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reallivedinosaur posted:No vegans tend to jump on any thread that has to do with meat looking down their noses at everyone. So when someone acts like that, it's generally a safe conclusion. Except my post wasn't doing that, and that wasn't the point of the example. But anyways, no point continuing with this when you didn't fully read and comprehend before replying in the first place. Have a silly day! 
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Slanderer posted:it's funny when you don't read the article and just assume that the thread title is accurate and then hit POST What about my post is inaccurate? EDIT: The 30%? Tesco's Everyday Value Beef Burgers literally had around 29% Horse meat. It's in the article. Xachariah fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2013 around 21:05 |
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Is anyone really shocked by this? I thought it was common knowledge that Iceland/Lidl/Tesco Value "meat" was made from sawdust and the slurry swept off of the killing-floor of the slaughterhouse.
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The cartoon stereotypes are really coming out in force. The smug cynical dullard, the apathetic consumer whore, the wacky bitter vegan. One more and we can begin drafting the script for the live-action movie!
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The reason horse meat is illegal in the UK isn't because we have an emotional attachment to equids, market forces would take care of that. It is because we use Bute here, which is a highly effective pony painkiller that just so happens to cause aplastic anaemia in children. That is why the proper labelling of food and control over the supply chain is important - because if we don't keep controls it is not just potentially gross but fatal.
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:This didn't happen in the US. Hahaha oh gently caress, so much for my reading skills! Sorry : /
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ColoradoCleric posted:You are always going to have problems lifting the body in one piece, apparently the best thing to do is cut up the body into six pieces and pile it all together. And when you got your six pieces you've got to get rid of them cuz its no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You've got to starve the pigs for a few days then the sight of a chopped up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You've got to shave the heads of your victims and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggy's digestion. You could do this afterwards of course , but you don't want to go sieving through pig poo poo now do ya? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least 16 pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about 8 minutes. That means that a single pig can consume 2 pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Transubstantiation into bacon sounds like the r/atheism version of paradise.
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Article posted:"poo poo's hosed up" one local bystander told The Independent. I love how this is casually thrown into the middle of the article. I literally laughed out loud.
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Going on for over 20 years that I know of, I know the distinct taste of horse, I don't care for it. Also, a lot of 'Fish Finger'-like products contain SHARK.
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Stuntcock posted:Also, a lot of 'Fish Finger'-like products contain SHARK. The difference being that while sharks are a kind of fish, horses are not a type of cow.
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Horses are sent up to Canada to be slaughtered for meat all the time. Thanks to globalization just because you can't process horse meat in one country doesn't mean that it doesn't end up in food products eventually after travelling through a couple other countries first. It's like honey that is nothing but HFCS. Send your food product across a couple borders and the details all disappear!
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ColoradoCleric posted:You are always going to have problems lifting the body in one piece, apparently the best thing to do is cut up the body into six pieces and pile it all together. And when you got your six pieces you've got to get rid of them cuz its no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You've got to starve the pigs for a few days then the sight of a chopped up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You've got to shave the heads of your victims and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggy's digestion. You could do this afterwards of course , but you don't want to go sieving through pig poo poo now do ya? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least 16 pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about 8 minutes. That means that a single pig can consume 2 pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton Up to 49 victims.
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KimT posted:I was drinking "Tesco Everyday Value Pure Orange Juice" when I found this thread. Don't be silly now, they don't put horse blood into the orange juice They just put a hefty helping of horse semen, helps bind it together and doesn't give it that awful rust color
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Cantorsdust posted:Worst case scenario: someone's loving your hamburger meat God drat it Twigand Berries.
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I still don't understand how horse would be cheaper than beef. They mass produce beef, but they don't horses. Supply and demand doesn't work!
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I have a box of the cheapest Tesco burgers ("seasoned" version) in my freezer. They're from like a month or two ago. I ate two and I'm distressed What do I do with them, they cost one pound
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Wki posted:I still don't understand how horse would be cheaper than beef. They mass produce beef, but they don't horses. Supply and demand doesn't work! Maybe this is all surplus from tripping horses in movies in the 50s. Yeah I don't know where they got all that many horses, they tend to be used for stuff. That is pretty strange.
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Drunk & Ugly posted:I have a box of the cheapest Tesco burgers ("seasoned" version) in my freezer. They're from like a month or two ago. Poop them
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JoeyJoJoJr Shabadoo posted:Well Taco Bell and poo poo are like 90% roach meat and rat piss so finding some horse in meat, in comparison, is pretty drat good. Growing up, I used to love chowing down on those Meximelts they used to sell (and probably still sell,  ). Well, one day I was happily chowing down on one until I bit something hard. Really hard. Like bone hard.So I spit out part of that Meximelt and out comes something that vaguely looks like a tooth. A rat's tooth. Til this day, I'm not completely sure if that was a tooth that had previously belonged to any small animal, but I never ate another Meximelt or any other beef product from Taco Bell.
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30 percent of my poop is horse
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Wki posted:I still don't understand how horse would be cheaper than beef. They mass produce beef, but they don't horses. Supply and demand doesn't work! There are a couple of possibilities here. One is that it was horse meat intended for human consumption and that it somehow got mislabelled - in which case the processing plants were supplied with a more expensive product than they paid for. Another is that it was horse meat not intended for human consumption, in which case the processing plants received a less expensive product than what they paid for because knackeries don't raise livestock prior to slaughtering it. If it was pet food grade horse meat which was sent to the processing plants, it needs to be determined whether that was done by accident or whether the suppliers were intentionally shipping an inferior product to increase profits.
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Drunk & Ugly posted:30 percent of my poop is horse That's fine, that's normal.
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BAKA FLOCKA FLAME posted:That's fine, that's normal. OK but my friend called and 30 percent of his horse is poop
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We had a horsemeat sandwich topping here (Sweden) which used to simply be called "horse meat" but for some reason it later mostly changed to "hamburger meat" instead Either way it is delicious Zzulu fucked around with this message at Jan 19, 2013 around 00:32 |
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Drunk & Ugly posted:30 percent of my poop is horse Poop 3 and 1/3 times and gallop away
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False labeling like this is an insult to my people and my culture because we live by breeding, nurturing and racing horses before we sell them to slaughter.
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Drunk & Ugly posted:30 percent of my poop is horse 30 percent of mine is horse poop. Ein posted:False labeling like this is an insult to my people and my culture because we live by breeding, nurturing and racing horses before we sell them to slaughter. Seabiscuit was delicious.
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Wki posted:30 percent of mine is horse poop. Instead of a meal fit for a champion, you get a meal made of a champion.
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Wingless posted:As a vegetarian I am massively unsympathetic towards people that claim to be disgusted by the presence of horse meat in their burgers. Yes there is an ethical issue around labeling, that is valid. But you happily chomp away on some mammals and get upset at eating traces of others? Bah. Yes, i am selective when pursuing my love of mammal chomping.
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gently caress your Double Whopper, I've a horse outside.
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Megaspel posted:Personally, I wouldn't mind that much, but the big thing is that letting a meat industry regulate itself is god drat terrible and stupid to hell and back. Plus, some people aren't allowed to eat pig meat and now they're going to be damned forever or something. I've been in the meat industry in Australia for the last 5 years working for export Abattoirs processing 500 cows or 5000 lambs a day and this blows my loving mind, especially being involved in exporting to the EU before. We have to have at least 3 vets employed by the Australian government on site any time we're killing (and there's usually 4-5), one for the slaughter floor, one in the boning room, and one floater/supervisor. Ontop of that there's audits by regional managers every 3 months at best (more frequent depending on how badly you scored on your last few audits), where they go over everything from the animals coming off the truck to the cartons leaving in a container/truck with a fine tooth comb for 2-3 days. I think the craziest thing is that regulations to export to the EU from here are among the tightest out there. If the industry here went self regulated, I would become a vegetarian overnight because I know what the industry is like, but too be clear, it wouldn't be because I don't want to eat horse meat, but more because of quality control. Wki posted:I still don't understand how horse would be cheaper than beef. They mass produce beef, but they don't horses. Supply and demand doesn't work! Supply and demand is why the horses are cheap. Horses get killed when they're old and useless, it's better to get $1/kg dressed weight than to get nothing for it dieing in the paddock and the livestock is understandably the main cost for any meat processor, so cheap horses mean cheap meat. Beef is in much higher demand and means that the cows cost a shitload more than a horse would. Rudager fucked around with this message at Jan 19, 2013 around 09:01 |
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From now on, I'm going to make burgers out of anyone coming into this thread to declare they 'don't get why this is an issue', inform us that junk food often has unpleasant things in, or line up strawmen about people being appalled by the notion of eating horse.
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Deadeye Dick posted:gently caress your Double Whopper, I've a horse outside. 
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GreenCard78 posted:People deserve to be told truthfully what they're getting is what they're getting. If your vegetables, fruit, bread, Snickers, whatever weren't what they were advertised, you would care, too. Being a vegetarian doesn't excuse you from empathy of others. StrangersInTheNight posted:As a vegetarian you should at least respect that people have the right to know what they're putting in their bodies, consent and all that jazz. Or would you be excited to find out your favorite brand of soy product contained slurry chemical byproduct they tossed in just as filler with no mention anywhere on the labeling? InterceptorV8 posted:So do you want to know what major organic veggie outdoor sorter is right next door to the sewer treatment plant poo poo ponds? That was a horrible place, and human feces had to have been everywhere. Did all y'all miss the bit where I said "there is an ethical issue around labeling, that is valid"? Maybe I wasn't clear: Companies have a legal and moral duty towards full disclosure of the origin and content of foodstuffs. If someone lies or there is a major gently caress up in that regard then they have done a bad thing. People expressing these concerns are sensible people. But I live in Ireland and I've spoken to lots of people about this horse meat thing and I've had three specifically tell me that their concern is that they are disgusted at the idea of eating horse meat because eating horses is morally wrong and eating cows is ok because they said so.
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Wingless posted:Did all y'all miss the bit where I said "there is an ethical issue around labeling, that is valid"? Maybe I wasn't clear: Companies have a legal and moral duty towards full disclosure of the origin and content of foodstuffs. If someone lies or there is a major gently caress up in that regard then they have done a bad thing. People expressing these concerns are sensible people. But I live in Ireland and I've spoken to lots of people about this horse meat thing and I've had three specifically tell me that their concern is that they are disgusted at the idea of eating horse meat because eating horses is morally wrong and eating cows is ok because they said so. This is my only concern. Horse and pig in my burger doesn't actually bother me, but a large company outright lying about what it is I'm eating is pretty lovely. In South Africa misleading the public about the content of e.g. meat is a huge loving deal legally. Horses are psychopathic and can kill you while cows are docile and can actually be really friendly. So frankly eat all horses.
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Wingless posted:Did all y'all miss the bit where I said "there is an ethical issue around labeling, that is valid"? Splicer fucked around with this message at Jan 19, 2013 around 18:49 |
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Splicer posted:Did y'all miss the bit where you said "But you happily chomp away on some mammals and get upset at eating traces of others? Bah.? Who is this "you"? Are you talking about the people in this thread? Because the people in this thread have been stating time and time again that their major issue is the implications of a failure in the traceability of the supply chain. It's nice that some of your friends are reactionary idiots but unless some of them are posting in this thread then you've pretty much no reason to get mad at people for "misunderstanding" your completely contextless "gently caress you, you meat-eating hypocrites!" post. I'm not mad. The "you" was a hypothetical reactionary person that I was imagining talking to. You (Splicer) really seem like you're trying to find a way to make it look like I was criticising you. I wasn't. I'm talking about the people that I've spoken to, the ones I described in my last post.
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Pipski posted:From now on, I'm going to make burgers out of anyone coming into this thread to declare they 'don't get why this is an issue', inform us that junk food often has unpleasant things in, or line up strawmen about people being appalled by the notion of eating horse. I'd be more concerned about the horses eating the strawmen.
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Wingless posted:I'm not mad. The "you" was a hypothetical reactionary person that I was imagining talking to. You (Splicer) really seem like you're trying to find a way to make it look like I was criticising you. I wasn't. I'm talking about the people that I've spoken to, the ones I described in my last post. Well you did kind of go off about plebs getting offended because they're munching the wrong mammal or something like that. e: To put it more plainly the whole "As a vegetarian blah blah mammal munchers" thing is probably hilarious when you say it in person, but over the internet it comes off as a douche-y snip at the unenlightened. This is why people are posting at you. Marxalot fucked around with this message at Jan 19, 2013 around 16:27 |
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rejutka posted:I'd be more concerned about the horses eating the strawmen. This is about the only thing that makes any sense so far. Horsies eat straw, right? Sure, you'll need to stuff another strawman, but you'll get plenty of proper, fibrous, healthy road apples. Unless you're feeding your horse some horse, of course and oh God we've all got spongiform encephalopathy anyway.
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