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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

The Philadelphia Eagles are merely a series of booms and busts; the long run trend of the franchise is positive.

But the long run is a misleading guide to professional football. In the long run we are all dead.


The discussion on Kelly in the main coaching hire thread was starting to dominate things so I figured I'd make a thread for everyone to discuss the hiring.

Here's the official press release from the Eagles.

Philadelphia Eagles posted:


Source: http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/n...7d-1dcd84971fff

Chip Kelly, known for possessing strong leadership and one of the most innovative minds in football today, will be the new head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles - the 21st head coach in the franchise’s history.

Kelly - with his fast-paced offense and aggressive play calling – has been the head coach at the University of Oregon. He met with Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, team president Don Smolenski and general manager Howie Roseman early in the head coach search in Arizona after the Fiesta Bowl for almost nine hours with both sides engaging in a wide ranging, enthusiastic discussion of everything from football philosophy to management and organizational values and ideas. The conversations continued until Kelly decided he wanted to remain at the University of Oregon.

Still, Kelly continued to evaluate the opportunity to work for the Eagles in the NFL.

“Chip Kelly will be an outstanding head coach for the Eagles,” said Lurie. “He has a brilliant football mind. He motivates his team with his actions as well as his words. He will be a great leader for us and will bring a fresh, energetic approach to our team.”

This will be Kelly’s first head coaching job in the NFL.

The 49-year-old Kelly has been with the University of Oregon since 2007, including the last four years as head coach. Kelly compiled an astounding 46-7 (.868) record as head coach of the Ducks as he solidified that program as one of college football’s elite. He also worked as the team’s offensive coordinator from 2007-08.

Before joining the University of Oregon, Kelly was the offensive coordinator for the University of New Hampshire, his alma mater, from 1999-2006. He was that school’s offensive line coach from 1997 to 1998 and its running backs coach from 1994-96.

Over the years, Kelly has developed an aggressive offensive strategy. Kelly is one of the most progressive thinkers in football today. A strong leader with an innovative football mind was at the top of Lurie’s list when he outlined the characteristics he was seeking in a coach when he launched the search.

Under Kelly in 2012, Oregon averaged nearly 50 points per game (49.6) and his four-year scoring average with the Ducks was 44.7 points per contest.

His first coaching job was with Columbia University where he was the outside linebackers coach and the strong safeties coach in 1991. In 1993, he was the defensive coordinator at Johns Hopkins University.

Kelly graduated from New Hampshire with a BS in Physical Education in 1990.

The Eagles will introduce the new head coach to its fans as soon as arrangements can be made.

Tons of people have written stories on Kelly during his time at Oregon. Here's what Grantland's Chris Brown had to say.

Chris Brown posted:


Source: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id...-familiar-seems

My high school coach was a prototypical old football coach," Oregon coach Chip Kelly said during a packed coaching clinic lecture in 2009. His coach at Manchester Central High School in New Hampshire was Bob Leonard, and he was definitely old-school. "We ran an unbalanced, two–tight end, power-I formation," Kelly said. "We averaged five passes a game." When Kelly joined Leonard's staff after he finished college, he tried bringing with him a few of the principles he'd learned while at New Hampshire. "I told him that in college we split players [out wide] and threw the ball to them. He thought that was a bunch of college bull."

Eventually, the future spread-offense maven broke the old coach down. During one practice, a receiver left the huddle — they huddled back then — and trotted out toward the sideline. Not a single defensive player followed. "The defense thought he was going to get a drink," said Kelly. Convinced he'd seen a glimpse of the future, Kelly excitedly pointed out the uncovered receiver. The old coach turned to the younger one and said, "Good. Now get him back in the box so he can block somebody."

Since Kelly became Oregon's offensive coordinator in 2007 and its head coach in 2009, the incredible statistics and daunting record rolled up by the Ducks has been largely credited to Kelly's famed spread offense. This season Oregon is 10-0, fourth in the country in rushing, second in total yards, and first in scoring with more than 54 points per game. The most common explanation for this success is Kelly's up-tempo, no-huddle approach and the theory that simply running plays quickly is what transforms a good offense into a great one. There's an element of truth to this — the no-huddle is undeniably key to Oregon's identity — but the explanation is incomplete. Oregon doesn't use its fastest tempo all the time, and the benefits of the no-huddle go well beyond those 60 electrifying minutes on Saturdays.

Kelly's anecdote about his old high school team suggests another possibility. Chip Kelly's offense works not because it's a gimmick, but because rather than choose sides between old and new, Kelly's teams straddle history. Oregon is successful because it does well what good teams have always done well, albeit with a slightly more modern wardrobe.

"We spread the defense so they will declare their defensive look for the offensive linemen," Kelly explained at that same clinic. "The more offensive personnel we put in the box, the more defenders the defense will put in there, and it becomes a cluttered mess." Twenty years ago, Kelly's high school coach ran the unbalanced, two–tight end power-I, so he could execute old-school, fundamental football and run the ball down his opponent's throat. Today, Kelly spreads the defense and operates out of an up-tempo no-huddle so he can do the exact same thing.

Every coach has to ask himself the same question: 'What do you want to be?'" Kelly said at a recent clinic. "That is the great thing about football. You can be anything you want. You can be a spread team, I-formation team, power team, wing-T team, option team, or wishbone team. You can be anything you want, but you have to define it." That definition is evident in Oregon. Kelly's choice of a no-huddle spread offense drips from every corner of the impressive practice facilities in Eugene. Oregon does not run a no-huddle offense so much as they are a no-huddle program.

For all of the hype surrounding Oregon games, Oregon practices might be even better. Oregon practices are filled with blaring music and players sprinting from drill to drill. Coaches interact with players primarily through whistles, air horns, and semi-communicative grunts. Operating under the constraint of NCAA-imposed practice time limits, Kelly's sessions are designed around one thing: maximizing time. Kelly's solution is simple: The practice field is for repetitions. Traditional "coaching" — correcting mistakes, showing a player how to step one way or another, or lecturing on this or that football topic — is better served in the film room.

The up-tempo, no-huddle offense ends up benefiting in practice as much as it does in games. Without time wasted huddling, players get many more practice repetitions, leading to increased efficiency on Saturdays. As Sam Snead once said, "practice is putting brains in your muscles," and Oregon's up-tempo practices are all about making Kelly's system second nature.

When the games do begin, there's no question that the no-huddle makes Oregon's attack more dangerous, but it's a common misconception that they have only one supersonic speed. The Ducks use plenty of their superfast tempo, but they actually have three settings: red light (slow, quarterback looks to sideline for guidance while the coach can signal in a new play), yellow light (medium speed, quarterback calls the play and can make his own audibles at the line, including various check-with-me plays), and green light (superfast).

This change of pace is actually how Oregon constantly keeps defenses off balance. If they only went one pace the entire game the offense would actually be easier to defend. When the defense lines up quickly and is set, Kelly takes his time and picks the perfect play. When the defense is desperate to substitute or identify Oregon's formation, the Ducks sprint to the line and rip off two, three, or four plays in a row — and it rarely takes more than that for them to score.

While the coach-player interaction may be limited during Kelly's practices, it's significant before and after them, mostly in the teaching of scheme. At its most fundamental, Kelly's system is a carefully organized, carefully practiced method for forcing defenses to defend the whole field, and then exploiting those areas left exposed. And the first tool Kelly uses is a surprising one: math.

"If there are two high safeties [i.e., players responsible for deep pass defense], mathematically there can only be five defenders in the box. With one high safety, there can be six in the box. If there is no high safety, there can be seven in the box," Kelly explained at the 2011 spring Nike Coach of the Year Clinic. The easiest case is if the defense plays with two deep defenders: "With two high safeties, we should run the ball most of the time. We have five blockers and they have five defenders."

As Vanderbilt's excellent offensive line coach, Herb Hand, recently told me, "I tell my offensive line that if the defense plays two safeties deep, it's like spitting in your face — it's a lack of respect for your run game." Oregon's run game doesn't suffer from any lack of respect; as a result, they rarely face two-deep defenses except on obvious passing downs.

When a team brings that extra defender into the box, the calculus for the offense changes. "If the defense has one high safety and six defenders in the box, the quarterback has to be involved in the play," Kelly explained. "He has to read one of the defenders, in effect blocking him. We can block five defenders and read the sixth one." Marcus Mariota, Oregon's dynamic freshman quarterback, has been an excellent blocker without hitting anyone at all.

Most teams facing the Ducks this season have primarily played with a single safety deep in an effort to have a sufficient number of defensive players to stop Oregon's vaunted rushing attack, but Kelly and Oregon always have answers.1

In the Rose Bowl last season against Wisconsin, De'Anthony Thomas, a.k.a. "the Black Mamba," ripped off a 91-yard touchdown run to end the first quarter while showcasing explosive speed that left a very good Wisconsin defense in the dust.2 Yet Thomas's blazing run might have been the least interesting element of the play.

Most modern defenses employ "gap control," meaning that they assign a defender the responsibility to fill a certain space between offensive linemen. If the defense successfully fills this space, they will "spill" a runner to the outside — right into oncoming defenders. By alignment, Wisconsin had all of the gaps covered. The problem was that because Oregon had two backs in the backfield — Thomas and Kenjon Barner — the defense needed an additional defender to account for the gap a lead blocker can "create" when a runner goes to either side of him. By walking a safety down into the box, Wisconsin had accounted for this too. Against a traditional offense, the Badgers' defense was sound.

Chip Kelly's scheme is not traditional, and one of the areas where Kelly is a master is in messing with a defense's efforts at gap control. Coaches have long used a variety of methods to manipulate a defense's keys and assignments (Jim Harbaugh is an example of a non-spread offense coach who has always done an excellent job of this, both at Stanford and now with the 49ers), from using unbalanced sets to extra tight ends to lead-blocking fullbacks and pulling linemen who can "remove" and "add" gaps that must be defended. Kelly uses those tactics, too, and they're blended into a mix of deadly spread concepts and old-fashioned, excellent blocking.


On the play against Wisconsin, Kelly packaged an inside zone running play with a "zone read triple option" to the backside. With the option, the quarterback's job is to read the backside linebacker. If the linebacker stays put, the quarterback hands it off to a running back. If the linebacker crashes toward the back, the quarterback keeps the ball and takes it outside. And if after keeping the ball the quarterback is threatened by another defender, he has the option to pitch the ball to another running back running behind him. The idea was to mess with that carefully calibrated gap-control defense and set up the thing Kelly really wants to do, the same thing his old high school coach wanted to do — run the ball right up the gut.

Wisconsin's linebackers reacted to the backfield action by flying outside to take the quarterback and the pitch. This made it an easy "give" to the running back, Thomas. Now look at the left guard, Carson York. York (who was injured early this season and is out for the year) executed his zone blocking techniques perfectly. He first stepped to the play side to help his center block the defensive tackle. Seeing this, Wisconsin's linebacker tried to scrape over the top to plug the open gap to York's left and cut off the lane for Thomas.

York adroitly peeled off his initial block and sealed the linebacker off to his left. This created a gap in the middle of the defense. At that point, all that was left was for the Black Mamba to fire up the nitrous and blast 91 yards to the end zone.3

There are some defenses — like Cal's last weekend — that decide the best way of slowing down the Ducks is by completely selling out to defend the run. Kelly has an answer for this, too. As he has explained, "If there are seven defenders in the box, there are only four defenders to play the pass. It is difficult to play man-to-man without help all day long." The first thing Kelly does if a defense entirely loads the box for the run is to recall the lesson he (indirectly) learned from his old high school coach — make the defense cover the spread receivers, typically by throwing them quick passes and screens.

Once the easy passes have stretched the defense, Kelly is then able to beat it deep. He's killed Southern Cal as of late by using the four-verticals passing play once the Trojans' safeties have started flying up to stuff the run. Cal had a bit more success against Oregon recently while stacking the line and playing man coverage, but they also hadn't played against Mariota.

After Oregon rushed for more than 400 yards against Southern Cal a week earlier, the freshman quarterback shredded the Cal defense for 377 passing yards and six touchdowns. One of the game's telling throws was on a strike down the middle to dynamic sophomore tight end Colt Lyerla. With the safeties up and a play-action fake in the backfield, Lyerla simply ran by Cal's defense, and it was another reminder that there is not an inch of the field that Chip Kelly doesn't make you defend.

If Oregon wins the BCS title this year — they are my pick to do so, though they have suffered a number of tough injuries on defense — I'm certain that Chip Kelly will be coaching next season in the NFL. Those who know Kelly well say it's "inevitable," and his name, along with his friend Jon Gruden's, will be at the top of nearly every NFL coaching search. But despite all his success, there are those who still like to label his offense a gimmick, or, more practically, wonder if it's possible to run a spread offense in the NFL, given the beating a quarterback might endure.

This misunderstands Kelly's attack. "I look for a quarterback who can run and not a running back who can throw. I want a quarterback who can beat you with his arm," Kelly explained at a coaches clinic in the spring of 2011, emphatically adding, "We are not a Tim Tebow type of quarterback team. I am not going to run my quarterback 20 times on power runs."

The numbers back him up. Marcus Mariota is third on Oregon's team in rushing, but he's far, far behind Barner and Thomas. In 2011, the Ducks finished the year fifth in the nation in rushing yards per game and ended with more than 4,000 on the year. Only 206 of those came from quarterback Darron Thomas. Compare that with Tebow, who led Florida in rushing yards and rushing touchdowns in each of the three seasons he was the starting quarterback in Urban Meyer's spread-option offense.

Kelly explained that he merely needs a quarterback who, if the defense "forces" him to run, "can do it effectively." Although this rules out some of the NFL's best quarterbacks — from Peyton Manning to Tom Brady — it doesn't mean that his offense requires Cam Newton or RG3. Every year, the high school and college ranks are producing more and more quarterbacks who aren't utterly devoid of athleticism.4

Time will undoubtedly tell whether Kelly's offense can work in the NFL, but my vote is that it will. It would require Kelly finding the right players, but a Chip Kelly–coached NFL team would win for the same reasons that the Chip Kelly–coached college team wins. Behind the speed, the spread, the Daft Punk helmets, and the flashy uniforms, Oregon ultimately wins with old-fashioned, fundamental, run-it-up-the-gut football. I think everyone, even fans of the spread offense, can appreciate that.

Finally Eagles blogger Tommy Lawlor did a write-up on Kelly a few weeks ago. He's usually pretty good with the analysis:

Tommy Lawlor posted:


Source: http://igglesblitz.com/philadelphia...out-chip-kelly/

Over the next few days I’ll be writing about coaching candidates. Since Chip is the most interesting, he is up first and gets far and away the longest piece. Rather than saying For/Against, I’m presenting the information for you to digest. I’ll let you know my preference in a couple of days.

* * * * *

Chip Kelly is one of the hottest names in the coaching world. His innovative offense and aggressive style of coaching have changed the game of football from high school through the NFL. When Jon Gruden was fired, Kelly is one of the first people he sought out. Gruden wanted to learn Oregon’s offense. Think about that for a second. Gruden, arguably the most knowledgeable West Coast Offense guru on the planet Earth, chose Kelly above all the other brilliant coaches out there. That was the one guy he wanted to learn from. That speaks volumes.

What was Kelly’s response? Sure, I’ll teach you. Kelly went one beyond that and offered to hire Gruden as his offensive coordinator. Kelly thought they could spend a year together and learn from each other. Gruden thought about the offer, as crazy as that sounds, but his wife made it clear that wasn’t going to happen.

Bill Belichick brought Kelly in to Foxboro so the Patriots staff could pick his brain. Pete Carroll met with him so he could learn about the Oregon offense. Coaches with national titles and Super Bowls are seeking out Kelly to see just what he does and how it works. They want to learn from him.

This is payback, in a way. Kelly spent his younger years meeting with coaches to pick their brains. He visited colleges and NFL teams. He regularly talked to coaches. He went to clinics. Kelly wanted to soak up as much information as possible. Andy Reid played and coached at BYU. That was the first offense that really influenced him. He later learned the WCO from Mike Holmgren. Those two sources are the foundation of his playbook. Kelly built his playbook from the ground up. He took the principles of his high school and college coaches (run the ball) and added bits and pieces from all over to help him create an offense that could be fundamentally sound, simple, and explosive.

Ask Reid about football and he’ll tell you it is all about matchups. Kelly will largely agree. The difference is that Reid focused on his beloved passing game. Kelly sought out ways to create favorable running situations. Kelly loved the passing game earlier in his career, but the coaches around him preached the running game and that has been Kelly’s focus in the last decade.

Kelly played DB at New Hampshire. He wasn’t a star, but the coaches loved his effort and intensity. Upon graduation, Kelly went back to his high school and became the offensive coordinator. He had been a QB in high school so going back to that side of the ball was a natural fit. Kelly held this job for a few years.

While in high school, Kelly had befriended a rival coach named Sean McDonnell. When Kelly got into HS coaching, McDonnell had moved on to Boston University. Kelly would go visit him to learn the game and see football at the next level. McDonnell moved on to Columbia and in 1990 hired Kelly to come there and coach DBs and STs and work with the Freshman team. Kelly was the defensive coordinator at Johns Hopkins in 1993. In 1994 McDonnell got the job as offensive coordinator at UNH and hired Kelly to be the RBs coach. He did that for the next 3 years.

At that point there was an opening on the staff for the OL coach position. Head coach Bill Bowes brought in some candidates to interview. Kelly let it be known that he wanted the job. He didn’t have OL coaching experience, but did a good enough sales job that he got the position. This was a key moment. Kelly took a big risk by going for that job. It was outside his comfort zone. Failing there would have affected his coaching future in a big way. Kelly felt he knew football well enough and could learn what he needed about coaching OL.

Kelly is a very driven person. He likes challenges. He is extremely smart and hard-working. If a challenge can be overcome with brains and effort, he’ll get the job done. And that’s exactly what happened. Kelly installed a zone blocking scheme and the run game thrived. RB Jerry Azumah set the I-AA record for career rushing yards (6,193) and ran for 2,195 yards as a Senior in 1998.

McDonnell became the head coach in 1999 and chose Kelly to be the OC. That was the good news. The bad news, Azumah was gone and the offense didn’t have a stud RB to be the foundation of the attack. Kelly went to several schools and looked at some other offenses. He then came back to UNH and installed the spread option. UNH scored more points and won more games in 1999 than the year before with Azumah.

In 2004 QB Ricky Santos hit the field for Kelly. They were together for 3 seasons. Santos was somewhat of an afterthought when he was recruited, but he became a huge I-AA star. He rushed for 1,403 yards and 30 TDs. He threw for 13,212 yards and 123 TDs. UNH didn’t win a title, but made the playoffs all 4 years and had some postseason success. WR David Ball also put up huge numbers. He broke Jerry Rice’s record for career TDs.

Kelly started to develop some buzz in the coaching world. He had a QB, RB, and WR all set major records under him. The offense was good for 400 yards and 30 points virtually every week. And this was at New Hampshire, not exactly a football power. Kelly talked to some bigger schools. Nothing worked out. Tom Coughlin offered him a job with the Giants. Kelly was interested, but it was only Quality Control – Offense. Kelly would be assisting other coaches and more of an information guy. He turned down the offer because he wanted to coach. Kelly wanted to remain a coordinator.

Some say Kelly is arrogant. He’s picky about jobs. He’s picky about how things are done. He’s very demanding. Those around him think Kelly is more confident than arrogant. He’s always seeking out other coaches for ideas on how to improve his team. Kelly isn’t married to a specific offense or scheme. He does what works. Kelly certainly believes in himself and his ideas, but not blindly. If it isn’t working, he will make changes. He does have a lot of self confidence. Think about saying no to Tom Coughlin to keep your job as the OC at New Hampshire. You have to really believe in yourself to pass that opportunity up.

Kelly’s patience paid off when Oregon coach Mike Belotti offered him the OC job for the Ducks. Gary Crowton was the OC for Belotti, but moved to LSU to run their offense. Here is Nike owner and Oregon alum Phil Knight’s explanation of how Kelly got the job.

"Mike Bellotti figured that out. And it’s a little bit of a long story. But Bellotti lost to Utah (in 2005). (Then-Utah head coach) Urban Meyer was running the spread (offense) — one of the early adopters of the spread. In fact, some people credit him with being the inventor. Bellotti, when he saw that system, said, “We could use some of that. Literally, maybe within a year or two later, he decided to put in a spread. … He sent (offensive coordinator Gary Crowton) down to work with Urban Meyer. So he went down there and the offensive coordinator for Florida was Dan Mullen, who’s now the head coach of Mississippi State — I told you this was a long story. Anyway, (Mullen’s) from New Hampshire. And he says, ‘The guy who really knows this stuff is Chip Kelly up at the University of New Hampshire.’ So Crowton, when he came back he had some rough edges to the spread and he started calling Chip Kelly on Sundays saying, “This came up and I didn’t quite know what to do with it.” And Chip always had an answer. So, when LSU came and picked up Crowton, Bellotti knew he’d been talking to Chip Kelly, so he went to get Chip Kelly."

Interestingly, Crowton also was the OC at New Hampshire early on his career. One small state, 3 offensive gurus (Crowton, Mullen, Kelly).

I think you know that Kelly delivered huge results at Oregon. Here are the numbers from his 2 years as the offensive coordinator.

2007 – 9-4 … Rushing 6th , Passing 64th, Overall 10th, Scoring 12th
RB Jonathan Stewart was #7 in the nation. QB Dennis Dixon was 2nd on team in rushing

2008 – 10-3 … Rushing 2nd, Passing 67th, Overall 7th, Scoring 7th
Jeremiah Johnson and LaGarrette Blount were the top rushers. QB J Masoli was 3rd.

QB Dennis Dixon is the key guy to talk about here. In his first 3 years, he threw for 18 TDs and ran for 3. Kelly took over as the OC in his Senior year. They didn’t have a full offseason together because Dixon was playing minor league baseball. Belotti was really upset, but Kelly traveled to watch Dixon play and said nothing but good things. That got their relationship off to a strong start. Dixon was great at QB that year. He got the Ducks off to an 8-1 start. He was Heisman material, having thrown for 20 TDs and run for 9 more. Unfortunately he tore up his knee. He tried to play through it against Arizona, but got hurt even worse and that ended his season and Oregon slumped without him. They did win their bowl game 56-21.

In 2009 Belotti stepped down to become the AD at Oregon. Kelly got his first head coaching job. Here are the numbers.

2009 – 10-3 … Rushing 6th, Passing 98th, Overall 33rd, Scoring 8th
RB LaMichael James 9th in the nation. QB Masoli finished 2nd on the team in rushing.
Losses to Boise St, Stanford, Ohio State. Key wins: Utah, USC.

2010 – 12-1 … Rushing 4th, Passing 39th, Overall 1st, Scoring 1st
RB LaMichael James led the nation. Kenjon Barner 2nd on the team. QB Darron Thomas 3rd (93-486-5).
Lost to Auburn in National Title game. Key wins: Stanford.

2011 – 12-2 … Rushing 5th, Passing 68th, Overall 4th, Scoring 3rd
RBs James, Barner, and Thomas were 1-2-3 in rushing on team. QB only had 56 rushes.
Losses to LSU, USC. Key wins: Stanford, Wisconsin (Rose Bowl).

2012 – 11-1 … Rushing 3, Passing 66th, Overall 4th, Scoring 2nd
Kenjon Barner 5th in the nation in rushing. QB Mariota 2nd on team.
Lost to Stanford. Key wins: Fresno State, Oregon State.

I’ve made mention of where the QB finished in rushing so that you can see this isn’t Cam Newton or Tim Tebow type of football. Those guys carried their offenses on their back. Kelly is a firm believer in feeding the RBs.

Oregon had 4 10-win seasons prior to Kelly taking over. He’s won 10 or more each year. He has the only Rose Bowl in in school history. And he’s done all this without Oregon turning into a recruiting power. Oregon is an A+ program, but it is still in the state of Oregon. Most recruiting powerhouses are in football states (California, Florida, Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Georgia). Oregon gets some stars but not nearly the same amount of elite recruits as other schools.

At this point, you should have a pretty good idea of Kelly’s background and track record.

* * * * *

So the discussion now turns to Kelly and the NFL. Can he succeed in pro football? Yes, absolutely yes. That doesn’t mean he will. We see coaches with great NFL backgrounds who fail. Circumstances are a key factor for every coach.

Most people play the “Steve Spurrier card” in regard to Kelly. Joe College will hit the NFL and make a fool of himself. The situations could not be more different. Kelly is a workaholic. He is incredibly driven and has worked his way up from the bottom. Spurrier was a Heisman Trophy winning QB at Florida. He was arrogant. He believed that he truly was smarter than others and could win in the NFL by doing things his way (work smarter, not harder). In college, Spurrier was always the smartest coach on the field. That wasn’t the case in the NFL and his inability to deal with that fact made him a failure.

Kelly is the guy with the chip on his shoulder. He wasn’t a star player. He didn’t start his coaching career in the SEC and ACC like Spurrier did. Spurrier was the OC at Duke by his 3rd year. Kelly was still a high school coach in his 3rd season of coaching. Kelly will not be out-worked. Spurrier is famous for playing golf in the afternoons. One of the criticisms that Oregon boosters have with Kelly is that he won’t attend their offseason golf outings. He sends his assistants. Spurrier plays during the season on a regular basis.

Kelly won’t come to the NFL thinking he knows more than the other coaches. Kelly has met with NFL staffs over the years. Initially it was to learn. Over time he became the lecturer so that they could learn. He still takes away whatever nuggets of wisdom that he can. Kelly loves learning the game of football and still sees himself as a student of the game.

Can Kelly’s offense work in the NFL? Complex question. The first thing I think you have to understand is that Kelly doesn’t see himself as having just one offense. He’s noted for the spread option, but isn’t married to it. If he was made coach of the Patriots, Kelly would run a passing offense that featured Tom Brady. Kelly has had athletic QBs at UNH and Oregon so he’s run the spread option.

I’m sure he’d love to have an athletic QB like RG3, Russell Wilson, or Colin Kaepernick to run his full playbook, but the key for Kelly is to have a smart QB who is accurate. Jake Locker is a great athlete, but highly inconsistent passer. Tim Tebow is a big, strong guy, but didn’t always make good reads when running the option. Those guys might drive Kelly a bit nuts.

Kelly is all about numbers. If he can make you worry about his passing game and leave fewer guys in the box, he will run. If you stack the box, he will throw. If you load up the outside, he’ll attack the inside. And so on. This isn’t rocket science. Kelly wants to see where you line up your defenders and then he will attack the weak spots. These basic principles already work in the NFL. Watch Brady and Manning at the LOS, looking over the defense. They want to attack the weak spots in the defense.

Kelly isn’t a “plays” guy. Spurrier was. Reid and Mornhinweg definitely are. Kelly will tell you to focus on players, not plays. Think back to the Skins game. The Eagles threw the ball to TE Evan Moore at one of the most critical moments in the game. The design of the play worked. Moore was open. The pass was accurate. Should have been a TD. The problem is that football isn’t chess. You can’t think of the players as pieces who will do as you wish. You must account for the human element. That generally means focusing on your star players. Get them the ball in crunch time. Don’t focus on surprising the other team. Out-execute them.

If he comes to the NFL, Kelly will adapt to the players he has. Over time he’ll shape the roster to be exactly what he wants, but don’t fall into the trap of thinking what you see at Oregon is exactly what you’d see in the pros. Kelly is smart enough to know that you can use multiple QBs in college, but in the NFL you need one star QB and the team is built around him. That means limiting him as a runner.

One of the recent stats that has helped to show Super Bowl teams is sack differential (sacks for vs sacks against). Kelly hates sacks. His philosophy is to blame them on the QB. Always. Kelly thinks the QB should get rid of the ball. 2nd and 10 is better than 2nd and 17, as he loves to point out. Oregon was in the Top 12 in fewest sacks allowed from 2009-2011. This year they are down at 37th. Having a Freshman QB will do that to you. Oregon has rushed the passer well in his time as HC.

Kelly will bring somewhat of a collegiate atmosphere with him. When asked why his WRs at Oregon are such good blockers he said, “We’re not gonna throw to ya if you’re not going to block on the perimeter.” Are you listening, Jeremy Maclin? Some NFL players will be put off by a coach who gets on their case about things like blocking. You can just hear the thoughts going through the player’s head…”Did you draft me to block or catch TDs?” He won’t say it, but you know he’ll think it. Some coaches are able to motivate the NFL players and they have success (see Jimmy Johnson). Greg Schiano brought some of that to Tampa. Other coaches are seen as college guys intruding on life in the NFL and they fail (Lou Holtz most famously).

Players are held to tough standards. Kelly hates underachievers. From a clinic talk he once gave, "If a player is a 5.0 player (40-yard dash speed) and plays at 5.0, that is what we want. Do not be the 4.6 player who plays at 5.2 in games." In other words, give me the guy I can trust, the reliable player. I don’t want the guy who has potential, but doesn’t play up to it. Kelly preaches about effort. He likes to say that the team who plays hardest the longest generally wins. This is absolutely true in college and high school. The NFL is about execution more than effort, but that’s still a big part of success. You want teams that go hard in practice and in games. The coach sets the tone for this.

In college, practice time is very limited so Kelly came up with some creative ways to do things. He does little to no teaching on the field. That is practice time. Teaching goes on in the classroom. You then put those concepts into action in practice. You sure can’t argue with the results. The scouts and coaches who have watched his practices at UNH and Oregon say they are amazing. Coaches and players fly around the field. There is constant motion. Everything is mapped out to maximize every possible second. If Kelly thinks one drill needs 3 minutes, that’s how long it is. He doesn’t go with some generic guidelines. He literally times out how long each session should last and plans accordingly.

This would have to change somewhat in the NFL. There is substantially more practice time. You’re also not teaching just basic concepts. Things are more complex in the NFL. You need more time to be thorough.

One thing I love about Kelly is that he sees himself as a teacher and understands that the players won’t learn if you don’t explain things the right way. Kelly points out that players today love to know why things are done a certain way. Instead of using the old “because I told you so” line, Kelly teaches his coaches to tell the players why something is done. If you can’t explain why something is done a certain way, maybe it isn’t the right thing to do.

I am not sure how much of Kelly’s style of coaching during games would follow him to the NFL. He loves to go for 2 in college. Oregon starts a lot of games up 8-0. Kelly wants to put the opponent on their heels right away. And he’s not afraid to fail on the attempt because he expects to score plenty of points. Kelly hates to kick FGs. His team has hit 5, 9, 13, and 16 FGs in his time as coach. Remember how bad Penn State’s kicker was early this year and how Bill O’Brien would go for it all the time on 4th down? That PK still hit 14 FGs on the year. That will likely be the lowest total for an O’Brien team and it is close to the most for a Kelly team.

I’m sure Kelly would be more aggressive about going for 2 and going for it on 4th downs than most NFL coaches, but he might dial down what he does at Oregon. Kelly is smart enough to understand there is a big difference in pro and college football. Few college games swing on one play. Generally one team is clearly better than the other. The NFL is a league of parity. Many games have one key moment. There is a fine line between aggressive and reckless.

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The case for the Eagles to go after Chip Kelly: Greatness. Chip Kelly isn’t a coach that is available all the time. He is a winner. He is innovative. He’s also smart enough to know that he doesn’t know everything. He’ll mix his ideas with some conventional NFL wisdom. Jimmy Johnson came to the NFL with no pro experience. He was smart enough to ask questions and learn what he needed. He took his college ideas and mixed them with NFL ideas and built a dynasty. Like Johnson, Kelly is tough on his players. Kelly believes in competition. Either you get the job done or I’ll go to the guy behind you. This worked for Johnson. It is working for Pete Carroll in Seattle.

If Kelly does succeed, he could be a great coach. He’s got the potential to be special. Why not take the chance on greatness? There will always be another hot coordinator next year or the year after. Kelly could be one of those rare coaches that will haunt you if you pass on him.

I think Kelly would fit in well with most of the Eagles personnel. He loves RBs. He’d have a great group to work with. Kelly prefers athletic blockers to massive guys. He likes TEs that can catch the ball. He would find a way to use DeSean Jackson, but it seems Kelly prefers bigger WRs. The one obvious hole is at QB. Kelly could find his own guy, as most coaches prefer to do. Foles might be part of the short term plan, but likely would not be the long term guy. He could be your backup and that would be just fine.

One of the big concerns with Kelly is his lack of NFL experience. How would he put together the right staff? Kelly is more connected than people think. Tony Dungy’s son Eric plays at Oregon. I’m sure Kelly would talk to Tony and seek advice on staff ideas. Kelly is friendly with Belichick. Kelly is friends with Bill O’Brien at Penn State. O’Brien has NFL connections. Kelly could talk to Pete Carroll for ideas. Kelly hasn’t coached in the NFL, but he’s not a complete stranger to the league and coaching circles.

Kelly would be a great change from Andy Reid. Eagles players have gotten used to doing things Andy’s way. Kelly would come at them from a whole different perspective. The roster is young enough that most guys would probably be comfortable with the collegiate feel that Kelly would initially bring. Kelly isn’t afraid to be the bad guy. He suspended LeGarrette Blount for most of his Senior season after Blount threw a punch at a Boise State player. Kelly suspended star CB Cliff Harris (Reuben Frank’s favorite all time Eagle…just ask him!!!) after Harris got in trouble in his final season at Oregon. Kelly will bench those players who aren’t getting the job done. He’s not afraid to play Freshmen. He does what he thinks it will take to win. Simple as that.

Seems to me that after a couple of years of disappointing play, the Eagles could use someone like that.

The case against Chip Kelly: Being a great college coach and a great pro coach are two very different things. Kelly was able to collect good runners, solid blockers, and athletic QBs and move them around to create favorable matchups and deliver explosive offenses. That helped him to win a lot of games, but when facing teams with NFL talent (Stanford this year, LSU in 2011, Auburn in the 2010 title game), Kelly and Oregon came up short. Oregon wasn’t blown out. They weren’t embarrassed. They did lose. His teams were just 1-2 in bowl games. Scoring 55 on Washington State is nice, but that doesn’t mean you’ll win in the NFL.

The Pac-10 (or 12 if you prefer) has not exactly been a juggernaut since 2009. USC wasn’t at an elite level. The Reggie Bush days were in the past. Cal, Oregon State, and the Arizona schools were up and down. Stanford was the one team that rose up. Kelly and Oregon inflicted losses on these teams to keep them down, but you’d be more comfortable if one other program was really pushing them. Oregon has played some good non-conference games. Kelly isn’t afraid of being challenged. Just happens that the conference has been down in recent years.

Kelly has never faced big time pressure. He’s already the best coach in Oregon history. The media out there gets on him at times, but would be nothing like the scrutiny he would face after a big Eagles loss. At Oregon he basically only answers to one person…Phil Knight. And as long as Kelly wins, Knight will only whisper sweet nothings in his ear. In the NFL Kelly would have to deal with an owner, a GM, and million-dollar players. You can’t just get rid of the NFL guys you don’t like.

QB development is a strange subject. Kelly has gotten great production from Ricky Santos. He turned Dennis Dixon into a Heisman candidate. He got Darron Thomas to play at an even higher level than I had realized. This year Freshman Marcus Mariota is having a great year. The problem is that aside from Santos, these guys are playing for a year or two and then something happens. Jeremiah Masoli was suspended and later kicked off the team. Thomas foolishly went pro (which makes you wonder if there was something else going on). Bryan Bennett was projected to be the starter this year, but lost the job to Mariota. While there has been success, none of this really went according to plan. In the NFL you must find a franchise QB and build around him.

You can spin this that Kelly only had one special talent to work with (Dixon) and that was only for a season or you can point out that other coaches found one guy and got him to play at a high level for 3 or 4 years. In the NFL Kelly would have to find his guy and they’d need to stick together. That’s how you win titles.

Kelly could manufacture yards and points in college due to his ability to call plays and find weak spots in the defense, but that’s not good enough in the NFL. You must have the right QB and he must play at a high level. Kelly is very tough on his QBs. He was hard on Santos back at UNH. Kelly is very demanding and that can rub some people the wrong way. Would his personality work in the NFL? That is a huge question and can’t be brushed aside easily. College coaches are dictators. NFL coaches have a lot of power, but have to answer to more people.

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Resources

Great set of links on Kelly, his offense, and his ideas.

Kelly and Urban Meyer video. Don’t worry, no nudity.

Oregon football stats

Smart Football on Chip Kelly’s offense

Age 49

1990 – Columbia (DB/ST)
1991 – Columbia (OLB/SS)
1992 – New Hampshire (RB)
1993 – Johns Hopkins (DC)
1994–1996 – New Hampshire (RB)
1997–1998 – New Hampshire (OL)
1999–2006 – New Hampshire (OC)
2007–2008 – Oregon (OC)
2009–present – Oregon

For fun, I put together the All-Chip Kelly team from his time as HC at Oregon.

QB Marcus Mariota
RB LaMichael James
RB Kenjon Barner
TE Ed Dickson
OL Max Unger
OL Carson York
OL Fenuki Tupou
OL Mark Asper
OL Kyle Long
WR Jeff Maehl
WR Lavasier Tuinei
ATH De’Anthony Thomas (runner/receiver/returner)

DL Dion Jordan
DL Brandon Bair
DL Kenny Rowe
DL Nick Reed
LB Spencer Paysinger
LB Casey Matthews
LB Josh Kaddu
S TJ Ward
S Patrick Chung
CB Walter Thurmond
CB Cliff Harris

Chip is very good with RBs and Safeties. This list isn’t loaded with elite NFL talent the way that Carroll had at USC or Johnson at Miami.

I think fundamentally this is going to be a very exciting time for the Eagles. Either Kelly is everything we've hoped and dreamed of and we finally get back on our feet and win a Super Bowl or it is an unmitigated disaster and will forever be used as the punchline to a joke like Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino and Peter Carroll (the first time).

The big question going forward is: who will be the Eagles QB? I personally have my money on Foles since I think he's athletic enough for Kelly's system and as we saw this season has a pretty decent arm.

What does everyone else think?

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commy gun
Apr 5, 2009



crossposting:

Paramour posted:

Other people who beat up on said conference: Carroll, Harbaugh.

The difference is that both had experience in the NFL before taking college jobs.

Chip Kelly is worth taking a chance on but I'm surprised how quickly petey TFF has dubbed him the next Big Bill.

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009


The Eagles are gonna be scheduled for a shitton of Sunday Night games.

This is the decade of the NFC East apparently.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Just the avatar, GiP.


Foles has the arm, but he's nowhere near quick enough. It doesn't need to be Vick, but they need to be fast enough to keep the defense honest about the possibility of the QB taking off.

ChewyLSB
Jan 13, 2008

Should I get hit with sanctions or batteries?

CPFortest posted:

The Eagles are gonna be scheduled for a shitton of Sunday Night games.

This is the decade of the NFC East apparently.

Is this really any different though? The NFC East has one of the biggest mass media market (if not the biggest, I think?), as well as a history of being the winning-est division in the NFL.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!



Kelly has every chance to flame out as much as he does to succeed, but I think most people are banking on that he'll be entertaining at least throughout his entire tenure. Most fans, I feel, would be excited that Kelly may be trying to shake things up in the NFL with his offensive schemes. Not that we aren't already seeing the results with teams like the Patriots, but here it can exist in its purest form.

He's no slam dunk, because nobody ever really is. Even good coaches can still suffer in bad situations.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000
Forum Veteran

I'm really interested to see what kind of offense he puts together but I secretly hope he fails horribly so I don't feel so bad about the Browns being the Browns.

commy gun
Apr 5, 2009



Why is everyone just assuming he needs an athletic QB? Tempo is the biggest thing and they have a poo poo ton of speed for any QB to work with.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

Certainly I was sufficiently insecure to have felt the need to establish to my own satisfaction before the age of 33 whether or not humans can fly. If that makes me a chippy little autodidact in your eyes then so be it.

Once again, the Eagles went after the big name and got their man. It's not even technically the offseason yet and the Eagles have already made a bold statement indicating their intention to return to prominence as offseason champions. I look forward to a full spring/summer of optimism about the unlimited potential of this move.

I have no idea how it will work out once the season starts.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Just the avatar, GiP.


commy gun posted:

Why is everyone just assuming he needs an athletic QB? Tempo is the biggest thing and they have a poo poo ton of speed for any QB to work with.

Because the QB has to be athletic enough to draw a defender away from the play and get them to commit to defending against him. If you have a statue as a QB, no one is going to believe he's actually going to run and it defeats the purpose.

commy gun
Apr 5, 2009



My point is that he could work with what he has, whether that be Vick or Foles. He doesn't have to go all Oregon to make a good offense. I think the biggest appeal about Kelly is his creativity, not just about what Oregon's been doing during his tenure.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Whip Slagcheek posted:

Because the QB has to be athletic enough to draw a defender away from the play and get them to commit to defending against him. If you have a statue as a QB, no one is going to believe he's actually going to run and it defeats the purpose.

Just like noted speedster Tom Brady who's part of a super up-tempo team that both Belihick and Chip Kelley have worked together

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

Certainly I was sufficiently insecure to have felt the need to establish to my own satisfaction before the age of 33 whether or not humans can fly. If that makes me a chippy little autodidact in your eyes then so be it.

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Because the QB has to be athletic enough to draw a defender away from the play and get them to commit to defending against him. If you have a statue as a QB, no one is going to believe he's actually going to run and it defeats the purpose.

So what you are saying is we can start the Tebow to Philadelphia rumors now?

Twat McTwatterson
May 31, 2011


commy gun posted:

Why is everyone just assuming he needs an athletic QB? Tempo is the biggest thing and they have a poo poo ton of speed for any QB to work with.

basically they need someone like donovan mcnabb

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

Certainly I was sufficiently insecure to have felt the need to establish to my own satisfaction before the age of 33 whether or not humans can fly. If that makes me a chippy little autodidact in your eyes then so be it.

Twat McTwatterson posted:

basically they need someone like donovan mcnabb

Donovan McNabb, master of the hurry-up offense.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.


They need a dude who can deliver an accurate pass and if they find that then I think they'll be successful.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Just the avatar, GiP.


Twat McTwatterson posted:

basically they need someone like donovan mcnabb

The thought of an in his prime Donovan McNabb running a Chip Kelly offense is a beautiful thing.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009



I am thinking Kelly is smart / good enough to change his offense to work with the talent he has - especially in the first year or two when he is "stuck" with some players.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Just the avatar, GiP.


Tae posted:

Just like noted speedster Tom Brady who's part of a super up-tempo team that both Belihick and Chip Kelley have worked together

Bill's version of the up-tempo offense is nowhere near as run heavy as Chip Kelly's has been in Oregon.

With that said though, I think were more likely to see the Patriots version of a Chip Kelly offense then his Oregon offense.

Whip Slagcheek fucked around with this message at Jan 16, 2013 around 20:04

Cashout
Apr 22, 2011

Called by many the greatest position coach of all-time, Howard Mudd always inevitably quips, "and that's just for my work in the bedroom!"


Please put the Chip Kelly with a moustache picture in the OP.

Diqnol
May 9, 2010

Walrus uses Spread Eagle!
It's not very effective...

Yesterday my mind was filled with fear and hate for Brian Billick - Today I am a new man, a phoenix reborn. Even though he may totally suck it up in the NFL, from the interviews i've seen involving him, he is a very smart man and I get the feeling he'll do good here. This is so exciting

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Because the QB has to be athletic enough to draw a defender away from the play and get them to commit to defending against him. If you have a statue as a QB, no one is going to believe he's actually going to run and it defeats the purpose.

I'm not so sure his offense in the NFL will be the same offense you know him for but I suppose we'll have to see.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

Haters gonna hate


CPFortest posted:

The Eagles are gonna be scheduled for a shitton of Sunday Night games.

This is the decade of the NFC East apparently.

So nothing's changed since forever, basically

LEGIT WAR CRIMINAL
Aug 29, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Goddamn this is so exciting I'm sitting here making GBS threads my pants.

Petey
Nov 25, 2005

I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but the Patriots secondary happeneth to them all.

- Ecclesiastes 9:11

This was in the OP, but if you're not familiar with Chip's offense (other than "they're fast! they run a lot of plays! mobile qb!"), read the Grantland piece by Brown:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id...-familiar-seems

It explains, quite well, how the offense works and why it does not work like you think it works.

See also Bedard's piece on Kelly's influence on the Pats:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...rN6J/story.html

commy gun posted:

Chip Kelly is worth taking a chance on but I'm surprised how quickly petey TFF has dubbed him the next Big Bill.

I should probably temper my statements slightly.

I think Chip Kelly is a great coach. I think he's an incredibly intelligent, innovative strategist. I think he is not conservative and convention driven (which alone makes him better than half of the NFL coaching staff).

He could flame out (Bill did, in Cleveland). He could struggle with the jump, he could have trouble assembling a team, trouble assembling the talent to run the ideal scheme, any kind of trouble. He could have culture clashes with players or be hammered too early by moronic media and fans.

But I don't think there is any question the Eagles, perennial mystery team that they are, landed what presently appears to be the best football ops hire of the offseason.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

Certainly I was sufficiently insecure to have felt the need to establish to my own satisfaction before the age of 33 whether or not humans can fly. If that makes me a chippy little autodidact in your eyes then so be it.

Diqnol posted:

I'm not so sure his offense in the NFL will be the same offense you know him for but I suppose we'll have to see.

The Lawlor analysis sold me on his ability to adjust to his players.

He seems to be in a pretty good situation in the sense that nobody is going to blame him for Vick or Foles. If he is able to win with either of those guys he's going to look great, and if they don't perform well people are going to say "we need to get this guy a quarterback."

Petey posted:

He could flame out (Bill did, in Cleveland). He could struggle with the jump, he could have trouble assembling a team, trouble assembling the talent to run the ideal scheme, any kind of trouble. He could have culture clashes with players or be hammered too early by moronic media and fans.

Despite being known as an offensive innovator, much of the judgement will probably be based on his defensive coaching hires and their performance.

NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at Jan 16, 2013 around 20:20

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010


Diqnol posted:

I'm not so sure his offense in the NFL will be the same offense you know him for but I suppose we'll have to see.

Yeah I think he's married to going fast no matter what and not to the exact plays he ran at Oregon. We'll see I guess, if they keep Vick and he tries to kill him by running him a ton I'll stand corrected.

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007

TFF's billionaire philanthropist of Gotham City, Mass.

Petey posted:

He could flame out (Bill did, in Cleveland). He could struggle with the jump, he could have trouble assembling a team, trouble assembling the talent to run the ideal scheme, any kind of trouble. He could have culture clashes with players or be hammered too early by moronic media and fans.

But I don't think there is any question the Eagles, perennial mystery team that they are, landed what presently appears to be the best football ops hire of the offseason.

I seriously hope he flames out and re-emerges as an OC at the very same time Brady/Bill retires (or shitcans Josh McDaniels). Not that I don't like the guy, but I want him on a team I can root for again

Petey
Nov 25, 2005

I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but the Patriots secondary happeneth to them all.

- Ecclesiastes 9:11

Grittybeard posted:

Yeah I think he's married to going fast no matter what


No, he's not married to this. He's married to tempo changes: the ability to go fast when needed (which most teams don't even have).

The Ducks play at three different speeds and shift between them in order the keep the defense off balance.

quote:

When the games do begin, there's no question that the no-huddle makes Oregon's attack more dangerous, but it's a common misconception that they have only one supersonic speed. The Ducks use plenty of their superfast tempo, but they actually have three settings: red light (slow, quarterback looks to sideline for guidance while the coach can signal in a new play), yellow light (medium speed, quarterback calls the play and can make his own audibles at the line, including various check-with-me plays), and green light (superfast).

This change of pace is actually how Oregon constantly keeps defenses off balance. If they only went one pace the entire game the offense would actually be easier to defend. When the defense lines up quickly and is set, Kelly takes his time and picks the perfect play. When the defense is desperate to substitute or identify Oregon's formation, the Ducks sprint to the line and rip off two, three, or four plays in a row — and it rarely takes more than that for them to score.

Key excerpt from the Bedard piece I linked above:

Bedard posted:


The Patriots operate their no-huddle attack most often using one word as the play call.

More accurately, they use six one-word play calls a game.

That word tells all 11 players on offense everything they need to know.

Formation. Blocking scheme. Direction on run plays. Routes for receiver on passing plays. Shifts in formations. Snap count. Possible alerts and play alterations.

One word.

...

Fast might be an understatement when describing Oregon’s offense. When they’re really going, they get plays off in five seconds. Oregon fans will boo the chain gang moving the sticks on the sideline because they are holding up the offense. Oregon players tell tales of defenders saying that if the Ducks go any faster they’re going to vomit or pass out.

Kelly’s practices are the stuff of legend. There is no need for wind sprints because no one stands around. At all. Not the players, not the coaches. Music is blaring. The defense sometimes plays with 25 players so the offense can get more precise.

It’s dizzying by design. The games are actually tranquil.

“I remember the first day he came as offensive coordinator, we started one of his drills,” Dickson said. “And he said, ‘I’m going to show you how fast I want to go. Your two-minute that you’re running here is going to be nothing compared to what I teach you.’ It was insane. I thought he was insane. I was like, ‘Nobody moves that fast.’ The only way you’re going to simulate that speed, you have to practice that way.”

If you want to see what’s next on the pro level, look to the colleges. That’s what Belichick does, with his alliances with coaches such as Nick Saban (LSU and Alabama), Urban Meyer (Florida and Ohio State) and, now, Kelly.

That’s why when Kelly walked into Gillette Stadium two years ago — and he’s been there three times total — ears perked up among the Patriots’ coaches, including Belichick.

Kelly had become friendly with former Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien while both were rising in the college ranks. The UNH coaching staff would visit Brown, where O’Brien was coaching, for pickup basketball games and to talk X’s and O’s.

Kelly told the Patriots he was moving to a no-huddle that only used one word to signify everything involved in a play.

Sideline calls take too long. Wristbands too.

One word is all that is needed.

“The things they’re doing now, they’re even faster,” Dickson said. “They have things where they can call one thing and it’s going to tell them formation, plays, everything, and all you have to see is coverage.”

The collective Patriots’ response to Kelly’s assertion was, basically, “You run an entire offense like that? How do you get the players to comprehend that?”

Kelly declined to be interviewed, but those with knowledge of the discussion said Kelly laid out his rationale.

Players memorize thousands of words in songs, hundreds of movie lines, and many other things involving pop culture.

Why can’t players have instant recall of a handful of concepts? Heck, everybody knows No. 2 on a McDonald’s menu gets you a Quarter Pounder, medium fries, and a drink.

“It’s kind of easy,” Dickson said. “It comes with repetition. A lot of guys learn different. Myself, I just needed to be out there repping those plays. The more comfortable you get, the faster you’ll go. He wants to make it easier to where you’re not thinking about anything, you’re just going fast. Make it as simple as guys can learn it so you can go really fast. That’s the key, making it simple for your players so they can play at top speed.”

Kelly’s overall message to the Patriots: Don’t put a limit on your players’ minds; they will learn whatever you teach them.

“I was interested to hear how he did it,” Belichick said. “I would say he expanded it to a different level and it was very interesting to understand what he was doing. Certainly I’ve learned a lot from talking to Chip about his experiences with it and how he does it and his procedure and all that.”

...

But the bottom line is the same: Brady uses one of the six game-planned calls when he wants to go fast, and that tells everyone on the field what they are supposed to do.

From there, Brady can choose to just run the play as called for speed — like he did against the Broncos — or he can make changes depending on the defense.

The unquestioned goal of the Patriots’ offense is not to run plays into a defense alignment where the play has little chance at success.

So even in the no-huddle, Brady has the ultimate power. He can simply change the direction of a run, or since many plays have run/pass options (some at the snap), Brady can go as far as changing a run into a shotgun pass.

If a team is overloaded against a pass, Brady can switch to a run even if there’s no running backs on the field. They have, when healthy, Aaron Hernandez, the NFL’s Swiss Army Knife.

“I think one of the biggest differences [between old-school no-huddle and what the Patriots are running today] is just the versatility of the players,” Brady said. “How teams try to defend no-huddle is that you have big safeties that are like linebackers. And linebackers are like small safeties that can cover.

“Then you have big tight ends that can run routes but also run block. And then you have fullbacks that can make a bunch of plays down the field, so it’s not like back then, it was like these two guys only do this. This guy, your fullback, only isolates on the middle linebackers and runs diagonals to the flat.

“So a lot of what you ask the different players to do within the scheme is to be versatile so that you can go in and out of certain concepts rather than feel really reliant that this is the only thing that you do as a player.”

Petey fucked around with this message at Jan 16, 2013 around 20:24

Frinkahedron
Jul 26, 2006

Thomas the Tank Engine


Congrats, NFL fans, you're getting the most exciting to watch coach in college football. It's gonna be so much fun to see what he can do at the NFL level.

Petey
Nov 25, 2005

I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but the Patriots secondary happeneth to them all.

- Ecclesiastes 9:11

xposting:

N:

Twitter posted:

Oregon offense output vs. USC, the Kiffin/Kelly years: 2010 - 599 yards, 53 points; 2011 - 474 yards, 35 points; 2012 - 730 yards, 62 points


V: enjoy, dallas fans

AfterFather
Oct 15, 2012


I for one cannot wait for Steve Spurrier 2.0.

Sour Diesel
Jan 30, 2010

You come at the king, you best not miss.


Petey posted:

xposting:

N:


V: enjoy, dallas fans

I'm sure those college stats has the NFC:E shaking in its boots.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005


Sour Diesel posted:

I'm sure those college stats has the NFC:E shaking in its boots.

Maybe Petey will do the times Kelly played an sec defense next.

Then post it in numerous threads for some reason.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.


Sour Diesel posted:

I'm sure those college stats has the NFC:E shaking in its boots.

It's a joke about Monte Kiffin. Fiz hates jokes.

TheModernAmerican
Aug 31, 2011

My W will never let you into the endzone!


I'm still blown away by this move. I'm used to the Eagles being the offseason champions for the past few years so I can really only think about how bad this will turn out.

Please don't be Petrino.

Petey
Nov 25, 2005

I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but the Patriots secondary happeneth to them all.

- Ecclesiastes 9:11

Badfinger posted:

It's a joke about Monte Kiffin.

Who, in case, like Fiz, you missed it, is now the Dallas DC.

Petey fucked around with this message at Jan 16, 2013 around 20:55

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005
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What I like the most about how offensive strategy is going these days is that it's reviving the need for quarterbacks with the savvy and football sense to call their own plays, at least some of the time. Anything that takes decisions away from coaches and gives them back to players is A-OK by me.

Diqnol
May 9, 2010

Walrus uses Spread Eagle!
It's not very effective...

I wonder if Kelly is gonna pull a Saban on us.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005


Petey posted:

Who, in case, like Fiz, you missed it, is now the Dallas DC.

I'm well aware because I read the threads. Including both you posted that hilarious little gem in.

And all the ones you've posted that same grantland article in, including this one when it was already in the op.

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

The Philadelphia Eagles are merely a series of booms and busts; the long run trend of the franchise is positive.

But the long run is a misleading guide to professional football. In the long run we are all dead.


Fishduck.com has some great explanations of how Kelly's zone read offense works. You really need the pictures to understand the ideas so I'll just link to the article here:

This is more of a general overview: http://fishduck.com/2013/01/what-ev...out-chip-kelly/

This is the tutorial that gives you the basics: http://fishduck.com/the-chip-kelly-...side-zone-read/

His work is really good and the videos are very clear. I doubt Kelly will run this exact sort of offense next season but you can get an idea of what his philosophy is and how he achieves it. Really great reading, I feel bad for Charles Fischer as he's a great analyst and I imagine whoever replaces Chip at Oregon won't be as interesting to diagram and explain.

Seriously, go check out Fishduck. He really knows what he's talking about.

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