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Frankenstyle posted:Hunh. So he finally figured out how to transfer human brains into robot dragon bodies? This is important. Will I finally be able to live life as my Fursona in the Promised Land of Independence, US?
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quote:while also housing a theme park and serving as a residential community. I don't think I'd feel comfortable living next to a libertarian theme park. I'd permanently be expecting to come home from work to find a rollercoaster car buried in the roof of my house.
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Is a rotten shame that this will never ever happen, and is just a scam to collect Love-Gifts of 10, 50, 250$ or More! for access to the Bekistan Newsletter and amazing work from home cure-all designed by a homeschool teacher investment opportunities THEY don't want you to know about. Too much to hope that he has the charisma and courage of his convictions that Jim Jones did.
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You know, if I were a multi-multi-billionaire, this is the sort of thing that I would seriously consider funding for the sake of humor. Then I remind myself how much tangible good one could really do with a billion dollars, and I am ashamed. Fortunately making that judgment isn't going to be a problem that presents itself to me.
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Kung Food posted:It's kind of like a liberation read a Charles Dickens novel and then though, "Yes, this is the way the world should be." Funny you should mention that... Scrooge Defended quote:No doubt Cratchit needs—i.e., wants—more, to support his family and care for Tiny Tim. But Scrooge did not force Cratchit to father children he is having difficulty supporting. If Cratchit had children while suspecting he would be unable to afford them, he, not Scrooge, is responsible for their plight. And if Cratchit didn't know how expensive they would be, why must Scrooge assume the burden of Cratchit's misjudgment? quote:Scrooge is skeptical that many would prefer death to the workhouse, and he is unmoved by talk of the workhouse's cheerlessness. He is right to be unmoved, for society's provisions for the poor must be, well, Dickensian. The more pleasant the alternatives to gainful employment, the greater will be the number of people who seek these alternatives, and the fewer there will be who engage in productive labor. If society expects anyone to work, work had better be a lot more attractive than idleness. quote:There can be no arguing with Dickens's wish to show the spiritual advantages of love. But there was no need to make the object of his lesson an entrepreneur whose ideas and practices benefit his employees, society at large, and himself.
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What does Glenn Beck have aganst Wind Energy? Do Wind turbines produce inherently communist energy or something?
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bus stop posted:So how long until this turns into the Jonestown of libertarianism. I assume as soon as they all see this isn't going to work it's going to go to hell. I'm hoping it ends more like Waco.
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AKA Pseudonym posted:expansive urban planning That's the really amazing thing to me, he is basically describing a large masterplanned new urbanist development, which I think is great, I'm a big supporter of new urbanism, I live in a new urbanist neighborhood myself. New urbanism is also everything libertarianism isn't, it's highly controlled, requires extensive urban planning and tends to be pretty restrictive, I don't understand how he has tried to turn that into a libertarian dream village.
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Numlock posted:What does Glenn Beck have aganst Wind Energy? Do Wind turbines produce inherently communist energy or something? Wind has no respect for property rights so why would Glenn encourage it's lefty pinko rear end in Independance.
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Numlock posted:What does Glenn Beck have aganst Wind Energy? Do Wind turbines produce inherently communist energy or something? Donald Trump rants about wind energy all the time too, and all I've been able to pick up from him is that they're noisy and unpleasant to look at (which also describes Beck and Trump, so make of that what you want).
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Didn't libertarians already try to build some kind of community... The way I remember it, they were all going to buy property in Rhode Island or something and move there to try and become a majority in the area? Something Awfuls very own Remedial had actually like, lived there... Or something, if I remember correctly.
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Goldline changed everything. It destroyed our bodies, our minds. We couldn't handle it. Best friends butchering one another, fiat currencies strangled in cribs. The whole city went to hell.
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BulletRiddled posted:all I've been able to pick up from him is that they're noisy and unpleasant to look at I've never understood why all the people ranting about windmills being ugly never seemed to have a problem with electricity pylons and telegraph poles, draping miles and miles of cable across the countryside. None of them ever previously said poo poo about that.
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soy posted:Didn't libertarians already try to build some kind of community... The way I remember it, they were all going to buy property in Rhode Island or something and move there to try and become a majority in the area? The Free State Project? That is where a bunch of fat internet libertarians threatened to move to New Hampshire (on public roads with public sewer) and vote themselves lower taxes. Turns out there aren't enough fat internet libertarians that can afford to move to New Hampshire.
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Slo-Tek posted:The Free State Project? Yeah, that's it. I guess a few did, haha god libertarians are the literal worst.
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Pipski posted:I've never understood why all the people ranting about windmills being ugly never seemed to have a problem with electricity pylons and telegraph poles, draping miles and miles of cable across the countryside. None of them ever previously said poo poo about that. Plus they are wrong, wind turbines are beautiful, graceful kenetic sculptures, if they wanted to put some up by me I would welcome them and lobby to have them put where I can see them outside my window.
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So The Gap is bad...what about Old Navy?
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Slo-Tek posted:The Free State Project? Somebody from New Hampshire needs to post a trip report on this. My understanding is that there are about 100 die hards and that everyone hates them and some businesses even refuse to serve them.
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mdemone posted:Then I remind myself how much tangible good one could really do with a billion dollars, and I am ashamed. Think of a contagious viral or parasitic disease. I don't know...say malaria, or whooping cough, or influenza, or dysentery. Imagine all the people in the world who die from that disease. Now halve that number. That's what you can do with a billion dollars. But of course, that's tantamount to communism, developing and handing out vaccines and water purifiers to people you've never met. Clearly, all those babies who die should have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and developed a cure while still in the womb, and if they perish before reaching their first birthday it's their own fault. However, getting together a huge number of libertarians and sending them to their own private city to go all feudal on each other may actually be worth the billions it will cost, by removing these people from public discourse and therefore advancing humanitarian causes by the absence of their opinions. Then again, their children are the ones who will be in need of aid, 20 years down the track when they're all disease-ridden and malnourished and come swarming out as refugees.
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Glenn Beck should create a vault like in Fallout. I really don't think it would be too hard to get a significant number of conservatives and libertarians to seal themselves away from society voluntarily and everyone would win. You would just have to tempt them with the right policies. Maybe a vault based on pure unfettered Capitalism, where everyone is given a standard issue hand gun and/or automatic rifle upon entry, and the culture is permanently fixed on 1950s style living with no minorities allowed to enter and no one being allowed to leave for X amount of years. When the vault would open, assuming there wasn't maybe a lone survivor or two hiding at the exit clawing to escape and tell the terrifying story of Libertopia, it would be pretty interesting for archaeologists to go in and figure out just how, when, and why the society died off. Any video surveillance of the place at the end I imagine would resemble the death orgy from Event Horizon.
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I wasn't aware that building a cult compound was legal, let alone newsworthy.
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himajinga posted:Goldline changed everything. It destroyed our bodies, our minds. We couldn't handle it. Best friends butchering one another, fiat currencies strangled in cribs. The whole city went to hell. Would be a great type of horror movie with people climbing of the walls of Beckistan and seeing all the chaos brought by belief in free market gospel. I'm not sure a society based on worshiping greed and also FYGM would make any sort of a functional city state.
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C'mon Goons, its time we put our money together to build a giant wall to block out the sun from Beckistan. Then we'll paint a giant goatse mural on the wall. The free market reigns  .
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Pipski posted:I've never understood why all the people ranting about windmills being ugly never seemed to have a problem with electricity pylons and telegraph poles, draping miles and miles of cable across the countryside. None of them ever previously said poo poo about that. Plus the irony of this being said by a guy who builds skyscrapers and golf courses for a living. Turbines may not be the prettiest thing in the world, but they're a hell of a lot nicer than giant power plants that belch smoke and have constant streams of trucks hauling material in and out.
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BulletRiddled posted:all I've been able to pick up from him is that they're noisy and unpleasant to look at Aside from being gorgeous, every windmill I've ever seen has been eerily quiet. It really seems like something that big should make more noise when you're standing underneath it.
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Three Olives posted:At the center - in the middle of the lake that is itself larger than all of Disney Land - Beck (with the help of David Barton) will create a massive "national archive"/learning center where people can send their children to be "deprogrammed" and elected officials can come to learn "the truth." The Glenn Beck center for kids who can't read good and who wanna learn to do other stuff good too?
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Torka posted:Who's going to sweep the floors and clean the toilets in this conclave of randian supermen? The free market will provide them with all the poor people they need to deal with that sort of thing! This will turn into just another gated community for rich people and be hailed as a success by other rich people and idiots convinced that they too will someday be rich enough to live there. What could be more American?
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Prettz posted:This thread would be a great opportunity for someone to re-post those stories. Last time someone posted them I forgot to save them. They have been compiled in a PDF - "In Golden Waters - Tales from the Seastead". http://www.mediafire.com/view/?tvlxdb9f274stpt
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Mr.48 posted:The free market will provide them with all the poor people they need to deal with that sort of thing! This will turn into just another gated community for rich people and be hailed as a success by other rich people and idiots convinced that they too will someday be rich enough to live there. I was thinking "What distinguishes this from any other gated community" except that real rich people don't buy into Beck stupidity, so the the marks won't have the kind of money it takes to maintain a healthy au pair and lawn service ecosystem. Like I said, won't get built because the point isn't to sell a plot in a planned community, the point is to sell access to the newsletter, then sell the newsletter mailing list to the homeopathic penis pill companies. The executives of the homeopathic penis pill companies will live in regular gated communities, surrounded by real rich people...and all the unlucky sperm club members it takes to keep the pedigree dogshit off the marquettery floors of your mansion.
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Its everything I hoped it would be.  I was thinking Glenn's best days were behind him once he was kicked off Fox News Channel.
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rock x hardplace posted:The Glenn Beck center for kids who can't read good and who wanna learn to do other stuff good too? I assume it will be   
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Slo-Tek posted:I was thinking "What distinguishes this from any other gated community" except that real rich people don't buy into Beck stupidity, so the the marks won't have the kind of money it takes to maintain a healthy au pair and lawn service ecosystem. I know quite a few people who could be classified as rich who would jump on this in an instant, because "gently caress the government taking my money" and "if poor people want more money why dont they just get jobs? Ugh I wish I could live in a place without them."
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What's to stop Beckistan from literally using slave labor? Certainly not some pesky government trying to hold them back. If a clever entrepreneur wants to kidnap people from surrounding socialist towns and use them as slave labor in Glorious Beckistan, then he should be rewarded for his good business sense. What manual labor shortage?
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BulletRiddled posted:Plus the irony of this being said by a guy who builds skyscrapers and golf courses for a living. Here in Australia there's been a lot of NIMBY attitude regarding wind turbines in the last decade. I can't remember the exact symptoms of the turbines' constant "thump thump", but there were claims of insomnia and cows getting all confused and such. Of course, they should try living in the Latrobe Valley next to what has often been quoted as possibly the most polluting coal power station in the world (per unit energy). Asthma central over there. I bet if you lived anywhere near a coal power plant, you'd rejoice with every new wind tower that was built, because it means that many less tons of coal getting burnt and leading you to an early grave. Or if you lived in Bangladesh or a pacific island nation, because it'd mean that many more square centimetres of land you have to physically stand on. Edit: on topic, isn't slave labour or virtual slave labour the inevitable result when there are no big government protections? I know skilled workers can sometimes form unions and force employers to provide better conditions, because otherwise they won't do work and there's no one else to do the work (you can't bring in scabs for every job), but even that is fraught with risk. IronClaymore fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2013 around 00:54 |
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Numlock posted:What does Glenn Beck have aganst Wind Energy? Do Wind turbines produce inherently communist energy or something? Because he's literally a Captain Planet villain and will not tolerate anything good, even if it helps him.
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There was another goon-made story of a perfect libertarian society where they talked about having to start the day off by hooking up their sewer line then fighting their way past toll-booth after toll-booth until they were forced to engage in a fight to the death at the final one. The story ends years later when the main character is leading a cannibal commune in a cave. Does anyone have that one? Because that's my favorite libertarian story.
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The Bible posted:Because he's literally a Captain Planet villain and will not tolerate anything good, even if it helps him. Does that mean he is going to grow a Fu Manchu instead of a hitler stash?
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Adventure Pigeon posted:Does anyone have that one? Because that's my favorite libertarian story. aaaaand here you go: http://welp.gs/~harik/libertopia.html
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Adventure Pigeon posted:There was another goon-made story of a perfect libertarian society where they talked about having to start the day off by hooking up their sewer line then fighting their way past toll-booth after toll-booth until they were forced to engage in a fight to the death at the final one. The story ends years later when the main character is leading a cannibal commune in a cave. Does anyone have that one? Because that's my favorite libertarian story. I remember the story, but have no idea how to go about finding it  Edit: ^^^^Nevermind!
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Mr.48 posted:I know quite a few people who could be classified as rich who would jump on this in an instant, because "gently caress the government taking my money" and "if poor people want more money why dont they just get jobs? Ugh I wish I could live in a place without them." My next door neighbor is a huge teabagger, she hosts local meetings and everything, she also pays $1,100 a month just in HOA fees so someone can constantly monitor her by camera and RFID and tell her that her daugher's dog isn't allowed in the building while a board micromanages almost all of her living besides decor choices that can't be easily viewed by the window. She also lives in a PID which she pays extra taxes to the city to have more cops and street cleanings and public works projects in just her neighborhood. That's what is so weird about so many affluent "libertarians", they have such a hard on for authoritarianism, government, structure and services. Actually I guess it isn't weird, it's just so transparent that she is so for it, absolutely loves it, just as long as she doesn't have to move an inch to offer anything close to a tiny, tiny portion of it for poor people.
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