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RIP Pride?
Yes
I miss you old friend
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kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He'll finally get a ring!


http://www.fuel.tv/bestofpridefightingchampionship/



This week is as good as any to start, with Nog/CroCop as a featured fight.

Our friends at FuelTV have helpfully included a channel guide at the bottom of that page, so that should be your first check.

But kensei, what the hell is Pride? Why do I care?

My friend, Pride was a Japanese fighting organization that featured freak show match ups with widely ranging weight classes and no athletic commission so steroids and uppers were rumored to be wide spread.

You can participate in type action in #mma on synirc.org and please feel free to ask questions here. I only ask that we do not spoil everything for the new viewers, but try to stay semi-topical with the current airing.

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coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


are they full fights or wacky edits?

I might drop in to yell at bros not banging.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He'll finally get a ring!


This week features:

Big Nog vs CroCop

Marilo Bustamante vs Masanori Suda

Ken Shamrock vs Alexander Otsuka

Hansen vs Azerdo

Enjoy!

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He'll finally get a ring!


coconono posted:

are they full fights or wacky edits?

I might drop in to yell at bros not banging.

drat you beat me to my own thread.

I am not sure, I have not caught it in a while. IIRC they have some of both.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"


Hell yeah, PRIDE!

That looks like a good line-up to start things off.

I always forget about Fuel unless there are prelims on it because it's not HD and

Grifter
Jul 24, 2003

I do this technique called a suplex. You probably haven't heard of it, it's pretty obscure.

You know what's cool? Theatricality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRjCfdJbb6g

Julio Cesar Fatass
Jul 24, 2007

YES!
YES!
YES!


Another cool thing is Hammer House guys flinging themselves into submissions for the promise a paycheck. We were watching old HUSTLE on IRC and there was a scene where Mark Coleman was sleeping on the street, mumbling "Family!" over and over again. One guy asked if it was a documentary

Belle Isle Tech
Aug 28, 2009


One thing that should be noted about Pride was its extravagant production value. An entire Pride PPV could last up to 4 - 5 hours because it consisted of not only the fights, but also an opening ceremony featuring a man (Nobuhiko Takada) wearing a diaper hitting a gigantic drum, while all of the fighters on the card were introduced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UXu7a1tJ6Y - Pride Shockwave 2006 Opening Ceremony

Following that, there were intros (or "VTRs") before every fight that showcased the fighters, such as this one with Ken Shamrock vs Don Fyre, and one of my favorite intros, Wanderlei Silva Vs Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWJBFnaRMM - Ken Shamrock vs Don Frye - Pride 19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcybkaN2Zqk - Wanderlei Silva vs Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic - Pride 20

Sometimes fighters did entertaining walkouts, like Akihiro Gono at Pride Bushido 12, or Kazushi Sakuraba, who constantly came up with entertaining walkouts, at Pride Final Conflict 2003 when he came out as Super Mario. Listen for Lenne Hardt, who announces the fighters as they walk out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOXNOX1NFqs#t=142s - Akihiro Gono vs Gegard Mousasi - Pride Bushido 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMziM0FbiIQ#t=282s - Kazushi Sakuraba vs Kevin Randleman - Pride Final Conflict 2003

At the end of each fight, the winner was handed a trophy and a giant novelty check, before they walked backstage and the next fight's intro was set to begin. Usually it was limited to DVD releases, but sometimes you would see backstage footage before or after a fight, but when we did get backstage footage, we got gems like this one with Mark Coleman yelling at himself after his loss to Fedor Emelianenko at Pride Total Elimination 2004

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCnqy8Klaw

All in all, these PPVs were very time consuming and enduring, as anyone who's sat through an entire DREAM card knows, since they are very similar in production style. When these PPVs were broadcasted in North America, they were tape delayed and heavily edited due to time constraints and supposedly music rights, so a lot of the stuff I just mentioned, including all of the fighter intros, were cut out, in favor of showing Bas Rutten, Stephen Quadros, or Mauro Ranallo talking. Unfortunately, the FuelTV and Fox Sports broadcast of The Best of Pride are even more edited, so you'll probably only see the fights themselves.

To cap off everything I wrote, watch this interview of Wallid Ismail being interviewed by Stephen Quadros and watch some cool fights on The Best of Pride:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cuM3WneAZ0

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He'll finally get a ring!


/\/\/\ thanks for doing that.

We could take this one step further and try a live stream of some actual Pride DVDs...

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005



kensei posted:

/\/\/\ thanks for doing that.

We could take this one step further and try a live stream of some actual Pride DVDs...

Do this please

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Good Nuz, Everyone!

My favourite VTR is still the one they did for Fedor/Crocop. I dunno if it's the Terminator music or what, but I still get goosebumps watching it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N78SuVHM9CM

(Also you can totally tell that they really wanted Crocop to win that one, lol)

Grifter
Jul 24, 2003

I do this technique called a suplex. You probably haven't heard of it, it's pretty obscure.

kensei posted:

We could take this one step further and try a live stream of some actual Pride DVDs...
I don't know if that's legal or whatever but I'd watch it.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"


kensei posted:

/\/\/\ thanks for doing that.

We could take this one step further and try a live stream of some actual Pride DVDs...

I've got a decent amount of PRIDE DVDs (And also EliteXC if anyone cares for the "old school" thread), but I don't know anything about setting up a live stream.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He'll finally get a ring!


Google Butt posted:

Do this please


Grifter posted:

I don't know if that's legal or whatever but I'd watch it.


LobsterMobster posted:

I've got a decent amount of PRIDE DVDs (And also EliteXC if anyone cares for the "old school" thread), but I don't know anything about setting up a live stream.

I'm not sure how to do it, but it seems like there is interest.

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008


Are these new episodes?

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

My era is Karate. Karate's back. MACHIDA KARATE!

Never bet against wrestling.

to paraphrase someone from here from years back, Crocop v Fedor was super dope because with the intro promos and run up the fight wasn't about the heavyweight title as much as it was Crocops dead dad. i remember watching it like halfway in on one of those Pride recap shows on Fox Sports Net not knowing who either dude was and rooting for Mirko to beat Fedor.

the world would be a better place if that had been the outcome

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Part of my training entailed getting the enemy to communicate.

kensei posted:

I'm not sure how to do it, but it seems like there is interest.

You could try and set up a synchtube channel, PSP has one for pro wrestling

http://www.synchtube.com/

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010

James Thomoson
#1 B league HW
(and of our hearts)


Anyone who has ever watched Pride knows that some of the best fights of all time involve James Thompson.

http://youtu.be/vQdqQsivA4U

His first fight alone has been credited with bringing more people to MMA than any other fight.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

I bet against K-1


Lid posted:

You could try and set up a synchtube channel, PSP has one for pro wrestling

http://www.synchtube.com/

Synchtube is best if you've already got the content uploaded to Youtube or Vimeo(don't use Vimeo, Synchtube's synch coding is awful on vimeo)

If you've got a burly enough internet connection, Livestream is pretty nice. They even have their own streaming software too.

Belle Isle Tech
Aug 28, 2009


This was posted in another thread, but the UFC has put up Rampage Jackson Vs. Ricardo Arona from Pride Critical Countdown 2004 here:

http://www.ufc.com/media/ufc-pridec...kson-arona-free

Also, if you're unable to catch Best of Pride on FuelTV, there are full episodes of it on UFC.com. I recommend checking out Best of Pride 109, in particular Mirko Cro Cop vs. Alexander Emelianenko, which ends in Alexs getting kicked in the head with a left kick, then proceeding to fall over like a tree.

http://www.ufc.com/search?filter=Me...y=Best+of+PRIDE - List of Best of Pride Episodes
http://www.ufc.com/media/ufc-bestofpride-109 - Best of Pride 109

As an added bonus, this is from the behind the scenes footage of Fedor watching his brother get a foot to the face. "STOP!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86K6I5mY2Y

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Shumagorath
Jun 5, 2001


Grifter posted:

You know what's cool? Theatricality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRjCfdJbb6g

Yep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABT_WdWIET0

I wish the UFC would do stuff like this but opera is probably lost on the core audience... bro.

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