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MorsAnima posted:Someone link the news article that suggests valve are clamping down on the API? I can't find it. Not sure what news article you're talking about. Everyone's going by this line from the patch notes quote:- Added a privacy setting in the UI so that players can specify whether they want to allow external 3rd party websites to be able to access their match history (defaulted to private).
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MorsAnima posted:Someone link the news article that suggests valve are clamping down on the API? I can't find it. I don't think there's an article, just last night's patch notes saying that they will introduce an option that allows players to decide whether 3rd-party sites can access their match history through the API
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 14:03 |
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Dota is an ARTS. Moba is a pedo term (no joke). Pugna is a bad ward bitch I also wish people didn't think of him that way. He needs bracer, phase, mek, levels and a solo lane to play his strongest role properly.
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TheQat posted:Frankly it looks like your team poo poo the bed. 3-10 Tiny who didn't go mid and seems very confused about which Tiny build he's going for (Drum/Phase/Yasha or Arcane/Blink), Mirana participating in 7 kills out of 31 and building a Hood, Ursa with BoT and Basher before BKB Yeah, but as tempting as it is to blame the team I can't help feeling I could have carried them if I had ganked better (Or picked Nyx). They didn't do that badly early game and we had actual support: Ursa, Leshrac and I could have won us the mid game against their lineup. Mek is a great point, I keep forgetting about it when I'm not supporting.
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I don't know. You could have stopped for a Mek before or after the Blink but it doesn't look like your team was doing their job at all.
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JollyPubJerk posted:Moba is a pedo term (no joke). Wait, what would... oh gently caress you. Besides, I'm fond of Fast Action RTS.
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Cryohazard posted:Wait, what would... oh gently caress you. Look up Hunter_ if you want the story. He made up the term. I'm totally down with fast action rts too. JollyPubJerk fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 14:35 |
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Divine Disclaimer posted:I literally signed up for this forum to meet people to play a MOBA You could have just went to the IRC or ingame channel and said you were completely new and wanted to play with other nice/new people instead of writing an essay where you completely embarassed yourself, repeatedly. PS I'll play with you just don't pretend Pugna Nether Wards are a replacement for Observer Wards or that the best way to counter an enemy Rikimaru is to buy a gem, suicide to the enemy, have their carry pick up the gem, hack the client so you get a Queen from Brood War and have them Parasite the enemy gem holder. Chucat fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 14:39 |
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It is better this way chucatChucat posted:PS I'll play with you just don't pretend Pugna Nether Wards are a replacement for Observer Wards or that the best way to counter an enemy Rikimaru is to buy a gem, suicide to the enemy, have their carry pick up the gem, hack the client so you get a Queen from Brood War and have them Parasite the enemy gem holder. Yeah, steal Ensnare from broodwar and get detection from that, obviously. MotherFuckingT-REX fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 14:45 |
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Pugna needs levels a lot more than he needs survival items - i mean getting mek and drums is nice on him but you really want that level 4 blast and level 4 nether ward with some levels in decrep asap so he shouldn't be doing lane support and should probably mid in pub games.
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Pureauthor posted:Hookshotting into an Earthshaker and activating Battery Assault as he tries to cast spells that are mechanically impossible to get out in between ministuns is one of those Best Feelings. Doing anything with Clock is great because he is the most fun hero in the game. Especially now that AP is full of people instantly picking Drow.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 14:56 |
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Puck is my favourite, and a fantastic hero. However, without a team backing him he becomes utterly useless very quickly. You can dominate the early-mid game with some extra levels from soloing but any kind of coordination from the opposition can easily shut you down if your team isn't prepared to take advantage of his ability to initiate and control the first few seconds of a team fight.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 15:04 |
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jump posted:Puck is my favourite, and a fantastic hero. However, without a team backing him he becomes utterly useless very quickly. You can dominate the early-mid game with some extra levels from soloing but any kind of coordination from the opposition can easily shut you down if your team isn't prepared to take advantage of his ability to initiate and control the first few seconds of a team fight. Build a dagon if your team is being lame and needs you to do the heavy lifting. Just level 1 is enough
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 15:09 |
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jump posted:Puck is my favourite, and a fantastic hero. However, without a team backing him he becomes utterly useless very quickly. You can dominate the early-mid game with some extra levels from soloing but any kind of coordination from the opposition can easily shut you down if your team isn't prepared to take advantage of his ability to initiate and control the first few seconds of a team fight. For me, I would love to get better at playing Puck because he (she/it) is really fun but it is a crapshoot whether you will do well in a non-organized Normal game as you said. A lot people seem to be really hesitant to follow a Puck initiation for whatever reason, so I've had lots of games where I have silenced and ulted their entire team and watched everyone else just sort of mill around while my disjoint wears off. Obviously this can be solved by playing in groups and whatnot but sort of think the lack of some big splashy ult animation doesn't trigger the 'OK GO FIGHT NOW' response like it does in say Tidehunter or Void.
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Any word on when Troll Warlord and AR are gonna be added to the main client today?
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Normally patches come in at night around 7-8 eastern.
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Ok, thanks 
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Goetta posted:For me, I would love to get better at playing Puck because he (she/it) is really fun but it is a crapshoot whether you will do well in a non-organized Normal game as you said. A lot people seem to be really hesitant to follow a Puck initiation for whatever reason, so I've had lots of games where I have silenced and ulted their entire team and watched everyone else just sort of mill around while my disjoint wears off. I have to be very vocal on the mic that I am going to blink in and silence and hold the whole team and to follow me in. This usually descends into "FFS follow me in this time you fuckheads" but hey that's dota.
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Kasumeat posted:Is it just me or is PL absolutely insane now? This is a pretty good example I feel. The endgame stats are pretty misleading, but watch and you'll see what I mean. This was a very close game where I as Antimage was ahead on levels and farm against their PL. But he's just much stronger than any other hard carry right now. Our team has a bunch of AoE to counter his images, and I went BF, but once he has Heart they are just beefy as gently caress, and he doesn't need any damage items other than Diffusal to have insane DPS thanks to his absurd stat growth. And compared to other hard carries like AM, Merc, and Void, he is MUCH stronger in the laning phase, thanks to a good nuke/CC and a great escape. He also has literally the best farming capability in the game. And to top it all off, the relative difficulty in ganking him makes him an absolute beast against all but the most well-organised teams. PL is the hardest carry right now, probably, but he has counters. First carry counter to PL that comes to mind is Tiny. Tiny has tons of AE spells and cleave, he ruins illusions. Plus his passive slows their multiplying. You're going to need coordination and a few ganks on PL to keep his endgame from starting ridiculously early (by this, I mean something like 250cs before 30mins). Right now there is a known bug that is affecting PL too. His illusions take the benefit from the quelling blade. This can be exploited for insane lane farming and leads to some devestatingly fast pushing in the mid game. It really makes him a bit much. Plus, that agi growth... EDIT: Here's a competitive Tiny vs PL game from last weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA8E_qiB6AA Sups fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 15:31 |
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Sups posted:Right now there is a known bug that is affecting PL too. His illusions take the benefit from the quelling blade. That was fixed last week. Edit: The bug that caused them to deal full quelling blade damage, I mean. They are supposed to benefit from it, but with the illusion damage penalty.
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The ~very high skill mmr~ experience: Play dotes, get ugly sven loot, destroy for mythical couriers. 
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Snicker-Snack posted:That was fixed last week. I didn't know they fixed that yet, nice.
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I played with a jugg last night that was half the level of everyone else at all times. Didn't say anything save for the one thing he asked 2 minutes into the game: "how 2 place ward". Please just give me a concede button. Not a team vote, just me, I decide.
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You can abandon at anytime babe. Is the game bad enough to be worth it?
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 15:44 |
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Is there a reason Lina's animation is so awful? She doesn't seem like such a great hero anyway, she could use a buff to her laning.
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MotherFuckingT-REX posted:You can abandon at anytime babe. Is the game bad enough to be worth it? Yeah, I know. Sad thing was, the other team was laughably bad and we had an outside shot. I should have went battle CM  .
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Elman posted:Is there a reason Lina's animation is so awful? She doesn't seem like such a great hero anyway, she could use a buff to her laning. Cast animation or attack animation? She is one of the burstyest heroes, which is why hero spell animation is so long; it makes her combo much less reliable, but still very deadly. As far as attack animation, it is actually better than it was in DotA:Allstars, if you can believe it.
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Kasumeat posted:Is it just me or is PL absolutely insane now? Yeah he's pretty loving good.
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Elman posted:Is there a reason Lina's animation is so awful? She doesn't seem like such a great hero anyway, she could use a buff to her laning. Because she has a great stun, a great line nuke, a great ult and a pretty decent passive. If she had a better attack animation she'd probably be a fairly popular semicarry, as it is right now a lategame supportlina can actually pump out some decent rightclicks after firing off a few spells, kind of in the same vein as Windrunner.
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Elman posted:Is there a reason Lina's animation is so awful? She doesn't seem like such a great hero anyway, she could use a buff to her laning. I imagine it's because her range is really high and she has an attack speed boost. Lina isn't a bad hero anyway. She's popular among pro asian dota teams because of her good counterpush and high damage, low cd ult.
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Elman posted:Is there a reason Lina's animation is so awful? She doesn't seem like such a great hero anyway, she could use a buff to her laning. Her animation reminds me of those old black and white movies where one guy is pitching in baseball and he does that huge, over exaggerated arm swing for 5 seconds before he throws a ball. Clinkz and Drow have worse animations in my opinion. It's like they think for a second before shooting a slow motion arrow.
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Elman posted:Is there a reason Lina's animation is so awful? She doesn't seem like such a great hero anyway, she could use a buff to her laning. IIRC she also has 625 range so if she had a faster damage point in her attack animation (which is really the only bad part of it - how long the wind-up is) she'd possibly be a little too strong. Looking at her stats on playdota and comparing against some other ranged heroes her attack animation is .75/.75 as opposed to .5/.5. It could also be because IceFrog just left her with the Sorceress's attack animation numbers and never messed with it.
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Is Lina meant to be played as a support? Like, buy the courier and keep wards up kind of support?
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Elman posted:Is there a reason Lina's animation is so awful? She doesn't seem like such a great hero anyway, she could use a buff to her laning. Lina is really good. Her animation is poor because her passive turns her into a Ursa-like machinegun for a time late game (and you can keep it going far longer than empower if you stack your spells correctly). prom candy posted:Is Lina meant to be played as a support? Like, buy the courier and keep wards up kind of support? That's how I normally play her. You should be getting kills regularly enough to still pick up stuff like Eul's and Drums though.
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prom candy posted:Is Lina meant to be played as a support? Like, buy the courier and keep wards up kind of support? She can but she also really wants a blink dagger to blow up enemies instantly. I used to run lina mid all the time which isn't bad because dragon slave owns at pushing out the lane and her rune control is pretty good. How well you do mid depends on how well you can land solo LSA though.
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For Lina good times, play in a lane against a melee hero and, when they walk up to the creeps to get last hits, lead a stun where they have to walk. Most players are too greedy or slow to work around this at least once or twice a game.
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Yeah, if Lina had a good animation her passive would crank her up to entirely bullshit, as she'd be a great burst caster with a great autoattack.
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Lina feels kind of like a weird hybrid between a support and a semi-carry. She definitely cannot do the hard-support Crystal Maiden style where you buy NOTHING but wards and other consumables for your team and maybe you get brown boots by 15 minutes if you're lucky. Lina needs mana badly to contribute anything at all in the mid-game, so she needs a little bit of farm early on to at least pick up Arcane Boots and possibly a Bracer.
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One thing with great attack animations is that they help you chase because you need to spend those extra fractions of a second doing the frontswing on an attack. Someone like Sniper, Gyro, or Mirana can keep you in range for a long period of time if they're cancelling their backswings well. I'm fine with Lina having a terrible frontswing because a burst mage with an attack steroid that you can't actually run from sounds really unpleasant. Once attack speed gets really high it starts to not matter as much also. Lina is usually a support, especially in lanes where somebody else can give her a guaranteed Light Strike Array. She can solo mid but isn't especially good at it because of her attack animation being so awkward. If you do solo mid though she can bully pretty effectively and her ganks are pretty sweet with Laguna Blade.
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Skyl3lazer posted:Yeah he's pretty loving good. I typically have to counter pick or at least actively play to harass and kill PL literally the whole game, or at least until he is behind enough to never truly catch up. I find, at least in High, I can usually get one other person to agree with me, that pl shouldn't ever be left alone. Then they lane with my KotL and PL gets sad.
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Also Lina/Shadow Demon is the owningest lane in the game
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