Andre Banzai posted:

Oh yeah, Fargin Icehole, also: build Alloy SHIVs and USE THEM. They are awesome.

Andre Banzai posted:

Hahahahaha please explain. I think I know where you're coming from, but I'd like to know what your thoughts are anyway. And in your opinion, is Impossible fair?

Captain Beans posted:

That would be a great option. I feel like xcom is at it's best when you are far from that perfect load out and are trying to scrape by using whatever limited resources you have at hand.

Red Crown posted:

Wow, this sure is X-Com. I went from managing my life pretty well to getting hosed with a rusty iron rod after the first base assault. Now I'm staring down packs of Mutons sticking close together and cyberdiscs and I cannot keep up.

Icon Of Sin posted:

I wonder if EW will be like an alt history, where the XCOM project was terminated (complete with Sectoid Commander mind controlling the Council representative) and XCOM has to survive as a more-or-less private/self-funded entity, with governments and aliens that are friendly, neutral, hostile, etc? Welcome back, Apocalypse

MadJackMcJack posted:

Wait, what trailer?

Sardonik posted:

Pause this carefully at around :32. You can clearly see a logo, this will be the logo of the mind-controlled human faction you fight against that they haven't announced yet I bet. Cult of Siris 2.0 right here.

Christian Knudsen posted:

Yeah, they could just be talking about a single unit when saying that you can't go all the way with both -- and not the overall research.

Andre Banzai posted:

Anyway, here are some interesting news:

(from http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/22/4643478/xcom-enemy-within-gamescom-2013-garth-deangelis)

On the subject of assimilating alien parts, DeAngelis suggested that while the mechanic is a tidy way to tie the new classes into the game, players should think about the more ethical or emotional implications that come with it.

"You're taking these pieces of alien technology, and it's more so than just giving them to your scientists and engineering them, you're assimilating them inside of you to use against aliens," he said. "There's more to it than that, but I'll leave it at that for now."

euphronius posted:

Ananda seemed pretty on the ball in the video, but that could just be marketing speak. It's hard for developers to judge difficulty anyway in my experience.

Kelp Plankton posted:

Since I hadn't seen anyone make a clearer image of that mystery logo yet, I whipped something up.



I feel like there's some missing text that should be either filling in that empty lower half of the logo, or sitting above or below it. Which seems like an obvious thing.

Ekster posted:

So, I bought this game 2 weeks ago and have been playing on normal Ironman difficulty...

I finished the alien base for the first time, and really felt that things were starting to come together. I had an abduction mission afterwards which was in this incredibly tiny map. It's basically a construction field which one soldier can see about three-quarters of. During the first turn I saw no aliens at all, then they all seemed to teleport in. Because the map is so tiny, all the aliens were activated at the same time. Three insectoids, three thin men, and three mutons (first time I've seen them in my game).

I have no idea how I'm supposed to deal with this. I could easily deal with this if it was on a larger map, but the problem is that the moment I get out of the entrance I'm flanked by mutons. When I stay at the entrance, I have no choice but to bunch them up, which makes the mutons grenade them.

Since I'm playing ironman I have no choice but to retreat, since I stopped and saved after my team was almost massacred (no deaths yet though). How am I supposed to deal with this in the future?

ZergRushing posted:

Rescue UK to get all of Europe's panic levels down. If you choose one of the others you risk losing Russia forever (which is BIG BUXXX). You should never be picking China here and Mexico is only an option if the reward is better and you think Russia won't leave after the mission (like if they just went red) and you can get a sat up on it in a couple days. Pick an asian country for your next mission to get Australia's panic down. I'm pretty sure sats make a country's panic go up more slow so don't worry about the Aussies for now

Drifter posted:

Ehh, if you run with the idea that psychic powers travel similarly to radiation or something you just have to have a thing that prevents that. It doesn't matter what it is so much as how it travels through the aether.

quiggy posted:

I have to admit that I'm a little concerned about EXALT after watching this. I know that one of the stated reasons they're a threat is because of sheer numbers, but there are just so goddamn many enemies in this demo that I can't see a way you could possibly get through this mission unscathed. I feel like if the EXALT were a little bit more powerful on a per-unit basis but only brought, say, 10-12 soldiers to a battle it would be a little more reasonable. As it stands they just seem incredibly powerful on a pure zerg-rush level.

Oh, and I shudder to think of how many EXALT will appear on Impossible missions

Mr Dog posted:

I'm still trying to think what would be the most broken skillset this would generate

Run & Gun (Assault)
Lightning Reflexes
Rapid Fire
HEAT Ammo
Sprinter
Extra Conditioning
Holo-targeting In The Zone

Trilin posted:

The AI forgoing a unit's original intended gimmick in order to make the most optimal play isn't always the best idea.

Crazy Ferret posted:

I don't see this ending in a good way short of some straight up miracle magic

Sober posted:

If you can extract stabilized people he should've done that, ghosted dpope and friends, then just try to have both his MECs tank hits instead. He's still screwed super hard no matter what cause a MC would just be icing on the cake for the aliens.

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

I'm a big fan of Beagle's work, but I tend to hit the highlight reel. When I'm watching the Long War Live & Impossible youtube series, I can play at double speed and keep things moving quickly, but that's not an option in the Twitch archives. So, I have a request - can anyone link me to the video with that 57 health berserker in it and gimme a timestamp so I can laugh at Beagle's pain and revel in his victory?

Ravenfood posted:

Its very doable. Beagle bounced back from a failed base defense, iirc. Its hard, but with how long techs take to build up, you can be falling behind the aliens and then suddenly get a major edge once, say, ultracap lasers come online.

Antti posted:

Doctor Reynolds posted:

nooo

Zoran posted:

Here's a cleaned-up version of the layout I just posted:
The power sector and workshop sector can be swapped, depending on where the steam is.

Early building priorities:
1. Dig out the first square on the right and rush-build a laboratory. Having a lab up by March ~20 is huge for early research timing.
2. Dig toward the top-left corner and build a generator there.
3. Get the OTS as soon as possible.
4. Dig toward the nearest steam vent, and build a thermo generator.
5. Grab a workshop and the foundry. You should be able to get the workshop online before you get Advanced Lasers, which saves a chunk on weapon upgrades.
6. If you build most of the temporary fission generators, you should have enough power to add another laboratory, the alien containment, two more satellite uplinks, and the cybernetics lab. Usually, I do my first expansion in June.

Building all this stuff means selling artifacts really aggressively—UFO power sources and elerium are good things to sell, because you don't need them early.

Indecisive posted:

Nah there's no point, this thread isn't exactly booming with business.

Corvinus posted:

A LW campaign can reasonably be finished by summer/fall '16, it's just that Beagle had a few setbacks and the aliens ended up with a good research/resource advantage. If Beagle hadn't been behind on PSI/resources he would have rolled those through those crowds much more quickly. It's also possible to have multiple PSIs with Rift by this time and that ability will murder large packs of almost every alien type with trivial ease.

Apple2o posted:

So is it a good tactic to set up overwatch walls then pull pods with your sniper? Or even just pull pods with a scout then retreat back to overwatch? Currently i've just been scanning where they are and trying to sneak up on them and engage for a 1 turn wipe (like I did all early-game). However this back-fires alot. The pods will activate early, or ill get caught mid-move by random other pods. My guys are beefy enough to usually not die outright from a mistake, but having a mechtoid put someone in the hospital for 50 days is really annoying.

I watch people like beagle play and they move around flank and stuff during fights; but when I do that I always seem to find more pods that come and mess me up. I've now made it as far as I ever have in an LW campaign (NSLW august) and I feel like I need some new tactics for engaging fights. I'm starting to hit the big-boy aliens (berserkers, sectoid commanders, etc) and they are dropping dudes left and right if I don't fight them under pristine conditions.

Antti posted:

Now to be fair he kind of got into this mess himself by dragging his feet on the campaign progression, but I think what's toxic is he's too stubborn to call the campaign a lost cause because of sunk cost fallacy. I'm going to get on the high horse and say he'd probably feel better in the long run if he just junked the TNX campaign and started from scratch.

dyzzy posted:

So 2K games has a new teaser website up and speculation on /r/xcom is already rampant:

http://www.adventfuture.org/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/379wqq/commanders_it_looks_like_the_second_invasion_may/

It seems some XCOM assets, like font and in-game movie posters were re-used. I'm a huge pessimist though so this probably just means it's Bioshock: Future Dystopia.

Notorious QIG posted:

Eh, it could be a new Bioshock, what with the failed utopian imagery and all. More XCOM is definitely preferred, of course.