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I've been watching this show since the pilot and we used to have a weekly thread about it, but no one ever made one for season 2 and I got tired of waiting. I can't be the only one watching this show and it's doing very well in the ratings. 2 Broke Girls follows the titular characters Max and Caroline living in Brooklyn, working in a lovely diner, being poor, managing their love lives and friendship. Max comes from a dysfunctional single mother home and has been poor all her life, her only marketable skills are her sassy wit, giant rack and penchant for baking. Caroline is newly poor after her millionaire father got busted for financial fraud Bernie Madoff style - and her family lost everything. She sought refuge living with Max in her Brooklyn apartment. In addition to their day to day lives, the girls are trying to make a name for themselves with their new business venture Max's Homemade cupcakes, utilizing Max's baking talents and Carolines business skills. This season they finally opened up a store in a train station and may be on the road to success. Without further ado - our cast: Max Black (Kat Dennings)  Max is poor, she bakes, she takes no sass and doesn't hesitate to whip out a hefty dose of sarcasm at anyone including her boss and diner customers. She never knew her father and her drug addict single mother didn't help prepare her for life as a healthy rational adult. In the pilot she makes a roommate and friend out of Caroline. The two live together in their crappy apartment as they struggle to make it in the world. She also has big boobs, which is the subject of many jokes. Caroline Channing (Beth Behrs)  Caroline lived a life of ultimate luxury as a Manhattan socialite and spoiled brat. When the feds busted her father and took everything, she had to quickly learn how to be poor. While Behrs could have easily played her a dumb Paris Hilton type character, Caroline is actually very smart (if a little naïve) and managed to pick up some business sense along the way. She's now managing the financial side of the cupcake business. Personally I think she carried this show through the first season cause Behrs is a great comedic actress, but the rest of the cast has come into their own more so in season 2. Han Lee (Matthew Moy)  Han is the owner of the Williamsburg Diner the girls work at and is also their boss. He is a tiny tiny Asian man and has a thick accent. Max makes fun of him constantly for that and we all have a great racist chuckle. He can be a hard rear end sometimes, although he's not very good at it. Oleg (Johnathan Kite) and Sophie Kachinsky (Jennifer Coolidge)  Oleg is the cook at the diner. He is a horny, dirty, perverted man from the Old Country and has a thick Russian accent. Most of his jokes are about the things he would do to Max and Caroline...and Sophie. Him and Sophie started hooking up. Sophie is also from the old country, but not quite as perverted...but she is sleeping with Oleg so that's debatable. She is an independent business woman who runs a stable of cleaning ladies. She loves Max's cupcakes and gave the girls $20,000 with which to open their store. Earl (Garett Morris)  Earl is the stereotypical friendly black man who is the cashier at the diner. He is a former blues musician who performed with all the greats (fill in your own blues greats because I know nothing about the genre). He used to be addicted to the all the drugs that came with he music lifestyle...now he's a cashier. Chestnut (Some horse)  Chestnut is Caroline's horse back from when she had money. The last symbol of her former wealth. He lives behind Max's apartment and sticks his head through the window at inopportune times. Somehow two waitresses in a lovely apartment in Brooklyn can afford to feed and care for a thoroughbred horse...but I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for this one. Anyway this show gets a lot of deserved criticism. It can be extremely racist and sexist at times. But the chemistry between Max and Caroline is amazing and their friendship is what makes this show. It passes the feminist test of "2 women talking to each other about something other then a man" even though their is plenty of talking about men as the girls try to balance their love lives. I also have a huge crush on Beth Behrs and both the leads are from my hometown area (Philly suburbs). Every episode title starts with "And the..." thus the thread title. Anyway, discuss! The Nastier Nate fucked around with this message at Jan 22, 2013 around 02:28 |
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You are officially my favorite poster, The Nastier Nate. Tonight's episode was great. I think this was the first time we saw the girls get punchy with each other and the resulting fight was hysterical. I urge anyone who dropped this show in the first season to give it a second chance because it is, without a doubt, the most consistently and relentlessly funny show on television. Just posting this because this is my biggest gay fantasy come to life: 
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 02:48 |
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Irish Joe posted:You are officially my favorite poster, The Nastier Nate. Sweet...some internet points. I haven't watched tonight's episode yet because my wife commandeered the TV to watch Bachelor live, but I did enjoy last weeks and the gay bears. Like I said, the biggest weakness of the show is the constant resort to a lot of cheap jokes and stereotypes, some are funny...some are meh. I thought Caroline's relationship ending was handled well though and Andy seems nice enough to keep the door open. I'm always happy to see women on tv put other life goals in front of finding a man.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 03:03 |
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I like the show, but I don't like the addition of Stiffler's mom. Her anti-polish polish schtick wore off way too fast. I also like Garrett Morris, although he appears to be the locus of the racism accusations leveled at this show.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 09:21 |
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I hate the fake audience reaction whenever she comes in, because nobody has ever given a poo poo about Jennifer Coolidge.
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| # ? Jan 22, 2013 09:51 |
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No new episode tonight. Instead we get to rewatch the girls sucker some poor Amish saps into building a stable for Chestnut. I've never spoken to an Amish person at length (we have a few of their markets around here) but I'll assume they aren't all gullible saps who will do anything for a pair of tits. Like I said, I really like this show but there is no shortage of stereotypes.
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| # ? Jan 29, 2013 00:53 |
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Max is a titular character alright
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| # ? Jan 29, 2013 20:18 |
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This is honestly my favorite comedy on television. I don't know if that means much because I am generally not a comedy person. The biggest surprise about this show, for me anyway, is that it's on CBS which used to be the old people network. The poo poo they get away with on Two Broke Girls....
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| # ? Jan 29, 2013 21:48 |
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CBS has made a lot of efforts to not be the network of only old people, a reputation it very much deserved back in the days of JAG and Touched by an Angel. A lot of these new younger demo shows are train wrecks like How to be a gentleman, partners and that show with piefucker and Dr. Elliot Reid a couple seasons back. But HIMYM and 2BG seems to do well. However, I'm surprised because there are a ton of people in my office over the age of 50 that love 2 and a half men, why?...I have no idea. But yea...2BG is the only show I can think of on network tv where a main character directly references doing intervenes drugs.
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| # ? Jan 29, 2013 22:41 |
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Honestly, I think it's a terrible show. Lame, repetitive jokes, clichéed characters, subpar acting. Yet I can't help but watch it every week. I'm the complete opposite with Community: it's an hilarious, smart show that I miss every single week.
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The Nastier Nate posted:CBS has made a lot of efforts to not be the network of only old people, a reputation it very much deserved back in the days of JAG and Touched by an Angel. I kinda liked Partners. The pilot sucked, but you could see it growing in to its space as it went on (and then not went it up and disappeared). Plus they made a Superman joke about Routh.
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The Nastier Nate posted:CBS has made a lot of efforts to not be the network of only old people, a reputation it very much deserved back in the days of JAG and Touched by an Angel. The audience for this and Two and a Half Men actually is pretty old. They succeed on "Did they just say that on television?" shock from people who lived through when you couldn't see a toilet, or married couple in the same bed.
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Aphrodite posted:The audience for this and Two and a Half Men actually is pretty old. They succeed on "Did they just say that on television?" shock from people who lived through when you couldn't see a toilet, or married couple in the same bed. I don't understand this mentality because shows like the league, archer, American dad, sunny all exist and get away with some crazy poo poo...yet it's over 40 demos are abysmal.
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| # ? Jan 30, 2013 16:42 |
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The Nastier Nate posted:I don't understand this mentality because shows like the league, archer, American dad, sunny all exist and get away with some crazy poo poo...yet it's over 40 demos are abysmal. The level of pushing it on those shows is a fair bit farther than on CBS shows, where they mostly stop at innuendo. These shows' audiences like to be shocked and titillate up to a point.
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zoux posted:The level of pushing it on those shows is a fair bit farther than on CBS shows, where they mostly stop at innuendo. These shows' audiences like to be shocked and titillate up to a point. I dunno, there's been some pretty blatant stuff on Two Broke Girls. Caroline: [brings Andy a birthday cupcake with a candle atop it] Happy birthday! Now come on, blow. Andy: I don't really feel like doing that. Max: Welcome to our world. [Max walks in on Caroline and Andy having sex after hearing Caroline shrieking] Caroline: What are you doing?! Max: I forgot Andy was here! And your sex voice is the same as your murder voice! Caroline: So are you just gonna stand there? Max: Are you offering me a threeway? [Intercom buzzes] Max: Well, it looks like we're about to be a full-blown orgy.
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| # ? Jan 30, 2013 17:18 |
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That's all dialogue though. They say things, but it's a straightforward sitcom.
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| # ? Jan 30, 2013 18:34 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:I dunno, there's been some pretty blatant stuff on Two Broke Girls. That's tame as hell. The first example is double entendre, which is a type of innuendo. Or innuendo is a type of double entendre I can't remember. Compared to some of the poo poo in say, Always Sunny or Archer, the second example is baby town frolics. Anyone who is still shocked by the word "sex" or "orgy" on TV is likely to be in their middle to old age or homeschooled.
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| # ? Jan 30, 2013 18:53 |
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It's mostly simple stuff that can make stupid people congratulate themselves when they understand what's going on. CBS.
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Colonial Air Force posted:I dunno, there's been some pretty blatant stuff on Two Broke Girls. Compare that to Venture Brothers on Adult Swim: quote:Hunter Gathers: Good lord, son, there should be a mandatory retirement age for strippers. Two Broke Girls would be better if it wasn't on CBS but on FX instead. Well, if they replaced the writers and sent Chuck Lorre to Elba Island forever. I've seen a few episodes of it and the impression I got was that I should find the word "vagina" and Three's Company level innuendo funny. Too bad I don't. GodlessCommie fucked around with this message at Jan 30, 2013 around 19:30 |
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Chuck Lorre is fortunately not involved with 2BG in anyway. New episode tonight, from DirectTV's guide: "And the Psychic Shakedown" After learning that Candy Andy closed down his shop after their breakup, Caroline visits a psychic for a reading about her love life in the future.
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Jorghnassen posted:Honestly, I think it's a terrible show. Lame, repetitive jokes, clichéed characters, subpar acting. Yet I can't help but watch it every week. This is me. This show is objectively terrible and the stereotypes are kind of offensive. But I must watch it every week. 2 Broke Girls is easily the worst comedy I watch but I still like it and it usually gets a few chuckles from me every episode. It's kinda hard to explain to anyone who doesn't already watch it.
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...! posted:This is me. This show is objectively terrible and the stereotypes are kind of offensive. But I must watch it every week. 2 Broke Girls is easily the worst comedy I watch but I still like it and it usually gets a few chuckles from me every episode. It's kinda hard to explain to anyone who doesn't already watch it. The best explanation for me is Beth Behrs. She plays her character exactly the way that character shouldn't be played. With all the one dimensional characters on the show, her character should be played as a Paris Hilton sterotype, but for some reason/stroke of luck, the character isn't portrayed that way. That said, as awful as this show is, it's still MILES ahead of that god awful show after it, "Mike & Molly."
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Davros1 posted:The best explanation for me is Beth Behrs. She plays her character exactly the way that character shouldn't be played. With all the one dimensional characters on the show, her character should be played as a Paris Hilton sterotype, but for some reason/stroke of luck, the character isn't portrayed that way. My wife likes Mike & Molly, so sometimes I suffer through it. The thing about it is the supporting cast is funnier than the title characters (although that doesn't mean much). The main characters are just fat jokes.
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As I said in my OP, Beth Behrs is the shining star of this show. If someone else was playing Caroline as a Paris Hilton archetype I would have dumped this show after the pilot. The way it is now, I think it's good, but it has potential to be great if the supporting cast wasn't so weak. As for Mike & Molly....ugh...I've watched 2 or 3 episodes and objectively hate it. Which is a shame because Mellissa McCarthy is clearly talented, she was great in Bridesmaids and Identity Thief looks promising...Billy Gardell's standup is not terrible - but put them together on "Fat Mad About You" and it's a train wreck.
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| # ? Feb 5, 2013 13:53 |
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Intellectually I know that this show is terrible. But I still watch it every week because it makes me laugh harder than most other shows, and I have ginormous crushes on Beth Behrs and Kat Dennings ( ).
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The Nastier Nate posted:"Fat Mad About You" Calling it this from now on.
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The Nastier Nate posted:As I said in my OP, Beth Behrs is the shining star of this show. If someone else was playing Caroline as a Paris Hilton archetype I would have dumped this show after the pilot. The way it is now, I think it's good, but it has potential to be great if the supporting cast wasn't so weak. It's because on the show she plays the Attractive Wife sitcom archetype, except fat. Her strength is being a Female Kevin James.
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I know I shouldn't be sucked into this show, but... I am. Candy Andy was a decent addition to the cast, pity he's gone (Dick Casablancas from Veronica Mars). The most recent episode with scene between the new business owner and Max was pretty hard to watch. "OH MAN! SOMEONE IS NOT WHITE ON THIS SHOW! TIME TO MAKE JOKES ABOUT IT!!!!"
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I am the world's most ardent defender of this show and even I thought that scene was dragging. Overall I thought this was one of the show's weaker episodes, but the random suicide and Sofie's reaction to the curse were Classic 2 Broke Girls and remind me why I love this show even when its not hitting it out of the park.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2013 12:35 |
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I have mixed feelings about 2BG. On one hand, Beth Behrs and Kat Dennings are great at comedy. On the other, the show is objectively poo poo. I honestly just hope they start getting big (bigger, in Denning's case) film roles as soon as possible so I can watch them on anything other than Funny Racists Stereotypes And We Know What a Hipster Is.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2013 22:06 |
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I don't know how I should feel about this show. On the one hand, it is horrible. That's not a controversial statement, it is literally, objectively horrible. On the other hand, the two leads and even the supporting characters are performing well above the level of the material they are given. The casting was actually done really well, but the material is pretty hit-or-miss. Overall, it's like watching "pets do hilarious things" videos on youtube. Sure, it's not really okay to attack babies or poo poo on the carpet, but it won't stop me from laughing and "awwww"ing at the animals.
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2/11/13 And Just Plane Magic When Max lands tickets to a music awards show in Los Angeles, she and Caroline meet rapper 2 Chainz during the cross-country flight on a private jet.
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OK, despite what the characters said, Beth Behrs' accent was hard to decipher in French. Subtitles could have helped...
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So apparently 2 Chainz is a real person and not a Sir Mix-A-Lot parody like I originally thought. Still a lovely rapper, though. Because I'm sure someone wants it: 
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 23:24 |
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I was expecting a lot more racism from that episode. I'm impressed.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 23:53 |
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Reminder: new episode tonight with special guest star Andy Dick!
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Irish Joe posted:Reminder: new episode tonight with special guest star Andy Dick! 
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| # ? Feb 19, 2013 14:07 |
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I feel like I have an abusive spouse-type relationship with this show. I keep thinking "I know it's terrible sometimes, but there's a really good show underneath, I swear!" The inclusion of Andy Dick makes this show that much harder for me to defend...We need to retroactively award Emmy's to the entire cast and staff of Newsradio just for making him tolerable for 5 years.
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| # ? Feb 19, 2013 14:31 |
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I was barely paying attention because I just had the TV on and hadn't changed it from CBS, but did they threaten to destroy a man's life because he annoyed them a bit?
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Aphrodite posted:I was barely paying attention because I just had the TV on and hadn't changed it from CBS, but did they threaten to destroy a man's life because he annoyed them a bit? Andy Dick's character Jay Petto, a puppeteer, was performing in front of the girls' cupcake shop without their permission which drove away the shop's customers. He filed a frivolous personal injury lawsuit after a slip and fall in the girls' shop damaged his puppet while leaving Jay Petto uninjured. He then says he'd drop the suit for an ever-increasing amount of money, which the girls can't afford. That's when Max steals one of Jay Petto's puppets and refuses to give it back until he drops the lawsuit.
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