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 (Just a quick OP to let people know about the game) What is Ironfell? Ironfell is a new Free to Play browser MMORTS by DataSmugglers fresh out of beta, with pubbie tears ripe for the picking. You start in a medieval age of sorts and eventually(once the updates are released) can move on to space exploration. You can also play on your tablet or smartphone apparently and it works really well. (Some things aren't working yet, such as Guilds/Clans and the higher resources. Updates are planned to add these features soon.) Here is a link for the things they plan on adding in future expansions. http://www.ironfell.com/tech-tree (box on the right) Starting out Everyone Starts in a "private safe zone" where only they can build and no one can fight you. Everything you build is instant so no timer waiting to see if your castle will build today. This goes for your units as well. There are public safe zones which is littered with ugly pubbie garbage units. Procure some land by walling off a chunk with either ponies or actual walls. After you get some starter buildings up and get a feel for resource gain you use your Miner unit to build tunnels to go to a randomly generated maps Conquest tunnels teleport you to someone who made a risky tunnel. Risky tunnels give you first stake in a random zone but you need to defend it. and the other tunnels are safe ones so who cares what you do there. quote:Nucifero: how long did it take you to get to so many resources man Here is a pretty in depth starter guide for the game. It also explains tunnels Begginers Guide. Similar to the tunnels there are Whirlpools which are just water tunnels taking you to new places with more potential resources Units Here is a link that describes every unit and what they do/make All Units and Buildings here. BATTLE ARENA!!! Apparently people build castles and you communicate to battle a specific unit. You then travel there (with stone circle I imagine) then duke it out with the other player and winner gets a prize. These are all set up by other players who own castles. Also people host the arena, charge a resource entry fee and the winner takes all Cash Shop Yes, yes, I know cash shops suck but they need to make money somehow. Thankfully its not buy to win items, But you can spend as much money as you want on Resources. Which could give a huge advantage depending on how much you actually want to spend on the game. Throw all your money away on resources here. Meh, I'll check it out its free to play anyway http://www.ironfell.com/ There is also an actual client you can download if you dont want to play in your browser. Playin' wit' da goons Like I mentioned there is no guild system yet. People are tagging their in game names to show they are in so and so clan. According to everyone there is an upcoming update adding guild/clan so I don't think that will be needed. But you can trade resources with one another. So being networked together before that update will be helpful to collaborate our Conquering Goon Army You can build "Stone Circles" These as I have mistaken are actually in/out portals you can make to take you to a specific location. if they are not barricaded somehow anyone can use them So if you have a conquest or risky tunnel you might need help with you can build one in a location in that tunnel then another in a safe location friendly goons can get to and then we can pour in w/e units you need. I am in the game as Nucifero so you can send me messages by Finding my name in the general chat clicking on my name and coming to my "realm" then we can use realm chat to type if I'm on and you have questions or if you want to trade. In game help If you can't Find me Look for DaButler He isnt a goon but he knows pretty much everything about the game, and is on seemingly 24/7 or GM davidc He made the game and is on pretty regular as well I Update this thread as regularly as I can because I'm learning new things about the game very frequently. Post in here ask questions and I will do my very best to get an answer for you as fast as I can. Ironfell wiki In Progress Ironfell wiki Rock, Paper, Shotgun Article.They also have a beginner Video there Moon Sugar fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2013 around 19:09 |
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I'm in on this, just started an hour ago. How do I message you in game, or can we make a chat and both be in it? Honestly, I'm completely lost after the beginners guide. I've tried conquest tunnels, and they are completely filled out by other players. I have like zero direction after the beginner guide. Zotix fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 03:58 |
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Excellent. I was hoping some goons would jump on this. Hopefully the guild/faction system comes soon.
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The only thing I have been doing is building Risky Tunnels to get to regular iron nodes (usually 2 per map at 20k total) because Iron is such a pain to come by. basically the only way to get the Large Iron Mines which I think has 1,000,000 iron is to pvp kill and take the island from someone else. Or keep taking the whirlpools. I personally haven't done much with the nautical stuff yet I'm trying to get my iron/hr up from riskys. I have made Crazy amounts of Units to defend the people I sent delving through the Risky tunnels which I imagine can be found by other people because it says its a pvp zone. As far as messaging people apparently there is only whats called Realm Chat which you find the persons name in general chat and you go to their realm which enables you to talk in the chat they are in. So to message someone just click on their name on the right to go to their realms. You can also link people to a certain location using a URL. Its on the 3rd drop down arrow on the top. and also Conquest Tunnels:Go through mountains ranges, behind enemy fortifications and into dangerous realms already discovered by others. These always take you to someone else's dangerous PVP realm. Moon Sugar fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 07:20 |
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It seems like wood is the limiting factor early on, and iron will be the limiting factor after that. Wood is a pain in the rear end honestly, since woodcutters seem to be more or less retarded. Once you get iron and defend it, it seems like it'll be maintenance mode.
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Wood can be a pain but if you make a ton of trailblazer tunnels you can just spread out cut the trees down and make another trailblazer tunnel and rinse and repeat Use the "save location" option to save your risky tunnel spots so you can go back to them easily too
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I'll check this out. Sounds kind of like Spore, in that you go from lovely medieval dudes to space dudes - I'm a sucker for that. How do you like, select a group of units? If you double click it selects everything in a certain radius but I don't want my military and farmers together... Also is there any negative to just spamming as many farms as possible in your safe areas, a la city-spam in Civ 4? I'm going to make my starting area look nice, and the other areas (tree farms) I've found with trailblazer tunnels will be just farms on every spot. My stone circle's code is "Irongoon" in case anyone wants to check out my totally awesome (  ) starting area.
Moridin920 fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 10:44 |
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Not sure yet if I like the game, but I do love the random names for the areas.
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Mr. Wedenhart posted:Not sure yet if I like the game, but I do love the random names for the areas. They really are hilarious. I played in an player organized Battle Arena in this game earlier and it was tons of fun. We all started at 4 corners of the map build a quick civilization and tried to kill a guy who was really good at the game. he beat us all but gave each of us 25k resource for playing. Which is something they do frequently. have little skirmishes in a player controlled map. Moridin920 posted:How do you like, select a group of units? If you double click it selects everything in a certain radius but I don't want my military and farmers together... Ok so Grouping units is possible by standing them all next to eachother (Including buildings) and them executing an action (ie attack or move w/e) Farms: nope there isnt rly any negative I recommend going to a trailblazer and filling the entire thing with farms and doing it again to a new trailblazer with colleges. a safe haven for your buildings that free generate resource. Finally, Stone Circles: I kind of incorrectly explained the Stone Circles as they aren't clear what they do on the unit list and I wasn't 100% either. But the way they work is they basically just make a teleport to wherever you set a beginning and end. Not something you network together with multiple stone circles. Also anyone can use your stone circle if you don't block with a wall or safe zone "pony" wall Use carefully. If you are online I(anyone) can click on your name in general chat and see where you are looking and chat with you. aka realm chat. So if you are at your starter area and want me to see it i can just click your name and go there. Moon Sugar fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 11:08 |
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In the interest of pubbie tears I made a mini-LP, maybe some of you can get a better sense of the game: An exploratory ship sails through a whirlpool, leading it to a large watery PvP area. "Captain! Land ho!"  Looks like some other enterprising player has found a large iron deposit (1,000,000 units of iron) and has set up shop. Looks like a rich forest, too. Too bad it's undefended. We've established a beachhead.  And begun training troops.  Glorious slaughter! I've started fortifying the island against future invaders.   I hope that's enough troops? I have no concept at all of what a lot of units are at this stage, I'm a total noob. Looking to the north I spot another couple islands...  As undefended as the first! Another two large iron deposits to sieze (not pictured)! He hasn't even built a mine over the deposits.  What does policed by mean? Can I flood troops in and burn all I see?  edit:  
Moridin920 fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 11:29 |
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Policed means PvP to all but the owner. e: also that seems like a slight bit of overkill for one mine. 
Mr. Wedenhart fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 11:32 |
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There's two, the island goes up just a little bit more. Every square is covered like that and there's boats up there, too. I'll be leaving him alone. Can you kill stone circles? Moridin920 fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 11:53 |
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Neat game. I'm not sure I get how to gather wood efficiently, though. Trailblazer tunnels don't seem to give all that much, for all the other resources you have to put in. I'm probably wrong!
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Moridin920 posted:Glorious slaughter! I've started fortifying the island against future invaders. It should be ok but I recommend building as many manned towers as you can or can stand to make as you can set them to auto attack which is unlike your unit archer who only retaliates and posting swordsmen or knights around the base of the mine so if anyone brings catapults. *I'm looking at your setup now and its diff then the picture you posted, and it looks pretty good. maybe get some naval cogs to defend against a sea raid. Moridin920 posted:As undefended as the first! Another two large iron deposits to sieze (not pictured)! He hasn't even built a mine over the deposits. Me an another goon are blocking that lothar guy in on Ox Snake http://www.ironfell.com/play/45127/104/77 at this location we took 2 of his large mines 802.11weed posted:Neat game. I'm not sure I get how to gather wood efficiently, though. Trailblazer tunnels don't seem to give all that much, for all the other resources you have to put in. I'm probably wrong! No you are right. It's just for initial wood. you really have to spread out to the pvp realms to really reap a lot the resources. using the risky/conquest tunnels or going to the large continent pvp maps like in Moridin920's LP. (thanks for that btw) Also once your woodcutters have done a whole walk-trough of wherever you are cutting, Spread them out and turn auto gather back on and they will cut the trees when they pop up again. Moon Sugar fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 19:35 |
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Well, brace yourselves - Ironfell just showed up on RockPaperShotgun's frontpage. We goons need to band together.
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Alehkhs posted:Well, brace yourselves - Ironfell just showed up on RockPaperShotgun's frontpage. Yeah I added it to the OP an hour or so ago lol a lot of people are on now. Davidc just added a New ocean. Get on and claim your large mine stakes quick. you can get there by taking the whirlpool from ox snake Moon Sugar fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2013 around 20:39 |
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What is preventing someone from making a bunch of accounts and continuing to invade someone with troops until they're dead? My advice for new players is double clicking on your Home tunnel that spawns immediately when you join the game. Look at that island and see if there is any wood you can block off. If there is, make 1 of the basic buildings(just in case you screw something up), make a carpenter, send your carpenter through the tunnel to the safe island, make a stable in a strategic place up against the wood you want to block off, then make a poo poo load of ponies to block it in. Wood seems to be the hardest thing to get since it respawns so slowly.
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Korak posted:What is preventing someone from making a bunch of accounts and continuing to invade someone with troops until they're dead? For what it's worth, here's some info on multiple accounts from the FAQ: quote:Can I have more than one account?
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 I guess I really want to keep that mine? EDIT: Actually, I should probably ask since I'm still learning the system: Will this setup work that well? Do my units auto-attack hostiles in range? Eponymous fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2013 around 04:36 |
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Alright. In as Alehkhs.
Alehkhs fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2013 around 06:37 |
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Eponymous posted:
No to your question. The only unit that auto attacks is the Manned towers everything else just retaliates. Its still a good setup though. I would just throw more manned towers in there. Mainly around the mine and around their entrance
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Playing as caliso... starting out is really slow.  is easily spent on the resource pack.
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zhaligkeer posted:Playing as caliso... starting out is really slow. I didn't go that far i just spent $4 to get the 1 dollar in each resource and that helped out enormously. but yeah 20 bucks and you are well on your way. I cannot wait till they add guild faction stuff so we can start working towards some sort of goon Goal of total domination.
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Can you get into more than 1 big safe zone? I'm currently blocking off a bunch of wood on Isle of Bone, as did a lot of other people. My new suggestion is to spend resources for 1-3 conquest zones, spend the rest on looking at places you can spam ponies on a big safe zone island to take over wood spawns. Outside of this I don't see any other long-term efficient ways of getting wood. It's clear looking at how slowly wood spawns and how vital it is, I'm not even sure we can be a pubbie menace without spending $$$. DaButler you're gonna need to do some serious theorycrafting to figure this out.
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Dabutler has Stone circles on almost all safe zones, so yeah you can you just have to find them his color is blue and he normally has signs posted around the circle saying trade route or something. He's also not a goon just a very helpful player
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Moon Sugar posted:Dabutler has Stone circles on almost all safe zones, so yeah you can you just have to find them his color is blue and he normally has signs posted around the circle saying trade route or something. quote:He's also not a goon just a very helpful player 
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you're right. fixed.Korak posted:How do I get to DaButler's eight castle where he has all those stone circles? http://www.ironfell.com/play/44254/53/36 click on the stone circles to see where they come out at. I dunno how he has ALL of them set up or if he's got any on the newer safe zones yet. Moon Sugar fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2013 around 18:42 |
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Moon Sugar posted:you're right. fixed. Reading what some of the top players have is kinda astounding. One guy has 50,000,000 food and god knows what else. I'm really not seeing how you can go up against these people considering they always have *some* safe resources being renewed every day in safe zones. Even a mega alliance would only temp. have the advantage until the beaten player could get another army going. Several people with 7+ keeps/castles per person. Its kinda unreal. One person getting optimal conditions would take half a year or more to build up the resources for one + defenses + all the resource gathering needs.
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Yeah this seems pretty fun so far but I came to the same conclusion: the top players are so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else there's going to need to be better balancing or it isn't going to work. You would need a massive alliance to even touch a guy like DaButler with already hundreds of mines and practically half the safe zones ponied off. Seems to be increasingly hard for new people and the more resources you have the more advantages you get. edit: I'm sure he spent a bunch of cash to get to that point though. Spyde fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2013 around 23:07 |
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Spyde posted:Yeah this seems pretty fun so far but I came to the same conclusion: the top players are so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else there's going to need to be better balancing or it isn't going to work. You would need a massive alliance to even touch a guy like DaButler with already hundreds of mines and practically half the safe zones ponied off. Seems to be increasingly hard for new people and the more resources you have the more advantages you get. I'm coming to the same conclusions. Fun game with a wipe, get rid of safe places except for home base and put caps on how many buildings you can have on your home to prevent people from being so big they can endlessly spam units. Sadly I don't see any of this happening. It's going to take such an awful long time to build up to fight even the smaller people. I don't see guilds helping it unless every single aggressive + huge amount of resource type person decides to make their own team. Another fun thing to think about is all it would take is 1 person to be a little bit socialist and give out resources to people, to utterly break the game in some sort of resource-gathering pyramid scheme. DaButler says he's only spent $5 on the game.
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Korak posted:http://www.ironfell.com/stats Welp. Dabutler and several others recommend staying away from safe zones anyway. Talk to Davidc about the top players massive lead. I mean I'll submit these suggestions too but I'm sure he's mainly interested in seeing his game succeed. Which I cant blame him for. Maybe with enough people mentioning it he will do something about it. It's still fun to play and there has yet to even be and update or expansion like the Race to the stars. I'm sure David will see logic in the fact that if there isn't some sort of balance the people who have been playing since beta will just continue to reign supreme over everyone. I'm still interested in seeing where the game goes.
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I'll probably just sign on for a few minutes a day to chop my wood then see what the update supposedly coming out at the end of the month is like. Don't see the point in doing much more than that when some guys already have millions of iron. I don't know why he didn't do a wipe when the months-long beta ended at the very least.
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Indie game and he's the only dev. Maybe he didn't expect this many people to play. I dunno... I agree with you though, a wipe would have been logical
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Hey guys, i've been playing since september, i'm on as weskejak and korvis. Dave is a funny guy, he doesn't seem to want to change things unless obvious and obnoxious exploits force his hand. he's nice enough, but slow to change. i disagree with a wipe with the game in it's current state, all that would happen, is in 4 months everyone playing now would be ridiculously more powerful then the new players in 4 months. it's a perpetual cycle. and it would kill the persistent world feel that i assume he wants, and that i enjoy. in the older realms there are stalemated battles that sit undisturbed, showing a moment of time frozen. it give the entire game a feel of history, of depth. and i can go in and destroy that. it's a beautiful feeling. i do wish he would do something about the starter realms, but i don't see him changing any core mechanics to deal with it. if he deals with it at all. i don't think he understands how extremely unpopular it is, and that it's probably losing him players. he should just ditch them and have the mountain realms be the lobby, straight from home into a killing zone. that would be pretty harsh on the carebears. but like a lot of people have said. once you get to the sea realms, you never look back. we actually had an issue with a couple of players completely encircling the starter realms with wood bridges and ponies, so no one could get out to the sea realms, that's why there are whirlpools in your home realm now. dave removed the blockades, but when you have to do something like that, it indicates a broken system, which still isn't fixed. and makes the starter realms the most hated place in the entire game. which is not what you want peoples first impressions to be. the resource generation starts slowly and painfully, but at a certain point it begins to explode. after that, time spent in the game is more indicative of power then resources. i don't spend a lot of time in game and as a result people who are newer then me, like DeButler and lotar100 probably have more resources then me, which is a bias that is difficult to avoid in any pvp game. play more, kill more. anyone who spends a month playing casually developing their resources will be able to run with the big boys. which is a long time. that can be shortened by buying resources, or by having a patron. and this doesn't even get into the power of numbers, something goons should be well aware of. one person can only play so much, but a consolidated group would be impossible to deal with. so far, in game there have only been loose alliances of 2-3 people, sometimes more for very short periods of time. when 5+, 10+ solid players begin coordinating regularly, they will be unstoppable, the old kings of ironfell with seem like relics. on that note, if any of you need anything at all, let me know, you can also ask my friend sturmkrahe. i'm not super rich, but i could definitely set up you guys up. well, i might seem super rich to you guys. korvis fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2013 around 21:20 |
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Im in this game already actually taking some iron mines, willing to trade resources
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 02:51 |
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Having a blast in this, Its actually not that difficult to get self sufficient. They just implemented destructible keeps and the tears are amazing.
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It's fun getting on after a few days and having a TON of resources to work with 
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