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WhyteRyce posted:Hold me There's always the Capitals tennis team in the Sunrise Mall parking lot 
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This poo poo is depressing. One of the guys I work with is a die hard Warriors fan who grew up in Oakland and he was almost sick about this today at work...and he doesn't even LIKE the team.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 03:27 |
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God, the 2002 WCF still pisses me off.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 03:31 |
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The Maloofs bungling this is the most Maloofian possible outcome. Goddammit gently caress the Maloofs those guys ruined an ENTIRE SPORT for me.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 03:38 |
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SteelAngel2000 posted:I want them back in San Diego Never going to happen. People just watch the Lakers and facilities aside, SD just doesn't have a strong enough corporate presence. The Chargers are having a bad enough time that they're the perpetual candidate for relocation to LA. SD is a really odd city. It's an area filled with a lot of transient residents and much of the big money is people who own houses in places like La Jolla that they live in for a few months out of the year while they spend the rest of their time back on the east coast. It's really hard to get people like that to throw $ down for luxury boxes, season tickets, etc. when they already have them for their hometown teams.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 04:03 |
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I just signed a change.org petition...is this what I am resorting to?
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 04:23 |
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WhyteRyce posted:I just signed a change.org petition...is this what I am resorting to? I relied om cynicism and negativity to get through life after the Sonics left. I relied on it before they left too but that's splitting hairs.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 04:27 |
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WhyteRyce posted:I just signed a change.org petition...is this what I am resorting to? Just think of it as a 3-5 year break from bad basketball until the Bobcats are ready to move.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 04:28 |
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WhyteRyce posted:I just signed a change.org petition...is this what I am resorting to? Today we are all on Team Dime.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 04:45 |
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WhyteRyce posted:WE WANT MORE MONEY GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE Honestly, it sounds like every time the other side seems somewhat positive about the deal, the Maloof's start freaking out that they may not be getting absolute maximum on their deal and start torpedoing it. I am not surprised at all that what sounds like a slam-dunk (350 mil + taking on debt is a GREAT deal) is being fumbled right now.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 04:58 |
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Say what you will about the scumbaggery and debt, watch them make another hundred mil in the span of a week off the Seattle crew. The family is pretty bad at running a sports team but they aren't bad at business, in the general sense.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:08 |
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sigmachiev posted:Say what you will about the scumbaggery and debt, watch them make another hundred mil in the span of a week off the Seattle crew. The family is pretty bad at running a sports team but they aren't bad at business, in the general sense.  No, they are actually really terrible at running businesses too. Thats why they are broke as gently caress
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:13 |
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It seems that it is almost impossible to lose money owning a sports team right now except by using fake accounting to screw over players at CBA negotiations.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:30 |
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Rasheed Wallace posted:
I was thinking of the patriarch who built the distribution business, not the kids who run the team.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:31 |
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sigmachiev posted:I was thinking of the patriarch who built the distribution business, not the kids who run the team. George Sr. died more than thirty years ago, though? 
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:36 |
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Idiot Kicker posted:Seriously, though, what should we displaced fans do? Just watch without a favorite team? That might actually be a relief. It's pretty hard to care after the team leaves.  I had planned to follow the Blazers as my new team when the Sonics left, but it just didn't happen. Of course Oden and Roy imploding didn't help. I still tune in to the playoffs, but last June even that I wasn't really engaged on.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:44 |
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Basil Hayden posted:George Sr. died more than thirty years ago, though? Wow really? I take it back then. I... I just want hoops in Seattle again. I can't think OK.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:53 |
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sigmachiev posted:I was thinking of the patriarch who built the distribution business, not the kids who run the team. They managed to lose money on a casino, a business that involves a preprogrammed profit margin.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:53 |
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Thunder visiting the "Sonics" is going to be a weird moment indeed.tallkidwithglasses posted:They managed to lose money on a casino, a business that involves a preprogrammed profit margin. They didn't lose money on a casino, they lost money on a condo tower by believing that people would pay big money to live at casinos.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 05:58 |
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Idiot Kicker posted:God, the 2002 WCF still pisses me off. I've been teamless since then. A grown man shouldn't be carrying a grudge against a sports league for 10 years, but here we are.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 06:00 |
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Trabant posted:I've been teamless since then. Seriously though, if that Game 7 was called correctly, or if Horry never made that loving lucky 3 point shot-- Sacramento would still have a team, and probably a championship banner. It's pretty incredible, the ripple effect of that one bounce of the ball.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 06:17 |
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Craptacular! posted:Thunder visiting the "Sonics" is going to be a weird moment indeed. An off-strip casino, at that
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 06:55 |
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seiferguy posted:Steve Ballmer is worth $15.7 billion. He should drop the 'm' from his name, would then be eligible to be the owner of the All Name Team.
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Rasheed Wallace posted:An off-strip casino, at that Though the property values aren't as high, it's generally thought that being just right outside the Strip was desirable simply because you're close to all those grocery stores, liquor outlets, mini-marts etc that exist in the established neighbourhoods. Maloof is an idiot in basketball, but a bunch of companies that do nothing but run casinos took on as much water as he did or more. The only ones that didn't are either being saved by massive Macau profits, or were too busy re-organizing and missed the timing of the condo construction bubble. On the occasions I've met the guy I got the impression that he had bright ideas for his place, but he eventually bit the same bug as everyone else. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at Jan 10, 2013 around 07:08 |
| # ? Jan 10, 2013 07:05 |
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I can't believe anyone can think the Maloofs aren't anything but terrible businessmen. Less than a year ago they managed to secure the rights (somehow!) to grace their arena's exterior with the name of a magic bracelet company. This is the least dumb thing a Maloof has done in the last 5 years. During the heyday of the Kings they were absolutely loaded from Daddy's fortune. Less than a decade later they have failed at so many investments and ventures that they are left, essentially, with the Kings as their only real asset. Spoeank fucked around with this message at Jan 10, 2013 around 07:20 |
| # ? Jan 10, 2013 07:16 |
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no matter how this turns out, gently caress the Maloofs they're loving douchebags who should eat an AIDS dick
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 07:29 |
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Spoeank posted:I can't believe anyone can think the Maloofs aren't anything but terrible businessmen. Wow that's really depressing. Why didn't they just give their money to Warren Buffett and spend their time partying? To lose a fortune like that within a generation is pretty impressive.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 09:53 |
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Man, I only just saw this. That really sucks. Comiserations WhyteRyce and other Kings fans. I'd be happy for the Clips to move to Sacramento but we know that ain't happening any time soon. Maybe you'll get a team like the Hawks who nobody seem to care about (Just kidding Hawks fans).
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 10:42 |
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Blinkman987 posted:No, I didn't know. That's pretty loving bizarre. To be fair, the Sonics leaving was a combined effort. Schultz is a cheap rear end in a top hat and Bennett certainly was not honest with his intentions, but Schultz had been trying to get the arena updated (it was the league's smallest) and Seattle politicians had basically told him to gently caress off and didn't think he had the guts to move them. Now, I honestly think Schultz sold them assuming that they would stay in Seattle and the new ownership would have more leverage because they weren't as tied to Seattle as he was. That was pretty dumb on his part. It will be interesting to see how much $$ Seattle spends on getting the new team and the arena they are promised.
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No one has ever cared about the Hawks, I don't know why they still exist. Even during Dominique's heyday, the Omni Center always seemed deserted (lots of awesome dunks with empty seats in the background).
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Jack's Flow posted:No one has ever cared about the Hawks, I don't know why they still exist. Even during Dominique's heyday, the Omni Center always seemed deserted (lots of awesome dunks with empty seats in the background). Probably that it's such a big market. Also, Atlanta's full of transplants willing to root for other teams. I remember a Knicks-Hawks game a couple of years a go where Amare got deafening MVP chants. I wish the Nets would have moved since nobody cared when they were in Jersey, but it's too late for that. They could expand to Sacramento and Kansas City (who have been dying for a team for their newish arena), but that's wishful thinking.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 12:00 |
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Seattle Times asked readers if they'd feel guilty if they stole Sacramento: Stay classy, Seattle fans.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 14:00 |
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seiferguy posted:Seattle Times asked readers if they'd feel guilty if they stole Sacramento: Pretty sure 57% of the population feeling some kind of bad about it is more than OKC in 2008.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 14:40 |
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I didn't hold it against OKC fans for being happy a team is coming, why would I hold it against Seattle fans? Be pissed at owners, not the fans who want to watch a local basketball team.Spoeank posted:I can't believe anyone can think the Maloofs aren't anything but terrible businessmen. Didn't they have a liqour distribution business too? Seriously, gambling and liquor in Las Vegas should keep you afloat. I know Vegas took a big hit but come on.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Pretty sure 57% of the population feeling some kind of bad about it is more than OKC in 2008. I think 57% is the number of Thunder fans who will log on to the internet and start posting "gently caress you Seattle we got this team now!!" without any sort of provocation.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 15:08 |
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The Maloofs failures in business have been well chronicled. They sold their cash-cow liquor distribution company which they father built. They did it in a futile effort to keep their head above water. They didn't sell it to finance their condo project, they did it to keep up with their loan payments after the market had already crashed and they lost a shitload of money and the writing was on the wall. Not exactly a good business decision. Yes, lots of other people lost money in condos in Vegas, but that doesn't make it a good business decision. They've had other failed ventures too. Are you aware that they've had a music label and production studio?! Because that's what the business world needed more of. Now they are pushing something else there isn't enough of in the world, a boutique vodka. They got completely hosed on the naming rights to their stadium. They signed an agreement with Power Balance after they already got sued in Australia for selling fraud products. By the time the company declared bankruptcy, the Maloofs only got a fraction of the money they were supposed to from the company. And do to their fine business sense and legal ability, they were not eligible for financial restitution from PB's bankruptcy. I don't recall the numbers off the top of my head, but I believe they received $700k in total for the naming rights. They claimed that taking down all the PB signage would cost $200k. WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at Jan 10, 2013 around 15:50 |
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We're only appearing in this Carl 's Jr commercial because its a superior product that needs a voice, honest!
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 15:49 |
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The Maloofs used to pay full price for beverages (to serve at the arena) because they were operating without a deal in place with Pepsi or Coke because they were making too many ridiculous demands. No discounts or anything. They choose to eat the costs in order to protect the image of the brand or some poo poo like that.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 15:52 |
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Oklahoma homer here uh, LOL Jack's Flow posted:No one has ever cared about the Hawks, I don't know why they still exist. Even during Dominique's heyday, the Omni Center always seemed deserted (lots of awesome dunks with empty seats in the background).
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Lockback posted:I didn't hold it against OKC fans for being happy a team is coming, why would I hold it against Seattle fans? Be pissed at owners, not the fans who want to watch a local basketball team. Yeah they managed to squander a fortune that was based entirely on siphoning money out of peoples vices. It's really sort of impressive.
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