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seiferguy posted:Steve Ballmer is worth $15.7 billion. I think he'll be the one coughing up the money for this. Considering the Nordstrom family is also involved in the ownership group alongside a number of venture capital/early tech boom sort of people it's safe to assume the Seattle group can outspend Sacramento handily. The real question is if this is truly a purchase of the heart (like it's been advertised as) or if it's intended to rapidly become profitable. Hansen has openly stated he's not interested in setting up the group or managing the acquisition of an NHL team, so I actually believe him when he says he's just a local basketball dork who made good and wants to both be a hometown hero for bringing back the Sonics and also achieve a longstanding goal of owning a team.
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Bennett, Stern and the Maloofs have been mentioned but I feel like adding 'gently caress Schultz' is necessary.
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1. I dont understand why purchase of the heart and profitable are mutually exclusive. 2. Even if there is a difference between those 2 things, I dont see how there would be any tangible difference in consumer experience of the product.
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BRB MAKIN BACON posted:1. I dont understand why purchase of the heart and profitable are mutually exclusive. Counterpoint: the Maloof family ownership group.
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BRB MAKIN BACON posted:1. I dont understand why purchase of the heart and profitable are mutually exclusive. In this case I don't think they are at all, since the new sonics are gonna sell out forever because people will be afraid they'll leave again otherwise.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Counterpoint: the Maloof family ownership group. What? How is that a counterpoint? Basketball in Seattle is going to do well because people here like basketball, but we arent going to sell out forever. If the team sucks (or worse gets stuck on the mediocrity treadmill) attendance will waver. However these scenarios dont matter because the team will be profitable and we have ballin rear end billionaires locking this poo poo down. Not to mention the huge city/urban planning thats going on in Seattle right now. Amazon itself is basically making its own neighborhood and South Seattle near the stadiums is getting redeveloped as well. If the new sonics stadium is also located downtown there's going to be huge gentrification of the surrounding areas. Seattle has a juge ntro population and a bunch of rich folks, Sonics will be fine. loving so stoked right now. Is contraction of teams ever going to happen? BRB MAKIN BACON fucked around with this message at Jan 9, 2013 around 23:46 |
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BRB MAKIN BACON posted:What? How is that a counterpoint? My joke was that the Maloofs professed to both love basketball and wanted to make a profit on the Kings, but ended up using the team to secure cheap credit for their family empire which ended up being patterned like a low-rent Trump enterprises with shades of Real Housewives of Orange County. Consider: http://www.zingvodka.com/ Now the Kings offer a substantially different customer experience than the playoff contenders they were in the early 00s.
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Where were Steve Ballmer and Co. 8 years ago?
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Livestream of Kevin Johnson's press conference here: http://tunein.com/radio/CBS-Sports-1140-s33038/ He's viewing it as the Kings are now officially for sale, not that they are leaving for Seattle. Probably just his spin WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at Jan 9, 2013 around 23:56 |
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Blinkman987 posted:Where were Steve Ballmer and Co. 8 years ago? I'm guessing you don't really know the circumstances of the Sonics sale but suffice it to say: 1. Howard Schultz is a loving coward who tried to treat professional athletes like his baristas and bailed on the team after he alienated the fanbase. 2. Clay Bennett had David Stern's blessing to come in and move the Sonics to OKC. We were honestly and truly jobbed, and there simply was not a window for an alternative ownership group or arena plan to come together. Stern made sure of that. Now that he's retiring, he wants to cement his legacy and now it's time for all of us to forget how he literally brokered our team away in a backroom deal.
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I think this is a great move. CA doesn't need 4 NBA teams. I would have moved the Clippers though. 
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KJ said that any new ownership group would have a local presence, but a big chunk of money could come from outside the area. I wonder if he's hinting that guy from the Philippines is in play. It sounds like KJ was caught a bit off-guard with this but he's been in contact with potential buyers so he's not completely flat footed
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Carver Crisis posted:I think this is a great move. CA doesn't need 4 NBA teams. I would have moved the Clippers though. Las Vegas Clippers sounds good to me
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quote:David Aldridge on NBATV: "I can tell you they are not going to sell the team around Burkle, and I'm not guessing on that one. I've got people pretty close that have told me that..." "If there are other people with that kind of money in the Sacramento area, that will pledge to keep them there they should step forward because it's getting late...." "Once that (March 1st deadline) is set in place, I don't see right now, anything that would stop that team from moving once they apply for relocation...I'm fairly certain the other owners would quickly approve that and the BOG would soon approve it in time for them to move by next season" Well crap
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tallkidwithglasses posted:I'm guessing you don't really know the circumstances of the Sonics sale but suffice it to say: No, I didn't know. That's pretty loving bizarre.
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Carver Crisis posted:I think this is a great move. CA doesn't need 4 NBA teams. I would have moved the Clippers though. I want them back in San Diego
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SteelAngel2000 posted:I want them back in San Diego Ralph Lawler commented on San Diego for the last pre-season game of this year "We'll be playing in Sports Arena, which I don't believe has been swept out since the Clippers last played there in '84."
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Blinkman987 posted:No, I didn't know. That's pretty loving bizarre. Someone else may know this better but according to a friend that worked there at the time instead of giving out christmas bonuses as was custom, in his last year owning the team Schultz gave out Starbucks gift cards. When he went to check the value it was $5.
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Blinkman987 posted:Ralph Lawler commented on San Diego for the last pre-season game of this year "We'll be playing in Sports Arena, which I don't believe has been swept out since the Clippers last played there in '84." Unfortunate, but pretty accurate 
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Hey WhyteRyce, how you holdin' up buddy? 
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quote:Aaron Bruski @aaronbruski The new news is that the offer from Hansen/Ballmer is only around $350 with the extra absorbing those loans (which would have to happen). A local buyer would get a restructuring of the Sac City loan, and I'm almost certain that if a major player actually steps up to keep the team in Sacramento that the NBA loan can be restructured. Also, this is absolutely a move on the Maloofs part to start a bidding war.
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Don't worry WhyteRyce, you can always become a Lakers fan 
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escape artist posted:Hey WhyteRyce, how you holdin' up buddy? Hold me Not great but the team has been so bad and this poo poo has been going on long enough that I'm kind of numb to it anyway. Crap, I'd probably still follow the team since the Maloofs aren't involved at all but they wouldn't even be the Kings anymore so I don't know how I'd feel about it
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Camper Down posted:The new news is that the offer from Hansen/Ballmer is only around $350 with the extra absorbing those loans (which would have to happen). A local buyer would get a restructuring of the Sac City loan, and I'm almost certain that if a major player actually steps up to keep the team in Sacramento that the NBA loan can be restructured. quote:stevelarge_cbs13 @largesteven WE WANT MORE MONEY GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE poo poo, it's bizarre that at the end of things, it's the Maloofs greed that might save Sacramento
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SteelAngel2000 posted:I want them back in San Diego
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WhyteRyce posted:
They have to get every cent they can so that they can promote their Red Velvet iPhone covers (skateboards).
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Don't worry WhyteRyce, you can always become a Lakers fan Don't listen! La la la
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Ya, Whyte I got a bunch of Rockets jersey I'll mail you. Don't become a Laker fan.
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Seriously, though, what should we displaced fans do? Just watch without a favorite team? That might actually be a relief.
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Pro sports in this country are so dumb sometimes.
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Idiot Kicker posted:Seriously, though, what should we displaced fans do? Just watch without a favorite team? That might actually be a relief.
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That $219M number has to be wrong. Has to be. Why would the league let the Maloofs borrow $150M? Either that or the Maloofs monkeyed around with the Kings and Palms books and hope no one would notice, but even they can't be that dumb.
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Idiot Kicker posted:Seriously, though, what should we displaced fans do? Just watch without a favorite team? That might actually be a relief. The answer, like all NBA quandaries, is to become a Toronto Raptors fan ironically.
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Idiot Kicker posted:Seriously, though, what should we displaced fans do? Just watch without a favorite team? That might actually be a relief. There's not really a right answer here. If you can throw yourself into another team or watch without a set rooting interest then awesome, but it's hard to say until it actually happens.
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Blinkman987 posted:Ralph Lawler commented on San Diego for the last pre-season game of this year "We'll be playing in Sports Arena, which I don't believe has been swept out since the Clippers last played there in '84." What's really funny is they actually moved from San Diego to an arena much more run down, that the Lakers thought was not appropriate for basketball like a decade earlier (and instead of mopping up water spots it wasn't uncommon for the ball boys to have to mop up pigeon poo poo). And they never really matched the success they had in San Diego until they gravy trained their way into Staples. Personally I just think it would be better for California and the NBA in general if the Clippers moved to Anaheim or San Diego but Sterling makes money whether the team is good or bad in Staples so I doubt that will ever happen. Papercut posted:Yeah those 4 playoff matchups (3 in the first round) over their 40-year histories were really epic.
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Idiot Kicker posted:Seriously, though, what should we displaced fans do? Just watch without a favorite team? That might actually be a relief. The Warriors are both fun as heck and nearby geographically. 
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Idiot Kicker posted:Seriously, though, what should we displaced fans do? Just watch without a favorite team? That might actually be a relief. The Warriors aren't that far away and might actually be getting good. e: ^^ ha
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Hey, that's not a bad idea. Oakland's not that far from where I grew up. They have some die-hard fans over there too.
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Please tell me they play this before games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwwY9y6O3hw Man, I feel bad for Sac. But I grew up with the Sonics, they were my favorite sports team--even more than the Mariners. I'm out of my skin with excitement right now. Somewhere, people are digging through thrift shop bins for old Sonics gear...
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