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Hey goon DP is doing a trip report of Survivor 25 despite never having seen an episode of Survivor before, it's pretty funny stuff, check it out: Episode 1, Episode 2 ![]() ![]() Ahhhhh poo poo it's Survivor time Hey so Probst said 26 was better than 25. 25 was really, really really loving good. Maybe this season will be awesome? At the very least, it should be an entertaining trainwreck. But yeah so okay let's get down to it. -Gimmick-light season (beyond the obvious one of it being half an All-Stars season). No big stunt casting, no huge twists, just two tribes, one of vets and one of newbies. -That being said the major gimmick of the All-Stars seems to be "really bad players". Most of these players were goats, crazy, awful people, or all three in their respective seasons and we actually have a first boot returner for the first time ever. So yeah, not exactly a AAA bench. However, they were all highly entertaining players, or at least most of them, so at the very least from a reality tv drama standpoint this season should be great. - New season starts Wednesday, February 13 8 pm Eastern. FANS (aka Gota) Reynold Toepfer (30) ![]() Current Residence: San Francisco, Calif. Occupation: Real Estate Sales Inspiration in Life: Tom Brady, because he is the ultimate competitor and always brings out the absolute best of anyone who plays with him. He displays such a calm poise in the most intense, stressful situations, and will never take credit for the victories he has led. ![]() SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Physically, I think I can perform in challenges like Colby Donaldson. Socially, I flirt like Parvati Shallow and can handle intense confrontational situations with a smile on my face. And, I’m a bit like Todd Herzog where I can play into people’s egos to keep them blind to my agenda. Occupation's Opinion (Occupinion?): Despite the dumb Tom Brady comment (seriously, never taking credit for the victories he has led? The gently caress?) This guy seems like a legit fan, he's dropping old old rear end Survivor knowledge. Still getting some douche vibes off him, though. Shamar Thomas (27) ![]() Current Residence: Brooklyn, N.Y. Occupation: Iraq War Veteran (Occupation Note: Speaking AS an Iraq War Veteran, that's not a loving job, dude. If it is I most certainly want to be employed as one.) SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Rupert – because he played the game with honor. ( Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: My motivation for being on the show is to bring awareness to economical/social injustices and to bring honor and respect back to my community while inspiring the forgotten. ( Occupinion: I like him. Maybe because of the vet connection, maybe because I'm willing to buy he actually does want to bring awareness to economic/social injustices, as seen in this viral video wherein he rips OWS police a new rear end in a top hat for police brutality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEHcOc0Sys But I like him. Might be my fan pony. (Oh also he's responsible for the thread title, in case you were wondering) Michael Snow (44) ![]() Current Residence: New York, N.Y. Occupation: Event Planner SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Cirie and Rob Cesternino – Even though neither of them won, they are my 2 favorites. I relate to their game of listening, charming with humor and not acting like a jerk. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: I’m playing to win it. Why You Think You’ll “Survive” SURVIVOR: I’m patient, a problem solver (I do it for a living) and a hard worker. Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR: I possess a strong social game. I will bond with my tribe long enough to establish solid relationships, until I have to break them and vote them out. I come across as enthusiastic and easy going, but I have a focus and intensity that is only apparent when I need them. I am resilient and surprisingly firm in my decision making. Occupinion: Yeah, sorry Lamar but this guy's my pony. Holy poo poo I love this dude. His bio started out boring but as it continued it was like he was describing the Survivor thread's dream competitor. Plus he compared himself to relative unknowns that are strategic geniuses as opposed to Boston Rob, Russell, Parvati etc. Dude's legit. Alexandra “Allie” Pohevitz (25) ![]() Current Residence: Oceanside, N.Y. Occupation: Bartender Pet Peeves: I hate dirty people. I don’t mind if you are messy and leave clothes or papers around but if you drop food, clean it up. If you use a cup, wash it out. If you go to the bathroom, wash your hands! I also get annoyed with people who can’t keep their stories straight. I don’t even mind if you lie to me, just keep track of your lies, you fool. If You Could Have 3 Things on The Island What Would They Be and Why? 1) Eyeliner – so I could be prettier than I already am. 2) Hair detangle. 3) Crest white strips (see a theme?) SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Jenna Morasca - because I think she was very intelligent. She knew when to use sex appeal, when to play dumb, when to win and when to be smart. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: Anyone on Survivor who says that money is not the number one motivating factor is either a liar or completely brain-dead. The money is absolutely my motivation. Occupinion: She is a very, very pretty lady. Her answers unimpressed me, though, despite dropping the Amazon ref. Probably a legit fan too. Er, actually I reread her bio and just now included the Pet Peeves portion because her observation about lying is very interesting. At the very least if she makes the jury she probably will be not-bitter. Julia Landauer (21) ![]() Current Residence: Stanford, Calif. Occupation: Racecar Driver. Personal Claim to Fame: I’m most proud of becoming the first female champion in the Skip Barber Racing Series. In its 31 year history the series never saw a female champion, and I made that accomplishment when I was 14. Pet Peeves: Slow drivers in the left lane. SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Kim Spradlin, because she was very strategic, had few enemies and was a physical threat, all while maintaining her composure. Occupinion: She seemed pretty boilerplate and the closest this season has to a "stuntcasted" tribe member. I'm pretty much indifferent to her, although being the first female champion of any sport competition is always pretty impressive, moreso that she did it in her early teens. Edward “Eddie” Fox (23) ![]() Current Residence: East Brunswick, N.J. Occupation: Fireman/EMT If You Could Have 3 Things on The Island What Would They Be and Why? 1) Sneakers for moving faster and easier. 2) Some type of cutting tool to make hunting and building shelter easier. 3) A sleeping bag. You have to stay warm and comfortable to be well rested. Occupinion: He's pretty loving dull on the bio, hence why I copy-pasted so little of it outside his 3 Things answer, which was remarkably logical. I imagine he's going to be the quiet, no-nonsense enforcer for whoever the mastermind player is- think Boston Rob's Grant in RI. Hope Driskill (23) ![]() Current Residence: Jefferson City, Mo. Occupation: Pre Law Student Personal Claim to Fame: Graduating summa cum laude and with general honors from the University of Missouri in May of 2012. SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Andrea Boehlke, Brenda Lowe and Parvati Shallow because they are attractive, social, personable, but mentally and physically strong. Occupinion: Well, she's basically a loving genius, hopefully this translates to being good strategically. Also, protip Hope: Brenda wasn't any of those things. Also yet another very pretty lady. Matt Bischoff (38) ![]() Current Residence: Cincinnati, Ohio Occupation: BMX Bike Sales Inspiration in Life: Hans Langseth – he grew the longest beard ever at 17.5 feet long. He pretty much rules my life. All hail long beards! Hobbies: Beards, singing in a band and BMX. Pet Peeves: Uptight people with no sense of humor, people at gas stations that hold up the line to buy lotto tickets and cigarettes and bad tippers. SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Rupert – he has a big heart and loved to play the game. His teddy bear personality and tough looks remind me of myself. Also, Lex - he was a cool guy, a smart, down to earth dude with a band and lots of tattoos. Occupinion: First off, HOLY gently caress LOOK AT THAT loving BEARD Sherri Biethman (41) ![]() Current Residence: Boise, Idaho Occupation: Fast Food Franchisee Personal Claim to Fame: Finding the right diagnosis for my autistic son, Colby ( )SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Parvati – I have a strong personality and lots of charm. Some people will see that as a threat so I will have to get rid of them first. Occupinion: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING. Also, wouldn't the right diagnosis for your autistic son be...autism? Does she mean what kind? I just...huh? Laura Alexander (23) ![]() Current Residence: Washington, D.C. Occupation: Administrative Officer Personal Claim to Fame: I am most proud of climbing Mt. Toubkal, the highest peak in North Africa. If You Could Have 3 Things on The Island What Would They Be and Why? I’m not very sentimental. SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: I relate to Brenda Lowe, Parvati Shallow and Jenna Morasca because they were strategically strong women. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: I’m completely obsessed with Survivor and I want to win a million dollars. Why You Think You’ll “Survive” SURVIVOR: I think I will kick butt on the challenge puzzles. I might be small but I have a lot of fire in me. I’ll also work hard around camp – you won’t find me picking my sorority sister’s armpit hair. Occupinion: Where did this stupid loving meme about Brenda being strategically brilliant start? BRENDA WAS NOT A STRATEGIC MASTERMIND. SHE DID NOTHING AT loving ALL DESPITE HAVING COMPLETE AND UTTER CONTROL OF HER TRIBE AND BEING WARNED BY HER ALLIANCEMATES CONSTANTLY THAT THE TRIBE WAS GETTING MUTINOUS. SHE SAT ON HER HANDS FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS FOR NO loving REASON. Beyond that, Laura is really really REALLY loving rad. I hope she goes far. FAVORITES (aka Bikal) Andrea Boehlke (23) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: Redemption Island – 13th castaway voted out/ 8th Jury Member Current Residence: New York, N.Y. Occupation: Entertainment Host and Writer Personal Claim to Fame: Moving to New York from Wisconsin on a whim and I’m still here! SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: I guess I’m a smidge like Stephenie LaGrossa when it comes to being a force in challenges and being a bit of a tomboy. Why Did She Lose Her Season? She got the bad luck of choosing as an alliance mate a stupid loving moron who screwed her over not once, but twice. After he was voted out for the first time it was pretty much just a matter of time until she went. She basically made a massive, almost unavoidable early game mistake which cost her any chance of being able to pull out a win in the finals. Is She a Good Player? I think so. Like she described in her bio she was a force in early-game challenges, she always worked her rear end off in camp life, held her tongue when she needed to, didn't really piss anyone off, and was constantly trying to raise herself out of her (hopeless) situation strategically. Time will tell, but in my opinion her failure in RI was from being screwed from the start, not from any really major error on her part. Brandon Hantz (21) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: South Pacific – 15th castaway voted out/7th Jury Member Current Residence: Katy, Texas Occupation: Chemical Disposal Inspiration in Life: Jesus Christ (NO, REALLY?!!?!?!!!?!?!?!) 3 Words to Describe You: Sexy, crazy fun and loyal. (1/2 out of 3 ain't bad. Also not three words, dipshit) Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR: I almost was the Sole Survivor but I won’t make the same mistakes again. Why Did He Lose His Season? Being a crazy, paranoid, delusional, fundie, sexist, misogynist idiot will do that. Is He a Good Player? Ahahahahahahah NO. Also, I love that his answer to "Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR" is basically "I think I will be the Sole Survivor". Brenda Lowe (30) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: Nicaragua – 11th castaway voted out/3rd Jury Member Current Residence: Miami, Fla. Occupation: Paddleboard Co. Owner SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Ozzy Lusth – young, athletic, driven and focused. Why Did She Lose Her Season? She was in the majority alliance, in charge of that majority alliance, and she spent that time whilst in control sitting on her hands and doing nothing. This eventually lead to a mutiny as the outcasts and bottom of the totem-pole-ers teamed up and overthrew the balance of power. She was warned all of this was happening days and days before said events happened and responded by doing...absolutely nothing. See a trend? Is She a Good Player? In my opinion, no. She's a weaker, unimaginative, Parvati. Corinne Kaplan (33) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: Gabon – 12th castaway voted out/4th Jury Member Current Residence: Los Angeles Occupation: Clinical Consultant Inspiration in Life: This implies I want to “be like” someone else - I don’t. Though I do have role models, like my parents. My father taught me that life isn’t fair, and you have to work hard for what you want. My mother taught me the alternative is you can marry the guy who does all that. Both lessons are equally important to me. Pet Peeves: So called “actors” living in Hollywood, reality show losers ( )SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Randy Bailey from “Survivor: Gabon.” Hands down, no one else even comes close. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: I ran out of bar stories to tell from the first go-round. Why Did She Lose Her Season? Propaganda Machine says: She felt entitled within her day one alliance and preferred bullying people to playing Survivor. Is She a Good Player? Propaganda Machine says: Hell to the no. Dawn Meehan (42) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: South Pacific – 11th castaway voted off/3rd Jury Member Current Residence: South Jordan, Utah Occupation: English Professor SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Strong females who played a physical and strategic game – Kim Spradlin and Stephenie LaGrossa. (note this is completely emphatically NOT TRUE) Why Did She Lose Her Season? Cochran flipped on her alliance to prevent drawing rocks and her alliance got Pagonged. Is She a Good Player? Uh...sorta, but not really? She has no physical game whatsoever, had a mini-breakdown and almost quit her first go-round, and her strategic game was mediocre at best, but she was able to be really good at 1) being seen as no threat to anyone ever 2) being seen as completely trustworthy 3) never pissing anyone off. So...she'd be a good UTR player the second go-round, but that's it, really. Francesqua Hogi (38) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: Redemption Island – 1st castaway voted out Current Residence: Brooklyn, N.Y. Occupation: Attorney Personal Claim to Fame: I climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro. (holy gently caress) Pet Peeves: Liars, delusional people who only think about themselves and all around inconsiderate people make me crazy! SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: The most awesome contestant you can think of who went out early. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: Two reasons - money and redemption. Why You Think You’ll “Survive” SURVIVOR: I'm strong. Also, not afraid of snakes or spiders. Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR: I’m tenacious. Why Did She Lose Her Season? Literally being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Kristina approached her, told her she had the idol, Phillip was near and overheard, Phillip was then forced to be drawn into the alliance, they plotted to blindside Rob, Phillip then went to TC and proceeded to completely out his entire alliance live, in one of the most hilarious tribals ever, Rob successfully split the votes flushing the idol which Kristina played, resulting in Franchesca being voted out. God drat was the first episode of Survivor: RI so loving great Is She a Good Player? Hard to tell. She was only in one episode and got voted out due to circumstances completely beyond her control, but according to Boston Rob she was his biggest threat to win during the entire season. Not anything else, not a single other player or move was as big a threat as her. B-Rob's usually a pretty good judge of talent so I'm going with yes, she is a "good" player. John Cochran (25) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: South Pacific – 13th castaway voted out/5th Jury Member Current Residence: Washington, D.C. Occupation: Harvard Law Student Personal Claim to Fame: Flipping on my tribe, being reluctant to take off my shirt on day one of Survivor: South Pacific. SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: I have the humor of Rob Cesternino, the intelligence of Yul Kwon and the candor of Jonathan Penner. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: I love Survivor! I’ve watched it, talked about it, studied it, written about it and dreamt about it for half my life. Why You Think You’ll “Survive” SURVIVOR: I’m too passionate about Survivor to let harsh elements, starvation, sleep deprivation and abrasive tribe mates deter me from lasting all 39 days. Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR: Having played once before, I know the sorts of mistakes I’m susceptible to making. I didn’t win the last time I played and I have no desire to repeat history. I still know more about Survivor than virtually anyone else who’s ever played the game. Now I feel more mentally and psychologically prepared to put my theoretical knowledge of the game into practice. Why Did He Lose His Season? Although his flip was justified in a strategic (gently caress drawing rocks, seriously) and personal (those guys were assholes) sense, it won him no favors with either alliance. Before that though he was always pretty low on the totem pole due to his atrocious social game and complete lack of physical ability (as all true goons should be ), so he was kinda doomed from the start.Is He a Good Player? No, not really. His "Survivor Contestant You Are Most Like" answer is pretty much a spot-on assessment of himself, he just failed to mention how his social game is not like theirs'- that is to say, it's really, really bad. Which pretty much makes all of his strategic genius and genuinely good sense of humor moot, since he can't connect with anyone very well. But we'll never judge him! Come back Cochran, the goons miss you!!!! (note I am serious, Cochran please start posting again if you're reading this) Erik Reichenbach (27) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: Micronesia – 13th castaway voted out/6th Jury Member Current Residence: Santa Clarita, Calif. Occupation: Comic Book Artist Personal Claim to Fame: Survivor: Micronesia SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Ozzy – I am great at challenges too! Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: To show everyone that I am really not dumb, and in actuality I am a smart, funny guy who just does things in a different way. Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR: I adapt to working with different personalities easily and I have enough of an understanding of the game to improvise if necessary. Why Did He Lose His Season? Because he made the single stupidest move in Survivor history ever. Is He a Good Player? On one hand, his physical game was great, he was a super nice guy, had a great personality, and everyone liked him. On the other, he made the single stupidest move in Survivor history ever. So...yeah, he's probably not good, no. Although his Bio is pretty entertainingly self-deprecating and he seems to have recognized his mistakes (his answer to the Sole Survivor question was particularly insightful), so there's that. Phillip Sheppard (54) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: Redemption Island – Made it to the final 3 Current Residence: Santa Monica, Calif. Occupation: Chief Executive Officer of Enter Software Sales Personal Claim to Fame: Having served as a soldier in the U.S Army and being a Special Agent. Pet Peeves: People who act like they know everything and do nothing. Wait wait wait wait wait. Let me just repeat that. Pet Peeves: People who act like they know everything and do nothing. SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: Smart players – Boston Rob, Andrea Boehlke and John Cochran. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: To win one million dollars and outwit the other contestants again. Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR: I am smart, can read people well, and I finished 2nd last time around as the The Specialist. Why Did He Lose His Season? Nobody was going to win against Rob, but Phillip was basically the goatiest goat to have ever goated and spent all of his time either being an rear end in a top hat to everyone, being crazy as loving poo poo, smugly telling others what to do, or nothing whatsoever. Is He a Good Player? On paper, hell the gently caress no. His physical, social and strategic games were some of the worst the game's ever seen. However, his play as the mega-super-goat got him $100,000 for second place, and he's said after the fact that he knew once Rob established control that he (Phillip) had no chance to overthrow him so the entire goat thing was an act. If that's true, Phillip's one of the most brilliant players to have ever played the game. I'll leave the decision over whether or not his goat act in RI was intentional or not up to you. Malcolm Freberg (25) ![]() Previous Season: Survivor: Philippines – 15th castaway voted off/8th Jury member Current Residence: Hermosa Beach, Calif. Occupation: Bartender Personal Claim to Fame: (be prepared for the best response to any Survivor pre-interview question, ever, of all time. this is the best bio response I've ever read ever. it is amazing.) Once I spent over a month with Abi-Maria Gomes, and I'm still considered legally sane by the state of California. Pet Peeves: (be prepared for the second-best response to any Survivor pre-interview question, ever, of all time. it is also amazing.) Ex-TV stars Words to Describe You: Charming, brilliant and slightly-less cocky than the last time I did this. SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: This feels like a trick question. Reason for Being on SURVIVOR: I'm a super-fan of the show. Getting to do it once was incredible. To get a second chance… How could anyone say no? Why You Think You’ll “Survive” SURVIVOR: Experience plays a huge roll in any situation in life. I made it through 38 days the first time so I have to like my survival odds the second time around. Oh, and I'm also smart, athletic and nice to look at. Why You Think You Will Be the Sole SURVIVOR: You play the game to win the game. I'm not on Survivor to “have a life-changing experience” or “grow as a person” or “see how far I can make it.” Those things may happen, but that's not the reason I'm out there. The best thing I have going for me is my single-mindedness and focus towards a single goal: a seven-digit bank account. ~Malcolm~ :allears: Why Did He Lose His Season? He was doomed from the moment he lost the final immunity challenge, in retrospect, since even if he made the F3 he STILL would've lost to Denise, but his biggest and really, only blunder the entire game was not making an F2 agreement with Denise- or even lying about it and saying "Yes, I will go to the final two with you". Is He a Good Player? Yes. Emphatically and with no reservations yes. He has a great social, great (one of the best of all time) physical and brilliant strategic game. He's a fantastic, fantastic player that deservedly lost his season. That's how good Philippines was, that even a guy as good as Malcolm deserved his fourth-place finish. Occupation fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2013 around 15:30 |
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SURVIVOR NEWBIES GUIDE HELP I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS 'SURVIVOR' PLEASE INFORM ME OF WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT Welcome to the Survivor thread. Inside, we discuss the current season of Survivor; usually, bitch about how this season isn't very good; and, fondly remember, and argue about the relative quality of, previous seasons of Survivor: probably the greatest reality competition show ever except for maybe Amazing Race or Top Chef. Survivor's premise: A group of 18 to 20 or so contestants, from all walks of life, are stuck on a (usually tropical) remote paradise and forced to live together for 39 days; gathering their own food, building their own shelter, and purifying their own water. Most of the time (but not always) they group is split into two opposing, equal teams, called tribes. (Some seasons have more than two tribes-as many as four- but no matter how many tribes there are, each tribe has the same number of contestants at the start.) The tribes must work together to form a community, in the hopes of one contestant becoming the Sole Survivor and winning one million dollars. A typical Survivor season has three "phases", all of differing lengths.
Man this show sounds complicated. Nah it really isn't. It's basically Lying: The Game; the players attempt to form alliances that are strong enough so that whenever they're forced to vote someone out, their names aren't on the chopping block. Usually this is done via lying and manipulation. That's basically it. The genius of the show is the jury: the jury makes it so regardless of how well an individual player does, if they're a cutthroat, lying, evil, bastard who makes life hell for everyone else they won't win the money (cough cough Russell). Therefore, a major part of the show is being able to appease and placate people who will eventually end up eliminated, usually by the player him or herself. It creates a HUGE strategy component to the game and is why the show is so unique and awesome. When does this show air Usually twice a year, two seasons: Once during September (usually runs for about 15 episodes, ends around Christmas), and once during February (also runs for about 15 episodes, ending mid-May). Both seasons of Survivor that air in a television season are usually filmed-back-to-back and more recently, in the same location to save on location filming. Oh this show sounds rad what should I watch The "recommended" watch order of the "best" seasons of Survivor, if you have a shitload of time and want to watch the show arc and become more and more strategic over time: Borneo (season 1), Australia (season 2), Marquesas (season 4), The Amazon (season 6), Pearl Islands (season 7), All-Stars (season 8), Vanuatu (season 9), Palau (season 10), Guatemala (season 11), Panama (season 12), Cook Islands (season 13), China (season 15), Micronesia- Fans v. Favorites (season 16), Tocantins (season 18), Samoa (season 19), Heroes v. Villains (season 20), Redemption Island (season 22), Philippines (season 25). Why:
Wow that's a lot of show to watch. Abridge it? Yeah sure. Watch China, Tocantins, Samoa, or Cook Islands, they're what the Survivor thread considers the best seasons with no returning players. Fans v. Favorites and Heroes v. Villains are the best seasons of Survivor overall; however, a lot of their appeal is in knowing the characters who are participating from their seasons. In other words, you'll have to watch everything I listed to get the full effect of the greatness of Micronesia/ HvV. Also, if you're at all interested in what non-goons have to say Dalton Ross and Jeff Probst rank the Survivor seasons for you. But why would you do that? Survivor goons know best Glossary of Terms The Survivor thread can get really, really jargony from time to time because we're all a bunch of Survivor spergs who just use a ton of shorthand. Here's what they mean: Pagonged: In the first-ever season of Survivor, the Tagi tribe ended up with more players than the Pagong tribe going into the merge and ended up voting tribal lines, eliminating all members of the Pagong tribe from the game before voting themselves out. This revolutionary strategy has been copied in pretty much every Survivor since, and when it's successful it's called a "Pagonging", in honor of the eliminated tribe. It's the reason that it's so important to win immunity challenges pre-merge- usually both tribes enter the merge and vote tribal lines, so whichever team enters the merge with more players usually ends up the one which "wins". Ulonged: In Palau, the Ulong tribe didn't win a single immunity challenge and kept on voting out the wrong players (usually their strongest or smartest), so it all snowballed into them losing every single immunity challenge pre-merge. Only Stephanie survived from the Ulong tribe to get "conquered" by the opposing tribe and eventually voted out. We now speculate as to whether or not a tribe that does miserably in the early going and racks up a bunch of early game losses will be "Ulonged"- will lose every single immunity challenge. HII (Hidden Immunity Idol): Introduced in Guatemala, the HII was an object hidden at camp or Exile Island, that when found and played (usually after a series of clues leading to the HII's location were given) could prevent a player from going home that night. It could only be used once. Supposed to delay or gently caress up Pagongings, initially, it was really weak- it had to be played before the votes were cast, so what ended up happening was everyone switched their votes to someone else in the alliance they were targeting and the play continued as normal. Then, in Cook Islands the HII was revamped to be obscenely strong- it had to be played after the votes were read (the player with the next-most votes would go home if the player with the most votes played the HII), which meant Yul just told everyone that he had the idol and would play it for his alliance members, making his core alliance untouchable as everyone else ended up being voted out, afraid of being targeted by his alliance. After Cook Islands the HII's rules were again revamped to what they are now, that it has to be played after the votes are cast but before they are read- basically, if it's played right can really change the game but it's not overpowerful nonsense like it was in CI. Used to be only one HII in the game, usually at Exile Island, now there is one HII for each tribe, usually located at their camp. Double boot: Usually early on into a Survivor season, there will be an episode where both tribes have to eliminate a tribe member (both go to tribal council), and the only challenge of the episode is either for individual immunity or for reward. Called a double boot episode when it happens. Double elimination: A twist featured at the end of an episode of Survivor is that the tribe that lost the immunity challenge, unbeknownst to them, has to eliminate not one but two members. Usually revealed after the tribe has finished voting out a tribemate, they are usually given no time to deliberate and must vote again immediately. Purple rocks: In the event of a tie at Tribal Council, there is a revote, with only the people receiving the most votes being eligible to receive votes during that revote. If the revote also ends in a tie, Survivors draw rocks, with the exception of the players receiving votes and any players with immunity. Whichever player draws the differently coloured rock is eliminated from the game. It's happened once before, and the differently coloured rock was purple. This is a powerful incentive for players to avoid ties, as it takes players' fates out of their hands and puts it in the hands of chance, while ensuring that three of the most powerful players in the game remain in it. It means that each individual player sees a strong reason to flip from his or her alliance, and it's worked. Ties have largely been avoided for the past 22 seasons or so. This is true at every tribal council but the Final Four. The math for the purple rocks doesn't work where there are only 4 players left - take away the immune player and the players receiving votes, and there is only one player left to draw rocks. Unfortunately, production only realized this didn't work after going through with it once, in Survivor Marquesas. Now, ties at Final Four are resolved with a challenge between the tied players, usually a fire-making challenge. (All credit goes to Pinterest Mom for this entry) Blindside: When a tribal council seems to be set up so one or one of two possible players are getting eliminated, but somehow either a secret coalition or a surprising idol play makes it so someone else who nobody in the tribe suspected of being eliminated gets eliminated, it's called a "blindside". Usually sets up hilarious reaction gifs that the thread reposts infinitely. Eel/Shambo.gif: Totally awesome! Make sure to ask the thread if you're new all about it. The results will totally surprise you! Hantzed: Named after Russell Hantz from Samoa's proclivities to find idols without clues, it's now used as a term to describe a player who looks for HIIs without a clue, or a player who accomplishes said feat. Splitting votes/Voodoo strategy: Originating in Cook Islands by noted crazy person and proto-Coach Cao Boi, the idea of an alliance that splits its votes between two members to "out" the idol. For instance, if an alliance has 6 members to an opposing alliance's 3, but one person in the 3 has an HII, the alliance would voted 3 for one member in the alliance and 3 for another, so even if the idol is played one of the members of the alliance is voted out (since it'd be a 3/3/3 tie, the idol would eliminate 3 votes for one member which would result in a 3/3 tie and a revote). It's extremely risky, and we went through a long eight-season stretch of it backfiring on the majority alliance every single time it was used. In the last five seasons, though, it's been used very frequently, up to three times a season, and has worked almost every single time. It's an example of the Survivor metagame evolving and players wisening up to new tactics. (All credit goes to Pinterest Mom for this entry) Who the gently caress is Kelly: Usually anybody named Kelly in any season of Survivor will be a totally generic, personality-less automaton, usually the boring cheerleader type. Someone will post "Who the gently caress is Kelly" after cast announcements if the name Kelly is included because it's like so funny or something. You know how goons are. Pony/Poison: Usually after cast announcements, but before the season airs, thread members will pick a "Pony" (someone who they think will be awesome and totally win) and a "Poison" (someone who they think will suck and be an annoying rear end in a top hat and will root to lose). Thread ponies are usually anybody who's intelligent or seems to be a hardcore Survivor fan, and thread poisons are people who look or sound stupid, racists, morons, and type-A brodudes (because we're all fat, ugly goons). Challenge beast/challenge monster: A person who's really physically adept and capable, who wins challenges for their team almost single-handedly. Usually kept around until right before or right after the merge so they don't go one a "challenge run" and make the final two/three and win based on sheer physical strength. Noted challenge beasts include Ozzy and JT. Provider: Usually an older dude who's really good at hunting and working who thinks, foolishly, that their "tribe value" will somehow save him from elimination- because then who will get the tribe food/firewood then, huh?! Usually really stupid and naive. Rupert is the king of this type of player. Mastermind/puppetmaster: The strategic guy in the tribe. Usually the one who facilitates blindsides and backstabbings. If they make it to the FTC they're always in danger of being bitter juried out of a win. Russell is the premier mastermind player, but Yul and Chris are also notable. Under the radar: The most common strategy of the game currently, reliant on letting the mastermind or challenge beast draw all the heat, never pissing anyone off, and getting into the FTC and winning it all based on not having done anything wrong to anyone ever. Notable UTR players: Sophie, Natalie Social gamer: A player who forms strong alliances with everyone on the eventual jury and isn't physically strong or the mastermind, but is able to sway people the way they want votes to land. Social game players: Sandra, Parvati, Amber Bitter jury: Because the game is reliant on a jury to vote on the winner there is a perception that sometimes the player who "deserves" to win gets "cheated" out of a win because they were such a rude, arrogant backstabbing rear end in a top hat to the people they betrayed that the jury doesn't vote for anyone so much as against a player. Also leads to really awkward, awful FTCs where a bunch of lying douchebags rail against other lying douchebags for being lying douchebags on a game show, as opposed to any sort of strategy discussion. If you're watching an FTC and you see someone bring up the word "integrity", congrats, you've found a bitter jury member! Although jury management is an extremely important part of the game juries have generally gotten more bitter and more angry over time, which has led to generally worse FTCs and finales. Goat: Someone useless, awful, or crazy that the mastermind player lugs with him or her to the final two/three ("riding the goat"). The jury is then forced to vote between someone they hate with a passion or the mastermind that orchestrated their removal. Really common in the old seasons of Survivor, before the implementation of the final three in Cook Islands- indeed, part of the reason for the final three change was so that "bringing a goat" wasn't as viable a strategy any more - it still was used as recently as Redemption Island with Boston Rob lugging Phillip all the way to FTC. Goats have the side benefit of attracting all the heat vote-wise until the final two/three. Notable goats: Phillip, Twila Coattail rider: What certain UTR players get accused of being- instead of being subtle and quiet, they're accused of being boring and unimaginative, relying on the mastermind/challenge beast to do all the heavy lifting. Notable "coattail riders": Natalie, Sophie. Throwing an immunity challenge: The concept of intentionally losing an immunity challenge because there's a member of the tribe which is somehow cancerous to the tribe or is otherwise undesirable. Always, always a terrible loving idea and it never, ever works out well for the tribe in question. Seriously if someone urges to throw an immunity challenge they're guaranteed to be an idiot with no sense of strategy. Mactor: Portmanteau of "Model/Actor", if you see any contestant with either of those two as their "profession", especially if it's literally both, they're probably this. Mactors get a lot of heat from diehard Survivor fans and this thread because they're usually not Survivor "fans", and indeed didn't even apply for the season- most are actively recruited by Survivor's casting director (Lynne Spillman). The prevailing theory is that she actively recruits any friends of her best friends- who are former Survivor contestants like Parvati Shallow, Amanda Kimmel, etc. She also primarily recruits from the gym she goes to in the LA area and basically hot people she meets within the city. Mactors are hated for a variety of reasons: 1) Usually, they have no strategic sense of the way the game is played- so they go on and on about "honor" and "integrity" and think they're the smartest fuckers ever to exist for coming up with, say, the idea of the blindside or some really basic strategic idea. 2) Usually, they're lazy whiny fuckers who don't do anything around camp and constantly complain about how hungry they are and just throw massive pity parties for themselves. 3) Mactors are usually the ones who quit- quitters MASSIVELY gently caress up the game and game flow in a variety of different ways, and quitters and quit threatens have lead to the prevailing trend of current Survivor seasons to have overstuffed and overcast tribes with a bunch of extra people because they "figure in" that people are going to quit. It also leads to situations like Nicaragua where two people quit in the same night and ended up on the jury, which was just loving reprehensible. 4) Most commonly and annoyingly, they've never seen a season of Survivor beyond the ones that CBS sends to all its contestants once they're cast (which is always the last 2-3 seasons), so it leads to really loving annoying poo poo like Nicaragua. Nicaragua was the season immediately after Samoa and Heroes v Villains, which were dominated in their screentime by Russell, so Nicaragua had about 6 people in their pre-interviews say they were the next Russell Hantz. The gameplay also suffered as about half of the contestants tried to play the exact same Russell game, with horrid results. It ended up making the season really, really boring to watch as everyone tried to backstab each other and be the biggest dick for no strategic reason other than "the only Survivor we watched Russell did it and got a lot of screentime, and we want screentime to launch modelling/acting careers". (This also happened to a much less significant extent during South Pacific/One World as a bunch of mactors tried to emulate Boston Rob's cult-like play during Redemption Island). Film cycles: Every odd-numbered season of Survivor is usually filmed during mid-to-late summer. The show then takes a two-week break as they send home the previous season's contestants, set up the new tribe locations, send the last bit of film, fly in the new challenges, and set up the new film locations as they fly in the next season's contestants. The next season's -the even-numbered season's- contestants usually compete from early September to early October, so right before winter really kicks into high gear. (Early September to early October is also when the odd-numbered season that was just finished starts airing). What does this mean? Well, in some film cycles (notably seasons 11-12-Palau-Guatemala, seasons 15-16-China-Micronesia, and seasons 19-20 Samoa-Heroes v. Villains) they bring back a returning contestant (or two) from the previous, odd-numbered season to compete in the next, even-numbered season. (This has happened most famously with Amanda Kimmel from China and Russell Hantz from Samoa). Doing back-to-back Survivor runs with only a two-week break in the middle is an insane test of endurance. The contestants that do so usually get dangerously thin, and if they make it to the finale in back-to-back seasons (like with Amanda and Russell), have been playing Survivor for so long without a real break that they start to lose it. This is most famously seen with Russell's HvV play, wherein near the end he completely loving loses his grip on sanity and becomes a paranoid mess, which directly leads to his loss during the finale. He starts plotting a bunch of un-Hantz-like "stabbing his closest companions in the back" moves that are totally not in keeping with how he normally plays the game and only make the jury pissed off at him more than they already are. The only feasible explanation- since Russell is usually a pragmatic and calculated player- is that he spends so much time playing Survivor that he sees everyone as his enemy and basically develops low-grade cabin fever. Likewise, Amanda Kimmel during the finale of Micronesia (the season she back-to-backed in) has spent so much time plotting to stab people in the back and betray their trust that she devolves into a weepy mess during her FTC performance. Which, again, probably had something to do with spending so much time playing Survivor and not spending time in normal interactions with other human beings. That being said, doing back-to-back Survivor runs with no breaks is also a huge benefit; if appearing in both season in a film cycle, a returning player (who is usually really, really good) has both the experience of having just finished playing a game of Survivor (so they're in the right mental "mood" to play) while also playing against people who have no idea who they are, their personalities, or how they play (the short delay between seasons means the even-numbered season contestants don't get dvds of the season which just finished filming). This, for instance, hugely benefitted Russell on HvV because Boston Rob completely and utterly discounted him as a viable threat until it was almost too late, and the fact that nobody knew who he was or how he played literally meant he got an idol for free out of it. You'll see Survivor thread alums debate and argue whenever the interminably awful "Russell- greatest player ever?" arguements start up, and whenever they talk about "film cycles" or Russell's various HvV advantages (and disadvantages) this is what they mean. Edits: Survivor is, above all else, a tv show. Indeed, it's a tv show that beyond its gameplay attempts to tell a narrative arc for its cast, so sometimes the concept of "edits" and a person getting an "edit" will be bandied around in the Survivor thread. Since, obviously, the editors for each season of Survivor know who win (or at least, who makes the final 2/3 and, more abstractly, the jury), they know that the viewers want to know the eventual winner as well as possible. So, usually, the final 2 to 3 receive a majority of the screentime of the season, especially if the final 2/3 all are part of the same alliance. The viewing audience also wants to know the jury at least fairly well so they usually (with about one to two exceptions) get the rest of the screentime during the season. Beyond that, there's the concept of "character edits".
The Survivor thread usually argues that "X person is getting Y edit, so can/can't win, is gonna make the merge/be eliminated before the merge, etc". However, it all kind of boils down to informed guessing, since there are so many exceptions to the "guidelines" of how a person who reaches X position is edited the only real hard-and-fast rule that you can hold to is that if someone who up until that episode had no confessional/screen time whatsoever suddenly gets a ton, and they don't do ANYTHING to warrant it like have a legendary freakout, they're being eliminated that episode. Survivor seems to favor presenting an about-to-be-eliminated player in the fullest light possible before they're voted off, but that's pretty much the only really reliable rule to hold to. Occupation fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2013 around 15:32 |
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Wow, that's a lot of words about Survivor. Nice job Looking forward to this season since last season was pretty enjoyable and Jeff said this one is better
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 22:36 |
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I don't know if I totally buy Probst's analysis that this season is better than the last one. A lot of his opinion depends on the winner, and from his Rob Has a Podcast appearance Probst didn't really seem to like Denise that much (at least, he said he was surprised that people liked her). Also Michael looks like a cross between Clark Kent and Lex Luthor
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 22:53 |
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Hoping Malcolm gets in on the strong alliance day one and cooks this season. If he could bring some awesome people along like Brenda and Erik that would be pretty sweet. The super goats do concern me. Brandon Hantz, Corrine, Phillip, to an extent poor Cochran... they can all be used and abused SO easily and will eat screen time like nothing else. For the love of god if you Survivor editors are reading this just show a super goat's choicest quotes (not monologues) and then focus on the game.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 23:04 |
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I hope that dude's beard doesn't disappoint me as much as Rick's mustache. Also looking forward to more Cochran and Eric, who was once a fan and is now a favorite. I hope Brandon is still totally shithouse crazy. Also, Vive la Specialist!
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 23:17 |
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Beard guy is definitely 1000% winning, calling it now.
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 23:25 |
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When is the first episode
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 23:44 |
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Occupation posted:Pet Peeves: (be prepared for the second-best response to any Survivor pre-interview question, ever, of all time. it is also amazing.) Ex-TV stars If he's referring to Lisa this is a good answer. If he's referring to all Survivor alum, this is a great answer. But, uh, does the OP not say when the season starts?
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| # ? Jan 11, 2013 23:50 |
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Oh whoops. Season premiere Wednesday, February 13 8 pm Eastern.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 00:00 |
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I'm bummed Erik doesn't have the stupid mohawk he did during the HvV finale. But oh man this looks like we could be in for insane crazy fun. Pony: The Returnees Poison: those other fucks who cares
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I can't wait to see Phillip
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 00:17 |
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Dawn was reasonably strong in challenges once she got over the It's ironic that the Fast Food Franchisee really needs to eat a hamburger
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 00:23 |
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I read all the words in the OP. Good job! Hopefully we get some new blood in here this season. As for the players, GO FRANQUESQUA! I she proves that she really is what everyone thought she may have been in Boston Rob's season. I hope she steps up to the challenge. Also Also I remember hating Andrea, but now I can't remember why. OP bio didn't trigger any recollections. Did she help kick off a favored player or something?
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 01:52 |
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Outstanding OP, Occupation. I feel like I just took a Survivor 101 class, or maybe just read the textbook. Now everybody is gonna think they can use all the jargon. I really liked how you outlined each season without spoiling much of anything. Sears Poncho posted:Beard guy is definitely 1000% winning, calling it now. I don't believe there is any way this is happening. I think he gets voted out real early, you gotta remember that first and foremost this show is on CBS. While we might love people who have full sleeves and even fuller beards, the average CBS viewer doesn't. Cochrane is another person I'd see getting an early exit. While my heart wants to see Francesca go deep, my brain reminds me that she probably won't. That being said, Pony: Gotta go with Erik. Got burned picking the laid back older black dude last time, not gonna do it again, although I loving love "Secret Agent?" Phil with the Lightspeed Briefs. Shamar might be my 3rd place favorite, that video of his was incredible. Poison: Brandon. He's everything wrong with Survivor in a short, stupid, self-important package. What's next, Sandra's daughter? Boston Rob's biological uncle? I don't know if it's just an American thing, but I loathe the fantasy that someone's sibling or relative means that they're %90 as good as having the initial person. When I see these cast lists, I always get way too hung up on the player's occupations and that has bitten me in the rear end more than once. I think having a guy with a skill set like Eddie would make him more useful for me to keep around, when on the show nobody really gives a rat's rear end. Like the guy from a couple seasons ago who was the sushi chef, I thought he'd go real deep with those skills, and he got boned. The obvious exception is when they're famous outside of Survivor. And more Brenda. Yowza.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 01:58 |
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Pony: Brenda. She was great on her season, and she's the only returning player I don't actively hate besides Malcom. Poison: Pretty much everyone else, but Hantz is topping the list. That bumblefuck family needs to get as far away from Survivor as possible and leave it to people who actually understand the base concepts of the game.
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quote:You'll see Survivor thread alums debate and argue whenever the interminably awful "Russell- greatest player ever?" arguements start up Aerox posted:Poison: Pretty much everyone else, but Hantz is topping the list. That bumblefuck family needs to get as far away from Survivor as possible and leave it to people who actually understand the base concepts of the game. *clicks watch* 13 replies.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 02:11 |
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This season is going to be a thing of song and legend. Pony: Cochran. He may be the ultimate underdog, but I'm going to enjoy every last moment of watching my goon king claim his rightful place atop the throne of survivor. If he pulls this off it's gonna be like the ultimate sports movie. Poison: Brandon. I'm going to enjoy watching him fall into madness again. Henceforth bearded dude needs to be referred to as Gimli.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 02:28 |
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Occupation posted:Splitting votes/Voodoo strategy: Originating in Cook Islands by noted crazy person and proto-Coach Cao Boi, the idea of an alliance that splits its votes between two members to "out" the idol. For instance, if an alliance has 6 members to an opposing alliance's 3, but one person in the 3 has an HII, the alliance would voted 3 for one member in the alliance and 3 for another, so even if the idol is played one of the members of the alliance is voted out (since it'd be a 3/3/3 tie, the idol would eliminate 3 votes for one member which would result in a 3/3 tie and a revote). Almost never done successfully. Ever. Requires an alliance to have at least double the members of the opposing alliance and not gently caress it up, which they usually do. (Incidentally, I believe Brenda is the one who masterminded the first successful vote split. Because she's a good player.) Occupation posted:Purple rocks: The final four of the Marquesas season of Survivor's tribal council ended with the first-ever deadlock, which was resolved via the three people without immunity drawing a rock. Whoever drew the purple rock would be sent home, ending with Paschal's elimination from the game (despite no votes in that TC, or indeed any other tribal council up to that point). Shaped future Survivor seasons from avoiding ties at all costs due to nobody knowing how ties would be resolved; if it'd be pure luck like on Marquesas or not. Now, ties seem to be resolved via fire-making challenges, but every time someone does a dumb flip-flop to avoid a tie thread goons call it "avoiding purple rocks". We also know this one because the rule book leaked a few years back. Purple rocks are still very much the method to resolve ties. Anytime there's a tie outside the final four, there's a revote. If there's still a tie after the revote, rocks are drawn. Anyone with immunity, as well as the players who are involved in the tie, is immune and does not draw rocks. The remaining players draw rocks, and one of them is eliminated from the game. It's a great incentive to not force a tie, because if there's a tie, the person you're targeting is immune from elimination. Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2013 around 03:16 |
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I thought the only people immune from rocks were people with immunity now?
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 03:34 |
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Nope.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 03:40 |
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Pony: Shamar Poison:Cochran, couldnt stand him in his first season and wish he wasnt back. I didnt think he played a very good game at all.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 03:42 |
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In Corinne's interview clip on cbs.com, the very last thing she said is "I'm going to give you what you want." So that means she's going to fall face first onto some sharp rocks?
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 03:55 |
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Donny Brook posted:In Corinne's interview clip on cbs.com, the very last thing she said is "I'm going to give you what you want." We can only hope. I'm tempted to avoid watching the show until she's been voted off, regardless of how much Probst is hyping this season. She made the show unwatchable for me.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 05:57 |
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Hope Erik, in particular, has a chance to redeem himself this season. I always felt like he gets more poo poo than he deserves. Granted, his move during Micronesia was really stupid, it was clear that even while he was doing it he knew it, and he was just hoping against hope that there was even a sliver of a chance it could work. The girls were pretty convincing that if he didn't give up his immunity he'd be hated by the jury and it's hard to blame him for wanting to try something that would show them some good will. It was a big risk that he was kinda forced into. It's hard to see him making that sort of mistake again.
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http://www.realitynation.com/tv-sho...-26-cast/26306/ There's a video clip here showing all the contestants introducing themselves, and telling us a few lines about themselves. Cochran's contribution was to explain that he basically brought nothing to the table. He used that actual phrase.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 09:22 |
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Occupation posted:Is She a Good Player? I dunno, never saw Gabon. If anyone wants to do a writeup about her I'll edit it into the OP. She gives pretty loving funny bio answers, though. Corinne is a vortex of negative energy and hatred. She got in with the self-designated popular kids, aka the Onion Alliance, first thing in Gabon and proceeded to whine and stomp her feet like a child as the alliance crumbled around her. She never strategized or made any big moves. The only reason she stuck around so late into the game was because she had an awful enough personality not to be perceived as a bigger threat than her other, slightly more competent alliancemates. So, no. Corinne is not a good player. She's there for color. Hopefully there are enough strong personalities to keep her bile from dominating the edit.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 16:55 |
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Pony: Poison: Go the gently caress away, Brandon.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 19:04 |
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Pony: Eric. He had a really good run last time out, and hopefully he learned from his game ending mistake. Poison: Corinne, obvi... Hateful, hateful woman.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 20:26 |
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Petition to change Eriks' occupation back to Ice Cream Scooper.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 21:45 |
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Tough to make picks this year. Choosing a poison between Brandon Hantz and Corinne is drat near impossible. I'm leaning Hantz because of his terrible YouTube videos and I vaguely recall Corinne being tolerable on RHAP. Picking a pony is equally rough. Before last season Ice Cream Scooper (and now Comic Book Artist) Erik would have been automatic, but Malcolm was awesome. Several of the newbies also have potential to be good. Plus Beardman is, well, Beardman. (He does unfairly suffer for the recent appearance of Rick The Moustache) Pony: Malcolm (sorry Comic Book Artist Erik) Poison: Brandon Hantz
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 21:59 |
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Hey so I decided to look for Erik's art because his becoming a comic book artist interested me. I totally expected it to be some godawful bullshit but, no, his stuff is actually pretty good. Check it out. His character design gets too much into the pseudo-anime style sometimes but a lot of his work is really imaginative and his use of color is pretty impressive.
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 22:11 |
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So given that Russell Hantz started to completely fall apart at the end of his second season since it was filmed back-to-back with the first, I'm very curious about how Malcolm is going to go. You can tell from his Q&A answers that his past season still occupies a lot of his thinking...
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| # ? Jan 12, 2013 22:26 |
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I guess I'll just leave this here. Favorites Pony: Malcolm!!! Every time I walk by SAE on campus at Dartmouth, I think of him. I'm glad he grew out of the Dartmouth bro uniform though. Check that poo poo out. Poison: Corinne. At least Brandon tries to be good, even if he fails miserably. Fans Pony: Matt, who I'll probably be referring to as Opie, because goddrat that beard and hair, and he works at a loving bike shop. Poison: Hope. As the pageant girl, the idiot who thought that going for pre-law was a good idea, and probably this year's Who The gently caress Is Kelly. If we were going to do E-peen for this season, how would we go about it?
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| # ? Jan 13, 2013 00:12 |
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This cast seems really dull to me, but hopefully they come across better on the actual show. I like Brenda, Malcolm and to some extent Erik, but wow, the Favourites tribe is the least impressive string of returning players since pretty much ever. Pony: Brenda. She's a flawed player, but an interesting one with plenty of untapped potential. Poison: Phillip.
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Propaganda Machine posted:If we were going to do E-peen for this season, how would we go about it? Mods requested I do the Amazing Race game in a new thread, so someone would have to take the initiative (seriously, not it). You could crowdsource ideas for questions and determine a format.
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Amazing OP. I watched the first 5-6 seasons, then pretty much stopped until a few episodes after the merge last season. I understand that was a good time to jump back on.Occupation posted:Hope Driskill (23) She wants to go to law school and the year is 2013. She's not that smart. She also lives in Jeff City, which is pretty widely acknowledged to be a hellhole.quote:Ulonged: In Palau, the Ulong tribe didn't win a single immunity challenge and kept on voting out the wrong players (usually their strongest or smartest), so it all snowballed into them losing every single immunity challenge pre-merge. Only Stephanie survived from the Ulong tribe to get "conquered" by the opposing tribe and eventually voted out. We now speculate as to whether or not a tribe that does miserably in the early going and racks up a bunch of early game losses will be "Ulonged"- will lose every single immunity challenge. This got a little screwy last season, right? I missed some of the merge action, but if I recall correctly, both Malcolm and Denise were in the poo poo tribe. Is the fact that they were highly valued in their new tribes a weird artifact of the three tribe structure, or just a testament to how good they were? Last question - really, what the hell did Erik do?
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Boxman posted:Last question - really, what the hell did Erik do? He gave away the challenge immunity idol. At final 5. To an alliance that had repeatedly lied to and blindsided EVERY other physical threat.
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And to be completely clear, he didn't give away the hidden idol, he won the Immunity Challenge, It was really incredibly stupid. Mo0 fucked around with this message at Jan 13, 2013 around 03:09 |
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Haha
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Hey goon DP is doing a trip report of Survivor 25 despite never having seen an episode of Survivor before, it's pretty funny stuff, check it out: 










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She also lives in Jeff City, which is pretty widely acknowledged to be a hellhole.