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Who hosts your league? This poll is closed. |
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| Yahoo! |
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45 | 54.88% |
| ESPN |
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27 | 32.93% |
| CBS |
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8 | 9.76% |
| Other (Please specify below) |
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2 | 2.44% |
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Hello managers, Welcome to the first fantasy baseball thread of the new year. As the title suggests, let's use this thread for anything and everything before the draft, the date I consider the 'Opening Day' of the fantasy game. I've got about ten years of experience in all sorts of formats and will be glad to help when I can. I've also got my own questions for my own league and will ask them shortly after the introductory post. My one suggestion for everyone is this: PREFACE YOUR POST(S) WITH YOUR LEAGUE'S RULES. Categories used, number of teams, total budget, positions used, rotisserie vs H2H, everything. All of these things matter. Even if your league is the common 5x5 rotisserie, specify it. There are so many variations these days. That's really all I can think of putting here. Let me know if you want something added.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 03:32 |
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| # ? May 21, 2013 10:27 |
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Let's kick this pig off right. I need keeper input: I play in a 6x6 rotisserie league, with OBP instead of AVG, and SLG and QS added. We draft via an auction, where we're budgeted $225. Keepers have a cost that comes out of this budget. Each team employs 4 OF, 2 UTIL, and 9 P slots (no distinction between SP and RP. Our innings limit is 1700. I can keep a maximum of six players. I can choose from the following: Votto @ $25 Zobrist @ $16 Longoria @ $25 Tulowitzki @ $25 Stanton @ $25 Melky @ $10 Papi @ $10 Rizzo @ $10 Swisher @ $10 Dickey @ $10 Here's what I know: I'm keeping Votto, Stanton, and Zobrist for $66 total, leaving me $159 and another three potential keepers. Longoria and Tulo would be no-brainers, even at that price, but I'm absolutely afraid of each's injury history. Melky offers a lot of potential value, but only if he can somewhat replicate his last two years, which is not a foregone conclusion. His BABIP has been extraordinarily high with very little change in his batted ball spread. Screams luck to me. Plus, he might be available at a low cost in the draft due to PED use. Just can't see myself keeping him right now. Ortiz and Rizzo offer about the same value, I think. Rizzo will have a few SB, and Ortiz will have about 20 point of OBP. I can really go with either or both depending. Swisher...eh. I could get him for nearly that in the draft. Dickey is a huge question mark and I really don't know where to begin. Yes, he's hard to hit, but he's moving to a tougher league and a smaller ballpark. And no matter how good he is, he was definitely the beneficiary of some good graces last year. He'll probably still be a top 20 pitcher, but is that really worth keeping? Pitching is just too volatile year-in, year-out. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. As of now, if I absolutely had to pick another set of three to keep, I'd go Ortiz, Longoria, and Dickey. At the same time, I'm proposing a few trades involving Longoria and Tulowitzki. It's the middle of the offseason, though, and no one's really bitten. I did receive an offer of J. Upton and C. Gonzalez for Tulo and Longoria, but it'd cost the same to keep them. Still an interesting proposal, though.
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| # ? Jan 10, 2013 03:50 |
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In that format I guess I'd rank them like so: Votto Tulo Stanton Dickey Ortiz Zobrist ******** Longoria Melky Swisher Rizzo So swapping Tulo for Longoria. Third base is kind of deep around the league now; SS isn't, and last I heard Tulo was fully recovered from his groin injury (which isn't a major red flag type injury like a knee, AFAIK). Swisher's counting stats will suffer in Cleveland; same for Rizzo on the Cubs. I love the Melkman, but his batting avg. is much more impressive than his OBP. You have to keep Dickey, he is an ace and aces are really valuable wherever they pitch, even the  AL EAST.
The Pussy Boss fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2013 around 02:14 |
| # ? Jan 13, 2013 03:13 |
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What do you guys think about Wil Myers? Rays gonna plug him into the lineup Opening Day, or hold him down for service time reasons?
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| # ? Jan 13, 2013 16:57 |
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BrooklynBruiser posted:What do you guys think about Wil Myers? Rays gonna plug him into the lineup Opening Day, or hold him down for service time reasons? Latter almost certainly. This is the Rays we're talking about. They're going to maximize their assets in any way possible. They did it with Longoria, Jennings, Price, everyone.
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| # ? Jan 14, 2013 01:48 |
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Mock drafts are up, and I got bored and did one. Here's the result: 10 teams, head to head both leagues Picked 4th C: Buster Posey 1B: Prince Fielder 2B: Brandon Phillips 3B: Aramis Ramirez SS: Jose Reyes OF: Matt Kemp, Jose Bautista, BJ Upton UT: David Ortiz BN: Pablo Sandoval, Ryan Howard, Ben Revere, Brett Gardner, Emilio Bonifacio P: Jonathan Papelbon, Mariano Rivera, Jason Motte, Sergio Romo, JJ Putz, Rafael Betancourt, Joel Hanrahan BN: Ryan Madson I suppose it doesn't help those who draft starters, but there's a good homers, steals, saves, and ratios team.
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| # ? Jan 16, 2013 00:19 |
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The Pussy Boss posted:In that format I guess I'd rank them like so: I've been mulling this over for the last couple of days. It's going to be hard to take Dickey over Longoria, simply because I subscribe to the 'spend $1 on tons of flyers' theory of auctions. But Dickey's such a non-injury risk that I guess I can make the exception for him. I'm also throwing out a Longoria-for-Goldschmidt ($10) trade, which would help. Man, this is going to be tough. e: And am I wrong for keeping Zobrist? When Tulo's healthy, that should be a pretty killer MI. And for when Tulo goes down, he'd play a solid backup for Tulo, assuming I don't get my hands on Profar. Abel Wingnut fucked around with this message at Jan 16, 2013 around 01:20 |
| # ? Jan 16, 2013 00:50 |
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Whoa, I didn't realize Zobrist was SS-eligible. Didn't have him on any teams last year and I didn't follow the Rays super closely. Now that I know, yeah definitely keep him.
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| # ? Jan 16, 2013 01:39 |
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Moneyball posted:Mock drafts are up, and I got bored and did one. Here's the result: 10 teams, head to head both leagues Where did Aramis go in your draft? He hit well last year and sneakily stole nine bags. A pretty good option this year. Also, what about Gardner and Bonifacio?
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| # ? Jan 16, 2013 05:42 |
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code:Moneyball fucked around with this message at Jan 16, 2013 around 16:37 |
| # ? Jan 16, 2013 16:34 |
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But the mock auctions aren't exactly set up well if you're drafting against computers... C: Buster Posey, Joe Mauer 1B: Albert Pujols 2B: Robinson Cano 3B: Miguel Cabrera SS: Troy Tulowitzki OF: Ryan Braun, Mike Trout, Matt Kemp, Giancarlo Stanton, Josh Hamilton UT: Joey Votto, Carlos Gonzalez Bench: Prince Fielder, Evan Longoria SP: Justin Verlander, Clayton Kershaw, David Price, Stephen Strasburg, Cole Hamels RP: Craig Kimbrel, Jason Motte, Jonathan Papelbon, Sergio Romo
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| # ? Jan 16, 2013 17:35 |
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Bench: Prince Fielder 
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| # ? Jan 17, 2013 02:30 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:Latter almost certainly. This is the Rays we're talking about. They're going to maximize their assets in any way possible. They did it with Longoria, Jennings, Price, everyone. They didn't with Longoria. And David Price was a Super Two, so if they tried to minimize his pay it didn't work. Madden said he probably wouldn't make the team out of spring training though. But I wouldn't be surprised if he does since he really should've been up last year and you see how much Harper & Trout helped last year. Not that he'll be nearly as good as either of those two.
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| # ? Jan 17, 2013 16:09 |
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Schweinhund posted:They didn't with Longoria. And David Price was a Super Two, so if they tried to minimize his pay it didn't work. Madden said he probably wouldn't make the team out of spring training though. But I wouldn't be surprised if he does since he really should've been up last year and you see how much Harper & Trout helped last year. Not that he'll be nearly as good as either of those two. I have a feeling they start without him and then make the call-up when they realize they really don't have the offense to make it work. In Price's case, they were sub-.500 when they called him up at the end of May, 2009. Super Two is a pretty big deal for a team like Tampa, though, and the Super Two pool is a little bigger under the new CBA. tadashi fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2013 around 21:43 |
| # ? Jan 18, 2013 21:40 |
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What young starters does everyone like this year? I tend to stay set from expensive experienced starters, I like to grab a handful of high upside cheap guys. Last year I struck gold with Beachy (while he lasted), Sale, Zimmerman, Samardzja, and Baumgarner. This year I love Medlen, Samardzja should be cheap again, Ken Harvey an Jarrod Parker. Anyone else?
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| # ? Jan 18, 2013 23:58 |
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A bunch of guys I think could be had for cheap: Estrada, Teheran, Morrow, Harvey, Shelby, Ogando, Baker. Really depends on who makes the team out of camp.
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| # ? Jan 19, 2013 00:08 |
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Do you mean Matt Harvey? And have we missed the get them cheap boat on Matt Moore and Alex Cobb? I think both can be had for cheaper than Kris Medlen.
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| # ? Jan 19, 2013 15:37 |
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Moneyball posted:Do you mean Matt Harvey? Haha, yeah, I have no idea where Ken came from. I like both Alex Cobb and Ogando. I really hope they make Ogando a full time starter this year. I don't think either one will be expensive. And perusing some very early rankings, it looks like you're right, Medlen is going very high, much higher than I expected. I don't think I'd pay $20 for him, as much as I like him.
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| # ? Jan 19, 2013 19:12 |
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Moneyball posted:Do you mean Matt Harvey? Yes.
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| # ? Jan 19, 2013 19:37 |
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Are the O's going to move Machado off of third to get SS eligibility? 5 games is what I need.
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| # ? Jan 21, 2013 16:15 |
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burmart posted:Are the O's going to move Machado off of third to get SS eligibility? 5 games is what I need. Maybe if Hardy goes on the DL for a bit. Barring that, no.
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| # ? Jan 21, 2013 16:43 |
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Alright, 5x5 Standard Categories mixed keeper league. 260 budget. Two catchers. Corner and middle infielder in addition to the 2b,ss,1b,3b. Can keep between 8 and 12 players. I need keepers. Here are my realistic options. Suggestions? Salvy Perez @ 1 (seems like a no brainer, and I'll keep him at this) Wilson Ramos @ 1 Todd Frazier @ 5 Jose Altuve @ 4 (probably going to keep him because I like watching him) Howie Kendrick @ 16 (probably not) Chase Headley @ 5 (another no brainer) Manny Machado @ 5 Troy Tulo @ 43 Jayson Heyward @ 15 (another no brainer) Matt Kemp @ 45 Ben Zobrist @ 16 Pablo Sandoval @ 16 Steve Lombardozzi @ 5 (i have a thing for multiple position eligibility) Trevor Cahill @ 3 Ryan Cook @ 5 Lucas Harrell @ 5 Edwin Jackson @ 5 Chris Perez @ 4 (no brainer for cheap saves) Addison Reed @ 1 (no brainer for cheap saves) James Shields @ 13 Daniel Straily @ 7 Sean Doolittle @ 5 Chris Tillman @ 5 I think I have some great options. I could probably get Tulo back for that amount. Not sure if I could get Kemp back for that (we'll have some pretty big inflation this year.)
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| # ? Jan 21, 2013 19:50 |
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burmart posted:Alright, 5x5 Standard Categories mixed keeper league. 260 budget. Two catchers. Corner and middle infielder in addition to the 2b,ss,1b,3b. Can keep between 8 and 12 players. You've got some pretty great values in there. Altuve at 2nd, Zobrist at SS, and Headley at 3rd for a combined $25 is a nice infield. I really like Zobrist with SS eligibility. You're looking at some solid SB's from that group, 60-70. Perez at C is great value too. I'd keep Heyward and Kemp in the OF. Even if Kemp isn't great "value", you're right, with inflation he'll go higher, and there just may not be any elite OF'ers available in the draft with 8-12 keepers each. With that in mind, I'd also keep Tulo, also due to elite player scarcity. I'd keep Machado as a $5 lottery ticket. That'd put you at $134 spent, and you'd only need to find one 1B, one CI, one C and two OF'ers with about $50 to $70 left to spend on offense. You could fill out your squad pretty well with that much money left over. I don't have much opinion on the pitchers, I usually punt saves, but for $5 total, Reed and Perez look good to me.
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| # ? Jan 21, 2013 21:56 |
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Not a ton of traffic on here this early, but what the hey, I'll ask for some advice. I posed pretty much the same question at the end of last season but sometimes perceptions change over the off season ya know? I'm in a 12 team league which is H2H points(every goon's favorite). Our league has a ridiculous amount of categories that I've tried to convince people are superfluous. Anyways, it's like 10 or 12 offensive categories and 10 or so pitching categories, all you really need to know is that pitchers earn a lot of points, so I'd say they are a more valuable in my league than your standard roto league. Also we can roster like 9 SP's(and every team does), so every single serviceable SP is grabbed in our league very quickly. I can only keep 3 players and I honestly have too many good valued keepers to choose from. Allen Craig - 1B, OF - $2 Ryan Zimmerman - 3B - $6 Manny Machado - 3B, SS - $2 Robinson Cano - 2B - $49 Stephen Strasburg - SP - $11 Jordan Zimmermann - SP - $13 Jake Peavy - SP - $2 Chris Sale - $6 I wish I could keep like 5 players because I'd be set, but alas it's only 3. Overall I'm going to focus more on offense this year, last year I was pitching focused and while I made it to the championship I feel that pitching is easier to pick up on the wire. Our league is honestly the opposite of most though, people don't want to trade pitching but are very willing to trade offense, it's odd... I'm leaning towards keeping Craig, Zimmermann and Strasburg. That gives me one solid ace on my pitching staff and two good producers at great value on offense. I can then spend high on OF and middle infield and look for some value at SP. It's tough though, for example Chris Sale earned 380 points last year to Allen Craig's 306. And honestly Sale might go for more money than Craig in our auction. Craig was like the 6th best 1B on a pts/game basis though, but he's an injury risk, although so is every pitcher on my team. Any thoughts? DoctaFun fucked around with this message at Jan 23, 2013 around 15:15 |
| # ? Jan 22, 2013 20:40 |
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I'd keep Sale over Craig. I'nm kinda bearish on Craig though since his 2nd half is more where I see him this season.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 23:25 |
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How the hell does Sale cost more than Strasburg?
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 23:30 |
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Any thoughts on Roy Halladay? He could be an absolute steal as the 15th-20th pitcher taken, IF last year was just a blip and bad luck with men on base. Would you take him ahead of say, Latos or Gallardo?
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 00:12 |
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burmart posted:Alright, 5x5 Standard Categories mixed keeper league. 260 budget. Two catchers. Corner and middle infielder in addition to the 2b,ss,1b,3b. Can keep between 8 and 12 players. I mostly agree with what District Selectman said, but I'd keep Wilson Ramos. He's hit .269/.333/.432 as a major leaguer and plays on one of the best offenses in the NL. And I think Sandoval is easily worth $16, although you might not want to spend that much on third basemen. I might let Altuve go, and consider keeping Frazier and Edwin Jackson, depending on if you think you can get equivalent guys cheaper in the draft, or even will have room for them on your roster. I like Frazier a lot, he's another young guy on a good offense, and he's eligible at 3B, OF and 1B.
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 00:58 |
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The Pussy Boss posted:Any thoughts on Roy Halladay? He could be an absolute steal as the 15th-20th pitcher taken, IF last year was just a blip and bad luck with men on base. Would you take him ahead of say, Latos or Gallardo? I probably would, even without being Halladay of old, he still has higher upside than either of those two. If it pays off, it'd probably do so in a big way. I'm somewhat concerned about that offense getting him a respectable number of wins, though. e: To clarify I'm talking about the Young brothers, Michael and Delmon, apparently both having starting jobs behind him. They will also contribute to many, many unearned runs and unnecessarily thrown pitches. uublog fucked around with this message at Jan 23, 2013 around 01:26 |
| # ? Jan 23, 2013 01:07 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:How the hell does Sale cost more than Strasburg? Oops, I forgot about the inflation to keep Strasburg. I kept Strasburg last year for $1 or something, so he'll be $11 this year. I still think I'll keep him at that price. I'm kind of leaning Strasburg/Sale/R. Zimmermann right now. That should give me two top 20 pitchers and a solid cheap 3B, for $22. Then I'll try to trade Peavy/Zimmermann/Craig for some auction cash. I know my league is weird, but I doubt that there are 20 pitchers that go for more money than Halladay(or would get drafted before him). I would absolutely take him over Gallardo or Latos. DoctaFun fucked around with this message at Jan 23, 2013 around 15:15 |
| # ? Jan 23, 2013 15:13 |
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Does Justin Upton's standard fantasy value increase a bit with him on the Braves? I'd think this could push him up over 100 RBI but I guess he was already a 25 HR/~20 SB/100 Run player?
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 18:50 |
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tadashi posted:Does Justin Upton's standard fantasy value increase a bit with him on the Braves? I'd think this could push him up over 100 RBI but I guess he was already a 25 HR/~20 SB/100 Run player? All 3 guys jumped up considerably.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 18:59 |
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Let's kick this pig off right. I need keeper input: I play in a 6x6 rotisserie league, with OBP instead of AVG, and SLG and QS added. We draft via an auction, where we're budgeted $225. Keepers have a cost that comes out of this budget. Each team employs 4 OF, 2 UTIL, and 9 P slots (no distinction between SP and RP. Our innings limit is 1700. I can keep a maximum of six players. I can choose from the following: Votto @ $25 Zobrist @ $16 Tulowitzki @ $25 Stanton @ $25 Ortiz @ $10 Dickey @ $10 I've been offered Billy Butler ($10) for Tulo. I kind of think it makes a lot of sense. I've got Zobrist with SS eligibility, 2 UTIL slots, and I save $15, which is really huge in this draft where the budget is $225. Thoughts?
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| # ? Jan 25, 2013 17:58 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:Let's kick this pig off right. I need keeper input: I wouldn't do it since SS is a scarce position and having elite player like Tulo there can never be bad. Butler is eligible at 1B which has a lot more players who are just as good and better than him. You already have Votto at 1st and Ortiz taking up one of your UTIL slots. Do you really want to fill the other up before you see how the draft goes? If anything trade Stanton, the Marlins have traded away everyone and he has no protection whatsoever. The guy will be getting junk all year and his strikeouts are going to jump up since he doesn't like walking that much.
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| # ? Jan 25, 2013 18:41 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:Let's kick this pig off right. I need keeper input: I would never trade Tulo at that price, unless you're getting like Mike Trout or something. Tulo at $25 is ~11% of your budget, he went for about ~17% of total budget in my league last year. That's a great price on Votto too. Having an elite player at scarce positions is a great advantage, especially at that price, the dropoff from Tulo to Zobrist could be quite large.
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| # ? Jan 25, 2013 23:09 |
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The fantasy league I played in last season had zero trades and half the people stopped logging in after the All-Star Break (one guy had Verlander and Dickey sitting on the bench for 2 months). I'm making my own league this year and have a couple of friends and family joining. I was wondering if anyone had some tips or warnings about starting a league? I'm going with ESPN, and I'm kind of on the fence about how we'll be scoring. My last league didn't score Steals which I want in my new league. Also not sure how many keepers I should allow (if any)?
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| # ? Jan 26, 2013 09:21 |
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H2H if you like a more personal game; Rotisserie if you want the most accurate. I've never played in a Points league so I can't speak to its qualities. ESPN provides more options and is just better designed at this point. I find keeper leagues far more interesting than seasonal leagues. And if you have a lot of guys really involved, then the offseason stays interesting as well. Oh, and OBP instead of AVG. Also include SLG and QS.
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| # ? Jan 26, 2013 16:02 |
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Auctions if you have a really involved group; snake if it's less involved and more friendly. You want 12 teams, 10 at a minimum. Mixed leagues > NL-only or AL-only.
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| # ? Jan 26, 2013 16:13 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:Let's kick this pig off right. I need keeper input: That trade's a tossup based on current values. Tulo is currently going top 15 or so in mock drafts, Butler is going top 35. In a $260 budgeted league, that might be something like $35-$40 for Tulo, and $25-$30 for Butler. So there's maybe a $10 auction value between the two, but you're getting back $15 in cost. How much that changes between now and the actual draft is anyone's guess. Personally, I want nothing to do with Tulo this year, but I bet you can get better value for him. EDIT: $25-$30 might actually be high for Butler, $20-$25 seems closer, in which case the cost and value difference are both $15. So still a toss-up value wise. District Selectman fucked around with this message at Jan 26, 2013 around 19:21 |
| # ? Jan 26, 2013 19:03 |
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| # ? May 21, 2013 10:27 |
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Yea, gently caress it. I'm investing heavy in superstars and playing the waiver wire. Still can't justify Longoria at $25 over Ortiz, Dickey, or Zobrist, though.
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