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SHAM BAM BAMINA
Nov 6, 2012



As far as I can tell, it's literally a derogatory term for the valuing of artistic integrity in popular music. Am I missing something, or is it really that retarded?

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Maguro
Apr 24, 2006

Why is the sun always bullying me?

gently caress you moron.

Buller
Nov 6, 2010


The valuing of artistic integrity in popular music.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

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SHAM BAM BAMINA posted:

As far as I can tell, it's literally a derogatory term for the valuing of artistic integrity in popular music. Am I missing something, or is it really that retarded?

Actually, rockist is a term used for someone who ignores the artistic value in music that isn't rock. They're people who pretty much act like rock and roll was the only important form of music, and anything that came before is ignored and anything that came after is total poo poo. So a common rockist thing to say is that music in the 60s matured as it became more artistic, or for people to say that there was very little innovation in music between 1970-1980.

Bruce Boxliker
Mar 24, 2010


Cemetry Gator posted:

Actually, rockist is a term used for someone who ignores the artistic value in music that isn't rock. They're people who pretty much act like rock and roll was the only important form of music, and anything that came before is ignored and anything that came after is total poo poo. So a common rockist thing to say is that music in the 60s matured as it became more artistic, or for people to say that there was very little innovation in music between 1970-1980.

Additionally, it usually devalues music that isn't some form of rock, i.e. hip-hop or pop music because it "doesn't use real instruments" or "doesn't take real skill" or some poo poo. Usually comes with a tacit approval of bands like the Roots for being an exception as a band with instruments.

Raimundus
Apr 26, 2008

BARF! I THOUGHT I WOULD LIKE SMELLING DOG BUTTS BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!

I listen to everything, except rap and country.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005



Raimundus posted:

I listen to everything, except rap and country.

Same, except I listen to country.

Okard
Sep 2, 2011

We are like caterpillars contemplating pupation


Rockists say "Electronic music isn't real music", "rap music? more like crap music!" and other stuff like that. They disregard the artistic integrity of any music that isn't rock.

SHAM BAM BAMINA
Nov 6, 2012



Looks like I was missing a lot, then. Thanks for clearing this up; I'd been wondering about this for a while.

All of the illustrations that I'd seen for it mentioned rockists' praising "real" bands and condemning "manufactured" pop stars, which seemed a lot more reasonable to me. Praising bands and condemning literally everything else is stupid.

Would it be bad form to close the thread at this point? You guys answered my question pretty definitively.

SHAM BAM BAMINA fucked around with this message at Jan 21, 2013 around 01:34

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!

I don't understand how a bit of googling or Wikipediaing wouldn't have answered this question...


SHAM BAM BAMINA posted:

Looks like I was missing a lot, then. Thanks for clearing this up; I'd been wondering about this for a while.

All of the illustrations that I'd seen for it mentioned rockists' praising "real" bands and condemning "manufactured" pop stars, which seemed a lot more reasonable to me.

Is it, though? What we should be assessing is the end result. Is the song any good? Would Led Zeppelin's music be any worse if it had all been created in a test tube? Perhaps to rockists it would be. Which is daft.

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SHAM BAM BAMINA
Nov 6, 2012



Popcorn posted:

I don't understand how a bit of googling or Wikipediaing wouldn't have answered this question...
I did, and I told you what I got. I came away with the (completely wrong) impression that I was being "rockist" if Britney Spears bored me.

Definitely closing the thread now.

SHAM BAM BAMINA fucked around with this message at Jan 21, 2013 around 01:45

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