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 It's MMA. One fighter wins (generally), and one is out. It may not have been a knockout, it may not have been a submission, it may have ended not with a bang but with a barely audible fart. Regardless, the fight is over. The fight itself may be monumental, changing the future of mma, but most often the easiest moment for many fans to remember is the end. This thread is to celebrate or mock the best and the worst of fight finishes. Let's try to post a bit of information for each fight, events surrounding it, anything important. Was it a legit knockout? Did that fighter really tap? Is the end of the fight in question, and hotly debated? Did the referee clearly want that man dead? To start off, I'd have to go with a couple that were brought back to my mind as of late. Johny Hendricks Vs. Martin Kampmann: Knockout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk8wAxE2kXE I like Hendricks a lot, and it was a very decisive victory that lead to Nick Diaz being given a title shot. I thought the knockdown was well done, but the running punch at the end filled me with fear even pre-slow mo replay. Few punches make me uncomfortable, but that hit definitely elicited a cringe. Josh Rosenthal vs. Mark Munoz: Murder by Weidman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bXNXkoilRQ (sorry about the tv recording) This fight, combined with the Nurmagomedov vs. Tavares pushed me to just make the thread. Some argue Rosenthal couldn't tell Munoz was out, but seriously. It was the first fight I saw that made me stand up and yell at the screen when I saw that. It was a decisive win, and a good lesson in how to assault an unconscious man. I will be adding more down the line, but what are the best and worst finishes you remember? The end of a hugely hyped match like Silva/Sonnen II? Bob Sapp's double leg tap out? Or just a really good, back and forth match that cemented two fighter's legacies? Please post all of Miragliotta's gently caress ups, thanks in advance. Saints Crow fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2013 around 03:14 |
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| # ? May 19, 2013 06:26 |
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Good idea for a thread. Two that stick out are Anderson Silva front kicking Vitor Belfort in the face: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGD0qxRSmjU#t=7s  Second is Scott Smith knocking out Pete sell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8saDZwNy0dQ This is one of the knockouts that got me into MMA, it's just cool seeing a guy crumple then unleash a straight right as his opponent comes in for the kill, sending him to the mat. It's like a Rocky movie or something out of professional wrestling. Also Hendseron vs. Bisping You had to watch the whole season of Ultimate Fighter to really appreciate the catharsis of this knockout. It was like clearing a kidney stone or something, Bisping spends the entire season of TUF acting like a jackass. Henderson is pretty laid back through it all. This is what happens in their fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDNU_vafgDk#t=1071s So long MMA in Britain!
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 03:31 |
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Gonzaga's head kick on Cro Crop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=199Ts4MZEiM
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 03:40 |
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I don't know if this is my favorite finish, but it does have my favorite post-fight noises. Alexander "Storm" Shlemenko vs Robert "Bubba" McDaniel http://fliiby.com/file/123243/he5hmzi5jt.html Shlemenko spends most of this fight on his back, but there is some good grappling between the two. Both fighters fish for submissions, but there's nothing really major in the fight. With under one minute left, Shlemenko gets to his feet and decides to go for his signature move, the spinning backfist. He misses, and gets taken down again. Alex manages to get up again, and with seconds left in the round, feints, then throws a flying knee, catching McDaniel in the chest, dropping him. The cool part is that the ref and Bubba's corner thinks it was a groin shot, while Alex celebrates and Bubba just goes "HURGH!". It finally comes out that McDaniel's heart is gonna die, and Shlemenko is awarded the victory. Watch this fight, it is cool, you get to hear a man's death rattle.
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 04:08 |
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Mochiloc posted:Gonzaga's head kick on Cro Crop You didn't include any of the important context which is good stuff for this one. Cro Cop was a huge favorite going into this fight, having won the Openweight PRIDE Grand Prix the previous year (though if you look at it critically, this wasn't really that impressive) and dominating his first UFC opponent. He would win here and move on to the money fight against Randy Couture for the belt, an easy to sell narrative. Also, he was pretty well known for highlight reel headkick knockouts (though he didn't do this quite as often as people might think. But marketing distorts perceptions.) Gonzaga then proceeds to do to Cro Cop what he had done so famously. Cro Cop's career never recovered, leaving me (and I'm sure many others) wondering if he was ever even all that good in the first place.
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 04:47 |
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Matt Hughes vs Carlos Newton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xop5LsIJ7Ck Carlos Newton had just defeated Pat Miletich to win the welterweight title, and Hughes was his first title defense, in addition to being from the same fight camp as Pat. In the fight, Newton got taken down by Hughes, but locked up a triangle choke. Being a strong wrestler, Hughes just stood up and walked Newton to the fence. After a couple seconds, Hughes powerbombed Newton, knocking out Carlos and winning the welterweight title. BUT WAS IT INTENTIONAL? Immediately afterwards, it becomes apparent that Hughes had no idea what happened, and the slam could have been due to Matt passing out. Should it have been a no contest? I kind of think so, but I guess it really doesn't matter since Hughes TKO'd Newton in the rematch. Anyway, Newton should have won based on his entrance alone - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC7ruTLWwoE
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 23:22 |
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Officially, the reason they gave Hughes the win was because he woke up first.
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 23:35 |
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fatherdog posted:Officially, the reason they gave Hughes the win was because he woke up first. Newton still got done dirty 
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| # ? Jan 20, 2013 23:39 |
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Cain Velasquez vs. Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzY5ID5JfGo This fight was not supposed to happen. After losing the Heavyweight belt to Junior Dos Santos on the first UFC on Fox show ever, Velasquez was supposed to fight Frank Mir and Silva was coming in from Strikeforce, coming off of a KO loss to Daniel Cormier; He was originally scheduled to fight Roy Nelson. However, Alistair Overeem lost his title shot against Junior Dos Santos due to a failed Pre-fight drug test and was suspended, putting him out of action for the year. So Mir got Overeem's title shot (he lost the match) and Velasquez and Silva were then scheduled to fight as the Co-Main. The fight was one of the most brutal, gory spectacles I have ever seen in MMA. Five seconds into the fight, Cain caught Silva's kick and took him down. Bigfoot would remain on his back for the rest of the fight, getting his face tenderized by Cain's Ground and Pound, eventually losing by TKO. Cain would go on to defeat JDS in a rematch for the belt.
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| # ? Jan 21, 2013 09:06 |
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That was one of the most lopsided beatings I have ever seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSpZZHBupA Pat Smith vs. Scott Morris. Oldtime UFC fans remember this one well, it was from UFC 2. Sorry for the silly video editing, but beyond that this might be the most horrific beatdown in UFC history - the referee didn't have the power to stop the fight and Smith could have pounded Morris into mush if he wanted to. The video doesn't show it, but there was a moment right after Smith got up and yelled at the crowd where he turned back to Smith and realized that the fight wasn't over! The towel flies in right after. And that's thankfully that. Then there was Remco vs. Orlando, Royce vs. Smith (if the towel hadn't been thrown in there, either), Tank vs. Matua... whole lot of nasty stuff in the early days. Refs either couldn't do anything or didn't know to do anything. acejackson42 fucked around with this message at Jan 21, 2013 around 12:11 |
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EliteXC, a newcomer to the national MMA scene, was quickly making inroads. They had a number of young, marketable fighters on the rise, including Gina Carano, Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva, Phil Baroni, and the recently signed Kimbo Slice. CBS, who had already broadcast three EliteXC shows on its cable channel Showtime, was looking to take MMA national, and to take it to broadcast television. EliteXC: Primetime was scheduled for May 31, 2008, from the Prudential Center in New Jersey live on CBS. The main card featured Kimbo Slice against James Thompson, Robbie Laweler against Scott Smith, as well as Gina Carano and Phil Baroni. The undercard featured mostly fighters pulled from the local MMA scene in New Jersey. That's where our man Serra comes in. Matt Serra was an icon in our sport. His fighting career spanned three decades. He was featured in one of the first MMA fights broadcast on cable television. A BJJ blackbelt under Renzo Gracie, he placed highly at numerous grappling tournaments, including second place at ADCC 2001 (76kg division), and was a Pan Am champion at purple belt. He was the first fighter to compete on The Ultimate Fighter and to later coach The Ultimate Fighter. He would shock the world, beating George St. Pierre for the welterweight title in 2007, his crowning achievement in this sport. Many fans will tell you to this day that Matt Serra is what got them interested in mixed martial arts. This man is not that man. This is his brother. Nick Serra vs. Matt Makowski http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--kqaR4QAHE Nick Serra, a veteran of six pro fights (including a fight at UFC 37.5), was scheduled to take on Matt Makowski, a newcomer to the sport carrying a 2-0 record. In the first round. Makowski, a muay thai fighter, quickly gave up his back, spending over a minute bent at the waist with the BJJ black belt Nick Serra draped all over him. Makowski was able to free himself slamming Serra to the canvas. After standing up, they would continue to exchange with Makowski getting the better of the striking while avoiding Serra's attempts at takedowns. The secound round started much the same way the first ended, with Makowski landing some strong kicks and Serra unable to get the younger fighter to the ground. At 1:39 of the second round, Serra unleased his secret weapon. He fell on his rear end, and stayed there. He got back to his feet, and at 1:22, he tried it again. At 1:03, the fight was over. The result of the fight, a win for Makowski, via TKO (would not stand up from butt scoot).
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| # ? Jan 21, 2013 11:44 |
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Meat Recital posted:
IMPORTANT NOTE: This happened about a month after Nick Serra made fun of GSP for being a "quitter" who didn't have any heart.
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| # ? Jan 21, 2013 16:51 |
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"The Korean Zombie" Chan-Sung Jung vs. Mark "The Machine" Hominick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqzht3_533w Both of these fighters were coming off spectacular performances in their last fights. Jung came in with a vengeful victory over Leonard Garcia in which he submitted him to a twister, netting him a Sub of the Night. Hominick was coming off a decision loss to Featherweight champ Jose Aldo, giving him Fight of the night Honors. Jung walked away with one of the fastest TKO victories in the UFC, gaining KO of the night honors, and going on to submit Dustin Poirier before being sidelined with a shoulder injury. The fight also marked the beginning of the downward spiral of Hominick's career. He would drop two decision losses before retiring from the sport.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 04:03 |
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Question for someone more knowledgeable: I know Sakuraba is infamous for taking horrifying beatings (or perhaps Japanese MMA is infamous for allowing him to take horrifying beatings), but what are the more obvious examples of this?
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 19:22 |
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Question for someone more knowledgeable: I know Sakuraba is infamous for taking horrifying beatings (or perhaps Japanese MMA is infamous for allowing him to take horrifying beatings), but what are the more obvious examples of this? Mostly it was throwing him at Wanderlei three times in a row with only a fight with Crocop for a break, back when Wandy was in full face-stomping form.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 19:27 |
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vs Arona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUbi2jdLwC0#t=13m vs Melvin Manhoef: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRus6JjB5CA and this one too, even though he turns it into a ridiculous comeback: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X8-Zl-fds4
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 19:43 |
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I'd always known Saku got thrown to the wolves, but until I chewed my way through the PRIDE legacy DVDs I had no idea they made him fight Wandy the first time on the very show they decided to legalize four-point attacks to facedown fighters. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during that rules meeting.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 19:46 |
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Even though Saku won in 2 minutes, he took some heavy shots in the Galesic fight too. And his ear almost fell off against Zaromskis. The latter part of his career has been really, really rough.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 19:53 |
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The Galesic fight was hosed because I'm pretty sure Saku had destroyed the guy's knee at that point, but instead of tapping Galesic decided to hit Saku a bunch.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 20:20 |
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God those are nasty. Poor Sakuraba.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 20:21 |
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1st AD posted:The Galesic fight was hosed because I'm pretty sure Saku had destroyed the guy's knee at that point, but instead of tapping Galesic decided to hit Saku a bunch. Zelg Galesic posted:At first I was held in a heel hook, and then I felt my heel snap. But I didn't want to give up so I pounded him. Then he got me in an ankle hold and I felt another snap. Still, I pounded. Then he got my knee so I tapped out.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 20:41 |
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7...ve-herman_sport If being embarrassed and folded in half over the ropes by a Korean heavyweight isn't a dizzying enough high, Dave Herman is outshone when Choi's own cornerman accidentally ko's him with a hug. It's probably the best thing to ever happen.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 21:15 |
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Meat Recital posted:Even though Saku won in 2 minutes, he took some heavy shots in the Galesic fight too. And his ear almost fell off against Zaromskis. The latter part of his career has been really, really rough. I can't believe that fight was less than two minutes. I had to check to be sure. I just remember Sakuraba taking that beating and it felt like it went on forever. It felt like he was becoming a vegetable before our eyes.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 21:25 |
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in heaven, all mma is that moment in Silva/Sakuraba I where Saku knocked Wandy all wobbly stretched into eternity e: Steve Glutenberg posted:If being embarrassed and folded in half over the ropes by a Korean heavyweight isn't a dizzying enough high, Dave Herman is outshone when Choi's own cornerman accidentally ko's him with a hug. It's probably the best thing to ever happen. Or maybe this, theology is uncertain on such matters
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 23:43 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tVTuNZ3Zw Travis Fulton vs Jeremy Bullock. In this match, you can see a brutal slam end not just a match, but Bullock's MMA career about 3 minutes after it officially began. Travis Fulton would go on to fight like 600 more times who cares. Also Fulton was like 50 pounds heavier. What I'm saying is I'm not sure if this is a high or low.
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 02:08 |
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Anderson Silva vs Yushin Okami I The last time Anderson Silva lost a fight in MMA was in 2006, when he faced Yushin Okami in Hawaii-based promotion Rumble on the Rock 8. Silva was already known as a dangerous striker, whereas Okami was much weaker on the feet than he is now and relied mostly on his ground-and-pound. As the first round began, Okami worked to get the takedown with little success, getting tuned up in the standup. Finally he landed a single and got Silva on his back, and was working his ground-and-pound and beginning to find some success: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CUVdwty2dw With Okami postured up in his guard, both knees still firmly on the ground, Anderson threw a blatantly illegal headkick which knocked him senseless. In the video you can see Silva struggling with the referee, trying to push past and complete the TKO. However, since Okami is unable to continue after an illegal strike, Silva takes a disqualification loss instead. This is one of my favorite finishes, both because of how well Silva executed the kick, and because of how weird it is for him to have done it. Silva claimed afterwards that he had been unaware that it was illegal, which is slightly plausible because up to that time he had spent most of his career in promotions (Pride and Cage Rage) where kicks to downed opponents were legal. That said, it seems pretty dumb to agree to a fight without having a good grasp of the rules governing the contest. Silva still complained about the loss years later, telling Sherdog (link) that Okami was a coward for not continuing the fight after the illegal kick. He also whined to the LA Times when they brought it up in an interview about his documentary, "Like Water" (link).
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 07:02 |
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EvanSchenck posted:This is one of my favorite finishes, both because of how well Silva executed the kick, and because of how weird it is for him to have done it. Silva claimed afterwards that he had been unaware that it was illegal, which is slightly plausible because up to that time he had spent most of his career in promotions (Pride and Cage Rage) where kicks to downed opponents were legal. That said, it seems pretty dumb to agree to a fight without having a good grasp of the rules governing the contest. I can see him knowing that the kick would be illegal but doing it anyway because of instincts/opportunity too good to pass up/plausible deniability. That said, Silva always looks like he'd have the time to fill out a form in triplicate between someone throwing a punch at him and him nailing them with a perfect counter. Let Forrest Griffin tell the tale: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1R50LpFh_M 
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projecthalaxy posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tVTuNZ3Zw wasn't there some story to this like bullock talked a bunch of poo poo online or something about how he could kill people with his bare hands?
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 19:52 |
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Umbra Dubium posted:I can see him knowing that the kick would be illegal but doing it anyway because of instincts/opportunity too good to pass up/plausible deniability. I wasn't going to speculate but since you bring it up, I think he knew it was illegal and he did it on purpose because he's a dick. Nowadays Anderson is very effective at tying guys up and avoiding damage off his back, but he doesn't seem to be doing nearly so well controlling Okami in that clip. I don't think the practice of restarting the fight in the same position on the ground was widespread yet, but somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. If Okami hadn't been knocked out and been able to continue, the referee would have taken a point from Silva for the deliberate foul and then restarted them on their feet. Then Silva would have KOed Okami standing, so the deduction wouldn't matter. Alternatively, Silva decided he would take a DQ loss and claim it didn't count, rather than give Okami an opportunity to win legitimately. Either way, if you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin.
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 20:17 |
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Okami wasn't really KO'd. You can see in the video after he flops to guard he looks up to see whats going on. Anderson claimed he didn't know he couldn't throw that kick but I think he went to a rules meeting for it. Anderson's a big baby and him cheating if something doesn't go his way is pretty typical, even against Chael remember how he practically pulled his pants down trying to punch him?
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 20:27 |
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Bundt Cake posted:Okami wasn't really KO'd. You can see in the video after he flops to guard he looks up to see whats going on. It's hard to say, but it could have been a flash KO where the kick put him to sleep and landing on the canvas woke him back up. It isn't uncommon, and in fact it even happened to Okami again in his most recent fight. Belcher landed a lucky elbow while Okami was on his back, and Yushin went limp for a half second before waking up and continuing to grapple the poo poo out of him. That might have been the case with Silva's upkick, or he might have stayed conscious but been badly hurt; either way he was unable to continue. This actually brings up an interesting issue in the context of a thread about finishes, by the way, because it makes me curious about fights where in retrospect a guy is clearly unconscious but the ref failed to call it and the fight continued. I can't find a good youtube of it, but Cheick Kongo vs. Pat Barry was probably the worst. Kongo looked to suffer three flash knockouts in a row but always recovered before Big Dan stepped in, until finally Kongo landed a zombie punch to put Barry out instead.
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 21:35 |
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Franklin/Wand, except not really. In my heart of hearts I wanted it to be a stoppage when Rich hit the mat, but he never stopped defending himself long enough to justify it.
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| # ? Jan 23, 2013 21:59 |
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| # ? May 19, 2013 06:26 |
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For those who haven't seen it before the UFC uploaded Arona v Rampage as a free fight. http://www.ufc.com/media/ufc-pridec...kson-arona-free
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