium-sized hands) for quick-fire magazine dumps as well as long days at the range. It handles recoil pretty well for a light gun as well. It's very accurate for a short-barrel pistol as well. I had no trouble placing 6-7" groups at 15 yards...keep in mind this is the first time I've shot the gun.

I'll try to update this thread sometime on Sunday, as I hope to put another 100+ rounds through it after tonight's cleaning. There was a little excess grease in the slide and underneath the striker. I'm wondering if it gelled up a little on Saturday in the cold. All-in-all, I'm very pleased and look forward to shooting more with this gun.

Bonus range shot:




Here are some other reviews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT1q1C_PnIY

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492724


Now if I can get this little .25 to shoot..

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Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011



I request more pictures of hte gun and it's CHAMBER INDICATOR.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


Herr Tog posted:

I request more pictures of hte gun and it's CHAMBER INDICATOR.

I apparently never got this shot close-up on Saturday. All out of 9mm here at home so can't take any tonight. Here is a 100% crop of one on Saturday, where you can see the elevated ramp toward the back of the chamber.


Here is a better shot of the same indicator, on my mom's LC9 that we shot a couple weeks ago:

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011



Thanks~! That is as annoying as other guns I have seen. Does it gently caress up your sight picture?

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


Herr Tog posted:

Thanks~! That is as annoying as other guns I have seen. Does it gently caress up your sight picture?

Not at all. Can't see it at all when looking down from behind.

SevenSixTwoX39
Jun 28, 2009

Capitalism has triumphed all over the world, but this triumph is only the prelude to the triumph of labour over capital.

I picture it as this:

right arm
Oct 29, 2011



I shot a p90, it is the worst pistol

I also shot a sr40c

it was better than a m&p40c

that's my review

GamingHyena
Jul 25, 2003

Devil's Advocate

I bought a SR9c as my first handgun and it is definitely an underrated pistol. It has a light, crisp trigger and was very ergonomical, although it felt more natural using the 17 round mag as opposed to the shorter 10. It never seemed to be very accurate at longer ranges (or at least I was never very accurate with it), but it was always fun to shoot. I did find that it seemed to be pretty finicky when it came to reliability (FTFs were not an uncommon occurrence even with different mags and hundreds of rounds through it), which always worried me for something billed as a carry gun.

I ended up selling it to help finance a G17, but as a range gun it was a lot of fun.

Herr Tog posted:

Thanks~! That is as annoying as other guns I have seen. Does it gently caress up your sight picture?

The rear sight is slightly elevated above the chamber indicator so it doesn't mess with the sight picture.

SevenSixTwoX39
Jun 28, 2009

Capitalism has triumphed all over the world, but this triumph is only the prelude to the triumph of labour over capital.

To be fair, almost anything is better than an M&P compact in .40 caliber.

right arm
Oct 29, 2011



SevenSixTwoX39 posted:

To be fair, almost anything is better than an M&P compact in .40 caliber.

the m&p trigger is just so bad, I didn't have issues with the recoil in either of them

SevenSixTwoX39
Jun 28, 2009

Capitalism has triumphed all over the world, but this triumph is only the prelude to the triumph of labour over capital.

I did some trigger work on an old guy's M&P in .40 which was a subcompact model and I found the recoil to be a bit much. Whoever sold the guy the gun was an rear end in a top hat because he seemed way too frail to effectively fire a gun like that. He could barely rack the slide back. I just don't like the M&P especially in .40 because it's basically a bad Glock that is chambered in a bad 9mm Luger. And I say that having worked at S&W.

I'll say though that I've liked the Ruger semi-autos I've shot, including the SR9.

stangman
Mar 13, 2003



I was really impressed with the sr9c. The trigger was excellent for what it is, and it's not too big for a double stack. I went with a kel-tec pf-9 for my main carry at the moment, but the trigger on the on the sr9c is closer to a good glock or xd, while the pf-9 is closer to a long albeit relatively light DA revolver. Everything's a drat trade-off.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

SevenSixTwoX39 posted:

I did some trigger work on an old guy's M&P in .40 which was a subcompact model and I found the recoil to be a bit much. Whoever sold the guy the gun was an rear end in a top hat because he seemed way too frail to effectively fire a gun like that. He could barely rack the slide back. I just don't like the M&P especially in .40 because it's basically a bad Glock that is chambered in a bad 9mm Luger. And I say that having worked at S&W.

Difficulty racking the slide is what causes me to recommend revolvers so often to people looking for a very small gun. I find any woman can pull the trigger on a J-Frame or LCR, but many can't actually rack the slide on one of these little pocket autos.



Nice review angryhampster, Ruger isn't known for making the most charismatic of guns, but I have to say I am continually impressed by their recent offerings.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

I'm glad to hear they sorted out the trigger on those. The first sr9's I tried had horrible triggers.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010

Hey there partner!

angryhampster posted:

...mom's LC9 that we shot a couple weeks ago:


Nice review, thanks for putting it up. Does your mother carry the LC9?

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


Butch Cassidy posted:

Nice review, thanks for putting it up. Does your mother carry the LC9?

Not yet. She just got it for her anniversary on 12/27 and doesn't have her permit yet.

Plan is to get a small lockbox that fits into the console of her car.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007




angryhampster posted:

Plan is to get a small lockbox that fits into the console of her car.
Why not a holster?

vulgarghost
Oct 18, 2002

mr youse neednt be so spry

I got the regular sized SR9 and with the Ghost Rocket 3.5lb disconnector (or whatever it's called) the trigger is great, a little smoother and less creep than stock. Otherwise it has nice light recoil, and seemed to shoot accurately under 15 yards which is the most I've really tested it at.

Fits my hand a lot better than the chunkier Glocks do too and has a 1911 style grip angle.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


Grabbed a hundred rounds of various brand cheap 115gr to shoot this weekend. Hopefully I can find some daylight to make it out there..gonna be cold again though.

Both of the wal-mart supercenters in town were sold out of 9mm, and Scheel's was all out of cheap stuff. A local hardware store had LOTS of 9mm of all sorts. Quite surprised and pleased.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010

Hey there partner!

Edit: This is not the CCW thread

Angryhampster, did you get a chance to run the SR9 some more?

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


Butch Cassidy posted:

Edit: This is not the CCW thread

Angryhampster, did you get a chance to run the SR9 some more?

Resurrecting this because no, I've been lazy the last few weeks. Started a new job, had a death in the family, and have generally been quite busy. I've only got 100rds of 9mm and can't find more ANYWHERE in town. Went to three different stores today and they had none. Going to try to make it back out tomorrow.

I have been practicing dry-firing it quite a bit and have gotten used to the trigger pull and grip. Looking forward to spending more time at the range.

Any other SR9c owners around these parts?

Airbone Operation
Dec 22, 2007
Tosser

I have an SR9 that I bought in early 2009. It shoots well enough to keep around. The trigger isn't a Glock but it isn't the end of the world. I have a crossbreed holster for it but I don't carry it much any more because I find little tiny pocket guns to be much more convenient to carry.

Totally TWISTED
Sep 13, 2005

Also, angels.




Butch Cassidy posted:

Edit: This is not the CCW thread
He did mention in the OP about buying a pistol for defense.

Which is why I'll ask this question, have you purchases any hollow-point rounds yet to determine what brand runs reliably through your new gun? The cheap 115gr FMJ stuff is fine for the range but it's not ideal for self-defense.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


Totally TWISTED posted:

He did mention in the OP about buying a pistol for defense.

Which is why I'll ask this question, have you purchases any hollow-point rounds yet to determine what brand runs reliably through your new gun? The cheap 115gr FMJ stuff is fine for the range but it's not ideal for self-defense.

I do have some PMC 115 grain that I haven't shot yet.

Looks like I won't make it to the range today. In-laws in town and not leaving till after dark.

Otto Skorzeny
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip


Airbone Operation posted:

The trigger isn't a Glock but it isn't the end of the world.


Glock triggers are terrible

Otto Skorzeny fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2013 around 16:49

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


If an M&P trigger is terrible a Glock trigger is about as equally terrible.

Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


Otto Skorzeny posted:

Glock triggers are terrible
What? You tryin' to start a fight, boy?

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010

Hey there partner!

Otto Skorzeny posted:

Glock triggers are terrible

Someone has never fired a P9R in DA.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



I don't begrudge people their choice in guns, and Ruger by and wide has gotten better at the whole "20 SAFETIES ON EVERYTHING" approach, but I'll be damned if the external safeties on the SR9 and LC9 aren't just completely pants-on-head retarded.


It is good to hear their triggers improved from the early models though.

SevenSixTwoX39
Jun 28, 2009

Capitalism has triumphed all over the world, but this triumph is only the prelude to the triumph of labour over capital.

I'm not too offended by redundant safeties if I can disable them. Especially magazine disconnect safeties and those godawful S&W internal safety locks.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005


Back to the range today! Fired 100 rounds of mixed JHP and FMJ from PMC and Federal..both 115gr. Zero misfires/misfeeds. I was very impressed with the way the gun operated today..the cleaning definitely helped. My groupings are getting tighter thought I am definitely still a novice. Was getting 6-8" groupings at 10-15 yards.

Pretty pleased so far!

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n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.

Butch Cassidy posted:

Someone has never fired a P9R in DA.

I have. It's "heavy DA in a DA/SA gun", but not the worst thing in a world. Now, the DA on older Ruger pistols however....

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